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They found another galaxy without dark matter. I don’t know what to think anymore.

http://www.astronomy.com/news/2019/03/ghostly-galaxy-without-dark-matter-confirmed

>> No.10519273

>>10519164
Dark matter is a fable.

t. Ben Davidson

>> No.10519307

I still think it's just cold interstellar gas and dust.

>> No.10519308

>>10519307
But that much?

>> No.10519343

>>10519307
no its hot intelligent gas and dust, or in other words, A.I. (Artificial Intelligence) gas and dust programmed by an interdimensional race of hypergalactic pan-dimensional beings

>> No.10519344

>>10519308
Yeah. Once stars start to shine they probably do a pretty good job of pushing away material that might otherwise become trapped in their system. A galaxy has enough space to support a vast about of free interstellar material.

>> No.10519637

>>10519164
>0.5% of the stars compared to MW
'tis but a random puff

>> No.10519640

>>10519164
>he fell for the space meme

>> No.10519653

>>10519307
Here's a basic overview of how we know that's not true.
https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/could-dark-matter-just-be-normal-stuff-thats-dark-5e680e7a066e

There's lots of literature out there on why dark matter can't be baryonic matter, it's not hard to find.

>> No.10519971

bump

>> No.10519994

>>10519164
Damn we are even more clueless than before.
And we used to be completely clueless.

>> No.10520014

Dark matter is probably just what happens to our "souls" when we die. Our essence of life drifts up into the universe.

>> No.10520020

>>10519164
this just makes the case for dark matter being stuff we can't see stronger

>> No.10520024

>>10520014
I've read into this too. There's increasing evidence that dark matter is our consciousness.

>> No.10520044

>>10519164
Just more evidence that it's a weakly-interacting substance and not an elusive quirk of gravity.

>> No.10520045

>>10519164
It means MOND is BTFO

>> No.10520079

>>10520024
>There's increasing evidence that dark matter is our consciousness.
define "consciousness"

>> No.10520082

>>10520079
Our soul, to echo the other anon. There's increasing evidence that when we die, the part of us that makes our "soul" or what makes us us, ends up as dark matter. The theory states that all the dark matter in the universe is the "souls" of everyone with intelligent thought.

>> No.10520085

>>10520024
>increasing evidence
Provide said evidence.

>> No.10520093

>>10520024
There's increasing evidence that you're a brainlet.

>> No.10520106

>dark matter
Nice meme. It would be more respectable to stick with what's real and the theories you have, and accept that they are incomplete, than throw in voodoo nonsense like dark energy and dark matter.
>hmmm our theory is mostly correct, but there are some areas that lack
>lol let's just throw in some fixing factors and call it 'dark matter' so the idiots thinks it's sciency

>> No.10520118

>>10520082
>>>/x/

>> No.10520122

>>10519164
Wow OP ur mum so fat she ate all the dark matter in that galaxie xD

>> No.10520123

>>10520085
Google it dude? I find it hard to believe you're on a math and science forum and don't know how to research for yourself

>> No.10520126

>>10520118
how is that paranormal lmao. they just did studies on this and most scientists believe it. you a flat earther too?

>> No.10520139

>>10520106
>Some areas
96% of the universe.

>> No.10520146

>>10520139
Wow that bad huh? Not very academically honest to see your theory is that bad and they just claim that huge error is muh spooky darkies

>> No.10520152
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>>10520146

>> No.10520233

>>10520014
>>10520024
read about this too crazy shit

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10520235

>>10519164
>without-dark-matter
That's my galaxy.

>> No.10520239

>>10520045
yeah, true.... this debunks MOND real hard.

anyhow i don't think it's unusual that we found galaxies with no dark matter. i mean, we've also seen spots in the sky that are a lot of dark matter with very little visible matter, and in reverse it would be much harder to detect a little bit of dark matter with a bunch of ordinary matter. also looking at the bullet cluster, i could imagine that some sort of cluster/galaxy collision can happen that separates the dark matter away from the ordinary matter

>> No.10520241

>>10519164
Das rayciss

>> No.10520244

>>10519307
how do you propose we test your theory?

>> No.10520245

>>10519164
Dark matter can easily be fused into pure energy, and those galaxies have advanced alien civs. It's the only explanation.

