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Can anyone give an example of any animals that look as different as abbos do to europeans that are the same species?

>> No.10492285

>>10492280
Dogs

>> No.10492288

>>10492285
dogs and wolves are separate species

>> No.10492312

can we have this /pol/tard thread deleted?

>> No.10492314

>>10492312
It's about speciation

don't be political anon

>> No.10492339

>>10492314
>species
not science or math
>anthropology
not science or math
>biology
not science or math

above subjects are all pseudoscience

>> No.10492350

>>10492339
So Darwin, Mendel and Watson weren't scientists?

>> No.10492355

>>10492314
>It's about speciation
Certainly not textually. This thread has nothing to do with speciation. Learn what speciation is, racist mong.

>> No.10492356

>>10492280
americans and europeans

>> No.10492362

>>10492350
>no math
nope completely pseudoscience.

>> No.10492393

>>10492362
i guess sacred geometry is science huh?

>> No.10492397

>>10492280
>>10492285
>>10492288
If they can fuck and make non-sterile offspring then they are the same species.

>> No.10492403

>>10492280
Why doesn't the white girl have lips? She looks like an alien.

>> No.10492423

>>10492397
Believing that all other animals that are separated in species can't reproduce with one another means you're just naive.

>> No.10492435

>>10492280
>Appearance is how we classify species

No

>>10492288
Nope. Canis Lupus Familiaris are dogs, which are wolves. Wolves are just canis lupus

>> No.10492437

>>10492423
No, it means he has a different species concept than you.

>> No.10492439

>>10492423
If they can reproduce they are the same species. If they can't reproduce because there is a physical barrier between them then they are still the same species. You don't make a new species every time you put an animal in a zoo.

>> No.10492457

>>10492280
they're pretty similar tbqh

>> No.10492474

>>10492355
nobody said anything about race but you, you are the racist

>> No.10492483

>>10492288
You think a pomeranian looks remotely similar to a pit bull to a german shepherd?
Racists confirmed for low IQ.

>> No.10492493

>>10492362
Chemistry???

>> No.10492498

>>10492483
Humans are similar. Does a midget look anything like anyone normal

>> No.10492514

>>10492483
why did you bring up race?

>> No.10492523

Is there some rule that states that a /pol/ thread must be on the front page of /sci/ at all times?

>> No.10492527

>>10492514
>If I pretend I didn't post a /pol/ topic that has been posted on /pol/ literally thousands of times, I'll look clever when I point out that I never mentioned anything about race when others do so, because communication ends at the literal meaning of the written word and context doesn't mean anything.

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>>10492397
Are lions and tigers the same species?

>> No.10492597

>>10492523
>Is there some rule that states that a /pol/ thread must be on the front page of /sci/ at all times?
This is not about politics, it is about the speciation of mammals, it's about science

>> No.10492665

>>10492597
It's clearly politically motivated. Pseudoscience is drawing a conclusion and trying to prove it afterwards.

>> No.10492669

>>10492527
You're putting in too much effort for those retards.

>> No.10492673

>>10492280
>Picks ugly black person instead of a beautiful black person

Bait

>> No.10492686

>>10492559
>and make non-sterile offspring

>> No.10492687

>>10492673
Those don't exist

>> No.10492695

>>10492474
>racist imagery literally in the op
I mean, I know /pol/ doesn't have a very high attention spam but damn.

>> No.10492728

>>10492665
>It's clearly politically motivated.
you don't know the intentions of others, racist

>> No.10492730

>>10492673
>beautiful abbo

>> No.10492732

>>10492280
>347289th thread in which /pol/ comes here to find bullshit support for their bullshit ideology.

>> No.10492736

>>10492314
>implying the sciences are invulnerable to politics
It's almost like you never set foot into a university.

>> No.10492742

>>10492686
Have you heard of liligers?

>> No.10492751

>>10492673
Please, find a beautiful aboriginal and post the pic. There are passable 1/4 abos but even halfbloods are almost always plagued by gigantic misshapen nose amongst other features.

>> No.10492752

>>10492730
Kek

>> No.10492761

>>10492397

wHat AbOUt neAndErThALs

>> No.10492764

>>10492362
This is the dumbest shit I've seen on 4chan in the past three hours

>> No.10492785
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10492785

>>10492673

Here's a video of the esteemed Ngaanyatjarra people, known for their informative commercials concerning proper safety protocol when dealing with petroleum by-products.

