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Has Scientism become a form of modern religion?

>> No.9904945

>>9904937
yes. engineers are to blame

>> No.9904950
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>>9904945
*blocks your path*

>> No.9904951

>>9904937
Tell me any important scientific fields that depends on "gender science"? Even psychology doesn't accept many of it's tenants. Do people abuse the word? Yes, but that has been done since antiquity. Also, Bill Nye, Dawkings, Tysson are fucking media whores who have not produced any sort of work comparable to a decent academic and academia doesn't concern itself what some redditors say about science. There's no "scientism" epidemic.

>> No.9904982

>>9904937
It's going away as quickly as it set in. My hope is that the right wingers resort to intuitive and mystical truths when they find out how deeply entangled are the established scientific institutions (and hence authorities of truth) with liberal worldview.

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>>9904950
>be engineers
>"engineering is applied physics bro, I understand it"
>concludes they are also scientists
>reads popsci
>reads bullshit social engineering
>spreads popsci and social engineering to others professing it to be fact
>general populace is stupid and thinks engineers know what they are talking about
>popsci figures become magic wizard geniuses to populace
>every subsequent statement from popsci figure is more effective and taken as fact
>Populace is gripped by speculativists and social engineers
all because of engineers

>> No.9904991

>>9904951
>Nye began his career as a mechanical engineer for Boeing Corporation in Seattle, where he invented a hydraulic resonance suppressor tube used on 747 airplanes

Nye actually did have a major accomplishment before entering show biz, and his original series “The Science Guy” was an entertaining and incontrovertible presentation of fundamental science.

Scientism though absolutely is a problem now and scientific journalism and presentation nowadays has become completely unreliable and tries to intertwine hard science with soft socialogical philosophy shilling left-leaning beliefs as fact.

Such as:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RvOnXh3NN9w

>> No.9905005

>>9904937
And here we witness a jew attempting to mislead the children of the goyim, in such a way that their ability to reproduce or form longlasting relationships is permanently damaged

"My sex junk uh, my sex junk uh"

>> No.9905010

>>9904951
There is, however, an epidemic of anti-intellectualism. Particularly in America.

>> No.9905045

>>9904991
>Nye actually did have a major accomplishment before entering show biz
>Literally one invention
So? What does that have to do with knowledge in psychology or any other field? His comprehension is always challenged in serious debate.
>
Scientism though absolutely is a problem now and scientific journalism and presentation nowadays has become completely unreliable and tries to intertwine hard science with soft socialogical philosophy shilling left-leaning beliefs as fact.
Ok, you should be able to provide with substantial evidence of these claims. I know about some journals who didn't published certain papers because they were deemed "racist", but the reaction from the peers was pretty much what you expect from academia, they basically defended the paper as scientific and the journal had to apologize, though I'm not finding it anywhere (It's not the jensen meme). But beside those, almost all the published results are controversial for far more complicated topics than fucking politics, and because there is still doubt in them, no policy maker is going to start making racially biased decisions.
>but muh SJWs from Yale
So? go to fucking /his/ to learn about how the social sciences operate in academia. That the retarded moron in politics, and the voters are too ignorant to enter into a dense academic discussion is not the problem of academia, it's the same old story. Ffs, companies used to tell you that cigarettes were safe and also led in gasoline.
>Muh immigration
If you dislike your government do something about it, we already have one of the most "republican" presidents controlling the white house, there are no spooky scientists controlling who you vote for and what you do to convince more people your political affiliations. The problem is that everyone is so ignorant about almost everything, whatever sort of authoritative figure will be enough to convince them, but that has absolutely nothing to do with academia.

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>>9904937
hmmmmm

>> No.9905119

>>9904937
Methodological naturalism is a safe space for the closed minded 'scientism' adherent. Some stiff necked zealots will never give a single entertaining thought to other possibilites and will resort to a nature of the gaps type line of reasoning, nature did it but we dont know how yet.

>> No.9905138

>>9904937
Cult, there is nothing wrong with religion.

>> No.9905162

>>9905138
Religion is stupid. You can post a fedora image all you want but faith-based beliefs of any kind, including complete faith in scientists, is fucking stupid.

>> No.9905164

>>9904937
No, but consumerism has.

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>>9905164
>webm related

>> No.9905192

>>9904984
go fuck urself its because of thots and potheads and gender studies liberal retarts insecure about their low IQs

>> No.9905193

>>9904951
See
>>9904982

Some people have come to believe that science is intrinsically attached to leftist beliefs.

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>>9905193
>implying its not

>> No.9905234

>>9905162
Depends what you mean by faith. Believing in something without reasons and evidence to believe is stupid but no rational thinker would say that is why they have faith. Faith in this sense is a misnomer, what faith really means is trusting in something because you have reasons to trust it.

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DO NOT QUESTION SCIENCE

>> No.9905303

>>9905193
Take the red pill and you will see
>takes the red pill
>jews are running all of the academic institutions and hold a monopoly on the dissemination of facts and truth
>universities are run by brainwashing liberal communists
>fake news
>it's the blacks, muslims, and jews that start wars, not religion or a lack of science *tips MAGA hat*

>> No.9905318

>>9905193
>Some people have come to believe that science is intrinsically attached to leftist beliefs.
Science is a fucking word describing an enormous amount of fields. Anyone who uses the word "science" for anything other than an umbrella term is certainly not a scientists.
>>9905240
EBBIN
>>9905303
I hope this is ironic.

>> No.9905329

>>9904984
Please. The gay agenda is a myth.

>> No.9905337

>>9905318
Of course it's ironic, but it's not entirely false. We're seeing everyday that those aligning themselves with the vulgar forms of rightism that's been hyped up lately are abandoning the self-critical views of last decade that promised that rational introspection and a commitment to "logic" and science as moral and social guides.

>> No.9905500

>>9904991
Lesson learned: Listen more attentively to Kurzgesagt on social crises to properly sift through bias. Videos are still fun though