/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10439462]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbyc9JW3vtk

Wow, this is really amazing stuff. If you see his websites Marko Rodin has guys like Russ Blake supporting him and even NASA scientists backing the authenticity of this work.

This new form of mathematics could create free energy even. Why arent you brainlets exploring this?

[Anonymous No.10439463]

More sources
http://rexresearch.com/rodin/1-intro.pdf

http://rexresearch.com/rodin/rodin.htm#pdf

he has many real supporters.

[Anonymous No.10439486]

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Vortex-based_math

[Anonymous No.10439487]

>>10439462
>>10439463
Go back to >>>/x/ retard

[Anonymous No.10439503]

draaaain gaaaaang

[Anonymous No.10439506]

>>10439462
>what is Z/9Z
kek quality post OP

[Anonymous No.10440140]

>>10439486
>>10439487
>>10439503

Lol as always no proof. Did you even look at the links? REal scientists write papers supporting this.

[Anonymous No.10440143]

>>10439486
>/rationalwiki

[Anonymous No.10440146]

>>10440143
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.10440153]

>>10439462
the circle is a powerful metaphysical form, but math is math. Vortex-based math works no better than The Secret shit.
The enneagram, on the other hand...

[Anonymous No.10440231]

Still no one here disputing the fact that real scientists are writing papers supporting this

[Anonymous No.10440277]

>>10440153

so yeah. Cabala, Sufi.. this is just the alchemy of early math theory. Just because the math is cool doesn't mean there is an application.

I have to agree though that the enneagram has some interesting exceptions.

If I ask you if you like red or blue, sweet or sour, tall or short, rich or poor, I can create 16 types that are all different. Most personality profiles are just circular definitions - a binary choice creates two sets, and groups of binary choices create groups of sets. So the MBPI doesn't tell you anything new: you were the one that put yourself in those groups.

But the enneagram relates groups by their position in that the types change into some other type depending on level and position. This means there is something other than a simple circular definition.

There is no mystery with the geometry though, anymore than there is a mystery when any mathematical model is used as an analogy. It works because it works, nothing more.

[Anonymous No.10440320]

>>10439462
>circular sudoku man

Just what we need, more math to describe the ineffable. Never once did Marko Rodin explain what a "vortex" is past the stupid math game he made with a circle. "Marko, his original claim was that he had tapped into and could model mathematically a previously unobserved invisible energy".
>modeling something unobserved and invisible
Rofl.

"the motive driving force of reality"
"It moves in a straight line"
"it is undecaying and eternal"
"the symbol of enlightenment"
Which describes literally nothing but a way to calculate human made numbers. What does that have to do with reality?

"A model for sound"
"numbers are harmonics"
"Energy maaaan"

Yet he never, ever, defines "energy" past "oh it can be calculated with my stupid circle"

"you can play with a toroid all day. you're just kidding yourself(unless you use his special one of course)"

Couldn't have fucking said it better myself. Fucking hogwash.

[Anonymous No.10440321]

>Marko Rodin has guys like Russ Blake supporting him and even NASA scientists backing the authenticity of this work.
So I guess you don't need to shill your webpage here anymore.
Cool!

[Anonymous No.10440326]

>>10440140
>prof scot c nelson, plant science
>"I hereby state that some aspects are scientific"
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.10440328]

>>10440320
Oh, it's you. Why are you so fucking verbose? Do you have autism?

[Anonymous No.10440341]

>>10440328
>Oh, it's you
Who me? "Yes you". Couldn't be. Then who?

>Why are you so fucking verbose?
Because I'm quoting someone you brainlet. You are educated right? You know what a "quotation" is?

>Do you have autism?
Do you have dyslexia?

[Anonymous No.10440347]

>>10439462
I made a YT video about it. Do you want to watch it?

[Anonymous No.10440350]

>>10440320

Lol you still havent invalidated the scientists supporting him

[Anonymous No.10440356]

>>10440347
Sure

[Anonymous No.10440359]

>>10440350
>http://rexresearch.com/rodin/rodin.htm#pdf
none of these people are scientists

[Anonymous No.10440375]

[Anonymous No.10440379]

>>10440359
Literally Russel P Blake

[Anonymous No.10440382]

>>10440379
Writing a bunch of useless patents does not make you a sicentist

[Anonymous No.10440400]

>>10440350
>Lol you still haven't invalidated the scientists supporting him

What exactly am I supposed to "invalidate"? Can you answer me that one? I'm not denying that this is some fancy math trick that can be useful for doingmath, I'm saying that "math"and quantifying it still doesn't explain where energy comes from. I've been shown a fancy description of math and nothing else, and that is revolutionary why exactly?