Do tell me anon, no, show me, all the beautiful specimens this race has to give to the planet's collective gaze. I am eager to see them.

>> No.10492788

>>10492785
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1yeBmSFkC4

>> No.10492890

>>10492732
nobody said anything about politics or race

sorry if you personally find empirical scientific facts to be racist or against your ideology

>> No.10492894

>>10492788
In America white people just by needles to to inject heroin into their veins directly, like the geniuses they are

>> No.10492898

>>10492890

I agree. The reality of race has important political consequences but that doesn't mean it can't be assessed independently of political thought.

>>10492894

I considered that, you could also bring up China's JUST historical opium addition but the Abbos also need commercials informing them to not sleep on the roads.

So, I see it as like 2/2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1yeBmSFkC4

Also, like, come on man. Who gets addicted to petrol, can you even get addicted to petrol?

>> No.10492900

>>10492890
>nobody said anything about politics or race
Neither did that guy...

>> No.10492901

>>10492898

My bad, the url is form the song I posted before as the copy function didn't work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qClBRaretEk

>> No.10492907

>>10492898
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJp-Py4mkI4

>> No.10492909

>>10492898
It happens
https://youtu.be/4xUcMzf53Mc

>> No.10492910

>>10492437
I believe everyone who has the same 4 nucleotides in their DNA are the same species.

>> No.10492911

>>10492483
So a sausage dog and a German Shepard are equally capable creatures?

>> No.10492913

>>10492498
A midget has a genetic disorder.

>> No.10492915

>>10492913
>A midget has a genetic disorder.
just a little one though

>> No.10492919

>>10492742
>Non-sterile

>> No.10492922

>>10492919

"According to Wild Cats of the World (1975) by C. A. W. Guggisberg, ligers and tigons were long thought to be sterile; however, in 1943, a fifteen-year-old hybrid between a lion and an 'Island' tiger was successfully mated with a lion at the Munich Hellabrunn Zoo. The female cub, though of delicate health, was raised to adulthood.[21]"

Kaploosh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger#Fertility

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10492935

>>10492280
pol on suicidewatch

>> No.10492944

>>10492935
one of those is a polar bare, the other is a grizzley bare

2 species

>> No.10492949

Male and female peafowl

>> No.10492950

>the worth of a human person depends entirely on if I find them attractive or not: the thread

>> No.10492953

>>10492673
kek this race mixer cuck cant differentiate an abbo from a black person

>> No.10492955
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10492955

>durr discrete and seperate species exist because uhmm.. uhh grrr wtf are you implying that nature isn’t subject to the whims of autistic and pseudoscientific “researchers” who want to cateogrize everything??

>> No.10492959

>>10492397
I see you're trying to weed out mules but mules aren't sterile ALL the time.

>> No.10492961

>>10492439
What about ring species?

>> No.10492966

>>10492935
We can go home guys

>> No.10492968

>>10492559
https://youtu.be/hn1VxaMEjRU

>> No.10492986

>>10492397
Lrn2species fgt pls

>> No.10492992

>>10492423
>you're just naive
...not merely naïve, but stupid.

>> No.10492994

>>10492435
>dogs, which are wolves
L0Lno fgt pls

>> No.10492996

>>10492437
>he has a different idiot species concept than you
FTFY

>> No.10492999

>>10492761
>wHat AbOUt WHATABOUTISM

>> No.10493019

>>10492280
>pic on the right
Animals don't wear makeup.

>> No.10493043

Dogs is generally the best answer in terms of physiology but happy face spiders is a second example.

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/happyface_03

>> No.10493078

>>10492944
>bare

>> No.10493152

>>10492397
They've changed the definition, fellow old person. I know, it's hard to keep up.

>>10492423
Words mean what they are agreed upon to mean. Believing any word has an absolute innate meaning is naive. And also it's somewhat caboose.

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10493156

DO NOT FEED

>> No.10493159

>>10492911
No
But comparing dog breeds to human haplogroups is fucking retarded, humans didn't undergo artificial selection

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10493162

>>10493019

>Animals don't wear makeup.

Where is your god now???

>> No.10493164

>>10493159
Define "artificial selection. If it means "humans selecting for certain traits," we probably did.

