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Apologies if there's a psychology board I'm unaware of. Lets be honest, a lot of people here were bullied/ outcasts growing up, and virgin "losers" now. I'd think this would make people depressed (which it does seem to) and empathetic, yet at least half of 4chan seems genuinely racist, homophobic, just looking for an excuse to hate minorites despite having no problems with degenerate behaviour e.g. weird fetishes

Why does being picked on lead to this sort of view instead of making everyone very empathetic.

Pic semi-related, I couldn't find a single crying "Pol" wojak so picked a funny one. No actual unironic hate intended for manlets

>> No.10474885

>>10474882
Because losers need someone to blame. Minorities are an old Conservative punching bag.

>> No.10474895
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10474895

>>10474882
desu I see pic related as an example of the left's hypocrisy. They fight against racism, homophobia, other forms of discrimination but deem it okay to make fun of short men.
I say this as a leftist.

>> No.10474897

>>10474895
Read last sentence.

>> No.10474904

>>10474882
There's a bit of nature and nurture there.

People who grow up getting picked on and witnessing others getting bullied might get it ingrained in their minds that this sort of behavior is normal.

It is also human nature due to tribal attitudes to dislike people that are different.

It might also be that all these people formed their own "in-groups" on 4chan so they can feel like they are a part of something--and to feel that way, there must be an "out-group" as well which would be the minorities getting hate from that half of 4chan.

>> No.10474914

>>10474895
It's so obviously a joke bait image playing off of probably the biggest insecurity on 4chan. Note how the "manlet" is actually just the average height so obviously it accurately describes most trump supporters on 4chan hence gets people butthurt

>> No.10474915

>>10474882
These views probably have nothing to do with the board. If you are unhappy then everyone is the enemy.

>> No.10474917

People adapt to 4chan.

You can be perfectly fine, but you may still be able to say and do many of the repulsive things here. It's the features here in 4chan (anonymity, boards, etc.) that has an influence on all anons. This probably is also the reason why many "bullied virgin losers" come to 4chan in the first place.

>> No.10474921

>>10474882
What gives you an idea that 4chan is made of "virgin losers"? You do realize most of the people being made fun of are vindictive turds that need trigger warnings on everything? In other words, the question is better suited for reddit.

Don't get me wrong, there's terrible stuff here on 4chan, but not much has changed in the 15 years or so I've been here. It's the rest of the world that is changing.

As a history lesson for you, dems have been the sole party of big business and racism.

>> No.10474922

>>10474882
>>10474885

>short people/ racists are drumpf supporters

Wat? Of all boards, I'd expect this one at least to have some knowledge of logic (symbolic and otherwise). I know liberals who hate minorities but vote left anyways for other reasons, and I know conservatives with black babies. You're idiots. get off the internet and learn some things.

>> No.10474924

>>10474882
I think you're taking the memes too seriously mate. Sincerely, Brenton Tarrant.

>> No.10474927

>>10474882
I take it you're that kike that's been calling me an antisemite for months?

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10474934

>>10474882
because most of them are introverts and ugly losers that live in their own imaginary world, never in my life met a successful guy who is racist
pic kinda related

>> No.10474939

>>10474882
I come here because I can't build muscle

>> No.10474947

>>10474921
>What gives you an idea that 4chan is made of "virgin losers"?
Obvious giveaways
>random off topic threads about being a loser
>everyone screeching whenever anything related to sex comes up
>normie stereotype of being full of neckbeards
>Extremely edgy political views
>absolute cluelessness on how to be successful in life

Don't even know why you'd deny this. I was a kv loser when I first started browsing but now "very successful" career wise and gf about 7 years later. This is definitely the exception though and ofc it varies with boards. E.g. r9k and Pol are kvneet central, soc and sci are awkward normie tier

>> No.10474953

I may be an autistic loser, but I'm not a virgin autistic loser

>> No.10474955

It's pointless to try to figure out the reasoning of diseased minds. What is more productive is to work to prevent it.
99% of fascists could would not be fascists if they had better nurturing.

>> No.10474956
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10474956

>>10474882
It's quite simple.
They're stupid.
There's a reason academia has a liberal bias.

