Climate change is due to the axial precession that has a period of 26k years Prove me wrong

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Anonymous Thu Oct 18 01:56:28 2018 No.10078755 [Reply] [Original]

Climate change is due to the axial precession that has a period of 26k years

Prove me wrong

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 18 01:57:05 2018 No.10078757 >>10078755 Don't have to you've offered no proof of your claims at all.

Anonymous Thu Oct 18 01:58:38 2018 No.10078760

milankovitch cycles are one of many components of climate change. While they are an important forcing factor, current CO2 depositing into the atmosphere, and ocean changes, are more critical to ongoing climate shift.

Remember, CO2 residence time is over 100 years.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 18 02:46:18 2018 No.10078817 File: 48 KB, 512x576, Earth_axial_precession.svg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10078760 >milankovitch cycles are one of many components of climate change they ARE climate change

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 18 03:41:30 2018 No.10078861 >>10078817 No. It can be quite easily shown that the forcing due to the cycles is less than 0.5W/m2.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 18 05:40:37 2018 No.10078968 >>10078755 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztninkgZ0ws

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 18 05:41:53 2018 No.10078971 Climate change is due to OP's faggotry. Prove me wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 18 05:45:46 2018 No.10078977 >>10078755 Only things that exist can be due to something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 18 05:49:17 2018 No.10078983 Theres a PragerU video that explains all you need to know about climate change. TL;DR it's made up bullcrap by liberals who hate capitalism and want to punish America.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 18 06:00:19 2018 No.10078994 >>10078755 Does change the most important fact, there is enough heat in air to power humanity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 18 06:02:26 2018 No.10078996 >>10078983 >TL;DR it's made up bullcrap by liberals who hate capitalism and want to punish America. That explains the video but what about Climate Change?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 18 07:17:06 2018 No.10079098 >>10078755 I can't you're right.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 18 15:53:37 2018 No.10079848 >>10078755 >Prove me wrong Prove yourself right

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 18 21:05:08 2018 No.10080293 >>10078755 The only thing that changes due to precession is a different set of constellations for the seasons. That's it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 18 21:31:19 2018 No.10080313 >>10078755 prior climate change? yes current climate change? no

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 18 21:50:55 2018 No.10080338 >>10078755 >Climate change is due to the axial precession that has a period of 26k years ... Yes, and WHEN is the CURRENT period supposed to end?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 19 04:17:12 2018 No.10080714 >>10078983 >PragerU PragerU videos are amazing. I love the way they always start out seeming like professional PR videos and slowly drift into batshit insanity.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 19 07:13:22 2018 No.10080860 >>10078983 >liberals who hate capitalism Lrn2capitalism, corporate bootlicker

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 19 10:53:18 2018 No.10081297 File: 9 KB, 263x192, no.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10078755 >Prove me wrong

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 19 11:11:00 2018 No.10081331 >>10078983 liberals LOVE capitalism. youre thinking leftists

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 19 11:21:43 2018 No.10081345 >>10081297 >prove me wrong >that's the wrong part of the OP

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 19 14:33:51 2018 No.10081744 >>10078861 Thats quite a lot

Anonymous Fri Oct 19 14:58:54 2018 No.10081793
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>>10078755
http://cdiac.ess-dive.lbl.gov/trends/co2/vostok.html
>In January 1998, the collaborative ice-drilling project between Russia, the United States, and France at the Russian Vostok station in East Antarctica yielded the deepest ice core ever recovered, reaching a depth of 3,623 m (Petit et al. 1997, 1999). Ice cores are unique with their entrapped air inclusions enabling direct records of past changes in atmospheric trace-gas composition

>According to Barnola et al. (1991) and Petit et al. (1999) these measurements indicate that, at the beginning of the deglaciations, the CO2 increase either was in phase or lagged by less than ~1000 years with respect to the Antarctic temperature, whereas it clearly lagged behind the temperature at the onset of the glaciations.

Axial precession is indeed why the climate changes, doesn't have to be over a period of 26k years though. This is why we have what are called "seasons", the earth is tilted...obviously because it precesses. Man induced climate change is a meme. Man has nowhere near the coherency and power of a churning planet and space.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 00:30:46 2018 No.10082705 >>10081793 >Axial precession is why we have seasons Obviously you're an expert on climatology.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 02:16:42 2018 No.10082775 >>10078755 I would be more inclined to attribute it to Milankovich and long-frequency (centuries plus scale) solar cycle-cycles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 02:23:45 2018 No.10082783 >>10078755 What causes this axial procession?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 02:30:09 2018 No.10082787 >Correlation does not imply causation >Except for global warming They literally teach this in school

Anonymous Sat Oct 20 03:08:09 2018 No.10082810
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>>10080714
They’re actually laugh out loud funny how down the rabbit hole they go sometimes. Sometimes I question whether I’m watching them or an Alex Jones video.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 03:09:29 2018 No.10082812 >>10082810 >tfw satanic furries are in The Shining and no one comments on this

