/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10526789]

So in last 50 years. We had lost:
> 60% of all mammals
> 60% of all birds
> 60% of all reptiles
> even more insects(although there is no consensus what % exactly)
besides that:
> we are having cataclysms more often
> accelerating global warming
> giant deforestation
> we have to give up some freedom to sustain even more people
These are all terrible things mostly caused by our economics which is build for never ending growth.
How can we stop this.
What can we do with overpopulation?

[Anonymous No.10526791]

>>10526789
>of all X
Wrong

[Anonymous No.10526795]

>>10526791
I think domestic animals don't count anon.

[Anonymous No.10526820]

>>10526789
>How can we stop this.
First, stop voting for a retarded president (Trump and Co.).

Second, stop voting for the right-wing.

[Anonymous No.10526823]

>>10526789
*cough*

[Anonymous No.10526829]

>>10526823

[Anonymous No.10526841]

>>10526820
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.10526842]

>>10526823
I am from a country which deeply hastes communism. I am also against socialism but I think it's pretty clear current system has brought us to terrible situation which will clearly affect us in the future.
If you have any good ideas how to solve these problems using open market strategies I am all for it, but I don't think it's possible.

[Anonymous No.10526967]

>>10526789
>>10526842
you idealist types are so cute.
listen, I agree with you that technology consumes us, literally, but theres no way back to simpler times, and if we say to go back and slow down and retake traditions and old virtues more insync with nature...well now you get called a science denier and a religious fundamentalist by the "I LOVE science" types, to make science you need exploitation of the earth resources "but we could do it responsibly!" well you gonna have to define exactly what that is because in order to build the CERN collider it was needed to literally exploit earth in many ways (its an underground tunnel with a HUGE amount of different earth resources used, copper, iron, steel, aluminium... etc...etc and the huge ships and machinery that are needed to transport all that) but of course you were not talking about that literal monstrosity that is the CERN collider or the GE plant that builds MRI machines to scan the body looking for cancer...nop, because "I love science" and you were ONLY talking about plastic bottles and engines exhaust...


Heidegger already saw the pervasiveness of technology and understood it very well to even exclaim "only a God could saves us"... but Heidegger was a nazi so you better not listen to him.

[Anonymous No.10526974]

>We had lost
>We
what we you entitled turbo autist. thats the most retarded minset. theres no we, "we" didnt "lose" anything, these werent even ours in the first place, thats some biblical nonsense of "owning the creation".

these are animals that died because one species cucked all the rest. you can delay technology but you cant abolish, you can take 2 millennia to discover microprocessors, but it was bound to happen. transhumanism is bound to happen, extintion of all species on earth is bound to happen.

[Anonymous No.10526979]

>>10526842
>deeply hastes communism
I sthis some fancy kind of accelerationism?
>If you have any good ideas how to solve these problems using open market strategies I am all for it, but I don't think it's possible.
Literally Fisher's quote "It is ieasier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism"

[Anonymous No.10527017]

>>10526789

[Anonymous No.10527076]

>>10527017
>climate change
didnt you all call it "global warming" 5 years ago? they are very different concepts, whats your plan here.

[Anonymous No.10527078]

As the planet worsens, the economic incentive to leave earth increases and we are able to diversify our planetary portfolio, ensuring the survival of our species. All other systems are extinction.

[Anonymous No.10527079]

>>10527076
>they are very different concepts
What did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.10527089]

>>10527078
>He thinks humanity will survive the century

[Anonymous No.10527099]

>>10526789
Let Darwinism play out and the degenerates and retards will die off

[Anonymous No.10527109]

>>10527076
global warming is global, duh.
climate change is local, for example the recent u.s. east coast cold snap (which was more than balanced by arctic warming)

[Anonymous No.10527113]

>>10527076
No they aren't. It was changed to 'climate change' because idiots couldn't understand it would cause extremes in climate and weather. Overall climate change means the earth's climate is warming.

[Anonymous No.10527114]

>>10527017
the root of the tree might have correct points but i think the conclusion is incorrect. even before trump the media was vastly pro-climate change even down to the "98% of scientist agree..." trump is leaning for no-climate change so the media doubles down on pro-climate change.

[Anonymous No.10527126]

>>10527114
>even before trump
the pic has 2011 on it, so duhh

[Anonymous No.10527138]

>>10527099

This, but not degenerates (which is a good thing)

We should get rid of welfare and let the lowest be culled naturally in the free market

Generation by generation, we will improve as a species genetically

[Anonymous No.10527139]

Stop China from building ghost cities and you’ll see a marked improvement in global climate very quickly.