>>10474921
>most of the people being made fun of are vindictive turds that need trigger warnings on everything.
The irony, of course, is how hard the right chimps out if someone calls them deplorable, or kneels for a song.

>> No.10474964

>>10474882
>virgin losers
>depressed
>not empathetic
>genuinely racist, homophobic
>looking for an excuse to hate minorities
>no problems with degenerate behaviour
>MAGA=Manlet.jpg
>cry more, Drumpf fans

Hey, fuck you, guy.

Seriously, though:
>lacking THIS MUCH self-awareness

>> No.10474970

>>10474956

lmao not caring about your third semester of holocaust class makes you stupid?

>> No.10474972

>>10474956
This. It's pretty simple.

>> No.10474978

>>10474956
Really because I thought academia's liberal bias stemmed from draft dodgers that didn't want to serve in the Vietnam war, coupled with a culture that forces people with differing ideologies into either silence or submission

>> No.10474983

>>10474978
Why do you have to be so stupid?

>> No.10474984

>>10474978
Why would someone fight in a war they don't believe in? And differing ideologies exist in academia, they're just not respected by anyone whose opinion matters.

>> No.10474994

>>10474984
Larry Summers did nothing wrong except open his mouth and speak the truth.

>> No.10474998

>>10474882
i don’t think it has to do with bullying in particular, more just the fact that anonymous image boards are an outlet for people with non-mainstream or shunned things to spout. in the case of racists and misogynists and antisemites/ antimuslims i think the main motivator is the coping mechanism people use that amounts to “i suck at life, but why? no, it’s not because i’m uneducated and a failure—instead i’m actually superior thanks to my *identity* (race sex religion etc) and the real reason is these other groups are to blame!”. so basically it’s the mirror image of conventional identity politics (“it’s white male christians’ fault, not because i’m inferior!”)

anyhow back to the “it’s anonymous” thing. i, for one, (physics guy) find it fun to post anti-string theory posts here, when in real life i need to hold my tongue about it, since bashing my colleagues who like that would think i’m trying to bash them. well sure, that would get me in trouble IRL, but anonymously it’s fun to shit on them.

so 4chan is just a good place to rant anonymously, and in the case of politics/racism/bigotry in general, the standard identity politics of “oppressors suck, screw white male christians” is fine to post on twitter and facebook and shit, whereas posting “white powah!” (which is basically the same sort of identity politics but in reverse) is only “allowed” here

>> No.10475003

>>10474994
Controversial topics are going to get hotly debated. There is nothing wrong with this.
If Larry Summers views had more supporters they would not need to back down so easily.
This is working as intended.

>> No.10475019

>>10475003
>If Galileo has had more supporters, he would have been fine. This is working as intended.
this is you. this is what you sound like.

>> No.10475022

>>10475019
Had. Fuck.

>> No.10475029

>>10474956
>Any news coverage whatsoever: Drumpf is crude, stupid, "unpresidential", most probably a sexual predator, and a divisive racist when we need inclusivity and community above all else
>Hillary calls his Trump's voter-base (more than half of American citizens) a bunch of deplorables...

>implying that Kaepernick "just kneeled for a song" and that it wasn't a widely publicised political protest...
>"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder" (referencing deliberate and systemic police brutality against black Americans)

I disagree that the right "chimped out" and this in no way illustrates any kind of irony... the above events are valid talking points, raising many important issues, and stirred a lot of contention on both sides... which were necessarily discussed.

>> No.10475030

>>10475022
dw, bruh. point well made

>> No.10475031

>>10475019
Galileo had scientific evidence. Larry put forward a ridiculous hypothesis

>> No.10475060

>4chan is a platform that started by a literal goon. who was pissed off at how political online moderation was becoming.
>inspired by japanese internet forums and bbs.
>most of these people where "techies".
>not all of these people were "low lifes" as you put it.
>All of these people did use internet to communicate.
>what are tools of the 21st century techie?
>Do you know hacking? and how much it relied on subversion social engineering and manipulation?
>Do you know how fast trends are abandoned and picked up by techies?