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 06:38:12 2018 No.10082995 >>10078755 >period of 26 000 years >climate radically changes in 150 hmmm

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 06:47:23 2018 No.10083003 >>10082995 >HUUR DUUR I'm a retard and I don't know anything about infinitesimal mouvements and its correlation with scales

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 07:51:04 2018 No.10083040 >>10083003 That isnt an answer

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 07:52:49 2018 No.10083045 >>10082787 But the greenhouse effect is well documented and understood so its perfectly reasonable to assume causation

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 08:03:37 2018 No.10083062 File: 187 KB, 720x576, ad-hominem.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10083003 >i have no argument

Anonymous Sat Oct 20 08:09:50 2018 No.10083069 [DELETED]

>>10083040
if the circumference of earth's orbit around the sun was reduced by just 1% the planet would be unhabitable ?

we're talking here about a planet's rotation around the zenith, and 26000 years is not that much for its size

>>10083062
>I can pull up pictures of some dead faggot from the internet so I'm smart *tips fedora*

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 08:11:10 2018 No.10083071 >>10082995 in last 150y co2 ppm: 290 --> 410 population: 1.5 bn --> 7.5 bn sure, just a coincidence

Anonymous Sat Oct 20 08:11:58 2018 No.10083072

>>10083040
if the circumference of earth's orbit around the sun was reduced by just 1% the planet would be unhabitable.
we're talking here about a planet's rotation around the zenith, and 26 000 years is not that much for its size

>>10083062
>I can pull up pictures of some dead faggot from the internet with some text, I'm so smart *tips fedora*

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 08:12:14 2018 No.10083073 >>10083069 >still no argument

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 08:13:33 2018 No.10083075 >>10083072 >still no argument

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 08:14:06 2018 No.10083076 >>10083073 I will bash ur fookin head mate, keep talking with that dirty mouth and i'll open ur cheek, cunt

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 08:32:51 2018 No.10083090 >>10078971 It's been more than 48 hours and no one has provided any proof to the opposite of this claim.

Anonymous Sat Oct 20 08:40:20 2018 No.10083096

>>10078755
global average temperature increase since the pre-industrial era correlates almost perfectly with anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions, we can tell it's anthropogenic because the isotopic composition of fossil fuels is different to pre-industrial carbon in the atmosphere
prove me and 90% of scientists wrong

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 08:52:18 2018 No.10083109 >>10083096 >prove me and 90% of scientists wrong >>>/r/eddit

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 08:54:58 2018 No.10083110 >>10078755 No

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 09:00:28 2018 No.10083117 >>10083109 >implying that's Reddit gb29gag gaylord

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 09:54:44 2018 No.10083188 File: 168 KB, 1200x1200, kysurself.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10082705 It's almost as if the earth having a tilted axis allows the sun to hit different parts of it at different parts of the year causing what are called "seasons".

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 11:32:19 2018 No.10083350 >>10083188 That's because the axis is tilted and not because of precession you retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 11:38:55 2018 No.10083364 >>10083188 Precession changes the seasons flamamlamb

Anonymous Sat Oct 20 12:01:02 2018 No.10083395
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>>10083350
>That's because the axis is tilted and not because of precession you retard
Cause and effect you brainlet. What caused the earth to be fucking tilted?
>>10083364
Are you saying we have 4 seasons per 26k years or because precession is the reason why the earth is tilted in the first place? The previous retard just threw me for a loop is all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 12:08:18 2018 No.10083405 >>10083395 >What caused the earth to be fucking tilted? Not precession you brainlet

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 12:15:09 2018 No.10083409 File: 5 KB, 221x250, 1518045540769.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10078983 >PragerU

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 12:22:00 2018 No.10083420 File: 62 KB, 620x390, LogicalFallacy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10078755

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 12:25:02 2018 No.10083425 >>10083409 cannot believe he actually hit us with the prageru meme >dae left-wing = hiter? >dae israel's military occupation humane? >dae hate islam?

Anonymous Sat Oct 20 12:33:43 2018 No.10083439

>>10083090
That's because his claim isn't wrong, it's just irrelevant. Milankovich cycles cause climate change, but not the current climate change. The fastest warming they produce is interglacial warming of 4-7 degrees C over thousands of years. That warming is an order of magnitude slower than current warming. Even more important is the fact that they are a predictable and observable *cycle*. We already had interglacial warming 12000 years ago. Now we are in the phase of the cycle where we would be slowly cooling back into a glacial period. But instead we are warming even more rapidly. So the insinuation that current global warming is caused by Milankovich cycles is doubly wrong. It has neither the power nor the correct timing to explain it. Luckily we already have a simple and well evidenced explanation: radiative forcing from the greenhouse gases man has emitted into the atmosphere.