[Anonymous No.10527145]

>>10526789
>global warming
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.10527176]

>>10526842
This is really the biggest argument in favor of communism being necessary for any responsible action to be taken.

[Anonymous No.10527193]

>>10526789
An ornithologist (PhD in veterinary science) friend explained to me that bird extinction rates are absurdly overinflated in most scare statistics, because the term "extinction" is used on a per-country or even per-territory basis. i.e. if a species of bird is no longer observed in a specific country starting in some year, it is recorded as extinct there. Thus at the very least any species of bird is counted as extinct multiple times for each country it stops appearing in. More than that, re-appearances of the bird (since habitation ranges are in a constant flux) are not subtracted from this figure. So if the same species is only observed in a country once every few years, as e.g. some migratory species are in Europe, the same bird is counted as going extinct again every time it stops appearing for a few years. Separately for every country.

Then this hugely inflated figure is compared to the total number of known bird species and gives you a silly figure like say 60%, even though the actual number of bird species globally barely changed.

I'm not sure how this translates to other species, from what I understand the systems of recording for birds specifically are uniquely complex and byzantine.

[Anonymous No.10527247]

>>10526789
We haven't lost 60% of any of those groups, making ridiculous claims to back your agenda is foolish. The actual numbers are sufficiently concerning, but when you use faked data you risk having the problem rejected as false when your data is revealed as false.

[Anonymous No.10527251]

>>10526829
Admittedly, drawing hands is a bit tricky, but c'mon man!

[Anonymous No.10527288]

>>10527113
>Overall climate change means the earth's climate is warming.

Or, theoretically, cooling, which would also cause climate change. Other factors could also change and bring about change in climate -- changes in the quantity of condensation nuclei, changes in atmospheric gases through vulcanism, asteroid strikes, or even continental movements in the long term.

[Anonymous No.10527302]

>>10526789
capitalism isn't the problem. Its many of the business models operating within the capitalist framework. Namely, its the construction and banking sectors which rely mainly on economic/population growth. Those are the sectors driving mass immigration as well.

[Anonymous No.10527316]

>>10527288
All these things could cause climate change and have in the past, but none are relevant in the timescales we care about right now.

[Anonymous No.10527340]

>>10526820
Literally playing the disney game.
>Everything will just fix itself if we believe!
Seriously tho, what action should we take? It's super unnerving that your answer depends on who is president so I don't even know why I'm bothering to ask you. Like you don't want a world that goes down that path anyway. You're asking the president to take away your privilege to drive. What's to stop the next president from just usurping another privilege? We already gave the office the right to take away freedoms at will.
Seriously fuck you and your politics.
>I need the gooberment to tell me what to do with my life before I act
Fuck you, you pathetic excuse for life.
You don't even think. What are you doing here talking? Quit shitting up the place.

[Anonymous No.10527344]

>>10527302
Based

[Anonymous No.10527355]

Blame China, India, Africa for population growth and air polution. Blame South America for clearcutting. Blame SE Asia for plastics thrown in the sea.

Leave us out of this.

[Anonymous No.10527356]

>>10526789
>These are all terrible things
how?

[Anonymous No.10527362]

Mouse utopia will be our demise.
Repent anons!

[Anonymous No.10527376]

>>10527340
First stop the myth that overpopulation isn't a problem and that we should breed more.
Second drop coal usage instead of investing more money in it.
Create more national parks and more important ocean parks for marine life breeding/mating locations.
Why ban cars? You could just invest money in public transport so people would prefer to use it.
To be fair also banning diesel cars in favour of electric would be a good step in my opinion.(electric cars aren't cheap enough though so that would be a long term goal).
Of course with smaller population you wouldn't need to ban anything(with exception of coal).
If we want more freedom we need stop breeding like rabbits or our civilization will be unsustainable(actually it already is) but in most countries right wing is spreading this bs that everything is fine.
Also what is your solution for co2, plastic and decline of life everywhere?

[Anonymous No.10527378]

>>10526820

In China for the Olympics they shut off major industry near where the foreigners were because the smog would of been too bad to have athletic events. Don't assume it's a single nation state actor and don't attach your Political beliefs to you action plan.