>This guy believes his fancy descriptions are how reality works, yet has no explanations as to how they pertain to reality.
>a bunch of parrots believe him and parrot the same shit
>not a religion

[Anonymous No.10440424]

>>10440382
Russel P Blake was a senior researcher at Microsoft and is actually highly regarded

[Anonymous No.10440430]

>>10440400

These people are real scientists who see how powerful it is and youre just a guy on 4chan

[Anonymous No.10440446]

>>10440424
By whom? Fellow schizophrenics and a "plant scientist" from Hawaii? Is that it? I'm not impressed.

Feel free to name a single prediction that follows from his "theory"

[Anonymous No.10440461]

>>10440446

Lol you didnit even read his other sources, Oscar Hu famous astrophysicist supports him too as well as Russ P Blake. These are real scientsist

[Anonymous No.10440474]

>>10440356
>Sure
https://youtu.be/dpxumLzr9Ck

[Anonymous No.10440508]

>>10440320
>one schizo is jealous of a more successful schizo
*grabs popcorn*

[Anonymous No.10440510]

Autism off the charts. This is flat Earth level shit.
It's just a graph, nigga.

[Anonymous No.10440531]

>>10440430
>more appeal to authority

Wonderful, now can I have an actual explanation or are you going to continue preaching your gospel of numerology? Sorry, no solicitors are allowed at the house of reality so stop waking us up every Saturday morning.

[Anonymous No.10440630]

>>10440531
it's not numerology. the primes fall on the numbers 3 9 6. it's somehow related to the Riemann zeta function

[Anonymous No.10440654]

>>10440630
>it's not numerology.

It is precisely numerology.

>the primes fall on the numbers 3 9 6. it's somehow related to the Riemann zeta function

And? Cool story bro.

[Anonymous No.10440658]

>>10440461
For someone famous it's pretty interesting that I can't find a single thing about him on the internet

[Anonymous No.10440676]

>>10440654
>And? Cool story bro.
only if you knew, it sure is a shame

[Anonymous No.10440681]

>>10440630
Then how home 6 and 9 are composite?

[Anonymous No.10440713]

>>10440676
>only if you knew,

Yeah exactly! If only I knew. If only magical vortex circle could fucking explain how it pertains to reality then maybe I would know. But it doesn't. If it does then:

EXPLAIN
HOW

Fucking numbnuts. "Oh it does math a different way" is not an explanation to ANYTHING that pertains to reality! It quantifies. It tells you how many apples there are, but it doesn't tell you what a fucking apple is. Get it?

[Anonymous No.10440756]

The only person arguing against it is some fag who uses an avatar. Can only imagine the vast intellect behind the screen.

[Anonymous No.10440765]

>>10440531

>muh logical fallacies
The scream of the true virgin.

Fucking gravity it doesnt exist stop appealing to authority by citing scientific research on the topic!

[Anonymous No.10440775]

This is my favorite type of thread, watching schizos fight over nonsense.

[Anonymous No.10440789]

>>10440775
One of them (probably a troll) is arguing in favor actual numerological nonesense, the other is a known faggot who doubts the legitimacy of all science, classical mechanics, elementary calculus, etc. I hate this fucking board. Why can't I leave.

[Anonymous No.10440827]

>>10440756
>The only person arguing against it

I love how you're praising a method to do math yet you can't even count. Am I your self inserted boogeyman now? Do I appear in your dreams too?

>>10440765
>Fucking gravity it doesnt exist stop appealing to authority by citing scientific research on the topic!

We're not talking about gravity currently, we're talking about math. I'm sorry I'm living rent free in your head, but please try and keep on topic. As for "scientific research"...all I see is math. It's not a distinction without a difference, bro.

>we found a way to do math a different way
COOL
STORY
BRO
Now tell me what that actually fucking means.

[Anonymous No.10440929]

>>10439462
Is this nigga doing modular arithmetic?

