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10376570 No.10376570 [Reply] [Original]

he would of been a all time great mathematician instead of wasting it on chess

>> No.10376575
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10376575

>does what AlphaZero did in only 4 hours
>can do math
no

>> No.10376596
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10376596

>>10376570
This applies to Magnus as well

>> No.10376730

>>10376570
You're a brainlet yet nobody tells you to not do science...

>> No.10376746
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>>10376570
>>10376575
>>10376596
>>10376730
Fun fact: Chess ability only correlates with IQ by about 0.35 (35%).
Study:
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16942740
If you want to read the whole thing, try Sci-Hub.

>> No.10376856

>>10376746
yet no black man has ever been world chess champion?

>> No.10376864

>>10376856
35% isn't bad, I would imagine the other portion is to do with things like practice (experience) and knowledge of the rules.
Whereas mathematics is something along the lines of 85% correlated with IQ (pretty sure this is from the WAIS-R manual).

>> No.10376894

>>10376596
what has this hack done other than chess?

>> No.10377435

>>10376864
Actually, chess is mostly about memorization and pattern recognition.

>> No.10377443

>>10377435
/thread

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>>10376746
>Fun fact: Chess ability only correlates with IQ by about 0.35 (35%).
Didn't know that, how much do you think mathematical ability correlates?

>> No.10378171

>>10377435
True, I think chess960 would be a better measure of skill than standard chess, as it relies less on pattern recognition and more on raw skill.

>> No.10378202

>>10377642
Math learning ability up to Calculus I has to do more with motivation than intelligence.

>> No.10378209

>>10378202
Math learning after calculus is also more motivation(only consider normal and above)

>> No.10378216

>>10376894
T. Russian Jew

>> No.10378325

>>10377642 see >>10376864.
IIRC: 85% with the WAIS-R, which is one of the most used IQ tests.

>> No.10378340

>>10378325
>Thinking WAIS-R test is legit
fix sources anon

>> No.10378343

Algorithmic thinking is better suited for a pc imo.

Humans excel at cretive problem-solving, that's where PC fail.

>> No.10378367

>>10376596
why is bobby so fucking savage

>> No.10379277

>>10376596
based superiority complex

>> No.10379311
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>>10378340
So, if:
>It is currently in its fourth edition (WAIS-IV) released in 2008 by Pearson, and is the most widely used IQ test, for both adults and older adolescents, in the world.
And, if:
>Psychometricians generally regard IQ tests as having high statistical reliability.[9][56] A high reliability implies that – although test-takers may have varying scores when taking the same test on differing occasions, and although they may have varying scores when taking different IQ tests at the same age – the scores generally agree with one another and across time. Like all statistical quantities, any particular estimate of IQ has an associated standard error that measures uncertainty about the estimate. For modern tests, the standard error of measurement is about three points[citation needed]. Clinical psychologists generally regard IQ scores as having sufficient statistical validity for many clinical purposes.[22][57][58] In a survey of 661 randomly sampled psychologists and educational researchers, published in 1988, Mark Snyderman and Stanley Rothman reported a general consensus supporting the validity of IQ testing. "On the whole, scholars with any expertise in the area of intelligence and intelligence testing (defined very broadly) share a common view of the most important components of intelligence, and are convinced that it can be measured with some degree of accuracy." Almost all respondents picked out abstract reasoning, ability to solve problems and ability to acquire knowledge as the most important elements.[59]
Then, it follows that WAIS-R is perfectly acceptable, and you're just a contrarian.

>> No.10379316

>>10378343
>... that's where PC fail.
I agree with the sentiment, but the terminology is wrong.
>[P]ersonal [C]omputer =/= [M]achine [L]earning

>> No.10379373

>>10376570
Magnus is an autist. If it weren't for chess he'd be a neet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtcjx0EDz3M

>> No.10379381

>>10379373
Lmao, he's so puerile, so much for being magnanimous.

>> No.10379382

>>10376596
Bobby Fischer is literally a god when it comes to Chess, but he's a fucking psychotic idiot when it comes to anything else, so I don't know if this quote is really accurate.

>> No.10379936

>>10379382
Naw. He was pretty woke on the JQ