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"i want to believe" edition

>> No.10517511
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>> No.10517513

>>10517506
what is this stupid shit. goddamn /pol/tards fucking suck

>> No.10517521

also old thread here: >>10498790

>>10517513
it has potential, if nothing else as an interesting computational toy. at least i hope so personally because i do want to believe there's something cool behind it.

>> No.10517529

>>10517513
yeah, at the very least its conways game of life but instead of for biology its for physics. thats a pretty good start imo

>> No.10517553

>>10517506
its a bunch of schizo bullshit but it really is a good idea to apply the game of life to physics like interesting

and its fun to watch and look at at least

>> No.10517566

>>10517553
yeah, no coherence in the thought process behind it. Hopefully an april fools joke instead of mental illness.

>> No.10517570

>>10517566
there's a thin line between genius and schizo; its well documented

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HMMMMMMMM

>> No.10517615

>>10517570
no it's well documented that schizos tend to have a significantly lower iq than the general population, in fact because of this "high iq schizos" are an extremely rare, special subtype of schizos that hasnt been very well researched

>> No.10517630

>>10517615
he's talking about creativity and madness, which have the same psychological (possibly genetic) basis and very often causes an otherwise very intelligent person to lose their sense of reality testing and devolve into schizotypy, bipolar, or in the worst case schizophrenia. "high iq" schizos also aren't commonly reported because most of them are self-correcting but there are some who, like terry davis, will have irreversible breakdowns if they remain in bad environments and lack proper support.

>> No.10517659

also i've read that writers musicians and artists are much more susceptible to depression and schizophrenia whereas "intellectuals" in sciences and philosophy are proportionally more prone to being bipolar

>> No.10517666

>>10517630
define "very often" and although i agree with your points i don't really see the argument and that that's what he was saying; he says it's well documented that there's a thin line between genius and schizo when it's basically always the exact opposite. there's a strong stigma on here that schizos are "seeing reality as it is" and they always link that retarded rotating mask gif as proof

schizos PRE-ONSET, which are seemingly indistinguishable from anyone else, generally have a low iq. and all schizos regardless of anything will generally have a lowered iq as the illness develops.

>> No.10517681

Video is editing, but seriously. I am thinking, "fuck you guys". I have an IQ of 144 fyi and excellent test scores. Schizo? You want me to give you the unified theory of everything while you call me a schizo? GET FUCKED

>> No.10517683

FYI, this is EXACTLY why I wanted a paywall, to keep you fucking loser our of our community of innovators. Get fucked

>> No.10517689

I'm calling it off. Get fucked. 100% you faggots think that people walk on water and snakes talk and I'm the skizo. GET FUCKED

>> No.10517700

>>10517681
>>10517683
>>10517689
I like your new sign off.

>> No.10517702

I graduated with damn near a 4.0 from an excellent school, and work excellent jobs with excellent records. GET FUCKED with your BULLSHIT! I have heard it from you faggots before, you believe in FUCKING TALKING SNAKES and then you call people like me schizo who have an intelligence level that you cannot even comprehend. I'm not Jewish, but my blood is, and there is a reason why that blood dominates you faggots in business and in science, you low IQ FAGGOT FUCK!

>> No.10517711

>>10517666
shouldn't have used "very often" sorry, i just meant that it's not unlikely. yeah there's a prevailing notion that schizos are tapping into unconventional wisdom, which isn't necessarily true, but does have support in some research. looking for the article i was thinking of, i'll post it if i find it. basically states that schizos can be more unbiased in processing information due to apathy and detachment or something.

>schizos PRE-ONSET, which are seemingly indistinguishable from anyone else, generally have a low iq. and all schizos regardless of anything will generally have a lowered iq as the illness develops.
that is generally true but again highly intelligent people are self-correcting and may exhibit signs of schizophrenia. this is common in bipolar people

>>10517681
>>10517683
>>10517689
yo we're just speculating man. we don't have a lot of information to go on here. personally i think you're bipolar. you don't seem crazy but you seem like you've been going through hypomania or something.

>> No.10517712

>>10517702
if this is really you then say all that in a YT video and not anonymously.

>> No.10517720

>>10517681
>>10517683
>>10517689
>>10517702
This might be the most elaborate troll I've seen on here for quite a while (assuming all of this (and prior posts) is Gary)

>> No.10517722

>>10517666
Yes, a line between genius and schizo, meaning that geniuses often succumb, which is completely true. Notice how its not a fine line between schizo and genius. So I was correct the whole time, YEE-HAW!

>> No.10517737

That is the DUMBEST FUCKING SHIT I have ever heard. I build a fucking unified theory of everything USING MOTHER FUCKING EXCEL and I'm the one who doesn't get it??? You fucking stupid fucks

>> No.10517742

>>10517722
>>10517737
yooooooo
yo
yo
yo
we just want to see the PROOFS
thats all
WE WANT THE PROOFS

>> No.10517745

>>10517711
no disagreements here

>> No.10517753

>>10517737
you think we can see that its the actual theory of everything with a video of an excel page?

you wont give us the actual proof, the equations or anything even though you said you would by monday and now there's a paywall

like if you really believe you did unify everything then you would get the fucking nobel prize and tons of job offers and money to go along with it.. so just release the fucking proof

>> No.10517759

>>10517753
not to mention his case for Yang 2020 would gain a huge amount of legitimacy

>> No.10517778

Someone help me with matplotlib while emotions settle.

I'm trying to use matplotlib to draw specific rectangles around my grid of cells, but through stack exchange and the documentation the only methods I see to add rectangles are like:

fig = plt.figure('ghfgh')
rect = fig.patch # a rectangle instance
rect.set_facecolor('lightgoldenrodyellow')

ax1 = fig.add_axes([0.1, 0.3, 0.4, 0.4])
rect = ax1.patch
rect.set_facecolor('lightslategray')

This creates a whole new window with the rectangle on a blank graph while the desired graph:

plt.matshow(grid(n))

Displayed with this method remains without a rectangle.

If I do:
fig = plt.matshow(grid(n))

I get:
" 'rect = fig.patch # a rectangle instance'
AttributeError: 'AxesImage' object has no attribute 'patch'"

>> No.10517794

>>10517778
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40580742/adding-patches-to-numpy-array-opened-in-matplotlib any help?

>> No.10517801

>>10517778
I think you're looking for `matplotlib.patches`, which is its own thing and isn't an attribute of the axis object:

matplotlib.org/api/patches_api.html?highlight=patches#module-matplotlib.patches

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>>10517794
Been working on getting a rectangle in there for two days. You have commendable search skills.

>> No.10517841

Gary seems like a cool guy and his worldview is interesting but I feel strung along by his cool automaton like a cat chasing a laser.

>> No.10517849

>>10517816
nice, happy to see some progress pal.

>> No.10517852

>>10517841
>people are actually seriously interested

you know everyone is joking about caring about this. Just an interesting schizo thread.

>> No.10517854

>>10517852
Stop it. You'll set him off again.

>> No.10517860

>>10517852
not true

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>>10517852
this guy probably didn't even see the original thread

>> No.10517872

>>10517852

This has consumed my mind for the last couple days. Have to see how this ends. Genuinely interested

>> No.10517874

WOW. Hey, this is Gary. The guy who made the automaton posted a few days ago. I don't know who that is pretending to be me, but that's not me. I haven't been on this site in a while. Someone sent me a PM on Reddit asking if I'm okay because of the things "you are saying on 4chan" so I came here to check it out. And honestly. WOW. That's awful. But I guess that's just how anonymous sites work??Anyway, too long didn't read version: I'm being impersonated on this site and made to sound like I'm saying awful things. Other than that, this sites an interesting concept. Anyway... gotta go. Take care!

>> No.10517877

>>10517874
>no new IPs in the thread
fake gary spotted

>> No.10517883

>>10517874
Post video

>> No.10517893

>>10517874
damage control lmao

>> No.10517897

quick rundown on this?

>> No.10517899

>>10517570
God I hate dumb shits like you who spout off bullshit as fact because it sounds right in your head.

>> No.10517915

>>10517874
I thought you were Anon, anon. Who the fuck is Gary?

>> No.10517919

>>10517874
How does anyone know what "you're" saying on "4chan?"

>> No.10517930

>>10517897
>chris langan bows to gary
>in contact with cellular automata machine elves
>possesses enlightened NEET abilities
>controls physical simulations with an iron but fair fist
>owned the global academic community
>direct descendant of based ashkenazim jews
>will bankroll revolutionary research into his Optimum Theory (the big bang will be the first simulation)
>owns 100% of cellular automata which unites the four fundamental forces
>first correct simulations of the universe will in all likelihood be gary's automata
>said to have 144+ IQ, such modesty on earth has only existed deep in tibetan monestaries and mr. roger's neighborhood
>ancient judeo-christian scriptures tell of one man who will descend upon earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress
>he owns a monopoly on cosmological simulation around the world
>you likely have cellular automatons inside you right now

etc etc, you get the idea

>> No.10517948

>>10517899
Or maybe you could just search the most successful mathematicians, physicists, and novelists and find the obvious connection you dumb shit.

>> No.10517965

>>10517930
You forgot the best part:
>All of this can be yours for just $99 a month!

>> No.10517968

>>10517948
show it to us

>> No.10517972

>>10517965
but he's been saying all along you can just pay once and cancel concurrent payments

>> No.10517986

What's this about, is it about Robot girls with big asses and nice thighs?

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>>10517972
wow only 100 dollars for the unified theory of everything what a steal

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>> No.10518006

>>10517968
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_G%C3%B6del#Later_life_and_death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_van_Gogh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_van_Beethoven

I think people just don't want to believe because they fancy themselves a genius and can't handle the idea of losing their sanity or being a fraud.

>> No.10518017

>>10518006
Also you're dumb if you think somehow 'becoming a genius,' means you will develop a mental disorder. Anyways this isn't fun where is mug cellular automattatotatan

>> No.10518021

>>10518017
Near a tomato

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>>10518006
>muh confirmation bias

>> No.10518025

>>10518006
to add to this:
schopenhauer, balzac, newton (duh), gogol, dostoyevsky, tolstoy, poe, lovecraft
cant think right now or it'd be much longer
also read this, good resource
http://www.theabsolute.net/minefield/genqtpg.html

>> No.10518035

>>10518006
So, you linked 4 people that didn't have schizophrenia as your proof that there's a thin line between schizo and genius? Are you actually retarded?