For example ocean plastic pollution.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stemming-the-plastic-tide-10-rivers-contribute-most-of-the-plastic-in-the-oceans/

The drive of China to get economic success and their inability to control ecological damage is a statement. In the US where multiple parties compete and strive for advantage means if you can present a clear and present danger in ecology you have a chance to make changes. In China with it's control by a small oligarchy who will not be affected by eco catastrophes unless it get real bad is the worse danger to our world.With their media control and top down control there will be no grass roots movements like in Europe, Japan and North America for eco recovery. India and industrialized Africa have the same limited numbers of people in control and equivalent issues.
China is the greatest threat to our global ecology though.

https://truthout.org/articles/china-s-communist-capitalist-ecological-apocalypse/

https://qz.com/india/1307728/the-china-india-rivalry-is-causing-an-ecological-disaster-in-the-himalayas/

[Anonymous No.10527387]

>>10527302
>capitalism isn't the problem. Its many of the business models operating within the capitalist framework. Namely, its the construction and banking sectors which rely mainly on economic/population growth. Those are the sectors driving mass immigration as well.
Slavery isn't the problem, it's the imperialist model that is not sustainable and is driving mass immigration.

Such great argumentz bruh

[Anonymous No.10527397]

neochina arrives from the future

[Anonymous No.10527430]

>>10527355
Funny how the USA isn't part of the blame. Your hands are sooo clean, right.

[Anonymous No.10527529]

>>10526789
Most animal dies in 50 year. Wtf is problem

[Anonymous No.10527661]

>>10527529
wtf is English.

[Anonymous No.10527682]

>>10527387
>it's the imperialist model that is not sustainable and is driving mass immigration.
I should have said benefiting from mass immigration. The construction and banking sectors definitely benefit from it. I don't know what's driving it but I have a feeling the people who drive it and the people who benefit directly from it hang out at the same cocktail parties.

[Anonymous No.10528180]

>>10526967
I second this.

[Anonymous No.10528185]

ever read The Stand?

[Anonymous No.10529238]

>>10527355
>Blame everyone but the people who contribute the most to the problem.
The US has per-capita emission way above that of China or India.

[Anonymous No.10529286]

>>10527089
It will. We've survived far worse. Modern civilization? That's the one almost guaranteed to fall, so enjoy it while you can.

[Anonymous No.10529291]

>>10529286
>clueless about exponential growth
imagine being this retarded

[Anonymous No.10529292]

>>10526789
>These are all terrible things mostly caused by our economics which is build for never ending growth.
>How can we stop this.
>What can we do with overpopulation?
Genocide, fucking duh.

[Anonymous No.10529303]

>>10529291
What exponential growth? Human population will stabilize in the future.

[Anonymous No.10529309]

>>10529303
retardation confirmed

[Anonymous No.10529377]

>>10529309
>if I just call him a retard surely I'll come out looking like the winner!

[Anonymous No.10529490]

>>10526789
Humans have been doing this for billions of years!

[Anonymous No.10529513]

>>10529377
>seething

[Anonymous No.10529700]

>>10526789
>What can we do with overpopulation?
Every country should introduce this law:
One couple can have maximum 2 children.

[Anonymous No.10529710]

>>10529490
Those extinctions happened over longer periods of time though, Usually over millions of years.
The Holocene Extinction is happening over a mere few thousands.

[Anonymous No.10529719]

>>10526789
>So in last 50 years. We had lost:
>> 60% of all mammals
>> 60% of all birds
>> 60% of all reptiles
BBUUUULLLLSHHHIIITTTT.

NAME THEM.

[Anonymous No.10529731]

>>10529719
This refers to population numbers decline.
Not species going extinct.
A good example of a very popular animal is European eel. It's population has decreased over 90%(newest reports are saying that it's even 98%) since 1970.

[Anonymous No.10529742]

>>10529731
>European eel
What else?

[Anonymous No.10529750]

>>10527017
The main problem is the "Wrong People" being vocal about climate change. That's what you get when you poison good and vital ideas with bullshit. That's why radical centrists should be the only ones opening their big fat mouths about that issue.

[Anonymous No.10529757]

>>10529700
congratz, you think 11 billion is the bee's knees

[Anonymous No.10529764]

>>10529700
>couple
I bet you believe in the gender binary as well, you bigot.

[Anonymous No.10529772]

>>10529750
They're not the "wrong people", just misguided folks following a pseudoreligion. An imminent apocalypse caused by unrepentant sinners, that can only be warded off by penitent sacrifice? All evolved impulses as sure as obese peoples' appetite for fat and sugar.