>> No.10520250

>>10519994
time to look for correllations. This seems actually really useful

>> No.10520259

>>10520082
what is with people that suffer from dementia and their intelligence slowly dwindles into nothingness?

>> No.10520466

>>10520082
This looks promising in our understanding of dark matter.

>> No.10520500

>>10519164
This proves god exists and is manipulating our reality via dark matter and dark energy.

>> No.10520530

>>10520106
Back in the 1820s when astronomers figured out that Uranus's orbit didn't match up with their predictions, some proposed that gravity worked differently far away from the sun, while others predicted a more distant, hard to see planet (a "dark planet", if you will) was causing the mismatch. Twenty-some years later the matter was resolved with the discovery of Neptune.

Granted, later on a more accurate gravity theory (general relativity) was developed (and ended up being the solution to Mercury's orbit not matching up with Newtonian gravity, rather than the proposed planet Vulcan). That said, the dark matter hypothesis seems to be a more logical solution to various observations, compared to any modified gravity theory yet devised. I don't get why so many people get butt hurt that at the idea that there are a bunch of particles that are sorta like neutrinos, only even harder to detect.

>> No.10520531

>>10520244
How do you suppose we test the existing theories?
This is a much more reasonable hypothesis than the others.

>> No.10520593

>>10520244
>>10520531
This hypothesis has been tested, and it's been falsified.
https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/could-dark-matter-just-be-normal-stuff-thats-dark-5e680e7a066e

>> No.10520628

>>10519164

Why not just have a large number of black holes and rouge planets, to account for the missing mass?

>> No.10520665

>>10520628
The problem with black holes is that there's not way to detect them with current space technology. Sonar waves don't bounce back from a black hole so we have no way to tell where they are until it's too late.

>> No.10520692

>>10520665
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO#Observations

>> No.10520724

>>10520665
That’s not true at all. Their accretion discs and gravitational effects are pretty simplistic to notice.

>> No.10520750

>>10520530
I figured out ur mum's anus didn't match my dick back in her 18-20s if you know what I mean

>> No.10520753

>>10520593
This. Anyone who says that scientists are just morons who don't see the obvious don't get how much work goes into this shit.

>> No.10520754

>>10520628
The tiny primordial black holes theory was just recently debunked too. We have very few options left. It's certainly something no one has even thought of yet.

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>>10520123
>dude theres a floating cia space nigger floating somewhere in space
>can you provide evidence for that?
>google it dude? i find it hard to believe you're on a math and science forum and don't know how to research for yourself
the absolute state of /sci/

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>>10520024
>>10520123
Making a factual statement without providing evidence is a cardinal sin of all science

>> No.10520764

>>10520759
>>10520760
>responding to trolls

>> No.10520771

>>10520123
The burden of proof lays on the accuser, i.e. you

>> No.10520773

>>10520764
i think you're a bit too optimistic about people

>> No.10520774

>>10520764
It's not trolling, since trolling requires some capacity of intelligence to pull off

>> No.10520776

>>10520773
The answer is obviously that the troll is responding to himself.

>> No.10520778

>>10520774
>trolling requires intelligence
>when that fag's been shitting up the whole thread

>> No.10520786

>>10520778
An intelligent troll need only make one post

>> No.10520792

Poe's law in action.

>> No.10520805

>2019
>still doesn't know that space is a scam

>> No.10520860

>>10520805
>>>/lgbt/

>> No.10522349

>>10519164
What you don't know what to think? There was already Dragonfly 44 four years ago https://www.space.com/33850-weird-galaxy-is-mostly-dark-matter.html

>> No.10522367

>>10520250
My bet?
Highly evolved aliens doing something funky.
Maybe they can interact with dark matter.
Or maybe they are made out of dark matter and they are right here and we can't see them.

>> No.10522794

>>10520500
So what did those galaxies do for God to forsake them?

>> No.10522879

>>10520500
cringe

>> No.10522927
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>>10520786

>> No.10523182

>>10520082
>anon asks proof
>rebrands consciousness as soul
That's not proof gaylord.

>> No.10523186

>>10522794
Big gay

>> No.10523474

>>10520085
>>10520760
Source:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1126157/pg1

>> No.10523499

>>10523474
>source: based schizo

>> No.10523504

>>10522367
It's the Xeelee, they managed to create a whole galaxy free from Photino Birds.