/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10225166]

Humans are meant to walk/move. Because of this, driving to locations is obviously not as healthy as walking, meaning cities are better to live in for the human body.

But are there any advantages to suburbs? I'm talking actual advantages that are beneficial to humans, not just "oh you get a nice back yard."

Not sure if this is the right board, but I feel like any other board would get into the preference part of it and not the actual science behind which is better.

[Anonymous No.10225176]

>>10225166
OP here. I should also mention that humans are social creatures and thus city living would still be better. I'm still wondering though if there are any objective human advantages to suburban living.

[Anonymous No.10225189]

Better Air quality
Lower noise levels
Lower crime rates
Lower exposure to pathogens due to population density

[Anonymous No.10225191]

>>10225166
Less black people

[Anonymous No.10225197]

>>10225176
Societal yes, but not at the densities of cities. It is thought that above roughly 100 people per community starts breeding "cheating" behavior.

[Anonymous No.10225210]

>>10225191
*fewer* you dumb nigger

[Anonymous No.10225215]

>>10225210
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.10225270]

Observe the car dependent when they disembark at a parking lot. They are all spiritless, fat, and uncoordinated human beings.

[Anonymous No.10225274]

>>10225189
>getting sick because of population density
you are weak

[Anonymous No.10225280]

>>10225166
>"oh you get a nice back yard."
Living space is an actual advantage. Even rural houses where working class red necks live are of similar size to apartments. I come from one of the poorest rural areas in my state and I’m living in one of the richest cities.

[Anonymous No.10225282]

>>10225270
Stay mad, poor kid

[Anonymous No.10225284]

>>10225189
>Better Air quality

Can be only marginally better; can easily be worse (blows overhead)

>Lower noise levels

OF some kinds. Where I live there are a lot of annoying weed whackers, lawn mowers and bloweres operating every freaking day, they are the worst.

>Lower crime rates

Higher white collar crime but fewer downsides for

>Lower exposure to pathogens due to population density

[Anonymous No.10225287]

>>10225166
Cars are the problem, not suburbs. In fact, technology in general is problem.

[Anonymous No.10225289]

>>10225282

Seriously watch the parking lot, these people move like they are crippled. Which is exactly what you expect when you realize they spend most of their life in a padded chair of some kind

[Anonymous No.10225293]

>>10225287

The key to Ted's focus was removing all windows.

[Anonymous No.10225297]

>>10225270
>drive to work sitting
>work sitting
>drive home sitting
>watch TV sitting
Never tried it because I thought it would kill me.

[Anonymous No.10225299]

>>10225284
>>Better Air quality
>Can be only marginally better; can easily be worse (blows overhead)

Living in a city takes 3-10 years off your life.

[Anonymous No.10225300]

>>10225287
Why would I want to live in a shed with no light, when I can make my live easier with technology? checkmate

[Anonymous No.10225308]

>>10225300

Ted's eyes adjusted to low light conditions obv

[Anonymous No.10225359]

>>10225284
>Higher white collar crime but fewer downsides for
Your neighbor embezzling from work has zero effect on your quality of life

[Anonymous No.10225362]

>>10225274
Whoa we got a badass over here.

[Anonymous No.10225406]

DUDE i just LOVE the hustle and bustle of the big city, it's so DYNAMIC and makes me feel like i'm in one of my favorite TV SHOWS. you should totally come on down to my studio apartment, it's got EXPOSED RED BRICK walls and everything, we can crack open a nice hoppy ipa or three and get crazy watching some cartoons on adult swim! and dude, dude, DUDE, we have GOTTA go down to the barcade- listen here, right, it's a BAR where us ADULTS who do ADULTING can go DRINK. BUT!!!! it's also an ARCADE like when we were kids, so we can play awesome VIDEO GAMES, without dumb kids bothering us. speaking of which megan and i have finally decided to tie the knot- literally -we're both getting snipped tomorrow at the hospital, that way we can save money to spent more on ourselves and our FURBABIES. i'm fuckin JACKED man, i'm gonna SLAM this craft beer and pop open another one!!!

[Anonymous No.10225431]

>>10225176
In the suburbs its normal to know all the neighbors on your street, have block parties, etc. and a strong sense of community (assuming your 'burb is mostly racially homogeneous).
In a dense city, most people don't even speak to their neighbors and barely know what they look like.

[Anonymous No.10225458]

>>10225406
You sound incredibly jealous.

[Anonymous No.10225461]

>>10225458
Why are /sci/ posters the worst at identifying sarcasm/jokes
I notice many reply serioisly to obvious joke threads involving "needing to learn x in y time. Am i fucked??"

[Anonymous No.10225491]

>>10225461
If I didn't think it was sarcasm I would be telling him he enjoys his city life a bit too much. I recognize the sarcasm, but you're telling me the sarcasm itself is sarcastic? Sorry, but that's some real autism that I can't keep up with.

[Anonymous No.10225495]

>>10225491
Why are /sci/ posters the worst at identifying sarcasm/jokes
I notice many reply serioisly to obvious joke threads involving "needing to learn x in y time. Am i fucked??"

[Anonymous No.10226170]

>>10225166
I am creeped a little by suburbs like that in pic, they are pretty much non existant in my country and feel too artificial and repetitive.

[Anonymous No.10226495]

>>10225166
Less polution
Less criminaly predisposed people imported from the tropics

[Anonymous No.10226532]

>>10225166
Cities are just an artifact of limited resources and techology, almost nobody actually WANTS to live like that. The future belongs to beautiful and quiet suburbs connected directly to city centers by fast underground transit.

[Anonymous No.10226678]

>>10226170
Not all suburbs are planned communities even though they're definitely going that way and not all planned communities are those uniform monstrosities.
But since america has a car culture it means no one objects at commutes and it's seen as perfectly normal.