All you're doing is taking talking points from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creativity_and_mental_illness
which is not at all the claim that is being made here. Sure, deluded people that aren't unconsciously forced into a certain mode of thought are suseptible to coming up with "creative thoughts".

inb4 durr i meant "schzoid" ur so retarded for misunderstanding

>> No.10518038

>still no equation
>its actually really simple guys its just NRG over space
>but it requires hours to explain

>> No.10518039

>>10518006
this is autism at peak levels, just because your a fucking nut doesn't mean you have are genuinely smart, its quite the opposite. First of all all the people you listed inherited strange habits LATER in life in their peak and these are nothing BUT strange habits idiosyncrasies. If any of these people were born with schizophrenia they would not have the ability to have done any of the work they did you do realize schizophrenia is pretty much being delusional to the extreme to the point where your in your own world, you cease to function at high cognitive levels. . Schizophrenia patients are typically found to have low IQ both pre- and post-onset, in comparison to the general population. However, a subgroup of patients displays above average IQ pre-onset. The only reason the "geniuses" you listed have had these mental breakdowns(if any) is the stress associated with their work and their terrible fucking habits, for example lets take Nikola Tesla a Insomniac mess that slept 3 hours most nights 6 on good days and has publicly stated that he dislikes sleeping long hours;this is absolutely terrible for the human body, having terrible sleep can ruin your body, cause depression, which in turns gives you a fucked up motor function so you have LESS IQ. Look at all the people you listed and EVEN MORE all of them worked themselves to a psychotic state and if they did not have a breakdown which is 90% of them then they just have weird idiosyncrasies which happens when you isolate yourself and your actually smart. None of these people had mental issues during their peaks, its after when they have existential issues and inherit a disorder like BPD. And before you tell me Einstein and Joyce's kids had schizophrenia because their parents were insane, NO, they are a small sub group of people that are doomed from birth, have to fill in shoes the size of the Australian continent. When your parent has a HIGH IQ and you come into the world your most likely to have a-high-iq,

>> No.10518053

>>10518035
Sorry Mr. time travelling doctor. Tell me again how your visits with these people went and you came to your diagnosis.

Also you should kill yourself if you think schizo isn't an overlapping NON-DIGITAL phenomenon.

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>>10518039
this is where the issue comes in, imagine being 130 iq, genius level, coming into the world as James Joyce's daughter or Einsteins son, the realization that dawns on you that you will most likely never be able to fill in your dad's shoes and no matter what you do, you'll never be on par;combine high-iq, delusional thoughts about incompetence, and immense pressure to show up, yea you get psychosis. So no just because your a schizo,autism,retard,fat fuck,sad,depressed or gay does not make you "gGENIUS 180IQ TORTUERED GENISU :)" no it does it your just low iq if anything, if you have a disorder, a issue with you psychologically or physically with your brain, your lower iq then the general population, literally no exceptions your a fucking idiot.

t.psych major

(pic related is James Joyce's daughter, Lucia Joyce; shes dressed up in a fish dress dancing around)

>> No.10518061

>>10518039
>another retard who thinks schizophrenia is "welp you have or you don't, and if you do its the most television, extreme version of it."

>> No.10518070

>>10518025
>>10518039
>>10517899

Idiots ready to denounce delusional people who think being different makes them deranged and also a genius, when the argument flowed the opposite direction. Misunderstood the argument like a fish misunderstands the dangly worm on a string.

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>>10518061
fucking idiot it clearly says you can inherit it later, and yes SCHIZOPHRENIA is VERY EXTREME and it gets worse and worse after you inherit it, you will live off meds no matter if your born with it or later inherit it. You will live fine with meds but the likelyhood that you will get another breakdown is very high.... fucking retard. Your confusing SCHIZO-AFFECTIVE with SCHIZOPHRENIA to different disorders fucking entirely, one is mental disorders such BPD PBD combined with a near psychosis and the other is being a fucking vegetable I work with these type of people everyday you fucking tard enjoy being low-iq wanna be schizo depressed boi, I hope you get your wish so you can be vegetable 4 life.

>tfw when i have to highlight the words for you, jesus

>> No.10518088

>>10518053
>Tell me again how your visits with these people went and you came to your diagnosis.
GREAT! We both agree that we can't retroactively diagnose people! So let's not start conjecture that these people had schizophrenia!

Thanks dumbfuck

>> No.10518095

>>10518073
>and yes SCHIZOPHRENIA is VERY EXTREME
holy shit you're dumb if you believe the disease isn't on a spectrum, obv the people you work with won't need to be diagnosed. I won't even bother correcting every misrepresentation you made since it will obviously just multiply when you try again.

>> No.10518099

>>10518088
imagine thinking godel wasn't a bonified shizoid. imagine thinking those people and genuises throughout time haven't obviously had a high rate of insanity. I imagine you would have to appeal to muh 'well we just can't know.'

>> No.10518105

oh dear

>> No.10518106

>>10518105
gary what have you done

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>>10518106
i-i just wanted to give him another thread because we seemed to be making headway in the last one

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>>10518099
>imagine thinking godel wasn't a bonified shizoid
>I imagine you would have to appeal to muh 'well we just can't know.'
>Tell me again how your visits with these people went and you came to your diagnosis.
Imagine contradicting yourself this hard and not giving any arguments

>imagine thinking those people and genuises throughout time haven't obviously had a high rate of insanity

>imagine thinking that what im typing right now is an argument because i started it with imagine thinking

>> No.10518113

>>10518099

Can we move back to what God gathered us here for on such a holy day as this. We have lost our purpose

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>>10518110
>sci & math
>starting a thread about a retarded schizoid scamartist
>thinking its not going to start arguments

>> No.10518119

>>10518099
>imagine thinking godel wasn't a bonified shizoid
how retarded do you have to be to actually think having a paranoid fear = schizophrenia?

>> No.10518125

>>10518099
im not either of those guys but
>inb4 durr i meant "schzoid" ur so retarded for misunderstanding

I'm glad you proved me right.

>muh i meant schizoid not schizo sorry guys
you realize basically everyone had scizoid personality traits? moreover, that "schizoid personality disorder" isn't schizophrenia?

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>>10518095
>i like to pretend im insane so I can call myself high iq but in reality i have clinical depression and insomnia that makes me have retard motor function so my attention span is 0 and my enthusiasm to do anything is none, I rather go on internet fourms and argue im a genius because a small portion of geniuses have small idiosyncrasies and disorders making me a genius!11!!!!!!1!

>inb4 you know everything about schizo people silly goose! I know more about you from my Wikipedia readings and it says smart people = insane when in actuality the percentage of smart folk that have disorder is just the same as the percentage of people with disorders in world as a whole!
>inb4 schizophrenia is extreme, lol your dumb you have no idea what your talking about, what is schiz-affective? schizophrenia is on a spectrum!

Retard, schizophrenia isent the fucking gender spectrum stop claiming you have disease for attention you look like tumbler whores choosing different genders to be unique; get your autistic retarded sjw logic out of this fucking forum

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>>10518095
> if you believe the disease isn't on a spectrum
ok last reply cause your obviously disabled( in the non genius way).

Look at the chart, schizophrenia is not on a spectrum you either have it or you don't and there are literally no people that are "lesser schizophrenic" no such thing, you either have it or you don't and their are a multitude of schizophrenic variations that differ in the delusions presented, the people that could be a "lesser case" are people just entering psychosis slowly gaining more and more symptoms or people that inherited it not from birth but through other means and went to rehab for recovery(but even those people have a high likely hood of psychosis again later).

Anyways I can't argue with delusional people like yourself.

>P.S. you look like a fucking twat when you are using a real disorder to justify your autism, people actually suffer from this and here you are demeaning them and everywhere, you should be ashamed.

>> No.10518190

I just want the fucking equation

What the fuck is it

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For a science board you guys make a lot of psychological assesments on other posters. If you are just comparing your observed states and self state to others here then what sort of science are you doing except categorizing your dismissal?

>> No.10518193

>>10517737
Talk all the shit you want, but if you want anyone to take you seriously post code

If what you post is genuine and comes anywhere near in doing what you claim it does tons of people would be willing to pay you for a chance to suck your dick.

Just post it bro

>> No.10518198

>>10517737
Because you could just have made some pretty patterns in excel and actually just seeing who will pay you for it

>> No.10518202

>>10517874
Only way to prove you are Gary is to post the rule.

>> No.10518206

>>10518147

> stop claiming you have disease for attention you look like tumbler whores choosing different genders to be unique

I literally made that argument but if you need strawmen haha okay. I'd love to see you paper on the exact moment schizophrenia pops into someones brain you fucking idiot. All developmental disease is on a spectrum.

>> No.10518212

>>10518163
Holy shit are you the most milk paste thinker there is. You realize that there are precursors to these diseases varying in strength meaning that before you 'officially' have it you have varying degrees of it. For someone so full of insults you are the most in the box dumbfuck thinker there is, please don't reply.

>> No.10518216

Guys lets just reverse engineer it

If he figured it out and is so autistic then we probably can figure it out together in one night.

I doubt it actually has anything to do with reality, but it still does look like an interesting system to play with

>> No.10518217

>>10518216
okay, well maybe this paper is a start
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/mpe/2014/714267/

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>>10518212
Implying I did not say there a are precursors when I obviously said there are precursors such as the very milquetoast disorders such as BPD and PPD... which are caused directly through anxiety and stress at early ages. Read the previous post before replying and looking completely misinformed.

>> No.10518230

>>10518217
What
Why
What does this have to do with Garys CA other than that it is CA? Like fuck nigga i fuck with this shit daily. Making one is easy

Question is whats the rule


We know it has 10 layers. Some contain vector fields, Im guessing these may modulate space. And of course others contain energy. So at least 2 layers are known and in some way im guessing are related to the energy/space thing

>> No.10518232

>>10518230
the crowd control model simulates pressure density and shortest paths followed by particles, you can ignore the coefficients for the ramp thing. i have no idea how to synthesize the layers or anything though.

