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Dear fellow omni/sci/entists,
In this thread we foster an everlasting general for precious charts; to siphon our knowledge, and assimilate our sensibilities to the utterly confused.

Picture related is the Genesis.

>Archives:
https://mega.nz/#F!aHAzSQCZ!J55UJ5_pYU5D22aB2y2v4g

>> No.10170812

>Official Community:
https://discord.gg/8KzwU6z

>> No.10171326

>>10170800
bump for interest!

>> No.10171330

>>10170800
bad list... Why not learn classical mechanics well since the beginning: start with landau and lifshitz, go all the way to gravitation by thorne and wheeler, and beyond.

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>>10171326

>> No.10171600

>>10170800
Why the townsend book?
We use Griffiths, it's decent but probably missing stuff
My professor still likes Baym's book

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>>10170800

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I'm going to ask here quickly because /adv/ isn't much help.

As a neet loser for 5 years how do I get back into learning about science, math (and more) without a structured environment in place? I am autistic and have difficulty knowing where to start or how to navigate resources without structure.

Issue is I also have very bad mental health that makes taking actual courses not really viable.

>> No.10172295

>>10170800
ad infinitum

>> No.10172445

>>10172292
what's your goal? For fun? PhD? Academia job?

>> No.10172475

>>10172445
For not suffering the rest of my life as a retard that does nothing and has accomplished nothing. Maybe one day I get mentally well and makes something of my life, taking care of my mind would help that, I take care of my body now and that helps.

So yeah, fun I guess.

>> No.10172480

>>10172266
even as an (((engineer))) my sides go into orbit every time I see this one

>> No.10172514

>>10172480
>engineer

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>> No.10172546

>>10170800
Where tf does one takes his comments about this list. It has several flaws IMO :
Basics :
>Feynman, Leighton and Sands should be an alternative or a complement to the basics, to read in order to develop an intuition about the physics and thus facilitate the comprehension of the maths
>Statistical & Thermal physics should follow a primer in thermodynamics
>Maybe a SR book shall help
Intro:
>Hartle is more adapted than Schutz
>Where is Atomic/nuclear physics and spectroscopy ? Where are Analytical mechanics ? Where are continuous media mechanics and fluids mechanics ? These topics cannot be properly covered only by Taylor and Townsend. How about some general introduction to advanced topics ? How about some laser/plasma physics ?
Moving on :
Since we are in the 'reference book tier'
>Where is MTW ?
>Where is Aschcroft and Mermin or Kittel ?
>Schwabl is really hard to read, especially if you have not read the quantum mechanics beforehand. I don't know an equivalent but easier to read book but Schwabl shouldn't be used to study
>shouldn't it be useful to propose some maths/programming/physical chemistry reference to consolidate the knowledge ?
Advanced:
>best way to start QFT is Lancaster and Blundell, deal with it. Feymann is good though.
>Wald it is. But if MTW has already been read Wald can be skipped directly to Hawking and Ellis
>Landau-Lifschitz books (or easier to read equivalent reading) become mandatory in this level
Advanced:
>Ok but how about all the Weinberg (QFT, gravitation,...) ?

>> No.10172597

>>10172532
>it's an infograph now
At least it's not taking up much space anymore

>> No.10172631

>>10172546
>Feynman, Leighton and Sands should be an alternative or a complement to the basics

The Feynman Lectures on Physics are a fucking meme and not a replacement for undergrad level physics.

>> No.10172634

>>10172546
Alternatives and elective material doesn't really fit the infographic style. The recommendation page is better for that:
https://4chan-science.wikia.com/wiki/Physics_Textbook_Recommendations

>> No.10172790

>>10170800
>nothing on error analysis
So you basically just want to learn a ton of shit people have discovered in the past without gaining the ability to actually test the most simple of hypotheses in practice.
>no mathematical prerequisites
You don't have to include a list of math books, but at least list which topics you should be familiar in order to understand a book.

>> No.10173095

>>10172292
simply check this thread and the prior ones

>> No.10173111

>>10170800
>not BIG Infographics General
Disliked, unsubscribed, banned from the GNU and Wine communities.

>> No.10173166

>>10173111
/g/ay

>> No.10173185

Is there a Scientific computations chart?

>> No.10173196

>>10170800
>Solid state before statistical

What?

>> No.10173870

>>10173185
make one

>> No.10173949

>>10172475
Then follow 'fail safe' and 'basic' in >>10172248 is a solid choice. After that, skim through as many subjects as you can, see what you like and learn that subject. Or if you want to start right now, (elementary) number theory is fun and you don't have to know much before. "An introduction to the theory of numbers" by G.H Hardy and E.M. Wright is my favorite.