Anonymous Sat Oct 20 12:36:44 2018 No.10083450
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>>10083405
Then what moron? Are you telling me that with the influence of the sun moon and other planets that the earth was at some point "straight and true"? Precession is the reason mass exists in the first place you fucking idiot. There is always precession and that is what causes the earth to be tilted to begin with,

Anonymous Sat Oct 20 12:39:51 2018 No.10083455

>>10081793
>deglaciation and atmospheric composition aren't always exactly in phase because nature isn't that simple in this case
>durr da global warmin ain't real
Your logic is pathetic. The surface temperature measurements and the causative lines of evidence, like the isotopic composition of atmospheric carbon, contradict your assertion that AGW isn't real.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 12:43:37 2018 No.10083464 >>10083450 It's tilted because it was always tilted. >Precession is the reason mass exists in the first place you fucking idiot Yikes. I see, I'm dealing with a 'special' individual here.

Anonymous Sat Oct 20 12:47:35 2018 No.10083475
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>>10083464
>It's tilted because it was always tilted.
Oh well I guess the phenomena just explains itself, that's totally how science works.

Larmor precession, go google it you dunderhead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 12:48:53 2018 No.10083483 >>10083450 The theory is that earth's tilt was caused by a massive collision during its formation. Small changes in its tilt are due in part to its orbital obliquity but that doesn't explain how it became tilted in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 12:53:19 2018 No.10083495 >>10083475 >Google this This indicates the poster has no explanation and is hoping that you will confuse yourself into thinking he does.

Anonymous Sat Oct 20 13:02:51 2018 No.10083521

>>10083483
The magnetic field was never perfect nor was the rotation of earth

>>10083495
More like, "No I'm not spoon feeding a retard that thinks circular reasoning is applicable when discussing cause and effect". Since there are so many retards like you though I'll simplify it. No precession=no vibration=no fucking matter. You get an inert nothing, good day sir.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 13:07:53 2018 No.10083534 >>10083521 >No precession=no vibration=no fucking matter. lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 14:22:03 2018 No.10083663 >>10083521 >The magnetic field was never perfect nor was the rotation of earth How does this respond to what you're replying to? >circular reasoning What circular reasoning? >No precession=no vibration=no fucking matter. What?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 21:19:25 2018 No.10084466 >>10078755 Climate change causes the axial precession. Climate change causes everything. Science is so much easier now that climate change was discovered.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 22:08:34 2018 No.10084532 >>10080293 This.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 22:22:39 2018 No.10084547 >>10083439 /thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 22:29:57 2018 No.10084554 File: 262 KB, 1280x640, 1534603869939.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10078755 >Prove me wrong >write a paper >contact ExxonMobil, Shell or BP for sponsoring to support its findings >obtain PhD with thesis >??? >PROFIT

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 22:36:05 2018 No.10084560 >>10078755 Nope it is because of rich people and business so we have to carbon tax everyone to fund the global government that will manage the means of production to keep the carbon emissions down. Comrade.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 23:06:48 2018 No.10084593 >>10084560 >carbon tax everyone If you pollute, you pay. Making non-polluters pay for your shitting is communism.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 23:39:45 2018 No.10084648 >>10078755 You are write but the earth's wobble has changed drastically.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 20 23:45:06 2018 No.10084657 >>10084648 That's read.

El Arcón Sat Oct 20 23:50:54 2018 No.10084664
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Do you see how you can regain the azimuthal freedom lost at the pole if you continue lines of constant azimuth through the pole to terminate on a circle?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 21 03:00:01 2018 No.10084887 File: 17 KB, 720x480, dismissive wanking gesture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10078983 >PragerU

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 21 03:03:12 2018 No.10084890 File: 49 KB, 740x419, Fucking Stupid.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10083450 >Precession is the reason mass exists in the first place you fucking idiot. so are your parents brother and sister or uncle and niece?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 21 13:50:30 2018 No.10085656 >>10084890 Well certainly you have the answers. Give me a reason why mass exists.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 21 14:05:53 2018 No.10085687 >>10078755 I wish /b/ shit was still bannable on other boards.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 21 14:08:38 2018 No.10085693 >>10085687 Seething liberal detected. Suck my farts

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 21 14:18:01 2018 No.10085710 File: 143 KB, 761x698, Provemewrong.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10085693 Yeah, I really dislike shitposting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 21 14:18:42 2018 No.10085713 I have everyone in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 21 21:45:24 2018 No.10086489 Climate change is a CIA hoax meant to limit industrialization and war production in China and other countries while we go full steam ahead

Anonymous Sun Oct 21 22:07:12 2018 No.10086527

>>10083072
>if the circumference of earth's orbit around the sun was reduced by just 1% the planet would be unhabitable.
That's just wrong, though. For starters, the Earth's orbit is slightly elliptical, and if the closest point to the Sun was taken as the radius of the new orbit the circumference would be more than 3% less than the current circumference.

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