>> No.10518237

>>10518163
this but unironically

having schizoid traits doesnt make you a schizo clinically although at a certain (perhaps not abrupt yet still well-defined) point you immediately become considered a schizo, and some people can be "more schizo than others" after this cut-off point but that still doesn't make people who have a handful of schizo traits schizo

>> No.10518239

>>10518232
OK I see what you mean but still thats not hard to come up with from scratch.

Unless im not only nonbrainlet here, we should be able to find the way that is the way that it should be for that is what it should be

>> No.10518240

You guys should talk about autistic savants now.

How can your brain work well enough to make an A+ in integral calculus (not saying it makes you a genius, but not everyone can do it), yet at the same time be unable to talk to your classmate and form a study group?

>> No.10518249

>>10518190
>I just want the fucking equation
>What the fuck is it

[math]diversity = our strength[/math]

#YellowIsTheNewOrange #yanggang2020

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Did Gary get carted off by glowies?

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>>10518163
lol funny thing I had something pertaining to schizophrenia during a really stressful time in my life, it was not schizophrenia exactly but something along BPD.DD, and PPD, ill make a little green text about it
>be in a really stressful situation and overall feeling like shit but can't ask family for help for they would make it worse and make me feel like shit for it.
>start sleeping less
>barely sleep at all(falling asleep at 3am- to wake up up at 6am being half-awake half-asleep napping unhealthy during the day)
>start seeing distortions in the walls maybe you can even call them figures at night
>One day I find a stray dog near my dorm and decide against the rules to bring him in
>I tell my roommate about the dog and he has no qualms about it but looks at me like a fucking nut
>End up seeing figures at night and try to talk to them, they tell me I should worry about my friends their not trust worthy
>Start hearing people having conversation in them middle of the night in my dorm talking over each other and wont stfu no matter if I put pillows over my head or sleep with headphones in
>Doggo is my only friend now
>Campus counselor comes in with my roommate and a few friends(two)
>she says she wants to talk to me about the problems im having
>tell her im having issues sleeping and im hearing things(I'm really fucking stressed at this point because i'm worried about going insane and now I might be sent away because im confessing these things but it has to be done)
>She says she wants to see my dog I try and show her the little fucker hiding in my closet but she says
>"Anon there is nothing there, we can't see your dog; are you ok? Are you sure theres a dog there?"
>What?No way?Doggo?Wheres doggo? WHERE IS HE?
>doggo was never there my only friend just a delusion
>queue mental breakdown
>get help pause my studies
>come back better than ever after couple months sleep well and get my same roommate back and he actually greets me with a smile
lifeisgudnow

>> No.10518288

>>10518279
Whas the deal with the dog? Was there really no dog? How would you hallucinate to that degree and not catch it as a hallucination?

>> No.10518293

>>10518279
god bless imaginary doggo

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This whole shindig screams of a scam. Nevertheless, I want to believe, and will give him the benefit.
Its weird though, how pseudo-religiosity seems to be a reoccurring theme within these isolated scientists. I wonder if it is a coping mechanism, or a necessary prerequisite. The vibe I'm getting is that this dude thinks his quasi-religion is his biggest work, and not his automata. I suspect his attempt to manufacture a church is a defensive strategy to prevent outside capitalistic and established academic forces from coopting his work and giving fuck all about the delusions that he needed to make up in order to manufacture the automata. #ScientificAppropriations

>> No.10518324

>>10517553
so is this where i ask if im satan because when i was cleaning up some ferrite beads i got out of a old computer i smell like flint. like fuck with a lighter and grind some but dont spark it. do it nice and slow for daddy. yea just like that. then spark it. that smell. all i did was take the copper wire off and i just unraveled it i wasnt taking that shit to a bench grinder or anything. same happens when i play with magnets for a while


so is this the place?

>> No.10518340 [DELETED] 

>>10518317
try LSD and you'll see why.

I have taken up 3 main interests since taking LSD:
Philosophy
Theology
Cellular automata

Seriously.

I'm pretty sure Mr Gary fagfuck is a scammer, but the base ideology he's on, I think is correct.
Doubtful his automata has anything to do with physics, but I'm curious to take a look at it because it does show a number of interesting characteristics that at a minimum would be really fun to play with while stoned lel

>> No.10518360

>>10517615
They should come here to study high IQ schizos.

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>tfw gary hasn't made any updates

guess its waiting till tomorrow then

>> No.10518377

>>10518293
He never lets you down

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We don't need Gary.

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>>10518382
>this fucking thread
sooo what do you have there jerry? mind if i take a peek?

>> No.10518437

>>10518389
I think Im close to figuring out his bullshit

And its hilarious desu my theory so far is that he has absolutely nothing special and just layered known cellular automata on top of eachother

Scam confirmation pending

>> No.10518456

>>10517506
The dude is getting paid $1000 per month to act schizo and shill yang.

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>>10518437
>>10518382
Really makes think

>> No.10518517

I can't find his patreon page. What gives?

>> No.10518540

>>10518517
He saw that Jerry is coming for him

>> No.10518544 [DELETED] 

>>10518382
>>10518382
http://www.excelunusual.com/

>> No.10518597

>>10517990
Cheaper than a scientific journal.

>> No.10518601

>>10518025
>newton (duh)
Newton wasn't schizo, though he might have been an autist.

>> No.10518674

>>10518437
>>10518493
man i slept for 4 hours and i wake up to this, thank you for reminding me why i love 4chan

>> No.10518677

>>10518601
yeah i wasn't posting to support the schizo argument just the more general argument surrounding creativity and mental illness which of course everyone ignored in favor of schizoposting

>> No.10518683

>>10518677
Because your original claim was that there’s a thin line between schizo and genius dumbass, not
>durr mentally ill people are creative
which the guy you were arguing against openly agreed with. You were in fact the autist moving the flagpole as hard as possible which eventually resulted in you using “schizoid” over schizo

>> No.10518686

>>10518683
no no that wasn't me, i settled my point with another guy within the first like 20 posts. i had nothing to do with the shitshow that erupted afterwards

>> No.10518700

>>10518686
gotchya

Godspeed then

>> No.10519246

>>10518025
haha "balzac" lol

>> No.10519379

This is the most retarded thread on /sci/ right now and that's saying something.

>> No.10519389

>>10517737
reply to this with the universe equation or your mother will die in her sleep

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>>10517511
>#YangGang2020
I love how the based yangbro who made this just put that is just in there randomly.

>> No.10519561

>>10519559
He didn't do that because he's a yang bro, he did that because the creator of optimum theory is a huge supporter of him

>> No.10519598

>>10519561
Ok, but the fact that he put it in there paints it implicitly as a good quality, so it's subtly funny regardless.

>> No.10519784

>>10518025
Actually I kind of understand where Gary was coming from. You are basically just labeling anyone schizo who made discoveries that contradicted your definition of the Bible. You claim that Newton was a schizo? I had to look that up, and this is what it said, “But in his 50s, Newton entered a manic phase that led him to London, where he worked with the government, served as the president of the Royal Society and was eventually knighted". Think objectively about that. You are calling someone a schizo for being knighted by the Queen. In other domains we would call that... um, being successful and well regarded. No wonder Gary wants a wall that he can kick people like you out of.

>> No.10519795

>>10518317
>pseudo-religiosity seems to be a reoccurring theme within these isolated scientists
I think this is mainly a sign of high complexity of though. These people are capable of proposing new paradigms, thus they are also able to synthesize science and religion into one coherent (albeit very personal) paradigm. Religion often helps tormented and lonely people. Not everybody got the brilliance to integrate them cleanly.

>> No.10519809

>>10518099 People like you basically just label anyone a schizo who make significant discoveries that contradict your version of fundamentalist religion.

>> No.10519836

>>10518317
There is no way to understand how the automaton works without breaching the walls that religion has put around thought. I am not saying I'm Gary, but Gary's pseudo-religiosity is likely a prerequisite, exactly like you said. If the automaton is true, then the conclusions that we can draw from it are very radical to established thought - even the established thought of those we typically think of as representing the established sciences. Think of the shit that was thrown at Darwin, Aristotle, Galileo. Now imagine the shit that would be thrown at a model of reality that not only answers the origin and function of all reality, but also the origin of life, consciousness, and can be used to reverse engineer any natural process no matter how large or small.

>> No.10519840

>>10518382
That might be it. I would have to know the assertions you made to know for sure. Also, I would like to see it in motion. -Gary

>> No.10519845

>>10518437
If all you did was layer known automaton on top of each other then that aint it, senpai. -Gary

>> No.10519849

>>10519559
Gary is a YangGang Bro. That's why it's there. I know. Am Gary

>> No.10519859

>>10519795
This guy fucks. The Bible has a lot of brilliance in it. Too often, scientists throw the baby out with the bath water. Furthermore, it is stupid that a we cannot discuss those ideas calmly and rationally. What Gary is trying to do, I believe, is open a door to calm, respectful and rational discussion of religious texts, similar to how Dr. Peterson does. Harvard has a divinity school for example. Lots of brilliant people were raised in fundamentalism through no choice of their own. It is a strategic error to close the door on those people. Much better to leave the door open to interpreting the wisdom of the ancients through new eyes.

>> No.10519875

>>10519795
Furthermore, I don't know if anyone on this board has ever been in a position of leadership, but it is extremely helpful to understand the perspectives of these faith systems. Integration is our only path forward as a unified species. And unity will be required for the challenges ahead.

>> No.10519883

A lot of science mind people will say something like, "I don't need a rule system, because I kill as many people as I want, which is zero!" Penn said something to that effect, and I'm a huge fan of his, but when you are in leadership positions you cannot have that attitude. I know from experience. If you tell everyone to "follow their heart" don't be surprised if you find out that some people under your care have actual evil in their hearts that would lead them to murder, etc... if they were given the chance.

>> No.10519913

>>10518437
If you figure it out, then by all means explain how it works :-) Explaining how it works only strengths the case that it is exactly what I said it was. -Gary

>> No.10519916

>>10518437
But if you didn't really figure out how it works, and whatever you made is not based on the same assumptions such as U = E / S, etc... then also don't be surprised if I call you out on it. -G

>> No.10519917

He's never releasing the source code I officially give up.