[Anonymous No.10441020]

Why is this anime faggot arguing in such an ad hominem manner? Like any questioning or demand for you to explain why something is incorrect and you launch into OH WOW FUCK YOURE QUESTIONING ME!? You don’t accept Classical Mechanics? What a major brainlet

No wonder you’re the only person arguing against math this ducking simple and brilliant

[Anonymous No.10441043]

>>10441020
thats just berserkfag. one of the only true schizos on this board. he types paragraphs that clearly look like hes trying to argue with you but its really hard to tell what the fuck he is ever talking about

the first mistake newfags make on this board is arguing with him. he probably imagines himself as a cursed lone swordsman taking on hordes of brainlets every night, and gets a super big woody being a recognized avatarfag, but really just loves taking no clear position, ad hominem, and flagpole moving while denying every viewpoint that is even remotely mainstream

[Anonymous No.10441326]

>>10441020
>Like any questioning or demand for you to explain why something is incorrect and you launch into OH WOW FUCK YOURE QUESTIONING ME!? You don’t accept Classical Mechanics? What a major brainlet

No, I'm asking for an explanation as to how a vortex math pertains to reality. No one here can answer the question, only give me the run around with posts like:
>>10440350
>>10440430
>>10440461
>>10440630
>>10440765
And now you're giving me the run around by putting words in my mouth and trying to change the subject. We're not talking about Classical Mechanics, we're talking about how magical vortex Ro-Dumb coil math pertains to reality and "free energy". Stop being angry at me and at least try and stay on topic.


>No wonder you’re the only person arguing against math this ducking simple and brilliant
Learn to read you dumb nigger. I am not "against math" nor have I ever said anything amount to it.


>>10441043
>this entire butthurt rambling
Absolutely rent free. It even comes with his own imagined up story.

[Anonymous No.10441365]

>>10441326
>absolutely rent free
why would i charge you? your guts-tier stamina and nuclear retardation keep the normies off this board

[Anonymous No.10441408]

>>10441326
>I am not "against math"
I remember one time you were arguing that space and time do not physically exist lmao

[Anonymous No.10441521]

>>10441408
>I remember one time you were arguing that space and time do not physically exist lmao
Because they don't. There is nothing "physical" about them. Space and time have no properties. Things that exist have properties. Why is this hard to understand?

>but they "exist"

As a concept yeah. They have *as much* existence as a leprechaun. There's nothing physical about an idea is there?

[Anonymous No.10441605]

>>10441521

Lol they do exist we can track phenomena happening through them and in relation to them, we can make predictions that account for everything we know about them and we turn out correct when we do brainlet.

Now please explain why vortex math doesn’t work

[Anonymous No.10441608]

Stop trying to flip the burden of proof and explain why vortex math doesn’t work there’s a plethora of videos showing how it works already just find a real problem

[Anonymous No.10441609]

>>10441605
It's rude to torment the autistic, anon

[Anonymous No.10441651]

>>10441605
>Lol they do exist we can track phenomena happening through them and in relation to them
"blah blah blah". Properties, please. One fucking property. You can't do it can you?

>we can make predictions that account for everything we know about them
You know so much, name a property of space and/or time.

>Now please explain why vortex math doesn’t work
Tell me how it "works" to begin with you dumb motherfucker. I wrote it down on a piece of paper and I'm currently still paying an electric bill for starters. I want muh "free energy" and "space propulsion" or whatever bullshit was promised of this stupid fucking donut, but no. All I get is a bald numerologist describing his golden cow.
How many years has he been riding the ol' "369" meme now? 10+? How many rodumb coils does it take to revolutionize the electrical industry? The world may never know...

>>10441608
>Stop trying to flip the burden of proof and explain why vortex math doesn’t work there’s a plethora of videos showing how it works already just find a real problem.
A math trick, so what. Hell teach it to common core kids, it probably works better then whatever backwards ass methods they're using now.

>>10441609
>>>/trash/

[Anonymous No.10441657]

>>10441651
>blah blah blah". Properties, please. One fucking property. You can't do it can you
Space has the property of distance and time the property of duration. Would you like more?

[Anonymous No.10441667]

>>10441657
>Space has the property of distance

"Distance" is a measurement. Measurements don't have properties. The thing measured has the properties. Try again.

>and time the property of duration

Circular reasoning. You just defined time with itself, in one sentence at that.

>Would you like more?

I'll get my popcorn.