[Anonymous No.10226726]

>>10226532
As population density increases, there is greater variance in lifestyles, etc. Cities are fundamentally more efficient than less dense areas, so people who are have unusual lifestyles and desire are more productive, leading to even more efficiency for those who are among the norm. Most everyone in those scenarios leads to a more productive and self-fulfilling state. The more effective state of outliers though dose pre-dispose some normal people to higher stress levels. Basically you transfer some stress from outliers into the center. It's not surprising there's greater risk of mental illness, by both improving the conditions of naturally at-risk people, and creating a scenario where there's more room for competition and greater disparity across the board.

tl;dr I want to live like that. I have a 26+ hour cycle and I use 24-hour stores and laundromats. I'm also a BS in Electrical Engineering. I am a product of human deviancy given some chance to excel.

[Anonymous No.10226752]

>>10225176
how do i stop the homeless crack head from asking me for money? Thats not a social event I want to be part of, unless its legal to beat them up.

[Tuba Jam !!+Q/vU207C0N No.10226804]

>>10225166
fewer heavy metals. more socialization with the same people. safer.

[Anonymous No.10226835]

>>10225166
I live in the suburbs and I walk 3 blocks to the library every day. Sometimes I run instead of walk and sometimes I make two or three round trips.

I've even walked and ran four miles to a library from a neighboring suburb. Again, double that distance for the return trip. Therefore, one can be athletic in the suburbs if they choose to.

Before going to the library, I use to run laps on a hill. Not quite as fun as running 18 floors up a skyscraper, which I did in the city, but is sufficient exercise to prevent a heart attack.

I live in the state with the second most public parks. Plenty of places to run. Both the city and suburbs have plenty of parks. The main difference is that parks in the city have more people.

Lastly, as far as I know, there aren't any suburbs with parks that have a table that doubles as a chess board. This contrast is part of the broader contrast of cities being more social than suburbs. The extensive usage of cars in suburbs is perhaps the most anti-social behavior of all.

[Anonymous No.10227060]

>>10225166
Suburbs are an American invention due to niggers being forced into the cities during (((integration))). They’re entirely impractical outside of the racial conditions of the United States.

[Anonymous No.10227079]

>>10225495
I like where this joke went

[Anonymous No.10227097]

>>10225166
Lower air toxicity.

Better mental health from seeing nature (being in the woods for some time is proven to lower heartrate + stress)

Different social dynamics, for kids especially

[Anonymous No.10227110]

>>10226752
Protip; you don't. You ignore. Tourists think it's mean & cold. Locals know that same guy asked them for money every day this week and every day he hadn't eaten in 3 days or needed $0.63 for the bus so you'll take all your money out. It's a big scam, most of them aren't starving and could make it but don't want to.

[Anonymous No.10227446]

>>10227110
Where I am they usually have pan handlers at busy intersections. One guy who posts up near my work just has a sign that says "I'm going to spend this money on beer."
I usually toss him some change just because I can respect that honesty.

[Anonymous No.10227504]

>>10225176
>more people means we have better social development
Kindergarten-tier logic

[Anonymous No.10228218]

Humans are poorly adapted to living in large cities; for the vast bulk of human history (outside the relatively brief time between the invention of modern sanitation & reliable birth control) cities have been population sinks, with more people dying in them than being born.

Cities need a constant inflow of people from more rural areas to maintain their population. In the past, this was caused by the high disease rates in cities; today living conditions in cities make people want few kids, which reliable birth control enables.

Suburbs to me strike a reasonable compromise between the economic benefits of living in/near a city, while still allowing for sustainable birthrates. All the fancy walkable cities in the world are pretty pointless if your society ends up with unsustainably low birth rates.

[Anonymous No.10228229]

>>10225284
You're right, but I'd much prefer the crime in my neighborhood being tax evasion than a bunch of gangbangers fighting over a gram of coke

[Anonymous No.10228333]

>>10225166
Not having to carefully avoid dog/human feces at every step is a pretty big advantage to living in the suburbs.

[Anonymous No.10228594]

>>10228218
>basically the whole world, short of sub-saharan africa will go below replacement level birth rates in the next 20 years
>mfw total world birth rate is below 2.4
Are you fucking kidding me?

[Anonymous No.10228599]

>>10225284
>OF some kinds. Where I live there are a lot of annoying weed whackers, lawn mowers and bloweres operating every freaking day, they are the worst.
can't believe you found a way to write this sentence

[Anonymous No.10228619]

>>10228594
Yep, crazy isn't it? And urbanization is one of the major drivers of this shift. Now, of course I know that the total population on Earth can't grow forever, and that for quality of life reasons stopping it where it is, or even letting it decline a bit in densely populated countries may be ideal.

So I think replacement level should be the goal, and should be accounted for when urban planning is being done. Any society that doesn't replace itself will be replaced by another, but too high of a population growth causes its own issues, in trying to build up infrastructure and source food & water.

[Anonymous No.10228626]

>>10225166
Daily reminder that constant exposure to electromagnetic radiation is the number 1 factor of drastically reduced sperm quality of modern day western males (Other factors are naturally xenoestrogens in foods and plastics and inactive lifestyles). This effect has been tested with rats in controlled environment with radiation levels equivalent to transmitting cellphone at 1 meter distance. Close proximity to wi-fi hotspots is even worse and 5G is something that should never happen.

Exposure to electromagnetic fields also always results in oxidative stress and there are a plethora of studies how oxidative stress affects your health.

Living in a city is the dumbest thing you can do. If you have to live in a suburb, paint your house with electromagnetic shielding paint and ground it. Also dont use "smart phones" and keep wireless devices to absolute minimum.