I'll consider it a real problem if they commit one of their cardinal sins and seriously push for nuclear power.

[Anonymous No.10529780]

>>10529742
>>10529742
I am European so I don't know how are the species in us(also we have to remember that the biggest declines are near Antarctic, South America, Africa and Asia on which we have highest climate change impact and deforestation).
But there was 60% decline of house sparrow here which was a very popular species.

[Anonymous No.10529855]

>>10526789
Continue as normal but quintuple our energy output.

[Anonymous No.10530221]

Obvious solution: Don't support capitalism, nationalism, religion, racism, or anything else that divides us and causes competition/conflict. Instead, promote global collaboration and action against global problems through long-term planned economic approaches.

Incels and other genuine degenerates that vote for right wing parties worldwide: "NO, IT'S ALL THE NIGGERS', JEWS', COMMIES' AND TRIGGERED LIBERAL SJW SNOWFLAKES' FAULT! I DON'T NEED TO CHANGE MY BEHAVIOUR! I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG! MY COUNTRY/CULTURE IS SUPERIOR! FUCK MUSLIMS/COMMIES/OTHER COUNTRIES, THEY WANT TO TAKE OVER MY SOCIETY AND TAKE MY PROPERTY! FUCK HUMANITY, THERE'S NOTHING TO SAVE!"

[Anonymous No.10530240]

>>10530221
This naive altruism works, until a subgroup defects in a coordinated manner beneficial to themselves.

[Anonymous No.10530399]

>>10527076
>whats your plan here.
People would easy spot the hoax on cold weather. But now they can claim everything on climate change. Even if its colder.

[Anonymous No.10530709]

>>10529303
>Human population will stabilize in the future.

You never considered that the people who are saying this are the ones currently benefiting from population growth, and that saying it is a stall tactic so morons like you won't hold them accountable while they continue to make obscene profits?

[Anonymous No.10530714]

>>10526823
>>10526829
killyourself >>10530221
Kill yourself commies are not welcome on sci

[Anonymous No.10530717]

>>10530709
How is that related to people "benefiting from population growth"? It's a scientific fact.

[Anonymous No.10530733]

>>10530717
Sure it is. But I doubt the UN economists know fuck all about how and when?

>Human population will stabilize in the future.

[Anonymous No.10531481]

>>10529731
>This refers to population numbers decline.
>Not species going extinct.
Well it was awfully poorly worded if this is the case.

[Anonymous No.10531554]

>>10527302
The only way capitalism can thrive is through growth of their respective economies. This inherently increases demand, production, and therefore pollution.

You need a third party outside of this profit system to reel in businesses. Unfortunately, governments are becoming tangled within this system and therefore have a direct incentive not to stop.

[Anonymous No.10531559]

>>10530714
S-shut up DUMBASS RIGHTWINGER!!!

[Anonymous No.10531881]

>>10527089
>>10529286

[Anonymous No.10531882]

>>10526789
>deforestation

Actually we have more forests now than ever before in written history.

[Anonymous No.10531957]

>>10531882
I haven't heard this one before, source?

[Anonymous No.10532442]

>>10531957
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/8039667/Forest-levels-booming-as-UK-woodland-returns-to-highest-level-in-more-than-250-years.html
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/08/planet-earth-has-more-trees-than-it-did-35-years-ago/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/09/02/scientists-discover-that-the-world-contains-dramatically-more-trees-than-previously-thought/

Also,
https://www.citylab.com/environment/2018/01/northern-forest-united-kingdom/550025/

[Anonymous No.10532474]

>>10527355
US has highest plastic pollution and emissions per capita and in total.
The only one who should be left out of the blame is as always the only one who actually cares about stuff like that...

[Anonymous No.10532561]

>>10532474
See: >>10527378
>https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stemming-the-plastic-tide-10-rivers-contribute-most-of-the-plastic-in-the-oceans/

[Anonymous No.10532677]

>>10526974
>we
We the occupiers of planet earth. We the inhabitants. We the apex predators. We the enlightened.

You the faggot.

[Anonymous No.10533194]

>>10531554
>The only way capitalism can thrive is through growth of their respective economies.
That's not true. "Capitalism" is simply the freedom of people/organizations to consume whatever resources whenever they want without government interference. Without the additional source of resources/energy provided by the industrial revolution it would have been steady state.