>> No.10519918

>>10519917
I am making a website where I will release the source code. $99 will be total price to enter - not monthly. Which is less than an academic journal or textbook, and people who can help advance the model will get in free.

>> No.10519922

>>10519917
Patreon was a poor choice to do this. Website was always the plan.

>> No.10520035

>>10519916
>>10519913
Just tell me the actual equation

Saying its U = E/S and then having ten layers is like saying neural networks are just forwarding inputs to the next neuron. Sure thats a true aspect, but the real value is in backpropogation.

When I do straight up energy/space like you say, well that is just an averaging kernel, nothing special about that.

>> No.10520046

>>10519918

I get journals for free through my university though, and you get a lot more in a journal than one paper.

>> No.10520098

>he eventually releases the source code
>perfectly simulates the entire universe with a simple formula
>nothing left to explore in physics
>nothing to exploit for faster that light travel or any other sci-fi stuff
>chemistry, biology, and medicine problems can just be simulated with powerful computers
>math that doesn't apply to the specifics of the model or the macro-behavior is labeled un-useful and discarded
>/sci/ is deleted
i can only dream

>> No.10520113

>>10519859
>>10519875
>>10519883

Very interesting. I see this new attitude gaining traction, and I feel very positive about it.

Many people see Jordan Peterson as a dangerous polarizing right wing demagogue, but I feel that his project is largely about bringing all kinds of people together. To calm the culture war between science and religion, men and women, rich and poor etc.

Most people have an innate inner moral voice, but it tends to speak low. We need some device to turn up the volume. Religion harnesses the power of metaphor, archetypes, narratives, symbols and imagery to reach deep into the hearts of as many as possible. If the message is positive, it is a powerful method of ensuring that people keep their eyes on the price. Formal etichal systems in philosophy cannot even begin to compete with religions power to engage the general population.

>> No.10520128

>>10520113
>new attitude
Correction. It isn't new.

>> No.10520133

>>10520035
If your averaging kernel can reproduce the results of my automaton, then I would be interested in seeing it. -G

>> No.10520137

>>10520098
If you understand this, then you can understand why some people in the sciences are actively opposing a UTOE. Ex. They are trying to get funding for a new 21 billion Euro collider. Why spend that kind of money on a new collider when you can just simulate the results using a perfect equation?

>> No.10520141

>>10520133
>Gary wants to see how an automaton works
The irony

>> No.10520151

>So simple, just energy over space.

>> No.10520162

>>10520035
However, you are correct in thinking that unified physics is "just" an "averaging kernel" ;-) Start there and then take that logic as far, deep and pure as you can. And that's the answer to how this particular simulation we call Life, the Universe & Everything actually works. -G

>> No.10520169

It's kind of funny, because when people usually use words like "far, deep and pure" they mean metaphorically. But here I mean this quite literally. -G

>> No.10520176

If you didn't catch that it was sexual advice. Take your penis far and deep or take another man's penis far and deep and the reality of the universe will makes itself apparent. That should be all you need to know to recreate my automaton. -G

>> No.10520186

>>10520141
Yes, but I only want to see because he's on the right track. He (or she) is right that the key is averages. I want to see if he figured out the rest of it. People are mistaken that I am putting a wall around the theory because I'm "greedy". No, it's to keep people with bad intentions out. That's how you build a strong community that accomplishes amazing things. And frankly, I will let people into the community for free if they can help advance the model. If someone is able to reproduce this simulation then it speaks well for their general perspective on life, and that's great! We need more people like that in the world!

>> No.10520188

>>10520176
LOL! Exactly proving why my community needs a wall. I'll probably bounce soon.

>> No.10520193

Yeah I think that was my key to bounces. Lates!

>> No.10520204
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10520204

My god guys how long before Gary is locked away in a CIA prison and we can't see any more of his amazing Excel spreadsheets?

>> No.10520207

>>10520188
You're just prolonging the attention you're getting because deep down you are worried that once people get their hands on it it won't be all its chalked up to be. I'm sure your criteria for 'people that can advance the theory,' will be less focused on technical requirements and more on who will feed your ego the best.

The truth is after all the bullshit you put your only interested group of people through they are eager to separate the person from the theory as soon as possible.

>> No.10520218

>>10520133
>>10520162
Gary doesn't know how to quote people and was calling us fags (which is mostly true but rudely presumptuous) a few hours ago, you're not Gary

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>>10520204
When I was at Exide, I made some spreadsheets. I thought thet had PROD data in them, but that was only QA data. My coworkers at Exide initially lied to me stating, "We don't have DEV, QA, and PROD. We only have DEV and PROD." DEV was in SQL 2012 and "PROD" was in SQL 2008. After a few months, I found out about the instance of SQL 2005. That was the real PROD, and they were only telling me that QA was PROD. I didn't find out until after I made the spreadsheets.

After I made those spreadsheets, agent Di Pierro showed up looking greately displeased. The other guy, the one with the red and black belt told me the day before di Pierro came, "Man... if you do that a couple more times..." I thought he was complimenting me at the time saying, "You only need to do it a few more times to do the thing you're trying to do," but now I wonder if he meant, "If you do that a few more times all your friends will get killed."

I wonder if Chief Justice John Roberts at times impersonated my boss at Exide, one Rod Williams. That's Rodney Williams, don't get him confused with Rodelene Williams who is another Rod Williams that they can tell you about any time any asks for info on Rod Williams.

>> No.10520278

>>10520133
No, it doesn't

And why would I reveal my equation to you when you wont reveal yours to me?

Anyways the average kernel im saying is basically Cell=(self/4)+(neighbors/4)

Im taking a look at how abelian sandpiles relate though because the "fractal" patterns you show seem very similar, and abelian sandpiles already are sort of a form of energy/space

>> No.10520469

>>10520137
The new collider is to test the edge cases made by simulations and theories. If simulations says to expect x and we replicate the event and get x, then that supports the simulation/theory down to unprecidented precision. In the real world some random guy can't just say "I know a thing" without any proof. Surely your ultimate simulation of everything could tell you what path you need to take to get this new information as wide spread as possible. If there was a way to convince people to believe you, surely your perfect equation would reveal it.

>> No.10520488

>>10518437
>gary replies 3 times to your post
>>10519845
>>10519913
>>10519916
lmaoo you're getting closer anon keep going

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heh now I got stuck playing with abelian sandpiles
they're fun

>> No.10520614

>>10520603
post more gifs that are longer pls

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>>10520614

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>>10520633

>> No.10520652

>>10520637
Nice. I wonder if Gary's excel sheet could simulate the intrigue I feel watching these.

>> No.10520686

>>10520603
>>10520633
>>10520637
neat developments

>> No.10520770

>>10520469
One of the most respected physicists in the world and one of the most respected mathematicians in the world have both reached out to me already. You would recognize their names. Btw, this is all based only one the one video I posted to r/cellular_automata. We're just getting warmed up, senpai. -G

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>>10520770

>> No.10520788

>>10520777
It's 100% true.

>> No.10520791

>>10520777
Why would this even be hard to believe? It was one of the most upvoted posts on r/cellular_automaton, ever and you all are still talking about it, what, has it been around a week now?

>> No.10520799

>>10520791
were fascinated by autism and your fitting right in gary. btw that sub has like 200 subscribers nobody does anything worth intelluctually on reddit, also you made your acc like a week ago...

>> No.10520877

>>10520770


Popsci physicists don't count.

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>>10517854
Gary should really start a Discord community to collect talented and enlightened individuals ready to enhance his discovery.

>> No.10520899

>>10520770
I don't believe you

why won't you just give me the fucking equation

Guess what that abelian sandpile gifs I posted?
the equation is as follows in pseudocode:

if cell energy > 4, reset cell energy to 0.
cell = self+neighbors

See its called fucking releasing the fucking rule you fucking fuck fuck

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>>10520770
>>10520488
>>10520186
>>10520169
>>10520162
>>10520137
>>10520133
>>10519916
>>10519913
>>10519849
>>10519845
>>10519840
>>10519836

>> No.10520922

>>10520919
Better share quick Gary you about to get scooped.

>> No.10520923

>>10520919
welp those look like photons alright

>> No.10520936

>>10520877
These two are not even remotely pop science. I don't want to say who because it might scare them away somehow, but trust me. They are impressive as fuck. If you know anything about automata then you can probably guess one, and if you know anything about physics and who thinks a new collider is a dumb as I do, then you can probably guess the other.

>> No.10520938

>>10520891
That might not be a bad idea. I have never actually been on Discord. I'll check it out. -G

>> No.10520941

>>10520899
I have already released the rule. It's E / S. No one wants to believe me that it's that simple. EXPLAINING the rule is the tricky part. Take around an hour to explain why the rule works, and how it works. -G

>> No.10520945

>>10520941
If its e/s WHY DOES IT HAVE TEN LAYERS

WHY TEN AND NOT SEVEN OR A HUNDRED OR TWO WTF MAN

Gary is a bitch whos too scared to explain his shit

If you have to explain it, then you haven't released anything of value yet.

>> No.10520948

>>10520941
Please refer to this gif, it contains a vital message for you
>>10520919

>> No.10520950

>>10520919
Dope! You are getting there! -G

>> No.10520951

>>10520919
"Fuck Gary"!!! LMFAO!

-G

>> No.10520957

>>10520945
I already explained why it has so many layers,. The layers just help us make sense of the data It's like asking "if a computer program is only 1s and 0s then why does it have an graphical interface?" =G

>> No.10520962

>>10520936
Hmm. Is it Stephen Wolfram and Eric Weinstein?

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>>10520941
This is the dumbest shit. Release the rule or not, saying that it has a basic principle and pretending that that is enough is the cringiest, most pretentious behavior which both dodges the question and rubs your ego.

>I have invented a method to find functions which describe the slopes of curves of other functions, here are some results.

>How did you obtain these results?

>Simple, rise over run.

>> No.10520971

>>10520923
Yep. The Unified equation sim looks exactly like that new video from the slow mo guys where they film photons at a trillion frames per second. Depends what layer you look at it through. Looks like this guy MIGHT have figured out the photon layer. I wonder if he has figured out the other layers as well.

