/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10612314]

>get told for years how calc 2 is the hardest core math class you have to take in stem fields
>of the 250 total test points we had this semester, i missed 3 and ended the class with a 97%

I did invest my fair share of time to study, but series and sequences are both super intuitive and integration is fun. Vectors were a pain at first because I'd never worked with them but they clicked in time

Where does this hatred for calc 2 come in?

[Anonymous No.10612316]

Wow, you must be really smart.

[Anonymous No.10612319]

>>10612314
Math isn't real

[Anonymous No.10612322]

>>10612314
Mathematics faggots took this class in high school and you are experiencing the interdiscipliary retard effect.

[Anonymous No.10612324]

Seconded. I jerked off the whole semester and didn't study at all and still got a 91. I found calc I to be easy and intuitive though, so maybe it's just something I innately understand

[Anonymous No.10612329]

You're so smart and cool OP. How do I become smart like you? All the girls must be lusting after you and your brains

[Anonymous No.10612338]

>>10612316
>>10612329
Did you guys fail Calc 2 or something? Sorry, I'm not meaning to come off as a pretentious asshole when I read this post. I'm just wondering what makes the class so hard. There are other schools of thought and subjects that I find way harder than my peers, so I'm not going to claim I'm a genius.

What made Calc II so hard for you guys?

[Anonymous No.10612365]

A wide variety of undergraduate majors need to take calc 2. Its just a hump for the people who are forced to study math to deal with. If you enjoy math and apply yourself its a relatively easy math course imo

[Anonymous No.10612366]

Calc II was pretty easy to understand. I only missed points on exams because of random algebraic errors

[Anonymous No.10612370]

>>10612314
Wow I PASSED A BASIC CLASS WITH A, EINSTEIN LEVEL

[Anonymous No.10612391]

>>10612314
Just got an a+ on a quizlet everyone said was hard.

[Anonymous No.10612414]

>>10612314
What did you guys do with vectors in calc 2?

[Anonymous No.10613081]

>>10612366
>a fucking minus sign
I feel you.

[Electricity Nigger !!cumfBilV4MW No.10613087]

>>10612314
>missed 3 points
Pathetic. I had perfect scores on all of my calc 2 exams and my professor, who is a Korean qt milf btw, said I was the first student to ever do that. Also engineering master race checking in.

[Anonymous No.10613100]

>>10613087
>engineering master race
You would be working in the labs if you actually knew anything about the design process.

[Electricity Nigger !!cumfBilV4MW No.10613108]

>>10613100
t. Sciencefag who thinks slaving away to get a PhD makes him intelligent
Getting around today huh fag?

[Anonymous No.10613119]

Actually, the professor is one of the biggest factors of making a student not liking a certain subject.

[Anonymous No.10613139]

If you find that the processes involved in that subject as intuitive, then you cannot expect that other people will have the same intuition as yours. There's this thing we called interest and that's that.

[Anonymous No.10613140]

calc 2 is fucking easy, you have to remember that most people have trouble solving single linear equations

[Anonymous No.10613698]

>>10613081
The minus sign.
Yowch.

[Anonymous No.10613704]

What do they cover in Calc 2?

[Anonymous No.10613708]

>>10612314
Chem 1, Ochem, Phys-chem, Calc 1 and 2, Physics 1 and 2 are all brainlet filter courses in STEM, generally the fail rate is over 50%

[Anonymous No.10614039]

>>10613708

desu it's just to see who puts in effort. They aren't too hard.

[Anonymous No.10614045]

>>10612314
It is the hardest core math class. It's also not really hard.

[Anonymous No.10614053]

>>10612314
There are 10 year olds capable of passing Calc II.

[Anonymous No.10614054]

>>10613704
integration/fundamental theorem
series/divergence/convergence
vectors (dot/cross product)

[Anonymous No.10614056]

>>10614054
>vectors (dot/cross product)
How is that calculus?