[Anonymous No.10533199]

>>10531882
>>10532442
It's truly amazing that people are stupid enough to believe this kind of absolute nonsense and even manage to vomit up "sources" that back up their retarded claims.

Have you even looked around on google earth at formerly forested regions?

[Anonymous No.10533389]

>>10527017

This is a great schematic of the overall problem, thanks

[Anonymous No.10533405]

>"The culture has a death urge... an urge to destroy all life"

>When I was a child
>And big brother held on to my hands
>and he made me slap my own face
>Now I know what it was
>Now I know what he meant
>Now I know what it is
>One
>Must eat the other
>Who runs free before him;
>Put him right into his mouth
>While fantasizing
>The beauty of his movements
>A sensation, not unlike
>Slapping yourself in the face

[Anonymous No.10535304]

>>10530240
>a subgroup

Yes. Exactly.

[Anonymous No.10535350]

>>10526789

>Extinction

Important animals will remain because we will make them remain. Useless ones will disappear. The fact that we've lost so much animals is a shitty argument, considering there's been next to no ill effects.

>Cataclysms

What does this even mean? Disasters do more damage because we have more money. Adjust for inflation and come back chastened.

>Deforestation

Oh no, at present rate of decline the Amazon might be gone in 400 years!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_of_the_Amazon_rainforest#Forest_loss_rates

Typical eco-communist crap. The market's just too successful in making people richer and healthier, we better shut it down to save the endangered green-nosed warbler.

[Anonymous No.10535359]

>>10530221

[Anonymous No.10535446]

>>10533199
and yet everything crumbles when growth-rates drop...

[Anonymous No.10535470]

Destroying capitalism is literally the only way we can save humanity. Only brainlets don't realise this

[Anonymous No.10535473]

>>10526789
There is literally nothing we can do. Humans are biologically driven towards growth. We will expand until we can carry our weight no more. Then we'll all die. Expect this to happen around 2100

[Anonymous No.10535475]

>>10530221
Right wing people have far more children than left wing people, so if anything leftists are the incels

[Anonymous No.10535479]

>>10531881
>literally no growth pattern
>describes events that haven't happened yet
>muslim dark ages

okay bud

[Anonymous No.10535484]

>>10527017
But this still doesn't explain how it works. What's the process here? What are these arrows suggesting? This just looks like some conspiretard bullshit.

[Anonymous No.10535555]

Incentivise green energy and stop voting for degenerate oil magnates and their buddies. Realise that 'muh border wall' and 'muh abortion' is of literally no value to the human race.

[Anonymous No.10535584]

>>10535555
It's arguably of value to keeping a society intact.

What happens if every company starts taking out "climate change" insurance, will the insurance companies start to do unbiased and efficient research into minimising risk?

[Anonymous No.10535608]

>>10526789
Die.

[Anonymous No.10536740]

More like caused by overpopulation and the ever growing need for space and resources
Wildlife just happens to live in that space and fuel these resources

[Anonymous No.10537428]

>>10527139
>>10527355

and how exactly will the west force them to stop

[Anonymous No.10537636]

>>10526789
>thinks the earth exists in a vacuum devoid of all astonishingly powerful external factors
>must then think all of the numerous catastrophic climate changes and mass extinctions over millions of years must have also been greedy oil men smoking cigars
you have a religion, anon

[Anonymous No.10537944]

>>10537428
Economic incentives, sanctions, or just wait for them to stop. China is going to finish what's basically a late industrial revolution and start cutting back on carbon emissions in a few decades, but India is a little more behind and has a quicker growing population. Isn't it funny to thing that the fate of the environment could lie in the somewhat dirty hands of people who defecate outdoors?

Anyhow, replace coal with gas, replace gas with fission, replace fission with fusion is how I suspect things will be tending towards over the next couple of centuries. Provided we can get that last step, that is. Either way we should be tending towards a more and more efficient society that may eventually be able to survive just off highly efficient solar and geothermal or latent radioisotope generation.

Perhaps in the far future we'll even have massive climate engines, that we turn on to pump vast amounts of gasses in or out of the atmosphere for the purpose of altering the climate of the planet, as a sort of analog to terraforming machines on other worlds. This is basically necessary if we want to extend the planet's habitability as close to the sun going pop as possible, though at that distant a time we may not think of that as as much of a priority at all. One can only hope that there will be a continuous recorded history from now until then, if only for educational purposes.