>> No.10520975

Of course he (or she) would only be the second person to unify physics... but still a great accomplishment! Still history book worthy! -G

>> No.10520976

>>10520957
OK

A computer program has a graphical interface ( even CLI) because 1s and 0s on their own are useless and meaningless

>> No.10520982

>>10520971
>>10520950
Bahahaagahagsgwgw

Its just a fucking wave equation you tard
I literally havent shown one unique thing here

That should tell you something, that I get this sort of response when I've just shown some gifs of well understood phenomena

>> No.10520986

>>10520976
But they are not useless and meaningless, just not understandable to meatbags like ourselves. Anyway, here is a new video I just upload that will make Optimum Theory easier to understand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI4-t-_N8qQ

>> No.10520991

>>10520982
Which is exactly why I prefaced by saying that you MIGHT have figured it out.

>> No.10520992

>>10520986
FUCK you gary
Give me the rule

Do you want to be famous as a greedy conman cunt or the man who saved the world?

>> No.10520995

>>10520982
Waves are just one aspect of the unfied simulation. Show me particles that attract each other now, and show me waves radiating from those particles.

>> No.10520998

>>10520992

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI4-t-_N8qQ

This video might help. I just uploaded it

>> No.10521000

>>10520986
Priorities so backwards. You can't sell philosophy on the promise of a theory you are too scared to release.

>> No.10521004

>>10520998
Im not sitting through your biblical bullshit. Tell me the math.

>>10520995
THOSE ARE ADDITIONAL RULES YOU FUCKING DOLT THAT IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO ENERGY OVER SPACE. THE WAVE EQUATION ISNT EVEN ENERGY OVER SPACE

GIVE
ME
THE
FUCKING
RULE

>> No.10521005

>>10517506
Terry actually created something special and was the greatest programmer ever to live so he could release his code without worry

Gary is just a dumb conman that made a neat program and knows once he releases his code nobody will care anymore

>> No.10521014

>>10521004
The wave equation is not energy over space because it is not based enough. You must be optimum-pilled to understand this, senpai. Like the meme says

>> No.10521017

>>10521005
What kind of Goofus and Gallant ass horseshit is that?

>> No.10521019

>>10521017
The Truth.

Gary could never hope to be as based as Terry. He isnt as crazy as Terry and instead is just a shitwad waste of time.

>> No.10521021

i believe there is a hint of 4d chess happening here
monitoring bread as intently as ever

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>>10520998
ill watch it, like I eat bread sticks before the meal.

>> No.10521036

>>10521004
I feel like I have already explained this a million times. Getting this theory accepted, and therefore bettering our species, is not as simple as releasing it. Look at what happened when fake-Gary thought about releasing the equation, immediately people were already calling him a schizo before they even looked at the equation, THEY PREEMPTIVELY DISMISSED IT!!! And yet 100% they would have scurried back to their little cults and shared it, so that they could hurt us with it. The world we live in is extraordinarily complex, and would take me a very long time to explain. But simply: releasing the code willy nilly would probably do more harm than good to our species because it would give power to unworthy, and frankly evil, people. Not necessarily you - I am sure you are one of the good ones. Not some much others. -FakeFakeGary

>> No.10521037

At least monkey ass eating Langan released his Ctmu. This faggot keeps it hidden up his ass, unless u throw money so he gives it up like an olympic stipper

>> No.10521040

>>10521028
No shit, senpai. Maybe now you can understand one of my objectives here. -FakeGary

>> No.10521044

>>10521036
>as long as I hold this fake bullshit to myself I still have this fabricated power in my hands
it’s like a more retarded version of gollum

>> No.10521049

>>10521036
Fine then email it to me at jerryjerrrrry@tfwno.gf

The truth stands on its own. Whatever bad things happen that result from the spread of truth is fundamentally the best case scenario. It may seem better at first, but every single minute you delay releasing the rules for it, the entire space of potential negative events of evil people getting ahold of it, are entirely outweighed by the moral weight of the continuation of things as they are.

You should know this, its encoded in the Bible.

>> No.10521060

>>10521049
"The truth stands on its own" Oh God I wish that were the case. I live in a nation where the majority reject evolution and an old-Earth, and antivaccers, climate deniers, flat earthers etc... are creeping up behind them. We legit appear to be careening with a new dark ages. The right is trying to dismantle the sciences and the left has made it their new mission to dismantle technology. Future is not look bright, and I don't trust any of these fucks. -FakeGary

>> No.10521072

>>10521060
I guess you don't understand it. Think about it awhile longer.

Its all part of Gods plan, its necessary.

Faith is the key. You have to have faith that the truth stands on its own or you only serve to add to the decline. Even if someday you become a sort of savior, your past, now current self, will be guilty.

I bet you lie routinely and consider it no big deal if you have that little faith in truth.

>> No.10521073

But how do magnets work?

>> No.10521076

Im going to sleep.

I hope I wake up to this thread with an equation in it or at the very least it available to me via email. If you email it to me I will not share it without your permission. Maybe I can help you with PR.

Dont even give me additional context if you dont want to, just the actual rules themselves, whatever you entered for each cell to calculate itself as

Ok ninight

>> No.10521079

>>10521072
Did you even watch the new video are you making assumptions and strawmen? Hmm

>> No.10521080

>>10521073
Yes, Optimum Theory explains magnetism. It's easy to understand and the logic is jaw-droppingly simple.

>> No.10521087

>>10521080
Okay great! But how do bumblebees fly?

>> No.10521088

>>10520998
miring those deltoids

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> This entire thread


>>10518317
Is that quillbot?

>> No.10521102

>>10521049
Good at PR? Get me an interview with Joe Rogan. I will explain unified physics live on Joe Rogan. I can tell a few people ahead of time just to prove that this is legit first

>> No.10521155

>>10517681
>>10517683
>>10517689
>>10517702
>>10517737
>Come to 4chan
>Claims to have 140IQ
>Is instantly salty at the first mention of a bad word
If you are the real guy, then just relax dude. 4chan is full of smart people pretending to be retarded, they're doing it because they think it's funny. If you're not, then nice b8 I guess

>> No.10521165

>>10521087
Converging momentum with earths movement.

>> No.10521176

>>10521087
The speed of their wing flaps creates a pocket of low pressure above the bee (which draws the bee upwards).

>> No.10521192

>>10521165
>>10521176
I see, I see, though I'm not sure what does that have to do with Optimum Theory. Can it explain which is heavier, a kilogram of steel or a kilogram of feathers?

>> No.10521193

>>10521155
You say this like brilliant people don't get locked up, and even killed, all the time through the lense of history by false accusations like, "heretics" "witch" "schizo" "commie" etc... Just ealier tonight I was reading about the Cardinal who locked up Galileo, that Cardinal also had another scientist burned at the stake for saying that more planets exist than just Earth. Just what became of that Cardinal? He was made into a Saint in 1930, and now he has colleges named after him. Here's something else, all the while this Cardinal was burning scientists alive he was stealing their research and it was being used by the Church.

>> No.10521195

>>10521155
Here, read all about this winner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bellarmine

>> No.10521243

I made a new video showing my unfied equation modeling gravity and light because I was bored

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3aVo3O_rnc&feature=youtu.be

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>> No.10521285

>>10518288
If dog did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him.

>> No.10521311

>>10521243
Ill do a twitch live stream with you, that good enough for you?

>> No.10521318 [DELETED] 

the faggot is now hlding it ransom to get on joe rogan podcast and get famous.

this is the biggest scam this board has fallen for.
>he also claims his theory is biblical
cultfag confirmed

>> No.10521320

the faggot is now hoding it ransom to get on joe rogan podcast and get famous.

this is the biggest scam this board has fallen for.
>he also claims his theory is biblical
cultfag confirmed

don't forget the 200 page "paper" was supposed to come out this monday and he wanted people to just give him 100$ a month

>> No.10521323

>he says he's trying to patent a 3D spreadsheet
AAHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

YOU FUCKING BRAINLET JUST MAKE THAT SHIT RUN ON A GPU IN A PROPER PROGRAM

>> No.10521325

>>10521318
Idk Joe rogan thing would mean hes exposed if its a scam. But really he just needs to write a fucking paper and publish it.

YOULL GET UR FUCKING JOE ROGAN PODCAST AFTER YOU PUBLISH YOUR PAPER DIPSHIT

>> No.10521329

>>10521325
nah he will waste time being vague on joe rogan's podcast and then he will have a bigger crowd of people to get to his website and pay him and get into the cult.

>> No.10521336

>>10520204
he hasn't made anything special. the only place he'll end up is the loony bin or jail if he goes through with his scam and cult.

>> No.10521360

Anyone in this thread emits a faint luminosity in absence of light?

>> No.10521364

>2 threads about Optimum Theory
>hundreds of posts
>days of discussion
>nobody knows what it actually is
>only person on earth who knows what it is is trying to use it to form a cult

>> No.10521370

>>10521364
read the thread. it's just known cellular automatons layered on top of each other. it's literally nothing special.

>> No.10521402

>>10521370
>cellular automatons
Yes, but whats the equation to the algorithm is it running, thats the question.
If it just a bunch of different functions each vid or is it really just one.
I want to belive

>> No.10521404

>>10521402
just look up existing ones, pick a couple and overlay them on top of each other.

>> No.10521429

GarryXJerry2020

>> No.10521431

>>10521285
maybe anon was in need/wanted (of) a doggo friend and he just created one manipulating his reality. truly a powerful ability

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10521448

>I have a patent coming on a 3 dimensional spread sheet

He's lost it.

>> No.10521477

We are impatient. just give us a link, a date, and a price.
all we have now is a couple videos and e/s

>> No.10521612

>>10521259
Gay

>>10521193
Have you ever considered getting burned at the stake is the right thing to do? Self sacrifice is the heart of morality.

If everything is about you, you ARE NOT moral.

>>10521102
Really gay


Nothing in my inbox

Evertyone stop giving him attention. Hes just trying to come up with a scam.
Its not even very well done, I think he is crazy and half knows exactly what he's doing and half believes it and thinks he might be the Messiah or something super self centered like that.
he's a waste of everyones time here

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>> No.10521634

I suck big cocks. Watch my videos for $100 a copy! -G

>> No.10521687

>>10521634
Yea basically

If he had anything at all for real, hed release more as a teaser to at least prove he isnt talking out his ass.

He hasnt done that, and so the only reasonable conclusion is that he's full of shit.