[Anonymous No.10614057]

>>10614056
its called vector calculus anon

[Anonymous No.10614058]

>>10614057
dot/cross product is not vector calculus. Are you dumb?

[Anonymous No.10614060]

>>10612338
>schools of thought
youve never been exposed to a school of thought if youre taking calc 2 right now

[Anonymous No.10614061]

>>10614058
its most peoples introduction to vectors too dipshit

[Anonymous No.10614062]

Germanfag here
>calc 2 is literally what we did in our first maths course

[Anonymous No.10614063]

>>10614061
Linear algebra 1 is just crammed into vector calculus? Probably not a very good linear algebra or vector calculus course then

[Anonymous No.10614068]

>>10614054
It seems like it is not that hard.

[Anonymous No.10614099]

>>10614063
calc 2 introduces vectors for the next class, vector calculus
its not linear algebra, its just vectors and products to define line integrals
and gradient, div, curl and maybe the Jacobian

[Anonymous No.10614119]

>>10612314
>calc 2 is the hardest core math in STEM
>STEMath
>the hardest class in math
>and you believed them

[Anonymous No.10614137]

>>10614099
>div, grad, curl
I have a PhD in Physics and I still have problems with those.

[Anonymous No.10614145]

Calc 2 wasn't had at my school but calc 3 has high dropout and failure rates. We were on the quarter system so calculus was a four quarter sequence. Calc 3 for us was multivariable. Calc 2 was mostly integral calculus. Can't remember what we did in Calc 4.

[Anonymous No.10614150]

>>10614061
You guys don't see dot product and cross product in high school?

[Anonymous No.10614161]

>>10614137
>physics phd
>not cheating your way through with differential forms
yukari_smug.jpg

In all seriousness, they do provide a lot of intuition for why stuff works.

[Anonymous No.10614165]

in my case the problem wasnt calculus, the problem is taking the course without knowing basic math like algebra, functions, trig, vectors, etc.
calculus per se is not hard

[Anonymous No.10614184]

>>10614150
who said anything about taking calc 2 in college

[Anonymous No.10614354]

>>10614039
I know, aced all of them, except Phys 1-2, had bad luck with the questions and overstressed, but passed first try no problem.
I still see old classmates from 2 years ago going for some of them, having a hard time. You would think after so many tries they would be able to learn at least the bare minimum, but nah. Brainletfilter at work.

[Anonymous No.10614362]

>>10612314
People who don't study enough.

[Anonymous No.10614368]

>>10612314
Good for you man, That's awesome. Maybe as you mature through your courses you'll become less of a little cunt about it all.

[Anonymous No.10614474]

>>10612338
>>10612314
>Where does this hatred for calc 2 come in?
low iq burgers, literally.
integrals and derivatives are literal highschool tier in europe

i scanned through last years final exam (UK) for higher math in high school (called sixth form) for calc questions. Lets see if calc babby is up to the task

[Anonymous No.10614504]

>>10614474
>the europeans just fucking dress up the bound addition property and act like they're hot shit
this is fucking trivial
it tells you what substitution to use, jesus christ
>f(1/x) goes to f(y), hmm really getting the almonds going
youre braindead if you think is anything worthwhile

[Anonymous No.10614511]

>>10614504
you answered part (a) in a 4 part question

wow

[Anonymous No.10614522]

>>10614511
>he thinks (ii) is harder
what the fuck dude
the fractional parts are constant, its 2 fucking baby series

[Anonymous No.10614528]

>>10614522
ok so you solved each of the part 1s of the question in a high school exam and you're acting all high and mighty lmao

[Anonymous No.10614534]

>>10614528
this is shit i could have done in highschool you dumb nigger
you're the one whose been acting high and mighty for posting infant tier shit even when compared to highschoolers

[Anonymous No.10614538]

>>10614534
>hurr durr im the smartest i coulda woulda shoulda

[Anonymous No.10614548]

>>10613108
why are engineers always full of ressentiment towards their superiors?