[Anonymous No.10441675]

>>10441667
Measurements don't have properties, measurements ARE properties

[Anonymous No.10441682]

>>10441675
>so space is a property

Of what though?

[Anonymous No.10441731]

>>10441667

Holy shit you are actually retarded. You’re done everything that needs to be said is said everything you asked for was given to you.

What an idiot

[Anonymous No.10441767]

>>10441682
Distance is a property of space you scientifically illiterate retard

[Anonymous No.10441768]

>>10441667
>I'll get my popcorn
Time has he additional property that it flows in the direction in which there is an increase of total entropy in the universe

[Anonymous No.10441839]

>>10441731
>You’re done everything that needs to be said is said everything you asked for was given to you

No, someone was ill-informed and thought a measurement has properties. Also things do not define themselves so "time" is still on the table too.

>>10441767
you said here >>10441675 that "measurements are properties". Distance is a measurement, therefore according to you it is a property (unless you think distance is something else, which it isn't). So when you say "distance is a property of space" you're effectively saying "properties are a property of space". Doesn't make sense.
>>10441768
>Time has he additional property that it flows in the direction

Time can flow? Is it like water? Is it a medium? Point to it. Also you still haven't explain how "duration" is a property of time, you haven't even explained how it's not a distinction without a difference. It's a measurement of change and nothing else. Measurements don't have properties.
If I have an "inch" of snow does that make an "inch" exist as something with properties? No, that makes the snow exist. It has the properties such as coldness, softness, wetness, etc.. What property does the "inch" have? It can't have any, because it's a concept.

[Anonymous No.10441857]

>>10441839
imagine typing this much despite having an enormously tiny understand

[Anonymous No.10441865]

Does anyone actually believe this shit? He thinks the numbers 1 to 9 are special because they're single digits, doesn't understand what a radix is.

[Anonymous No.10441872]

>>10441857
S E E T H I N G.
Just name a property and I'll spare you lives
Just name a property I will give you safe passage to reply
Just name a property and there will be an end to the horror.

[Anonymous No.10441883]

>>10441872
Holy shit. This is John-tier shitposting. Did you get out of jail?

[Anonymous No.10441895]

Hey look it works in base 6 as well.
Guess what it means? Fuck all.

[Anonymous No.10441907]

I gotta admire the tenacity of GATTSU, but it's frontier-cringe territory when threads like this persist. I guess it's a nice change of pace from the sadder schizos.

>>10439462
Thanks for reminding me of this guy, last paid any attention to him in like 2007 when I saw a video of him in cutoff jean shorts lecturing a bunch of uncomfortable people with the fervor of a Mormon. His ideas are pretty cool, but he gets some demerits for looking just like my dad and acting like a lunatic sometimes.

[Anonymous No.10442840]

Holly shit it’s like you can tell this anime fag that the sky is blue and he’ll be like “WELL HURR DO YER THINK COLOR IS EVEN A REAL PROVE IT”

What a fucking nigger

[Anonymous No.10443001]

>>10439462
Can someone explain what the fuck this actually is supposed to be or mean? I see it on /x/ all the damn time and have no idea what it's supposed to mean. It SEEMS like someone found an integer sequence and then started using a bunch of extremely vague jargon to make amazing claims about it, which caused a bunch of mathematically illiterate people jump on the band wagon so they could flex their "intelligence" on people.

Can someone link me to an ACTUAL PAPER on the topic?

[Anonymous No.10443017]

>>10443001
>It SEEMS like someone found an integer sequence
they didn't find anything. it's all bullshit, the fact that this isn't immediately obvious to anyone who sees it is very worrisome

[Anonymous No.10443074]

>>10443017
Sorry anon, I've never told anyone this, but I actually don't meet the 9 billion IQ requirement for posting on /sci/. Obviously "vortex math" is bullshit, but the large amount of obfuscation due to ego masturbation makes it difficult for us lowly brainlets to tell exactly what the fuck is going on.