like fuck its just like portland when it was cool and hip to live in portland pre-2015.
then all the normies and sycophants and instathots got on board.
so all the hip portlanders left becuase they were too turned off by all the turboautists flooding the area. and now its a bunch a fucking mindless faggots and queens thinking they the shit becuase they live in such a cool town.
but its not.
its shit.
becuase you are shit.
and everything Good left this town years ago.

conversly 4chan started out as a silly place. where adminds would fuck literal beached whales.
but these people had a respect and reverence for technology and it showed in their skills. so they would do raids, and would work on projects.
slowly would increase sites exposure.
enter bad actors.
who always love manipulating newfags, or rather any new comers to this site.
so then trolling became a thing.
where the social engineering was merely and end within itself.
just for the lulz as we put it.
and when these newcomers fall prey to the bad actors, they react in a negative way, or become a bad actor themselves .
old fags leave dismayed at how people can be so stupid, which leaves the bad actors to carry the tourch.
which then perpetuates the internet hate machine and sustains it in its vicious cycle.
current anonymous iteration
is literal witch hunt.
used to be secret club,
no one talk about /b/ and shit,
now branded as gun crazy white supremacists. final boss

>> No.10475067

>>10474882
Maybe because empathy wouldn't necessarily lead to a solution?
It's possible to be empathetic but then for those feelings to not really lead you anywhere significant.

>> No.10475095

>>10475031
What, specifically, was ridiculous about what he said?

>> No.10475103

>>10474882
you're making a massive amount of assumptions. almost none of them are true. I grew up as a literal high IQ chad, and I don't want any minorities in my community or country, but I also don't hate them. I just think they're gullible and mobilized in the interests of an agenda that actively works to usurp my community's power and ability to self govern.

Also there are no such thing as "minorities" What you call "minorities" are actually "massive fucking majorities" on the global scale. Whites make up ~8% of the world's population yet everyone shills to fill our cuntries with more and more immigrants who have like 6 kids per family from nations that have 20-30x our native population.

>> No.10475109

I know you're disguising this as a science thread... just barely. But this belongs on /pol/

>> No.10475135

>>10474882
Different ethnic groups competing for resources in the same place is gonna be bad times. Why don’t you try to figure out why the Chinese don’t like black people? I’d suggest looking at why hoteps and most blacks hate whites, but I’m sure you’ll blame it on “muh oppression”. Nicaraguans don’t like Mexicans. Neither do Cubans. Maybe you should ask yourself why it’s only a problem for you when white people are distrustful of other ethnic groups.

>> No.10475152

>>10474934
They’re probably just smart enough not to let you know their true feelings. We live in a society who’s religion is liberalism and whose main motto is “diversity is our strength”. The cost of being called out as a heretic is the same as it always has been. It’s like when Christians used to say they’ve never met a successful atheist.

>> No.10475158

>>10474882
This isn't 4chan.

>> No.10475160

>>10474978
this desu

>> No.10475168

>>10474984
Found the Jew. Not even just saying that the way a lot of anons do. Your argumentation is very Jewish.

>> No.10475183

BTW it's misleading to speak of "academia's bias" or "academia's ideology", because doing so belies the fact that on the one hand you have STEM faculty that tend to be more ideologically conservative but also quieter about it because they care more about their work, and on the other hand you have extremely liberal humanities and administration faculty which are basically federally funded professional social activists

>> No.10475184

>>10474882
Empathy wouldn't lead to a solution.
Also, getting angry over insults and racism just makes it grow. 4chan is just taking advantage of people without enough common sense to understand that, it's not like our opinions will make any difference anyway.
The fact that 4chan is branded as gun crazy white supremacists now is just more fuel to shit on people.
Also, whites are a minority.

>> No.10475188

This is where people vent real race frustrations and observations that are otherwise not allowed in mainstream society. I'm perfectly well-adjusted, I'm just not going to mince words or hold back on an anonymous image board, it's cathartic to be able to speak freely and frankly about race.

If anything it's the coalition of losers, fags, and freaks who uphold speech policing these days. Those videos that come out of white kids saying nigger or playing beer pong with a swastika are all normal people, the truth is this shit shouldn't be considered so offensive but it arbitrarily is.