[Anonymous No.10614555]

>>10614528
we have calculus in highschool its called AP calc you can also just go to a community college and take the full calc series starting junior year, because of their quarter system by senior year you could have taken all of calc, linear algebra and ODE’s. Most top tier, ivy or public ivy, students have finished Calc 2 or Multivariable Calc by the time they’re freshman.

[Anonymous No.10614556]

>>10614538
im a freshman in college you ingrate
so im a perfectly apt comparison to a high schooler

[Anonymous No.10614600]

>roughly the same group of students in all my classes
>always score at the top in engineering and computer science classes
>barely pass Calc 2, Linear Algebra and Diff Eq

What is this curse on my brain? I feel like in order to get A’s in my math classes I would have had to spend at least triple if not quadruple the time studying as I did, yet engineering and CS come so easily to me while my peers struggle. Do most engineering students just practice math until they have the process memorized or do they actually understand what they’re doing the whole time?

[Anonymous No.10614603]

>meanwhile im here struggling with langs basic mathematics

y'know i dont even really feel that bad

[Electricity Nigger !!cumfBilV4MW No.10614605]

>>10614548
>superiors
Lol nice joke anon

[Anonymous No.10614608]

>>10614603
thats good
you do you anon

[Anonymous No.10614610]

>>10614600
most of your peers are bad at math too, you’re a slightly bigger fish in a very shallow pool.

[Anonymous No.10614636]

>>10614610
No like I got a D- in Diff Eq while almost everyone else got A’s and B’s. We can see the grade distributions at my school. There was no single concept that I couldn’t understand but come test time I never had a strong enough grasp to perform well.

[Anonymous No.10614641]

>>10612322
This. I am a BME major and I took this shit Jr year of high school. OP is king of brainlets.

[Anonymous No.10614652]

>>10614641
You are literally an engineer. You have no right to call anyone a brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10614738]

>>10612314
I thought calc was easier than algebra actually. It just makes more sense for some reason, even though algebra is part of it. I don't know why.

[Anonymous No.10614747]

>>10612314
>Where does this hatred for calc 2 come in?

people on this board aren't actually that smart and it's mostly just inflated egos

[Anonymous No.10614763]

>>10614504

retarded anime poster is trying to cope kek

[Anonymous No.10614770]

>>10614165
no shit. i took it up the ass in calc as i was bad at algebra,& never had trig

[Anonymous No.10614784]

>>10614763
>t. reddit

[Anonymous No.10614923]

If you passed calc 2 by investing time studying and not by getting high at the skate park you fucked up.

[Anonymous No.10615045]

>>10614474
also keep in mind that in the UK most people only take 3 subjects at the end of HS, and you maths can count for two. (maths and further maths)

[Anonymous No.10615123]

>>10614603
I decided that math wasn't for me. I now study German.

[Anonymous No.10615148]

Brainlets


Of the lower divison courses every mathchads favorite course was calc2.

[Anonymous No.10615170]

>>10612316
He's right though, calc 2 is piss easy shit

[Anonymous No.10616142]

>>10614652
That was exactly my point, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10616178]

>>10613087
>Perfect scores on all calc II exams and a 'good job' from qt professor
Pathetic. I got extra credit on all my exams and got a hand job from my qt professor.
Homeschool master race checking in

[Anonymous No.10616255]

>>10616142
>brainlet
You are literally an engineer. You have no right to call anyone a brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10616259]

>>10612314
>series are intuitive
yes if you get handed EZ AS FUKC series

[Anonymous No.10616264]

>>10616255
*builds the modern world*
*made the device you are using to shitpost on*

[Anonymous No.10616269]

>>10616264
Engineers don't build shit.

[Anonymous No.10616273]

>>10616269
Yeah they don't build shit. They build nearly every useful product in society. Keep seething, theoretical-fag

[Anonymous No.10616280]

>>10616273
>They build nearly every useful product in society.
Name one.