>> No.10493165

>>10492695
>>racist imagery literally in the op
>I mean, I know /pol/ doesn't have a very high attention spam but damn.
In what way is the OP photo racist? There are two photos of humans, are photos racist?

>> No.10493168

>>10493164
Maybe a little bit during slavery but definitely not nearly as much as with dogs

>> No.10493183

>>10492362
I get you're autistic but not everything requires high math. Some things are too complex to be reduced just to numbers

>> No.10493189

>>10492362
You know that math doesn't always need numbers right

>> No.10493198

@10493165
The implication is that by showing the difference between an 80 year old and a teenager, the viewer is able to see that we are ironically not "one human race"
If your brain isn't perfectly smooth this is easy to see

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10493211

>>10493198
>@

>> No.10493461

>>10493198
>implication

>> No.10493472

Threads like this make me wanna impregnate my girlfriend (white German) and start having many kids with her (I'm black)

One day we all be mixed

>> No.10493474

>>10492280
Humans are like dogs. Some dogs are pretty, some dogs are ugly.

>> No.10493522

>>10493474
>Humans are like dogs
dogs don't know about DNA

>> No.10493533

>>10493522
>dogs don't know about DNA

Niggers also don't know about DNA.

>> No.10493536

>>10493211
Who is this?

>> No.10493541
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10493541

>>10493536
>Who is this?
the speed of light personified

>> No.10493770

>>10493522
>DNA

>> No.10493825

>>10493472
one day we will all kill ourselves

>> No.10493855

>>10492397
>If they can fuck and make non-sterile offspring then they are the same species.
So neanderthals and sapiens were the same species all along???

>> No.10493868

>>10493159
>humans didn't undergo artificial selection
No, it was natural selection. The hard winters in Europe made sure only smart people survived while in the fucking African savannas pretty much anyone could survive.

>> No.10493869
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10493869

You people are fucking retarded. Species is a subjective term.

Polar bears and black bears can produce fertile offspring yet are still considered separate species.

Chimpanzees and Bonobos were once considered to be the same species because they can create fertile offspring. But we decided their behavior was too different and thus are different species.

Meanwhile there are species that CAN'T create fertile offspring that are still considered the same species like Dingos in Australia because they are genetically close enough and they actually interact with each other yet can't breed with each other even though they are in the same pack.

"Species" is a completely subjective field and if you consider someone to be human or not is therefor also purely subjective. You can say redhead gingers are not human just like polar bears. Or you can say Chimpanzees are human even though they can't produce any offspring just like the dingos.

It doesn't fucking matter since "species" don't actually exist as an objective term and instead it's very fuzzy and subjective.

>> No.10493891

>>10492312
Imagine thinking politics has anything to do with genetics. What a faggot.

>> No.10493896

>>10492339
>biology isn't science
Kill yourself retard.

>> No.10493901

>>10492523
Is there a rule that says leftists must be triggered by biology?

>> No.10493908

>>10493896
He's right though. Most of biology is just pseudo-shit. Only slightly better than crap like psychology.

>> No.10493915

>>10493472
The kids will be half-human, half-nigger.

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10493917

>>10492280
Comparing a 17 year old Nordic girl with a 75 year old aborigine

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>>10493917
Yeah man, the only difference is the age. Fucking racists amirite? They should go back to /pol/ haha.

>> No.10493926

>>10493917
Female Australian Aboriginals are objectively the least attractive group of females.

>> No.10493933
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10493933

>>10492280

We're all fucking homo sapiens. It pisses me off every time people refer to variations within our species as different "races".
Genetic differences between us are so incredibly small. Different phenotype =/= different race, you fucking dipshits

Please go back to pol where you belong.

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10493939

>>10493933
Niggers are a different species, you moron.

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10493941

>>10493933

>> No.10493942

>>10492312
>Equating genetics with politics
You are the problem

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10493945

>>10493923
Oh, you so got me. Look at you go.

>> No.10493946

>>10493939
>>10493941

Man, you guys sure got me.
I guess I'll throw everything I've learned about genetics, evolution, and speciation out the window!

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>>10493946

>> No.10493952

>>10493923
Way to be agist you fucking racist

>> No.10493969
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10493969

>>10493923
>>10492280
>>10493917
yes, when will we finally cull the unworthy?