>> No.10475237

>>10474882
I think most people are trolls.
I'm not a racist at all IRL, but I will pretend I am racist on 4chan all the time.
It's just fun. Sometimes I even do it for my own ethnic group.

>> No.10475243

As Aristotle said:
> It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

>> No.10475252

>>10474970
If you do well in school they give you actual classes. I'm sorry you didn't apply yourself and where stuck in regular history.

>> No.10475256

>>10474882
I don't understand it. I used to LARP as a Nazi or racist for fun. Trolling is fun, my fellow libs. But this mass shooter has ruined it for me. I can't stand it now.

>> No.10475260

>>10474885
Jej, the economic losers are brown people and they constantly blame whites for all of their probems.

>> No.10475261

>>10474882
The only reason for 4chan's outlier views is the anonymity. Without social pressure to say something within the acceptable bounds of discours, people can say what they actually believe and think.
Yes, social outcasts are overrepresented but a lot of us can and do actually interact with normal society in a regular basis. Look up Luigi Pirandello's concept of the mask. Here, we take the mask off.

>> No.10475262

>>10475256

That kind of violence is common within Muslim majority populations. Sunnis and Shias routinely slaughter their own neighbors. What the guy did was wrong but this kind of stupid guilt is why weak populations give way to strong/aggressive ones who aren't going to give a shit for your empathy.

>> No.10475264

>>10475237
That just means you're a self hating racist who's still in the closet

>> No.10475272

>>10474882
Racism is against blacks is based on the cruel psychotic behavior of black americans against white american in modern America not because of any white supremacy horseshit the left runs on about.

>> No.10475286

I thought aside from /pol/ and /b/, everyone else is just sarcastic and not actually racist.

>> No.10475294

>>10475262
Your post makes no sense to me. You think what happened is wrong but you don't want me to feel bad about it?

>> No.10475299

>>10475286
Possibly at one point, but that is certainly not true now. Just look at /tv/ (arguably the worst blue board).

>> No.10475300

>>10475272
No way you're here for science and math.

>> No.10475302

>>10475264
See >>10475243
Actually I am studying what being a racist really is.
I am getting an in-depth understanding of the behaviors and motivations of racism.
Deep down everyone has a dark side where negative emotions and behaviors are coming from.
By trolling on 4chan I can understand myself even better and become a better person.
Something that "progressive" snowflakes are too scared to do.
When you see someone who is too scared of offending or making a racist joke, it is he who is the racist.
Because the only motivation that drives him to not appear racist is fear.
If the powers changed and nazis came to power, you would see these people turn into hateful nazis in a heartbeat. Because fear is what drives their every action.
But not me. I am ready to die for my beliefs any day.

>> No.10475306

>>10475256
It's almost like authentic behavior is better than being an edgy memer all the time.

>> No.10475307

>>10475299
No argument.

>> No.10475311

>>10475306
Yeah. It just seems so childish to me now.

>> No.10475312

>>10475307
>endless nigger hate threads
Yeah, I'm sure it is sarcastic and in no way reflexive of any earnestly held believes.

>> No.10475316

>>10474882
I have to say, I don't completely hate Pol. I like arguing with them. Although they call you tranny and nigger whenever they start to lose.

>> No.10475327

>>10475311
It is. Good for you for growing up.

>> No.10475334

>>10475286
Used to be the case
However people don't tend to make meme jpegs about the Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study and be "just joking"

>> No.10475345

>>10475302
>When you see someone who is too scared of offending or making a racist joke, it is he who is the racist.
Or he could just have the decency to not be a racist and like racist jokes

>> No.10475346

>>10475345
spotted the racist

>> No.10475350

>>10475334

You're offended by data and the racists are the "bad guys"

>> No.10475359

>>10475345
I don't like lazy racist jokes, which is the majority of right wing memes. But if it's good, I might have to laugh at that.

>> No.10475377

>>10475350
More like irrational, frothing hatred gets tiresome

>> No.10475391
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10475391

I think its pretty simple. Being bullied or an outcast leads you to reject mainstream society, thus you are more likely to subscribe to views that are not socially accepted or contrarian. And you end up on forums that value freedom of speech over moderated forums with enforced societal norms.

