/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10150641]

Stopping ageing is mathematically impossible. You hear that transhuman fags?

Check out this article:
https://www.newsweek.com/live-longer-stop-aging-process-mathematically-impossible-697003%3famp=1

Entrophy is the master of us all.

[Anonymous No.10150714]

>>10150641
>Entrophy
As long as you can get energy from outside the system, then the internal system is sustainable. So immortality is impossible, because it ends at the heat death of the universe. Though compared to a 100 year old human lifespan, lasting to heat death is close enough to immortality to not matter.

[Anonymous No.10150721]

>>10150714
It would be kind of comfy to just sit there and wait for heat death with a bunch of mates

[Anonymous No.10150723]

>>10150641
>newsweek

[Anonymous No.10150731]

>>10150721
>a bunch of mates
You would cannabalize each other and the first to die among you is the luckiest

[Anonymous No.10150733]

Aubrey de grey proposes a repair methodology instead of solving the underlying cause of aging.

http://www.sens.org/research/introduction-to-sens-research

Aging is the only problem that matters. Why wouldn't you at least try to solve it?

[Anonymous No.10150766]

>>10150733
>Aging is the only problem that matters.

No it isn't. Humanity was close to destroy itself in a nuclear war not too long ago and now, thanks to the evil orange man, we are again close to a nuclear war.

What's the point of being immortal when all the bad people also get to enjoy it too?

[Anonymous No.10150820]

>>10150641

Do you know why etymology is lethal to everything?

Once something is described, it can be encapsulated, studied and overcome. It dies. Control the word and one controls the thing.

Guess what, death is pretty damn well defined.

Our quest for eternity resides firmly in the realms of the possible. The "im-" at the front of impossible is a strong curse, but a breakable one.

It is impossible that man should ever fly as free as a bird.
It is impossible that man should step on the moon.
It is impossible that-
It was...

Just like the stories of Nicholas Flammel in his search for eternal life in the physical plane.

Just as the search for eternity in the spiritual.
As above, so below, we will prevail in the physical.

Even the end has an end, and what is the end of an end if not a new beginning?

[Anonymous No.10150823]

>>10150766
>I’d sink the whole ship just to kill the captain

Get out of here you beta cuck. The President met with North Korea you retard so no it’s not thanks to him.
#HappyPunchALiberalDay

[Anonymous No.10150825]

age is a social construct

[Anonymous No.10150832]

>>10150733
>>10150766
faggots

[Anonymous No.10150843]

>>10150641
>And yet, there remains time to create, to create, and escape.

Basement Universe
Reversible computation
Dysonic Universe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMJNta-okRw

[Anonymous No.10152405]

[Anonymous No.10152518]

Maybe according to current knowledge, it's impossible. But who knows, in the future, it could be discovered

[Anonymous No.10152563]

>>10152518
No such thing as death

[Anonymous No.10152588]

>>10150733

[Anonymous No.10152599]

>>10150641
>This problem means that multicellular organisms will age even if scientists manage to make cellular selection perfect. "As you age, most of your cells are ratcheting down and losing function, and they stop growing, as well, but some of your cells are growing like crazy,” Nelson said. “What we show is that this forms a double bind—a catch-22.”
>By getting rid of the poorly functioning cells, cancer cells are able to proliferate better. This means that instead of aging at a slow rate, a person could just get cancer and die instead.

This is a stupid argument. All this means is that we need a mechanism to get rid of poorly functioning cells, and another mechanism to get rid of cancer cells. For instance, we could use the methods described in the article to get rid of nonfunctioning cells, and use something like sophisticated nanotechnology to get rid of cancerous cells. The writers of the article are brainlets who think that just because they don't know how to solve something it means it's impossible.

[Anonymous No.10152770]

>>10152599
If anything, cancer could be a (failed so far) nature's attempt at immortality. Maybe one day some random mutation stops it from going completely haywire and it only keeps regenerating old cells infinitely

[Anonymous No.10152946]

>>10152599
You just gave me an idea.

[Anonymous No.10153103]

nooooo

[Anonymous No.10154240]

yessss

[Anonymous No.10154286]

>>10152770
>tfw the future of humanity is to become cancer

[Anonymous No.10154340]

>>10150641
Kindly go to be retarded somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.10154598]

>>10150641
very true

[Anonymous No.10155027]

I fell for some PopSci meme that claims cells eventually lose their ability to divide over the course of an organism's life, and that preventing this would keep said organism from aging, at least in aspects excluding brain function.
Can someone explain to me, assuming it would be technologically possible, why this is or isn't a workable solution?

[Anonymous No.10156456]

>>10155027
Aging and death has been at the core of evolution for so long and worked so well until the (relatively) very recent advent of intelligence that undoing it is bound to be rather tricky

[Anonymous No.10156517]

>>10150641
It is just the counting of representations over time with a finite state counter that is infinitely repair/replace/renew-able

[Anonymous No.10157728]

>>10155027
cool

[Anonymous No.10157734]

>>10150820
Did you have anything meaningful or insightful to say instead of sounding like a massive pseud megaphoning nonsense whilst standing atop an eggcrate?