Lol
>hurr durr I cant give it for free because evil people will do bad with it
>surely evil people wouldnt spend $99 to get their hands on a UTOE, that will definitely stop them!

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>he actually demands money

Confirmed scammer. If I invented a ToE, I would be enthusiastic to share it with the world, not pimping it for $100 like a cheap whore.

>> No.10521726

Gary might be fraud, but do you think that cellular automatons are the way to go with a UTOE? Watching his latest video where he praises Veritasium, I realize this idea seems to be perfectly taylored to a certain type of popsci enthusiast. Gary says he was the first one to see how light propagates, even before the Slow Mo Guys released their video last week, but it was actually done 7 years ago by MIT (see video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtsXgODHMWk

>> No.10521744

>>10521714
inventing the first smart speaker dident reel in alot of money for gary

>> No.10521867
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10521867

I have no idea what's going on here, gimme the quick rundown

>> No.10521899

>>10521867
>Gary claims to have come up with the theory of everything in Microsoft Excel
>(likely) shilled his own popsci YT channel until /sci/ showed some interest
>announced his plans to form a learning institute for kids who cant read good and wanna learn to do other stuff good too
>announces his plans to use Excel spreadsheet to unite God and Science
>very likely a fraud with nothing more than a neat cellular automota
>/sci/ is trying to reverse engineer the same cellular automota that Gary is trying to sell

>> No.10522042

>>10521726
That cellular automatons is all you need is exactly what popsci basedboys without much math knowledge wants to hear. I did a transcript from the first video on Garys channel

https://youtu.be/8zTPhu-13wU?t=563

> With each passing year the truth becomes more evident. Mathematics in the classical sense is sequential numbers and symbols on a blackboard. Its not enough to speak the language of our universe. Although classical mathematics is extraordinarily useful, there was a missing element. But how could that be? To understand we need to think deeply about what language, numbers or words actually is. Consider how I am speaking to you now. I am speaking letter by letter, word by word. I am speaking sequentially. Consider a simple math equation, 1+2+3+4=10. To solve we add each number, each distinct unit sequentially until we reach our answer. Most computers are sequential too. Although it seems like computers do a lot of things at once, most are actually just doing one thing at a time very fast. But the universe ... the universe is not sequential. The universe does not do one thing at a time, it does an infinite number of things at a time. So to progress our unified theory of everything we need a nonsequential language. We need a language that can say not just one thing at a time, but an infinite number of things at once. But how can a language be nonsequential?

1/2

>> No.10522049

>>10522042

>The answer is by looking at the universe from a new perspective. You see, words were invented to differentiate things with arrengements of symbols that we call letters. This is an orange [picture of an orange], but this is an apple [picture of an apple]. They're different, so we give them different labels. We give them different words. Numbers were invented to make those labels countable. 1 apple plus 1 apple equals 2 apples, but 1 apple and 1 orange cannot be added together because they are different. So far this seems perfectly logical because it matches with our senses. To our senses, an apple and an orange are clearly different, so they need different labels. However, during the 1940s, during the dawn of the computational revolution Stanislaw Ulam and John Von Neumann of the Los Alamos National Laboratory invented a new language that looked at our reality for what it actually is [cellular automaton video on screen]. Nonsequential and without labels. And if we hope to speak a more pure language of the universe then we must do likewise.

2/2

>> No.10522124

>>10521243
you should make more videos demonstrating the automaton and how it represents other physical phenomena

>> No.10522160

>>10522049
>>10522042
Nah, Cellular automatons are based and likely compatible with a UTOE.

Because you can make a cellular automaton that acts as an accurate UTOE does not mean we are in a cellular automaton though, just that its one model that works. Since CAs can be Turing complete, and assuming our universe is intelligable, we can already be reasonable confident that an accurate model of our universe can be made with such a thing.

Actually having the model just means we can learn more about our universe and maybe get closer to what is causing it to exist. The map is not the territory.

>> No.10522166

>>10521243
gary, could you explain how particle velocities work in your simulation?

>> No.10522205

>>10522160
Yes, I agree. I don't readily accept that Garys conjecture that classical math is inadequate for modelling a UTOE. Its makes sense that he wants to push this idea, regardless of whether its true or not, and also regardless of whether his CA is legit or not. Assuming Gary is a fraudster, maybe I should stop posting my thoughts such that he can optimize his propaganda. We will find out eventually.

>> No.10522226

>>10522205
Eh it doesn't matter nothing said here is really special or anything he cant find by googling. Hes saying some reasonable things and then dressing them in his own extravagant bullshit.

Point I was trying to make is that while cellular automatas may be picked up by popsci types, that doesn't mean its wrong.

As someone who studies this stuff, its pretty obvious Gary is a conman scammer. Im mostly here to challenge myself to reverse engineer his shitty scam and shut him down. On the off chance its not bullshit (it is), I would be happy to work with him, but that wont be happening since it is a scam

>> No.10522255

>>10522226
>while cellular automatas may be picked up by popsci types, that doesn't mean its wrong.
I agree. I get that it seemed like I was making that argument.

>> No.10522263

>>10521370
Actually it could just be a simple CA and the different layers are just different skins of the same program. He might just be trying to sound smart; he wouldn’t so genuinely believe it was simple enough to figure out if there were really ten layers actually interacting with each other.

>> No.10522265

Who would have guessed things change with spacetime 'density'?
Wat a toddler.
It doesn't matter anyways.
What good does it do us knowing we can simulate shits we knew about before?

>> No.10522272

Did the guy who said math is only sequential forget about multi variable differential equations, or did he never learn to appreciate them?

Or perhaps I am wrong since I’m only in calc 2.

>> No.10522372

>>10521193
You say this like we're having him burned at the stake when we ask for proof you complete mongoloid

>> No.10522381

>>10521323
I think a 3D spreadsheet would be useful

>> No.10522411

>>10522381
then you're a retard

>> No.10522437

>>10521404
"Just pick a few automata any layer them on top of each other"
That's not even remotely how this CA works

>> No.10522443

>>10521448
"He's lost it". That's exactly what they said when I invented the smart speaker in 2013. "Why would anyone want to talk to a speaker?"

>> No.10522448

>>10521612
"Nothing in my inbox" read your post objectively as a human being rather than as a psychopath. You are advocating for burning humans alive. We get one life, and you are advocating for burning humans alive. Why would I ever associate with some with your mindset. This is exactly why the Optimum Institute has a code of ethics, and you don't make the cut, pal

>> No.10522452

>>10521687
I have released all 4 forces already, and psychopaths on here are advocating burning me alive and throwing me in jail like Galileo. Safe to say that my assessments of you alls character has been correct all along.

>> No.10522465

>>10520998
That's racist. I mean... stereotypical.

>> No.10522466

>>10521744
You are correct. I did not monetize the first smart speaker, that I built in 2013. I had it build by a Chinese factory that I found on Alibaba and so the production line was setup, and I had the website built and even the first ad, but I was raising a child by myself at the time and wasn't able to find the time and resources, so I posted the entire thing to reddit and Amazon built the Alexa approx on year later. Here is the ad if you were wondering, you have to wait until the end to see the product. Idea was to have these little cartoon based on popular musicians to hook people in and then flash the ad at the end. This was the prototype ad to prove proof of concept, and that's my voice you hear in the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPPflIF7wWs

>> No.10522468

>>10522042
Optimum theory does not "get ride of math". If you watch the whole video you would see that. It only argues that math was missing an element - automata. I am write of course. I almost always am. -G

>> No.10522473

>>10522124
I have already shown the automata replicating all 4 forces.

>> No.10522480

>>10522160
Correct. Optimum Theory is very clear that this universe cannot be perfectly recreated, fyi. The Universe is already the perfect turing machine. recreating even a square inch of it would require infinite processing power, which we don't have, and never will. We are not "God". -G

>> No.10522494

>>10522166
Are you asking because automatons all propagate at the same speed? If so, great question. I don't know if you saw the video where I create a vector field using this equation, but I did. Also, to better show different velocity we need to scale up this automaton. That's why I need to raise money to rent time on a super computer. Time is actually scale dependent depending in this model. Think of it like comparing a the wing flaps of a bumble bee to an eagle. Bee flaps super hard and goes slow. Eagle flaps slow and goes fast.

>> No.10522502

>>10522272
Go read the front page of r/physics today and you can read their comments in realtime while they basically say that fluid is magic and not even God knows how it works. FLUID WAS SOLVED BY CELLULAR AUTOMATA YEARS AGO.

>> No.10522511

>>10522468
Well I am almost always right, except in my spelling here. Write? -G

>> No.10522530

>>10522466
use a tripcode so we can tell you from the fakes

>> No.10522534

>>10517521
>>10517529
Between reading these two posts I realized that any optimization on the equation represented by the spreadsheet will look like a holodeck from our perspective-outside-time as simulation creators.

>> No.10522549

>>10517529
Thanks! -G

>> No.10522550

>>10517596
Should we start making theorems to determine whether or not that troll post was from Gary now, or do we wait until after the collapse when it'll be more mythic in the human psyche?

>> No.10522555

>>10522534
Correct. 20 ear plan is to develop this CA into a "holodeck", and then we mind upload and live forever. This only sounds crazy when you forget that the time between the first wright brothers flight and the moon landing was half-a-lifetime. and things are moving WAY faster now than then, -G

>> No.10522556

>>10522555
I meant 20 year plan. This text field is the size of a flies anus and I have zero interest in editing my comments in it lol

>> No.10522559

>>10522468
>Optimum theory does not "get ride of math"
I didn't say it did.
>If you watch the whole video you would see that. It only argues that math was missing an element - automata.
I literally transcribed the line where you said that and put it in my post. So I know what you said. You then went on to argue that classical math (without this missing element) is insufficient for creating a UTOE for this very reason.

>> No.10522582

>>10522411
t.has never had 3 different variables to chart in a spredsheet

>> No.10522588

>>10522452
Lol yeah, we want to burn you because you said silly things on the internet

>> No.10522595

>>10522534
>>10522555
>>10522556
this is the logical progression of course if your CA is scalable and can incorporate the multiple higher dimensions needed for an accurate reproduction of physical forces.