[Anonymous No.10443341]

>>10443001
>>10443074
It's schizophrenia. It's a bunch of sciency sounded stuff but none of it actually means anything

[Anonymous No.10443361]

>>10439486
t. CIA nigger

[Anonymous No.10443367]

>>10439462
>new form of mathematics
>can create free energy
>math
>free energy

Is there something I’m missing here, how do those two things follow? It’s like saying “I found a new species of duck and now we can create free energy guys”, like what

[Anonymous No.10443979]

Lol thes brainless don’t get it. You project the sequence onto a Taurus idots

[Anonymous No.10444078]

>>10443979
much like your mother projects herself onto my dick faggot

[Anonymous No.10444880]

>>10444078

Nigger Ill project my dick accross your face if you talk about my mom

[Anonymous No.10444888]

>>10444880
That would confirm your faggotry.

[Anonymous No.10444898]

>>10444888

That would just confirm youre a big enoug cuckold to be beat into submission by a man who is not only better than you at math but also a man with a superior cock

[Anonymous No.10445006]

>>10444898

He’s right you know

[Anonymous No.10445833]

Still no refutations of this amazing work

[Anonymous No.10445919]

>>10445833
>Still no refutations of dis amazing wurk :^)

It's not proving anything wrong you and what it claims has yet to be proven right. It is literally "not even wrong" tier. Where's my free energy, faggot?

[Anonymous No.10446951]

>>10445919
>berserkfag still here after being btfo
begone brainlet

[Anonymous No.10446955]

>>10445833
you mind showing me all this free energy anon?

[Anonymous No.10447096]

>>10440320
>getting this worked up over wanting proof for quackery

dude it's obviously bullshit because the choice of number base in mathematics is arbitrary and all his patterns are totally reliant on base 10.

which means nothing he is doing will ever have any impact on the rest of mathematics or rest of physics

[Anonymous No.10447450]

>>10443367
>Never read dreams in the witch house
Never going to make it as a mathematician

[Anonymous No.10447570]

OP I wouldnt recommend trying to get something serious going. people will google vortex math, will see the rational wiki and guess what, they wont be rational after that...

just watch this and relax:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxuU8jYkA1k

I'm working around this theory and I have found a few interesting points but I'm not sharing them here because people are not ready yet.

[Anonymous No.10447580]

>>10447096
the choice of number base is NOT arbitrary, you go figure out why yourself but dont spout half assed knowledge

[Anonymous No.10448238]

Okay, so I went ahead and read up on this stuff. Rodin's got at least one actual paper published on the specifics of his mapping, and that mapping can be used to understand some of the ramifications for electrical engineering, but there's basically nothing supporting any of the wacky free energy, healing, propulsion stuff, all the things that don't necessarily make sense and evoke feelings of "bullshit!"

Yes, the 3-6-9 stuff is basically arbitrary and could be whatever numbers, they're only dependent on the number base. From what I can intuit, it looks like Rodin had struck upon a specific wire winding for toroids which happened to make for a pretty sensitive antenna, which may or may not have to do with "harmonic shear" (if anybody can pin down exactly what the hell that means, more power to em), but likely is the result of just simple geometry and electric fields resultant from the spacing of the wire, with or without the spooky number justification. There's no real explanation, since the vortex math community is mostly dumb as hell and will wander off into nonsense territory at the drop of a hat.

There's a little bit of interest here, though. I don't think there's anything like "ooh, numbers are their own entities" going on, though. Wading through that shit makes the whole subject tiring as fuck.

[Anonymous No.10448253]

Oh yeah, by the way energy just isn't ever "free." If a coil can draw current from the Earth's magnetic field, it's come from that. If some magical process could make use of the entirety of the Earth's charge then we would be left without a magnetic field, right?

[Anonymous No.10448305]

>>10447580
You can choose another base and produce a different set of magic numbers for your "vortex based math". It is arbitrary, we just like base 10 because we have 10 fingers.

[None !!eh4jV7uTqjm No.10448309]

>>10447570
keep working. Even if there are no applications, the discovery/invention of new math is it's own reward

[None !!eh4jV7uTqjm No.10448313]

>>10448238
there seem to multiple here: http://rexresearch.com/rodin/rodin.htm#pdf
Is the one you're talking about 2, 3, or 4?
>>10447570
forgot to mention, but that video is truly aesthetic and comfy.