>> No.10174303

>>10172532
Thank you for condensing it into one image instead of spamming every thread with 9 full length posts

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>>10172532 >>10172597 >>10174303

A picture is worth a thousand words

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_picture_is_worth_a_thousand_words

>> No.10174424

>>10170800

Does anyanon have something of this sort (book infographic) for biological studies? Anything will be absolutely great.

>> No.10174524

>>10174308
no clrs?

>> No.10174850

There was a math infographic that started with a couple books on proofs and logic. Anyone have that one?

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>>10174850

>> No.10175153

>>10174891
Exactly, thank you

>> No.10175562

>>10174891
wew, nice meme

>> No.10175607

>>10172532
who is the idiot who spams these? i have russian mathematician friends and this list is complete bs

>> No.10176204

>>10175607
kek

>> No.10176291

>>10174891
is this good?

>> No.10176835

Please dump all you have on HS math

>> No.10176866

>>10175607
>>10172532


Wtf is this? Shit that is recommended to read by year or is this something Russians supposedly read?

>> No.10176970

>>10176291
No. You only need >>10172248.I starts from a very basic math level to more "advanced" topics. The other image is a brain rot meme

>> No.10177574

>>10176291 >>10176970

>>10174891 books are all freshman level

while:

>>10172248 books range from freshman to Graduate level

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I'll be dropping some stuff I've accumulated on sci

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>>10177624

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>>10177629

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>>10177634

>> No.10177699

>>10177624
ur a god

>> No.10177738

>>10176970
>brain rot meme
How so? I made the guide, and while now I would probably choose to drop, or at least make optional, Logic by Smith, I feel the rest of it accomplishes what I set out to do. Create a study guide with a foundational approach, while having some overlap in between each book.

There's already a bunch of study guides, but stuff like this:
>>10172248
is awful, or at least misusing the name. The whole point of my guide was to try and approach the subject in a different order, that's why Basic Mathematics comes after Foundations of Analysis, something that would never happen traditionally.

I'm also aware that the books are freshman level, that's the point. I didn't want to make a complete 3 year study guide, especially considering you can branch out a lot more after Spivak. You can go to Baby Rudin, start with Linear Algebra, dip into abstract algebra, etc.

>> No.10178304

>>10177624
thanks, bruv

>> No.10179303

>>10178304
kek

>> No.10179306

>>10171330
Weird way to say geometry.

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>> No.10179617

>>10172248
>Conway
into the trash it goes

>> No.10180166

Requesting one of these for biology

>> No.10180300

>>10180166
why not making one?!

>> No.10180382

>>10174308
kek, then you realize that you know everything to code numerical solutions except numerical analysis itself...

>> No.10180586

>>10172266
Autism reporting for duty

>> No.10181305

>>10172480
>my sides

>> No.10181327

>>10180166
I won't make you a thing but I suggest whatever the best practices books and problems are for the following subjects:

>Statistics (most emportent)
>Intro biology (probably not really necessary but if you need a quick introduction to these topics it will be good)
>Genetics
>Cellular biology
>Molecular biology
>More statistics
>Organic chem and biochem
>Study design
>Evolution
>Books related to your interest

>> No.10181341

>wake up feeling good
>open math book
>try to do exercises
>cant do the proofs
>feel like a giant idiot
>dont feel good anymore
>go back to sleep

>> No.10181345

>>10181341
I know how you feel, that's why I'm gonna start reading books about proof.

>> No.10181370

>>10172480
>engimeme

>> No.10181372

>>10181370
What is your profession anon?

>> No.10182379

>>10172292
I started with something basic: my desire to serve my country, and their requirement for all service members to score well on their intelligence test. This exam, the ASVAB, evaluates you on your understanding of English and Math, as well as Science, and Mechanics (to a lesser degree) from a High School level.

>> No.10183827

>>10174891
I'm curious, are these advanced level math books required to go through a physics major?

I always assumed you'd need nothing more than applied versions of say calc/differentials/linear algebra. Or should I take the more abstract/proof heavy mathematics?

>> No.10183902

>>10183827
>advanced level
none of >>10174891 books are advanced
Apostol & Spivak are mere Freshman Calculus books
the other books are Pre-Calculus level.

>> No.10183923

>>10183902
I meant for anyone majoring physics. do they require rigorous math courses that a pure math major would take for instance.

>> No.10183930

>>10183902
Except for set theory.
>>10183923
>I meant for anyone majoring physics. do they require rigorous math courses that a pure math major would take for instance.
What

>> No.10183934

>>10183930
why apostol's calculus and not stewarts for example?

>> No.10184172

>>10183930
>Except for set theory.
No.

>> No.10184200

Where can I download these books in PDF?