[Anonymous No.10616315]

>>10616280
computers

[Anonymous No.10616323]

>>10616315
Computers were invented by mathematicians. Modern ones are designed, not built, by engineers.

[Anonymous No.10616334]

>>10614522
w-what baby series, dont you evaluate the fraction part using the third part of (i) ie swapping 1/x by x? and integrating from 0 to 1.

[Anonymous No.10616351]

>>10616323
John Neumann was an engineer he came up with the system by your mathematics can be put to work on a physical device and is the basis of computers and information technology today

[Anonymous No.10616384]

>>10616323
Also prosthetics, cars, trains, bridges, manufacturing machines, etc. All would not be possible without engineers applying science and math.

[Anonymous No.10616396]

>>10616384
>All would not be possible without engineers applying science and math.
What's your point? All would also not be possible without math or science.

[Anonymous No.10616400]

>>10616351
Neumann was a mathematician.

[Anonymous No.10616401]

>>10616396
My point is that being condescending to engineers and acting as if they are never intelligent and have nothing to contribute is a retarded position.

[Anonymous No.10616417]

>>10616401
Yet engineers are always the first to call others brainlets >>10614641 >>10616142

[Anonymous No.10616422]

>Calc 2 was easy
>Calc 3 was easy
>Lin alg was easy
>decide math is easy for me and I can probably accelerate my learning my taking more math courses at the same time
>taking diff eq, vector calculus, and discrete math
>all actually difficult compared to the shit before
>getting raped on three fronts and have no time for my 3 other classes
>gpa probably going to drop from a 3.9 to a 3.6
Pride comes before the fall, anons

[Anonymous No.10616426]

>>10616417
Yeah, that's just cause I like to be an asshole, retard. Also OP needs to learn to be more humble. I think everyone here needs to be more humble. Some of you haven't experienced the Dunning-Kruger effect yet.

[Anonymous No.10616429]

>>10616422
congrats on surviving that though. You never know what your limit is until you push yourself to it and begin to fall apart.

[Anonymous No.10616459]

>>10612314
My undergrad was in Electrical Engineering and I thought that Multivariable Calculus and Differential Equations were more difficult than Calc 2. These were two different classes that we took after Calc 2, but I know some schools sort of mix and match some things and have classes like "Calc 3" that might cover the same topics.

That being said, all of the core math classes I took as an Electrical Engineer were easy compared to the math-heavy engineering classes. Electronic circuits, signal processing, and electromagnetic fields and waves are all topics that build heavily off of Calc 2+, but were much more difficult than the core math classes themselves. The capstone project we did during our senior year was probably the roughest part of the degree, mainly because of the large time investment and stress involved with coordinating with teammates and professionals in industry.

If you thought that Calc 2 was easy, then it means you're on a good track and you're probably in the right place, but don't let it get to your head until you finish.

[Anonymous No.10616466]

>>10613100
Plenty of engineers work in labs anon. They're a good way of reducing the risk of production testing by allowing engineers to test their products in a controlled environment. Risk reduction leads to big cost savings in some industries.

[Anonymous No.10616470]

>>10612314
>differential equations
>hard
>woahhh calculate the equation of salt concentration in Tank A WOAAAaaaAAAAaH

[Anonymous No.10616482]

>>10616426
>only im allowed to like being an asshole, everyone else is just arrogant
Dumbshit engineer

[Anonymous No.10616600]

>>10616400
Every engineer has to be a mathematician, it is their most basic tool. They are also aware of not going full autismo into math so real world problems can be solved instead of debating over infinitesimal differences.

[Anonymous No.10616788]

>>10616600
What is this reverse-"no true Scotsman" falacy called?

[Anonymous No.10616978]

>>10616600
>Every engineer has to be a mathematician
Using mathematics as a tool doesn't make you a mathematician.

[Anonymous No.10616983]

This is where it comes from. Calculus starts off nice and comfy in order to lull you into a false sense of security and then buttfucks you relentlessly.