>> No.10475400

>>10475391
Explains why everyone on /his/ is either an unironic fascist or marxist, with very little in-between.

>> No.10475404

>>10475262

Not him but who gives a shit if that violence is common in Sunni and Shia communities. The fucktard shouldn't be emulating it.

Also what the guy did goes beyond wrong. It goes into absurdity. You had some guy from Australia fly to New Zealand to kill Muslims. Because he doesn't like them immigrating beyond their ancestor homeland, even though he himself isn't living in his ancestor homeland. He also justifies the killing because what a Muslim did in France yet he goes to New Zealand not France for said retribution. Then he records this shit on social media which is causing governments to pressure internet companies to start clamping down hard on everyone's freedom putting us one step closer to Chinese tier internet control.

Fuck him, fuck /pol/ and fuck anyone who even has a similar mindset as him. I don't feel guilt, I feel anger because ultimately these retards are going to ruin the internet. I can't stand these racist retards and I honestly can't stand the sjws either. The internet was literally a gift to the common populace and in the span of several decades it's been turned into a shit show.

That old prophecy of freakazoid video was right, giving people access to such levels of information will ultimately turn some of them into a borderline lunatics.

>> No.10475417

>>10474882
because its a normie accepted position to hate white people, especially men

>> No.10475420

>>10475404

The internet is just the #1 source of information dissemination at this point, it doesn't matter the medium people will get plenty radicalized on their own. In fact it's good we have the internet to gain different perspectives rather than our direct community leaders who can brainwash us however we want. I think the bigger issue is mass media exposure leading to these kinds of celeb killings where people didn't used to be so motivated to try to be random and high profile.

>> No.10475433

>>10474882
>2016 was 3 years ago

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10475531

>>10474953
Well I am an autistic virgin
Feelsbadman.html

>> No.10475553

>>10475531
Get in shape and active, learn to cook, and use online dating

>> No.10475564

>>10475237
>Sometimes I even do it for my own ethnic group.

Humanity as a whole is a cancer on earth desu

>> No.10475578

>>10475553

I'm doing fine. It's just that I don't need to be in any relationship, they're too confusing. Other than that, life's good

>> No.10475597

>>10475578
there's plenty of women that are looking for one night stands on tinder
but, and not to be pejorative, if you're sufficiently autistic where you find relationships too confusing, you might have a difficult time
good luck anon

>> No.10475608

>>10474882
>Lets be honest, a lot of people here were bullied/ outcasts growing up, and virgin "losers" now

So? Are people like me not allowed to have a space for free expression?

>at least half of 4chan seems genuinely racist, homophobic, just looking for an excuse to hate minorites

Most boards really aren't that racist, sure, /pol/tards constantly escape from their containment board but most of them are easily identifiable and are told to fuck off
on the boards with a higher average IQ.

The only thing which could be called homophobia is related to terminology (being called a faggot, a tyranny, nigger ect.) but I find it refreshing that there is a place that hasn't been taken over by the language police (yet). This holds true outside of /pol/ only, of course.

>despite having no problems with degenerate behaviour e.g. weird fetishes

How is this a problem? How are those two things related in any way?

>Why does being picked on lead to this sort of view instead of making everyone very empathetic.

Correlation does not equal causation. People on 4chan aren't cynical because they were picked on but because this website is anonymous and everyone here can say anything without any consequence.

Also, this has nothing to do with science.
Now fuck off back to (((Reddit))), you pathetic faggot.

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>>10475260

>> No.10475640

>>10475597
>there's plenty of women that are looking for one night stands on tinder

I'm not looking for one night stands, I despise dating apps for being so shallow, but it gets people laid I guess

>if you're sufficiently autistic where you find relationships too confusing, you might have a difficult time

Maybe that's just how it is. I'm not saying I can't have good relationships, but I'm bound to fuck up the first ones.

>> No.10475646

>>10475640
your first relationships are practice. as with all things you want to get good at, better to start earlier rather than later

>> No.10475679

>>10474983
Please be constructive, why is the poster being so stupid. Your response highlights a wide spread issue, instead of challenging the posters position you simply assert they must be being stupid. Do you know them personally? What evidence other than the post do you have?