>> No.10493970

what is the term for it?

Aren't abbos the most denivosan of any human?

Same with Euro/Asians being some % neanderthal

We aren't all one homogeneous species in any respect.

>> No.10493976

>>10493472
I've come to realize what separates humans from animals is animals only motive is survival (and surviving is not living). Humans have the capacity to dream beyond survival. A capacity to invent and a will to improve.
Here we see a black hominoid with his own dreams, and they are closer to survival than anything that would rank with the likes of Newton or Aristotle.

>> No.10493977

>>10493941
It's almost like there are specific genetic or ecological reasons to divide a species into subspecies beyond "they look different" and humans don't mean the parameters.

>> No.10493978

>>10493970
Japanese are the most denisovan of all humans.
Abbos are the most (pure) homo sapien of all humans.

>> No.10493981

>>10493933
Genetic difference between us is so big that some demographics literally can't reproduce with others. Some Japanese Ainu-Yamato people can't reproduce with some south west african tribe.

Some people would say that that implies they aren't even the same species anymore at that point. I don't agree with that, but it still shows significant genetic diversity within the human species.

>> No.10493983

>>10493159
>But comparing dog breeds to human haplogroups is fucking retarded, humans didn't undergo artificial selection

If a women has the choice and would rather fuck a rich man over a poor man, then that is literally artificial selection taking place.

>> No.10493986

>>10493981
Everything about this post is wrong. All humans and reproduce with each other. That's not even the definition of a species. All humans have 46 chromosomes and the same genome, and are more genetically similar to other humans and any other group.

There is not "significant genetic diversity" among humans. We are one of the least genetically diverse animals out there. All other great apes have several times the genetic diversity of humans.

>> No.10493987 [DELETED] 

>>10492397
That's just tell high schoolers, retard

>> No.10493988

>>10493981
According to what? I can't find a study referring to what you're talking about, which is what makes me think you're full of shit.

>> No.10493990

>>10492397
That's just what we tell high schoolers, retard

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10493994

>>10492280
Dunno

>> No.10493995

>>10493977
Yeah, and if we aren't hypocrites, you would know that humans definitely have actual sub species that meet the parameters that would apply to humans.

In fact, there ARE subspecies to Homo Sapiens. But Homo Sapiens Idaltu is extinct, so there is no issue with calling it a subspecies, even though if idaltu was alive today, no would call it a subspecies.

>> No.10493999

>>10493986
>All humans and reproduce with each other.
Which I just told you isn't the case
>All humans have 46 chromosomes and the same genome
Not true for example my brother has 47 chromosomes (XXY) causing him to have an higher IQ but also have more feminine features.
>There is not "significant genetic diversity" among humans.
There absolutely is. Especially among Africans due to them breeding with other archaic humanoids. Asians breeded with denisovans and erectus and Europeans have a high neanderthal %. The DNA difference between Japanese Ainu-Yamato people and the south west african tribe is 10x as distant as that of lions and tigers, which we consider different species and can produce offspring, which these 2 humans can't even do.

>> No.10494000

>>10493995
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/tan.12165

>> No.10494001

>>10493999
see
>>10494000

You have 47 chromosomes. Trisomy 21

>> No.10494004

>>10494000
Race denial is so funny, and ultimately futile, because in order to be a race denier, you need to start denying genetics. But you can't, which is why race will survive forever, its too useful a construct. Even a computer can differentiate race. Sometimes, I don't even know why I get mad at race deniers, because the reason why they deny race in the first place (because they fear the implications) will not actually debunk the implications. Racial differences can be proven with ever using "race" concept ever.

>> No.10494013

>>10494004
Who's right: 8000 geneticists, or some guy on 4chan?

https://www.cell.com/ajhg/pdf/S0002-9297(18)30363-X.pdf

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>>10494004
I honestly can't tell if this is bait at this point

>> No.10494017

>>10494013
>the million papers fallacy

>> No.10494022

/pol/ threads should be deleted on the spot

>> No.10494025

>>10494013
>Who's right: 8000 geneticists, or some guy on 4chan?

Genetics, so me. And I hope we can arrest and maybe execute people like you for basically promoting racial equality pseudoscience, knowing how evil it is.