[Anonymous No.10448381]

>>10448309
>Even if there are no applications, the discovery/invention of new math is it's own reward

[Anonymous No.10448406]

>>10441326
>No, I'm asking for an explanation as to how a vortex math pertains to reality.
not that guy but i consume a lot of this shit as a hobby. as far as ive ever been able to tell the idea is that energy on some quantum or sub-quantum level flows around with the same patterns that you observe on the number circle. we haven't be able to properly or efficiently harvest or manipulate that energy because we're using inefficient tools. we're trying to fix a pocket watch with a sledgehammer.

their proposal is that if we design things like motors, electromagnetic coils, antennas, etc. following the design of the number circle in vortex math, they will be far more efficient at their job than any other device, possibly to a point of over-unity.

this mostly amounts to people spending dozens of hours making stupidly complex electromagnet windings in their garage and rattling a ball bearing around when they hook it up to AC power.

[Anonymous No.10448447]

>>10448406
>not that guy but i consume a lot of this shit as a hobby

Me too, I've known of circular Sudoku man for going on 8 years and I know what the Schick is about. I also know that it hasn't amounted to shit which is why I come and ask the question that pin these fuckers to the wall for believing this nonsense.

>the idea is that energy on some quantum or sub-quantum level flows around with the same patterns that you observe on the number circle

Which is absurd because energy is neither numbers nor circles. You move it from where it is to where it isn't and it will only take the path of least resistance because it basically works off pressure mediation.

>this mostly amounts to people spending dozens of hours making stupidly complex electromagnet windings in their garage and rattling a ball bearing around when they hook it up to AC power.

Exactly. Because they could never explain how it's supposed to work from the beginning.

>>10447570
>magical golden ratio in a torus

Someone beat you and Marko to the punch, sorry. He also took the time and bothered to explain a shitload of other things that circular sudoku man will probably never understand.

[Anonymous No.10448556]

>>10448447
a, a fellow connoisseur. i apologize, i thought you were new to this.

[Anonymous No.10449357]

>>10448313
From that list you linked to it seems like only [3] could be considered anything like a peer reviewed journal-published paper, and I'm only point that it there because I haven't looked into the publication. The rest are pretty much junk, no offense intended.

Invisible DNA? Aether? Formalization of numerology? Those just aren't science. I mean, the coil design works, but you can't just say "harmonic shear" without some kind of justifiable observations and testing to back it up. The issue with most of the papers in that list is that there's pretty much zero supporting evidence or procedure to make any of it worth serious inspection. Again, no offense intended.

It's a neat coil, but the math doesn't really justify it. There's more justification in the picture posted with >>10448447.

Without evidence, reason, or justification through legitimate testing, the coil is practically a happy accident.

[Anonymous No.10449502]

>>10443074
272 273 311 108 432
etc

[Anonymous No.10449506]

>>10443074
272 273 311 108 432
etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb0ntMf6p-0
"everything's a circle"

[Anonymous No.10449510]

>>10443074
272 273 311 108 432
etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb0ntMf6p-0
"everything is a circle"

[Anonymous No.10449803]

>>10449510
.
.
.
wut

also are those percentages how far off those figures are?

[Anonymous No.10449829]

>>10449510
Max! when you dispense with the rigors of science you are no longer a mathematician but a numerologist

[Anonymous No.10450156]

nigger

[Anonymous No.10450462]

>>10448447

Energy is literally numbers, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10450722]

>>10441043
Poor guy

[Anonymous No.10451062]

>>10450462
Or, like, it could be mass times acceleration, or mass times a potential acceleration, or the flow of electrons, or the potential flow of electrons. I mean, pick one or any of those, the numbers are just abstract approximations based on countless observations

[Anonymous No.10451157]

>>10448447
>Someone beat you and Marko to the punch, sorry.
Who? Was he the one who made the image you attached?

[Anonymous No.10451401]

>>10450462
>Energy is literally numbers

Lol, I bet you believe it too. I don't plug my computer into a calculator for power, seems kinda redundant if you ask me.

>>10451157
yes

[Anonymous No.10451646]

>>10439462
Wow you discovered geometric series. Kys

[Anonymous No.10452471]

>>10449803
yes.
irrationality exists.
there are no right angles in nature.
it can be approached but never reached.

[Anonymous No.10452994]

>>10452471
Well, that's nonsense. Seriously, science is about pinning down exact relationships, not fuzzy goals which happen to line up with religious ideas.
There's a specific charge for electrons. That charge has nothing to do with memes. There's a specific mass for protons, that mass has nothing to do with memes. Human ideas don't dictate reality.

[Anonymous No.10453003]

>>10452994
>Well, that's nonsense