The world will be a better place if we didn't resort to passive remarks that do nothing but maybe make you feel better for a brief second. You may very well be in possession of useful knowledge and insight, but instead it is wasted.

>> No.10475869

>>10475400
i think the autism is real.
please expect that anons can't be completley or precisely geniune. unless they have a specific agenda,
then you have to think about how to not be a shill about it.

its not really good to try and figure out exactly who would be behind a post, thats really for FBI and all those investigative agencies. please consider the information only in context of the thread.

>> No.10475872

>>10474956
If only libtards like you could strawman your own viewpoints down to this simplicity, then nothing would trigger you and there wouldn't be an issue.

Fact is, the left in the US strongly criticizes the right without looking at their own deficiencies while the right has done so to the point of cannibalization.

The pendulum has swung though. This new wave of radicals in the right has already caused a schism on the left that will be forced to be looked at in the next two years. Since the left is literally incapable of honestly assessing themselves, I suspect it'll be a grand shitshow to watch.

How long before the left creates too many identity politic terms that it can't ignore its deeply racist roots?

Let's not forget that even through the 60s, dems were the most outspoken against equal rights. Today they preach inclusiveness for minority groups they created. This incongruity is fast catching up to them. I can't wait.

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10475940

>>10475872
Why are you mutts so insufferable with your identity politics? You always think your own side is perfect and the other side are literal demons and never have the self awareness to realise both parties are irredeemably shit

>> No.10475954

>>10474897
>hey nigger
Oh, no offence, nigger.

>> No.10475956

>>10474882
You are gayer than a gay conservative I can tell.

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10475963

>>10475940
Varg is the cutest

>> No.10475977

>>10474904
Convincing hypotheses, anon. I wonder whether there has been quality literature on the topic testing similar ideas.

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>>10474882
>Apologies if there's a psychology board I'm unaware of

Congratulations on not making the mistake of referring to psychology as a "science".

>Lets be honest,

On an anonymous image board

>a lot of people here were bullied/ outcasts growing up, and virgin "losers" now.

"Loser" implies you lose something. What has been "lost" in this case exactly?

>I'd think this would make people depressed (which it does seem to) and empathetic, yet at least half of 4chan seems genuinely racist, homophobic, just looking for an excuse to hate minorites despite having no problems with degenerate behaviour e.g. weird fetishes

Because the internet is serious business. You must act like it's real life at all possible times.

>Pic semi-related, I couldn't find a single crying "Pol" wojak so picked a funny one. No actual unironic hate intended for manlets

Wow, you posted something offensive that you and everybody thought was funny on an anonymous image board. It's almost like that's the reason people do it.


The explanation to 4chans hatred/racism is literally memes. Sorry you don't get the joke.
>>10475252
>If you do well in school they give you actual classes.

Sounds like a shit school.

>> No.10476080

>>10476039
>>If you do well in school they give you actual classes.
>Sounds like a shit school.
Isn't not giving things to people who don't work for it the most republican thing ever tho?

>> No.10476098

>>10475031
liberal mob is totalitarian, perhaps he was not elegant, but fault was his deviation, not any ad hoc characterization. any offense is a firing offense for the regressives, a monocultural firmament has been established.

>> No.10476116

>>10475243
why don't people understand why people say this site is full of smart people who act like retards?
The whole REASON why this is said, is because here you can do/be whoever the fuck you want.
So you can freely depict yourself as something you are not: Entertaining the idea without accepting it, just to start an argument.
This is why this place is known to be a bunch of smart people acting like retards. This is a place where people can speak frankly, they don't have to follow the paradoxical idea "free to obey" the political man in charge, and it's why people like the goddamn site.

>> No.10476117

>>10475940
This is a prime example of what I'm talking about. Most Republicans either like trump or like the rhinos. When Republicans do a bad job, other Republicans call them out.

When someone on the left does something, there's been only solidarity up until now. Look at the headlines from the last few years. Republicans make no big deal about their own black,gay,white,frmale,male candidates.