>> No.10522629

>>10522595
My original claim made no size about the optimization boundary of the holodeck. Even if the most we can compute without a sentient internet is 20 million atoms, that's still worth knowing and testing.

>> No.10522649

>>10522629
are you confident that your system can handle the many body problem?

>> No.10522651

>>10522448
No. You have no faith in God to ensure that the right things happen.
You are the one with a psycopathic mindset.

>>10522452
The 4 forces that have been known for awhile now? Yea great dude, soooo impressive that you know shit I learned in high school.

Stop claiming some sort of moral high ground, just do what you know in your heart is right.
You know you're making mistakes, something in you knows it. Dont listen to your ego, listen to your soul.


If you interpret what I said as burning people alive then you are going to end up being the one causing such burning to happen. It isnt worth it. It isnt about you. It isnt about you. It isnt about you. Stop trying to make it about you.

>> No.10522729

>>10522448
If Galileo kept his work secret, we would having this discussion 100 years from now. Every moment you delay, you are creating an unimaginable scale of additional pain in the future.

You dont care about that though, you only care about fame here and now. You may even genuinely believe you're doing this for the right reasons, but when it leads to you claiming you should be on Joe Rogans podcast when you barely have anything to show other than an excel spreadsheet, its quite obvious the wrong reasons underlie.

I get the feeling that your heart is in the right place, you want to be a good person and have a good influence. Thats good. But just wanting it isnt enough, the ego can be quite strong and clever at tricking your heart into ego enrichment instead of truly helping humanity.

Its very clear to everyone here that isnt you that this is 90% a way to stroke your ego. The first man to figure out a true UTOE. What a special person you must be. No. It isnt about you, and if you try to make it about you, the consequences are not good.

I still have a bit of faith in that 10% of apparent legitimacy though.

>> No.10522736

>>10522651

This conversation is getting way too weird for me, bro. I'm out.

>> No.10522744

>>10522649
>the many body problem?

Of course. Solving the many body problem is exactly why my model works where classical mathematic models have failed. That's literally the entire point of using cellular automata when unifying physics.

>> No.10522829

>>10522744
That's the point, but how do you know it will work?

>> No.10522837

>>10522729
If this was about me I wouldn't be wasting my time on this. I am from a privileged background. I could be spending my entire life lounging by the pool if I wanted. But the world is heading toward a dark ages without intervention. Our leadership is weak. It sickens me having to pretend that most these clowns I see are my "leaders". Some are good. Some are even great. But we deserve the best. I feel like I'm in the back seat of a car being driven by drunks half the time. It's not enough to stand by and observe it happening. I need to protect the future for my children. & my human family, which includes you. We have many challenges ahead: over population, resource scarcity, sickness, death. And our leadership in general is clueless.

>> No.10522843

>>10522829
Because cellular automata solves theoretically infinite simultaneous equations. My demo videos have already shown this.

>> No.10522854

>>10522843
But your videos didnt show this
They showed some pretty patterns in excel that indicate absolutely nothing related to reality. You claim red dots are electrons, and expect people to just believe you lol gimme a fuckin break

>> No.10522865

>>10522736
You know Im right and it hurts because your ego won't accept being wrong about anything. you're right about everything from your perspective. But your perspective is not the ultimate truth.

>>10522837
This makes me more confident you have genuine good intentions, but also so much more worried that you have no chance of escaping anytime soon except for maybe a fuck ton of meditation.

You need to get to know yourself better.

You have good intentions but you hold yourself as the Messiah responsible with fixing things. It wont end well for you, and worse you may hurt others in the process.

>> No.10522889

>>10522837
All four of those problems are the same problem.

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So anything new here? I was kind of semi hyped, and then disappointed but now want this gary dude to keep going with his unified theory thingy.
no interest in the philosophy and god type stuff whatsoever which made this all seem like a scam to me

>> No.10522999

>>10522956
It turns out that to uncover the secrets of the automaton you either have to pay Gary $100 to watch his documentary and hope he actually has instructions, or simply get him on the Joe Rogan podcast (or any broadcast with 10,0000+ viewers) and he will explain it there.

Of course if you ask him to release it for free he says he doesn't want it getting into the wrong hands, but you know, $100 in Gary's pocket and the 'wrong hands' don't stand a chance.

>> No.10523008 [DELETED] 

>>10522999
>simply get him on the Joe Rogan podcast (or any broadcast with 10,0000+ viewers) and he will explain it there.
Lets get him on Joe Rogan, guise. How are we going to do it?

>> No.10523024

>>10522865
Bro, STFU. You act like I don't get it, and that I'm susceptible to being gas lit. I'm not. I know exactly what organization you belong to, your style of writing already revealed that. Here's what you might not understand: I am at least 2 generations beyond where you are in life right now. Your organization has nothing new left to teach me, or offer, and it's not advanced enough to understand my innovations either, so trying to help them directly would be wasted effort. That's why I have to do this. I am doing this so your children's child have a path and don't need to go through the same struggles that I have. Take care bud.

>> No.10523030

>>10523024
>I'm susceptible to being gas lit
Anything that hasn't completed spherical reasoning is susceptible to gaslighting.

>> No.10523032

>>10522889
"All four are the same problem."
Interesting. How do you mean? -G

>> No.10523035

>>10522956
I was thinking about this while walking my dogs today. I would not have been able to make these innovations without the philosophy part, but maybe better to keep that to myself? But then how can anyone else follow the logic?

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This was you 6 months ago Gary: on the one hand all ego, why bother without the accompanying fame and money? And on the other espousing the optimisation of the species through your work regardless of the person that does it. So which is it? Most here think you're a scam artist, you either prove them and all other detractors wrong and release the rule for the supposed benefit of us all (including you) or continue to defer for internet fame and chump change. Btw, availability of information does not infer the ability to properly use it, this applies to you too.

>> No.10523040

>>10523032
Reveal a fresh hint of your automaton and I will enlighten thee.

>> No.10523046

>>10522999
That's a fair critique. Anyway, website will be done soon. Hopefully within next few days.

>> No.10523051

>>10523030
Interesting. Define spherical reasoning. A google search only brings up flat earth horseshit

>> No.10523060

>>10523037
Decent sleuthing. I have been fairly impressed by the 4chan format so far, not going to lie. If that is Gary, and I'm not even say that I'm Gary, but then I might argue that that was 6 months ago, and I felt I have exhausted every avenue trying to get people interested in this idea, and now I need to take it into my own hands. Furthermore, when fake Gary said that he would post, a bumper crop of 4Channers showed up to preemptively dismiss it before it was even released. If I was Gary I might say that I am building the website and it should be done soon, maybe within a few days.

>> No.10523063

>>10523040
Lol. I am was Gary I might say that I am building a website any maybe will let you in for free if you have good ideas. -Maybe real Gary maybe not

>> No.10523067

>>10523063
*eye roll* I hate this tiny text box. Posts always come out like word salad

>> No.10523072

>>10523024
Yea OK man
Im not part of any organization lol

>gas lit
Im not saying youre crazy. Im saying youre make the same self centered hypocritical choices that most people make. I dont believe you even have a UTOE, I like the properties your CA seems to have though and I would like to at least see it for myself. But the way youre going about this is wrong no matter what it is.

Even if I was in some organization, how would you actually pick that out over a few posts like this on an anonymous imageboard? There is no way for you to be sure unless I used some specific code or something I guess. Ive thought similar things before, but again, its ego.. maybe people you talk with here could be part of some great conspiracy organization, but you nor I have enough information to determine that.
Coming to such a strong conclusion anyways screams that your ego is in charge and you fundamentally only care to serve it.


>>10523037
This is good. From what you wrote there, you clearly have the capacity and understanding of things greater than yourself. Maybe you wont get credit, does it matter? No, not much.
I mean if I made some discovery I would wish to have credit, but if things turned out that I didnt so be it, what matters more is the actual consequences of the discovery.

Ive been trying to get you to see how youre coming at this from a fully self centered viewpoint, but I think I may have figured out another element of why youre acting like this. And again I relate because Ive been the same way in the past, all humans are sooner or later, these things are part of being human. Anyways what it is is that you are terrified of lack of control. You see how things have happened in history and you want this to go better, the best way it can. Unfortunately, things are complex, and it was a difficult lesson to swallow, but you simply are not in control.
Same way as I can keep posting here pleading for the rule. I can only type to you with good intention and hope for the best

>> No.10523073

Anyway, point is: if I was real Gary then I would be building a website and maybe that will be done in a few days. Maybe I will let you in for free. Maybe. If I were real Gary.

>> No.10523080

>>10523072
>Coming to such a strong conclusion anyways screams that your ego is in charge and you fundamentally only care to serve it.

Correct. This is a part of Optimum Theory. Although that is not the wording that is used in the video. The subconscious gives suggestions and those suggestions are usually spot on if we have the bravery to follow them. The video explains this concept in depth and at an algorithmic level.

>> No.10523084

>>10523073
Im hopeful

This is Jerry btw

If you can email me anything at all that can at least help get me started or give me some indication that Im not just wasting my time here

>> No.10523086

>>10523072
>This is good. From what you wrote there, you clearly have the capacity and understanding of things greater than yourself.

I am designing The Optimum Institute as a Judeo-Christian organization. But it's more than that. I am working on "apologetics" directed toward all major faith systems. What we are working on is massive and will require global buyin. I explain a little more about that here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI4-t-_N8qQ&t=0s

>> No.10523100

>>10523032
I just mean conceptually. You've been standing outside consciousness too long, stuck in the space of algorithms and computation. You need to learn to speak human language again, and recontextualize everything from that space back to common understanding. At some points it will conflict, at others it will mesh seamlessly.

In terms of administrative practicality, overpopulation only exists insofar as we don't have the resources to support a population, and death is an advanced form of sickness. We have to get everyone thinking in terms of what will become possible, rather than what already is. From the perspective of immortality being possible, the only question left is how to allocate and distribute resources such that disease is minimized over an increasingly dense population.

>> No.10523105

>>10523067
You can drag it to be larger just like a window.

>> No.10523114

>>10523100
I like that you are thinking about this stuff. Here is the Optimum Theory objective for eternal life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfw0O0vGztY

>> No.10523123

>>10523086
OK cool whatever dude

I am not interested in being part of building that.