>> No.10184204

>>10184200
gen.lib.rus.ec
rutracker
google for pdf's

>> No.10184666

>>10183930
>Naive set theory.

>Naive
>Advanced

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Alright guys I made one, please be nice.

>> No.10184894

>>10184697
god

>> No.10185564

>>10184200
ask ur mom

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>>10184200
libgen.io

>> No.10185715

>>10179599
Why are these onions?

>> No.10185725

>>10185715
Onions*

>> No.10185739

>>10185725
Fuxkb

>> No.10185747

>>10185715
>>10185725
[math]s o y[/math]

>> No.10185763

Let's say I graduated from a computer science program that's just as rigorous as /sci/ likes to poke fun at.
Let's also say I'll be starting a PhD program in the fall and between now and then I'd like to really brush up on math.
I was thinking Lang's Basic Mathematics, then Apostol's Calculus vol i and ii, then Linear Algebra? Axler's book says it's for a second course and while I had a course in undergraduate I don't really remember anything. Should I do Halmos then Axler, or just one of them?

>> No.10186420

>>10185715
12 rules for life is ultimate basedcore

>> No.10186422

>>10186420
>>10185715
>basedcore
fuck meant

[math] s o y [/math]

>> No.10186431

>>10184697
We should make more of these. Specific reading list are far superior to general ones

Nice work anon.

>> No.10186464

>>10185763
>stop making fun of cs majors for being bad at math
>also, help me with this middle school level math i need for a phd

>> No.10186805

There sure is a lot of foundational stuff here, but what do I /need/ to read, I'm on time constraints here.

>> No.10186873

Not sure if I should start a thread on this but is there a chart/guide to things like ecology and environmental science?

Its so serious but Im overwhelmed by the complexity and politics of it all

>> No.10187256

>>10177634
>Putting the Bible next to textbooks
Why are you like this?

>> No.10187499

>>10187256
Yeah, they should have enlightened atheist readings like harry potter.

>> No.10187915

Larson>Stewart

Rigor a shit

>> No.10188021

>>10172248
Are those fail safes freshman level? Can I go from there if I don't know high school maths

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I can't wait to get learned but I'm so busy right now. Soon.

>> No.10188026

>>10188021
Seconding

>> No.10188875

Would anyone happen to have one for finance/economics

>> No.10188938

>>10174891
>>10185675


GUYS I NEED HELP.
I need Principles of Mathematics 3rd edition by Allendoerfer. but I can NOT found it on libgen. pllllllllz I need it.

>> No.10189028

>>10188938
>Allendoerfer
2nd edition:
http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=F5EDEC8B3652946979AD0D5C35841FF9

>> No.10189038

>>10170812
what community is this?

>> No.10189042

chemistry or biology chart?

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>>10188021
>Are those fail safes freshman level?
Yes.

> Can I go from there if I don't know high school maths
No.

1st Learn high school maths at:
www.khanacademy.org

>> No.10189066

>>10189053
I don't really like Khan Academy. What books can I read as an alternative?
Is >>10177629 good?

>> No.10189088 [DELETED] 

>>10189066

good enough

>>10177629's 1st row is high school level. Serge Lang is Pre-Calculus.

...
Although I would never recommend Stewart for Calculus. Stewart sucks.

>> No.10189090

>>10189066 good enough

>>10177629's 1st row is high school level. Serge Lang is Pre-Calculus.
>Although I won't recommend Stewart's Calculus since it sucks.

>> No.10189092

>>10183923
yes you fucking retard
>>10185763
>i need to brush up on hs senior level math for my CS PhD
lol

>> No.10189101

>>10189092
It's one thing to act like a smug nigger but you should at least try to be correct when you do :/

>> No.10189102

>>10189090
Lang is garbage you won’t do well in a college level calc course if you read that shit even if rigorously

>> No.10189108

>>10189090
>>10189102
so what would you recommend?

>> No.10189111

>>10189108
Stewart’s precalculus

>> No.10189118

Recommendation for spatial statistics? Taking it next semester and want to get ahead

>> No.10189120 [DELETED] 

>>10185763
>I need to review retarded level high school math for my CS PhD
Lol. Are you joking/larping right?

>> No.10189128

>>10189108
but you just said you wouldn't recommend him? or is that just for the calculus book

>> No.10189141

>>10189128
>>10189111
quoted myself on accident

>> No.10189144

>>10189128

>>10189111 post was made by another person

In my opinion Stewart sucks.
But Everybody has their own opinion.

>> No.10189672

>>10189144
Why is shit in your opinion anon?

>> No.10190773

>>10189144
so tell us plz

>> No.10191224

>>10177629
Why is Apostolos removed from this version of the chart?

>> No.10192534

>>10189028
I am looking for 3rd edition
Is it available?