For the left, the only thing you see are things like "first gay presidential candidate" or "muslims are here to stay" the only people that give a real fuck about identity are the dems and they use it to single out and raise or depose people solely on this identity.

I'd ask you now if you see the hypocrisy in your post but I won't because you use the act you're guilty of in a non sensical way to attack others and stifle discussion.

My question for you then is this:

Does it worry you that biden,pelosi,Schumer, and Warren are now considered moderates in your party?

>> No.10476119

>>10476117
>your party
I know you're not very smart Anon but surely you could've gathered from my original post that I'm NOT fucking American?

>> No.10476120

>>10475872
>Let's not forget that even through the 60s, dems were the most outspoken against equal rights.
False or misleading.

>> No.10476121

>>10475345
You don't have to like racist jokes. That doesn't mean, however, going on a crusade against them is smart. Typically those who do this type of shit are the type tying to hide something of their own.

>> No.10476123

>>10476121
>Typically those who do this type of shit are the type tying to hide something of their own.
[citation needed]

>> No.10476126

>>10476123
this is a well-documented psychological phenomenon.
people who go out of their way to stop such inane things, online no-less, usually have something to hide.

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>>10476080
>Isn't not giving things to people who don't work for it the most republican thing ever tho?

>"We'll make you pay for 12 ounces of soda, but we'll only give you 8 until you finish it. Then you can have the rest. If you don't we get to keep your money and your soda."

Said no business (except universities) ever. Good thing they're dealing with stupid people before they actually receive the education they need to realize this.

>> No.10476128

>>10476119
If you're not American, Chinese, or Russian, and you're in the first world, then you are 100% a liberal. Europeans have been so cucked by liberalism that you don't know what conservative is anymore.

>>10476120
Even through today, libs own the biggest companies in the world despite being anti big business. Dems also the main party supporting slavery. Dems also opposed women voting and de segregation. It was a Democrat that drafted title ix. Dems been doing the same thing for almost 200 years.

>> No.10476129

>>10476126
>this is a well-documented psychological phenomenon.
Then it should be easy for you to provide a citation and we can both be on our way.

>> No.10476130

>>10475152
/Thread

>> No.10476134

>>10476128
Fuck off cleetus, both the "liberal" and "conservative" parties in your country are a joke and are rightfully a laughing stock of the entire rest of the world. Your entire political system is fucked and you're playing right into it like every other sucker with your retarded "us vs them" ultra-polarised shit. You probably base most of your political beliefs over what will "own the libs" the most.

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>>10476128
Capital and liberals are control freaks, eeriely native bedfellows

>> No.10476137

>>10476129
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

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>>10476134
>Fuck off cleetus, both the "liberal" and "conservative" parties in your country are a joke and are rightfully a laughing stock of the entire rest of the world.

>starting an argument by assuming America cares about your country

First mistake

>Your entire political system is fucked and you're playing right into it like every other sucker with your retarded "us vs them" ultra-polarised shit.

Holy shit, you mean like every government on planet earth? Second mistake.

>> No.10476142

>>10475152
>It’s like when Christians used to say they’ve never met a successful atheist
never heard this before but fugg

>> No.10476150

>>10474947
ah yes, because a small percentage of the millions of threads made on this site are made by pathetic losers, everyone on this site is a virgin incel loser. sound logic!

>> No.10476157

>>10476137
You don't seem to understand what a citation is or what I was asking you to cite so I'll spell it out for you real nice.

You said.

>Typically those who do this type of shit are the type tying to hide something of their own.

What I am interested in is how you came to believe that this is typical rather than rare. Does that mean that Democrats actually hate medicare for all and republicans love open borders?

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>>10476141
>starting an argument by assuming America cares about your country
Where did I assume this?
>like every government on planet earth
>every government has only two parties like mine

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>>10476158
>Where did I assume this?

By pointing out that we're a "laughing stock" to the rest of the world. Last time I checked, aircraft carriers don't laugh.

>>10476158
>like every government on planet earth
>every government has only two parties like mine

>them vs us refers to a "party" only paradigm

Go read "the republic" you jackwagon.