[Anonymous No.10539783]

>>10535608

unironically this.
if you really want to help the best you can do is commit suicide because your sole existance needs a huge amount of resources, example your food that uses all kinds of technology trucks tractors electricity etc etc the internet needs a huge amound of resources too...
reducing population will make the biggest contribution.

[Anonymous No.10540669]

>>10539783
Wouldn't it be better if I killed other people? If I kill myself that's only one person dead. But if I start killing others I can potentially get dozens of kills before someone kills me.

[Anonymous No.10540925]

>>10526979
Well, maybe it is.
If earth used to had life without oxigen, it could create new life after, let's say, a nuclear war. I'm sure the next generation of species will solve the problem that lead humanity to destructive capitalism.

[Anonymous No.10540940]

>>10540669
Thanks anon. You've just given me an idea for a character.

[Anonymous No.10540989]

>>10527397
Do not accelerate too fast

[Anonymous No.10541060]

So in last 50 years. We had lost:
> 60% of all mammals
> 60% of all birds
> 60% of all reptiles
> even more insects(although there is no consensus what % exactly)
besides that:
> we are having cataclysms more often
> accelerating global warming
> giant deforestation
> we have to give up some freedom to sustain even more people

and thats a good thing

[Anonymous No.10541183]

>>10535479
based newfag

[Anonymous No.10542567]

>>10535555
>he thinks any politician is going to push any of that going green garbage

Lmao fucking scicucks. Go ahead vote in your epic green liberal and watch them revert to the same bush era shit weve been putting up with for 40 years. Get fucking real

[Anonymous No.10542607]

>>10526789
>never ending growth
You mean group ego aggregation?

[Anonymous No.10542629]

>>10526789
While we're certainly experiencing a mass extinction, I suggest knowing exactly where those figures come from. I know a large portion of extinction rate numbers are from a debunked 70s study, which is rightfully dismissed by academics but cited endlessly by popsci garbage.

[Anonymous No.10542648]

>>10541060
Here's why:

[Anonymous No.10542649]

>>10530221
I thought that competition accelerates development?

[Anonymous No.10542761]

>>10542649
Competition accelerates exploitation. Not all forms of resource utilization are pro-human-longevity.

[Anonymous No.10542783]

You all are so greedy to think you can have your cake and eat it too. Something has to be sacrificed. Here's my prediction anyways. The population will decline eventually. Whether it is through an epidemic or not is irrelevant. You can already see how western lifestyle is affecting birth rates. Not only do people decide to not have children but you see many more women not being able to have children without having to go to a clinic for insemination. Like everything in the universe, there is a counter force to balance or destroy it. Humans are no different even though we have big enough egos to think we are god-like. The fittest survive and the weak are culled. Humans just have s lot of weak in need to be culled. Eventually we won't be able to prop it up anymore. It probably won't be quick but it will be steady.

[Anonymous No.10542792]

>>10542629
https://www.centralmaine.com/2019/03/18/our-view-rapid-decline-in-insect-population-is-alarming/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/great-barrier-reef-dying-climate-change-caused-decrease-in-new-coral-study-says/
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/06/130621-threats-against-birds-cats-wind-turbines-climate-change-habitat-loss-science-united-states/
Study after study shows a sharp decline.

[Anonymous No.10542796]

>>10526789
>So in last 50 years. We had lost:
>> 60% of all mammals
>> 60% of all birds
>> 60% of all reptiles

Bullshit

[Anonymous No.10542799]

>>10542567
>don't even try because I don't want you to

[Anonymous No.10542827]

>>10526789
>How can we stop this.
>What can we do with overpopulation?
this unfolds naturally anon. you need do nothing. sloth confided in me that all things will be resolved in time because people are to stupid on average in the west to understand that their life styles were not sustainable

as the west declines due to the desire to have greater profit margins 3rd world nations that had partially developed fall into ruin in most cases. they will implode and their people will die mostly. this is all vary darwinian. countries that cannot accept basic truths of this world will be incapable of feeding their own people despite having the land to do so .no excuses for lack of water since desalinization plants are easy to make and the oceans cover so much of the earth.

they are condemned by their lack of understanding in "the information age". dullards wandering through life expecting capitalism to save them. a system built on pure form greed will save the collective... ahhahahahHAhahaHahHaHaHaahah

relief may come to late for many species but they will be avenged and the offenders will do the dirty work to save every one the trouble. no one need dirty their blade with such lowly bottom feeders blood... if they dont want to