>> No.10494027

>>10494017
proving me wrong is a rhetorical fallacy

>> No.10494031

>>10494027
But you didn't prove me wrong at all, you just posted a political statement. Its about as meaningful as Soviet Scientists proclaiming that Lysenkoism is true.

>> No.10494033

>>10494031
You're worse than flat earthers

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10494035

>>10494025
(you)

>> No.10494039

>>10494035
based

>> No.10494074

>>10493536
Go back to r*ddit.

>> No.10494106

>>10493981
wait a second...

so you're telling me if i'm an Ainu Yamato man, I can cum inside a south west african queen all I want and she'll never get preggerz?

>> No.10494128

>>10492312
Don't cry, abbo

>> No.10494150

>>10493917
that chick is MAYBE 1/4 abbo

she is not 100%abbo

>> No.10494158

>>10494150
>one drop rule says anyone with a single black ancestor is a "nigger"
>this somehow doesn't apply to aboriginals
Make up your minds, fucking alt right faggots.

>> No.10494174

>>10492435
familiaris is a subspecies, the species is still the same under the biological species concept

>> No.10494175

>>10493159
>artificial selection is a magical process that is qualitatively different from natural selection
it's funny to see secular creationists twist themselves into retarded knots like this

>> No.10494176

>>10494158
whatever, abbo girls look like shit, don't post polluted white genes and claim full abbo

>> No.10494183

>>10494158
>>>/reddit/

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>>10494214
Embarrassing

>> No.10494250

>>10493164
>>10493983
Humans selecting for other humans is just good ol' sexual selection

>> No.10494424

>>10492673
Are abos even blacks, I thought in order to be one you'd have to be a sub saharan African, or at the very least be a recent decedent of one If anything Abos are closer to whites, especially if you take into account their hair type and eye colors

>> No.10494434

>>10492898
>I considered that, you could also bring up China's JUST historical opium addition

I have been watching a bunch of liveleak vids and I really have to ask if whether or not the average Chinese IQ isn't conflated. There's no way the average person over there has an IQ of 105, because if so then the average person must be really stupid

>> No.10494500

>>10492439
I’m pretty sure that if they can’t reproduce in nature then they are different species
Dogs are a kind of exception bc their reproduction is so industrial

>> No.10494509

>>10492280
galapogos finches? Poison dart frogs?

>> No.10494539

>>10493869
I get your argument, but I disagree on the word you picked, "subjective". It makes it seems like I, myself, can decide all alone what are species and what are not.

I'd rather argue species are collegially recognized by a community.

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10494541

>>10493978

you are completely wrong

aboriginals are around 6% Denisovan, much, much higher than East Asians. Tibet has more Denisovan and even that is very small in comparison to Aboriginals.

>> No.10494544

>>10492935
Well your picture actually confirms pol

>> No.10494558

Different races, same species, what even is the discussion myself

>> No.10494573

>>10492955
>octopuses and prions are too close to be categorized as different things

>> No.10494579

>>10492280
why are aussies so racist? I mean even cannucks are a little racist, and yanks are pretty racist but I think aussies really take the cake? I'm not one of those "all races are equal bla bla bla" SJW douches... but aussies really seem to take the racist cake. fucking get over it.

>> No.10494588

>>10494579
Shut the fuck up, you stupid niggerlover. Go live in angola if you like niggers so much.

>> No.10494601

>>10494579
They have to spend $8,000 on sunscreen a month while Abos can use all their money on beer and gasoline.

>> No.10494606

>>10494588
I loved niggers so much I made a mulatto with one.

>> No.10494619
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10494619

>>10494606
I can imagine. You and your spawn should go back to it's ancestral's home.

>> No.10494626

>>10494619
Europe?

>> No.10494628

>>10492280
imagine feeling so threatened in this scary modern world with mixed races and all those complicated cultures that you go on /sci/ looking for validation of your own superiority just on the basis of your skin, bone structure and hair style. I mean, what kind of pathetic moron has so little to show for himself that that's all he has?

Go out in the world, earn the respect of your peers, and see your resentful worldviews melt as pure white snow for the sun.

>> No.10494647

>>10494579
“racism” is what happens when normal people are forced into proximity with subhumans

>> No.10494679

>>10494647
exactly. The subhumans get afraid and cobble up some crackpot theory how they are superior on a deeper level, even though on all outward accounts they are the left-behinds.

Good luck buddy, you'll need it.