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>>10474882

>played a lot of DotA(WC3)
>found dxd inhouse league
>I was usually one of the younger players at the time(like 8th or 9th grade)
>shaped by culture of toxicity and flame
>people on the forum talking about fortune
>eventually learn it is not called fortune or 4chin
>learn about rules
>brought up on meme culture
>over 9000 penises
>see all that the world has to offer
>talk with people all over the world and learn about other cultures
>porn everywhere
>see reality in 3rd world countries(gore)
>learn about stuff they don't/won't teach you in school
>go too far down the rabbit hole
>get anxiety/depression/ptsd

worth it

>> No.10476175

>>10476169
>By pointing out that we're a "laughing stock" to the rest of the world. Last time I checked, aircraft carriers don't laugh.
How does America not caring about other countries mean they can't be seen as a laughing stock by other countries? The two aren't mutually exclusive?

>> No.10476180

>>10476158
>every government has only two parties like mine
The problem is more accurately that most people can't understand a choice that isn't binary.
This isn't unique to burger-land they just don't disguise the problem. I seem to remember a similar thing happening in a former colonial power which will remain nameless where they asked dumb low information voters if they wanted to stay or leave.

>> No.10476183

>>10476157
>What I am interested in is how you came to believe that this is typical rather than rare.
because it's a well-founded cognitive bias, bud.
This isn't controversial.

https://psychology.iresearchnet.com/social-psychology/social-cognition/projection/

>Does that mean that Democrats actually hate medicare for all and republicans love open borders?
I'm saying that the democrats or republicans, which try to make claims based on implied coercion, probably have some skeletons to hide.

>> No.10476186

>>10474921
>Don't get me wrong, there's terrible stuff here on 4chan, but not much has changed in the 15 years or so I've been here.
Yeah no, there was definitely less systematic discussion of race, ethnicity, etc. 10 (or even 5) years ago.
There was always racism and autism but the aggressive /pol/ propaganda on all boards is a relatively new phenomenon.

>> No.10476188

>>10476186
society in general is ramming down our throats that much more than it was 15 years ago
as a reaction to the zeitgeist, nothing has changed

>> No.10476191

>>10476116
Actually I'm just a retard, pretending I am somebody smart who is pretending to be a retard.

>> No.10476198

>>10476183
We both agree that projection is a thing. The part we disagree on is how prevalent it is and how you seem to think that the typical motivating factor for an action is skeletons in closet related.

None of your links do anything more than describe what projection is.

>> No.10476204

>>10476188
>society in general is ramming down our throats
What leads you to believe this?

>> No.10476230

>>10476198
>The part we disagree on is how prevalent it is
dude it's social psychology. there isn't going to be a specific test for what you are specifically asking. That's why it's called a theory. We know it exists, like all other cognitive biases.
>how you seem to think that the typical motivating factor for an action is skeletons in closet related.
I DO think it's a typical motivating factor behind any argument which involves an implied sense of coercion, instead of actual physical coercion.

>> No.10476242

>>10474934
>never in my life met a successful guy who is racist
everybody before the last 3 decades was racist

>> No.10476246

>>10475060
Portland should (i mean every iteration of it since its founding) be leveled, the Earth salted, and all of its residents turned into a slurry and fed to seagulls.

>> No.10476248

>>10476242
I think they meant they never met a person who was successful.

>> No.10476266

>>10475060
4chins was created because paying for SA was lame and moot wanted people to give him free porn.
Also talking about anime and waifus was nice.

>> No.10476312

>>10476134
>I say that liberal agendas are bad therefore I'm a Republican.

I'm a registered Democrat. I vote both ways even though it doesn't matter in my state. I have no real stake in the matter because the us has little control over what is going on. Republicans say stupid shit all the time. Democrats are at least as bad if not worse. The main difference is that for the last 10 years, dems have been the loudest.

Media, including social is being heavily censored in the us. This is a problem. 4chan is one of the last places you can go where both sides exist and you won't be echo chambered out of existence.

The control is so bad I think a lot of people are going overboard with memes and PC incorrect stuff just to be heard out of the liberal white noise echo chambers.

>> No.10476316

>>10476312
>I'm a registered Democrat

lol

>> No.10476333

>>10476316
he's gonna get yang gang through the primaries