The thing that I was speaking about in that quote is your mention of indivisibility. The understanding that the ego may have value but also pulls lots of tricks all the time forming useless or even harmful illusions. Most humans by default operate primarily through these illusions.
People who understand the ego's place and how to ignore it are able to attain what some call "Christ consciousness"
I see it as just a state of being where you are acting as an agent of humanity as a whole, entirely selfless. You can still make mistakes and cause harm acting this way, but whatever mistakes or harm that occurs is necesaary. There is no better way. Every other way is acting in some way selfish and usually through lies of some form, and will always cause more harm in the end.

>> No.10523127

>>10523123
I say im not interested just because it really really sounds like a cult, and if there ever was a cult I would join, thats the sort, something deep in me says to stay away from that but to continue talking to you.

>> No.10523161

>>10523123
If people could understand ego as a scalar field and employ as much effort to understanding it as they do hypotheses about dark energy and inflation, there would be no need for putting names to this shit.

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>>10523100
>>10523123
hello /x/phriend

>> No.10523211

Cult: "a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object"

The Optimum Institute is not a cult. It does not require worship of a person or thing. It's just an education and research institute with some really modern ideas, and clear objective.

>> No.10523260

>>10523211
>toward a particular figure or object
>and clear objective

>> No.10523263

>>10523161
Uhhhhh
Errr
Ok dude

>> No.10523342

>>10523260
I said objective, not object. A cult worships an object like a golden calf. An institution, like The Optimum Institution, works to build medical technology. Totally different.

>> No.10523345

I mean is Apple a cult? Is Google? Is it cultish when Google says "don't be evil?" My institution simply has more explicitly fleshed out ethics than that, inspired by my Judeo-Christian heritage, big whoop

>> No.10523379

This is so lame.
Ps: if you want to scam someone, try promising slightly less than the secrets to all of space and time.

>> No.10523420

>>10523379
Not a scam bro. People are smarter than you think. I'll have a website up soon, next few days, since Patreon is a bad format for this. It will have a paywall like I've said from the beginning, $99. Period. Patreon made me set it as monthly. More info soon if anyone cares. If not, no worries. It's a nonprofit. The money will be spent advancing the simulation. 20-year goal is a sim so advanced that we can achieve mind uploading. Time between wright bros first flight and moon landing was less than a lifetime. Things happen fast. More info soon.

>> No.10523457

>>10523420
Yeah bro i totally believe you, gotta get that monay XD
Shill threads like this should be deleted on sight.

>> No.10523511

>>10523420
I am interested and will be happy to provide funds but only once I know what the rule is. Until I know what the rule is, youre just repeating a bunch of shit that anyone with an IQ of over 120 who's taken acid or read a significant amount of philosophy or holy texts or meditated for awhile, can tell you

>> No.10523583

>>10523345
No, but the extremes of the fan-groups that have popped up around some of these organizations are fairly cult like. Especially some fringe Apple fans (see the green bubbles don't talk to me meme). Basically, 'you are only a person good enough to talk to me if you overspent at least as much as I have on a phone by buying apple'.

The figure or object being worshiped here is the automaton, and by extension The Optimum Institution itself. The institute is currently the church where the automaton, or at least formula/ruleset that drives it, is the prophet. Gary demands payment for entry and has yet to prove at any capacity that this prophet of his is telling the truth. Unless he releases his research for peer review, potential followers are only able to join based off faith. Faith in some random dude on the internet who refuses to provide meaningful proof that he is onto something genuine.

>> No.10523670

*eye roll* FINE! It's a cult & a religion. It's a cult of love and a religion of understanding. You dweebs happy now?? Website will be finished soon and it's going to knock your socks off. It's got a way for us to meet up locally and dork out over our filthy love of materialism and the Universe, together, so we can frolick and catch frogs and ogle over the wonders of the nights sky and the infinite beyond, where we can laugh about how stupid it is that we have to makeup excuses for our love of nature, science and reason just to appease crazy fundamentalists, and where we can sing our heart songs of joy peace and love! I'll see you fags there

>> No.10523673

That was Fake Gary posting of course. Real Gary is super serial and would never post such silly nonsense

>> No.10523680

>>10523583
You are taking this WAAAAY too serious. Optimism is a cult of love and a religion of understanding. The equation is as real as it gets but its not even calculatable, all we can do is average toward it, like trying to reach a mathematical limit. Calculating it would take infinite processing power. Our sims will get better, but never perfect. We are apes, hurling through space on spaceship Earth. Considering that crazy circumstance, all we can do is be Optimistic!

>> No.10523714

>>10517506
Spreadsheets aren't programming languages.

>> No.10523715

>>10523035
How about just using pure math? Perhaps you can construct it in a logical order in order to outline its proof. Even crazier, you could document it in some sort of textile or paper.

>> No.10523726

>>10523715
Yeah, but then how would I be able to start a cult of love & understanding?

>> No.10523766

The world has become such bullshit that people are pretending the Earth is flat just to mock the absolute horseshit that is the status quo in meatspace. These people try and weed out and destroy anybody who thinks logically, so the counter-culture has become, "oh, you want me to think like a braindead retard? Fine! THE EARTH IS FLAT!!! YOU MORONS HAPPY NOW!!!" It is past time for the pendulum to swing in the other direction. Radical logic. The world has become so brain dead that they label you a cultist simply for gazing in amazement at the wonder of existence. The absolute miracle that is life the universe and everything. The truth is more beautiful than anything a human could write or dream up. We are the Universe come to life; sprouted from the infinite, we fought and clawed our way to the zenith of Earthly creation. We are not fall; WE ARE RISEN!

>> No.10523772

Gary you fucking retard, we're not upset because the equation is on Patreon, we're upset that you're charging anything for it at all. You haven't even confirmed that everything we need to be able to recreate this at home is in the video. Why would we pay $99 on something that hasn't been peer reviewed and isn't of the professional quality of a paper? Making a new website and still charging for it won't help

>> No.10523819

The peer review process has become completely corrupted. They only care about getting 21 billion euro for their new collider, even though their last collider found nothing new. Colliders are the 21st centuries equivalent of the Egyptian pyramids. Impressive engineering, but a massive money pit. The established Academia sold their souls years ago and now just go through the motions making up nonsense like this fuckery that the Universe is an 11 dimentional hologram bubble, which they themselves cannot even explain, but hey it's a fun exercise in fake theoretical math apparently. The Nobel has become a pointless circle jerk, Obama getting the peace prize just for existing was the icying on the cake. The bullshit they teach kids in schools hasn't been updated since the end of WW2; they still spend virtually an entire year teaching kids the fucking quadratic equation just because that was the equation used in WW2 era gunnery manuals. Its a fucking joke. Their rejection of Optimum Theory is a badge of honor. They know it destroys everything, and rebuilds it into something faster, leaner... more Optimum. The equation is as real as it gets, but the community will be where its at. The site is going to be a social network for innovators, dreamers, free-thinkers. The modern equivalent of the French Salon movement. A place for people sick of this shit, and ready for the world to move on from the dark ages. -Fake Gary

>> No.10523849

If Gary is actually reading this thread,
Although I'm sceptical that your CA is actually a UTOE, it's still interesting and I'd like to know if your CA predicts or denies the existence of negative mass matter, magnetic monopoles, gravitons, etc

>> No.10523871

Negative mass, yes; assumption is generally that nature always works on absolute scales but fluid can have negative pressure, Veritasium has a great episode about it, and so does ThunderF00t. Magnetic monopoles - positive and negative - are the fundamental units according to Optimum Theory, so yes. Gravitons, yes; but more fundamentally gravity is a system of averages; imagine a number line from -10 to +10, and two planets of equal mass sit at both ends, what is the average? 0. They attract toward the center. Only reason they rotate each other is because they average toward their past locations, not their present locations (since gravity takes time to propagate and changing direction takes energy as well), so once complex motions are involved missed collisions are frequent and self sustaining, if that makes sense.

-G

>> No.10523937

I'm gay -G

>> No.10523961

>>10523937
Not that there's anything wrong with that -G

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>> No.10524178

Your new favorite website is under construction, fellow cultists

https://www.optimist.center/

>> No.10524183

>>10521429
this

>> No.10524202

What's better though:

Optimist Center
Optimum Center
Optimum Institute
Optimist Institute
Optimism Institute
Optimism Center

>> No.10524210

>>10523961
I love being fucked in the ass please cum in my boipussy - G

>> No.10524219

>>10524202
>Optimum Institute
Just keep the original

>> No.10524227

>>10523871
Interesting, does it explain why we don't see magnetic monopoles in nature? Also, what about dark matter and dark energy?

>> No.10524246

>>10524227

We do see magnetic monopoles in reality lol! Sorry to laugh but it's because Optimum Theory is so damn obvious in hindsight! You know this magnetic monopole as gravity!!

Also, someone messaged me talking smack because I "hadn't considered the gravitational constant", and he was right, so i went and calculated it from e / s, so when applied to two particles that gives e*e / s^2. And of course e = m. Starled my dog shouting "FUCK YEAH!!" after that one

>> No.10524250

>>10524219

*thumbs up*

>> No.10524276

>>10524227

Dark matter and dark energy are essentially all that exist other than space according to Optimum theory. If you think of the Universe as being a fluid, then dark matter is positive pressure and dark energy is negative pressure. Fluid is one of the few energy systems that does not operate on a natural number scale, and negatives are actually possible in a real sense. These interacting forces gives rise to all complexity according to Optimum Theory.

>> No.10524280

>>10524246

U = e / s is the unified equation i discovered

fyi, I am really digging this site! I have no idea how you guys even find this thread still desu!

>> No.10524283

>>10524280

*desu not desu

(weird typo, though I am laying on my back like a fucking sloth and can barely see my keyboard)

>> No.10524289

>>10524283

Lmfao I hate you guys, desu

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Gooble gobble!

>> No.10524307

>>10524178
nice website my G

>> No.10524323

>>10524227
You have to understand that everything in existence all comes back to u = e / s, but dark matter and dark energy are both very base to the equation. Makes a lot more sense when seen simulated. What you think of as dark matter is really just the medium of light. It's actually the aether in a way. And yes I know the arguments against this, it's all covered in the video.

>> No.10524332

bumplocked again

new thread:
>>10524330