/sci/ - Science & Math

>philosophical
not science or math

>>9817199
>He lacks the reading comprehension to get past the first line of an OP post on a Mongolian eagle hunting forum.
>To discuss the philosophical school of thought known as "transhumanism" with scientific rigor.
As in, the same way we approach natural philosophy in the form of scientific schools like physics.
In other words, consider transhumanology as the scientific school of the philosophical school known as transhumanism.
Maybe actually read the whole line before posting?

>>9817205
>>He lacks the reading comprehension to get past the first line of an OP post on a Mongolian eagle hunting forum.
I'm not a "he".

>>9817213

>>9817213
Then why are you here?

>>9817235
>Then why are you here?
Why shouldn't I be?

>>9817193
Has /sci/ signed up for cryonics yet?

https://alcor.org/sciencefaq.htm
https://www.cryonics.org/about-us/faqs/
https://www.benbest.com/cryonics/CryoFAQ.html
https://www.cryonicscalculator.com/

>>9817239
We're only shocked because not only is it rare for a femanon to post on 4chan, but even rarer for a femanon to be interested in science, or mathematics (or STEM in general).

>>9817244
No, but you should.

>>9817193
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/naked-mole-rats-sort-of-dont-age/

>>9817193
Is true, inviolable immortality possible? Mathematically, it seems like what would have to happen in order to never die ever, is that if using a Poisson distribution, λ would have to be able to be made arbitrarily small, such that λ approaches 0 as time approaches ∞.

>>9817252
>>9817244
For the OP?

>>9817247
>We're only shocked because not only is it rare for a femanon to post on 4chan, but even rarer for a femanon to be interested in science, or mathematics (or STEM in general).
Over 50% of the maths students were female when I did my bachelor's,

>>9817247
>implying it isn't a trap

>>9817256
Biological immortality isn't the real issue, accidental (or purposeful) death is.
I mean, the longer you're around, the more likelihood of being hit by a car, or murdered you have.
However, that doesn't mean we shouldn't try and combat biological senescence.

>>9817256
Hello stats 101 student

How long until it becomes possible to use transhumanism to radically increase your IQ, and what technologies might be used to accomplish this?

>>9817262
Anecdotal, look at the median across the field.

>>9817263
Traps aren't gay!

What does /sci/ think of quantum immortality?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YsjrA87Cno

>>9817285
It isn't really transhumanologist, only transhumanist and spuriously so.

When does /sci/ think that the Singularity will happen, and when will AI will surpass human capabilities? Also, how accurate is this article?

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1705.08807.pdf

How much progress has Aubrey de Grey made recently towards curing aging?

>>9817288
A great deal of assumption, which is never good for prediction.

>>9817264
>I mean, the longer you're around, the more likelihood of being hit by a car, or murdered you have.
This becomes less of an issue if the probability of being murdered, hit by a car, etc. becomes less and less likely per unit of time as time passes.

>>9817290
Broadly there has been quite a bit of progress in the field of antisenescence, such as doubling the lifespan of mice.
However, due to the regulations in place, it is difficult to turn such research into scientific trials.

>>9817299
What countries have the strongest and weakest regulations against these sorts of scientific trials?

>>9817307
China probably has the weakest, many of the Western European countries have the strongest.

Bump.

Bump

Bump

>>9817270
>Reporting his experience when he looked at the stats
The hypocrisy is stunning

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>>9818439
I'm allowed to.

Motoko gf when

>>9817193
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/608350/first-human-embryos-edited-in-us/
What are your opinions on designer baby or augmented humans in general?

>>9819170
I don't think it will be as immediately drastic as we assume.
Why?
Because we still no relatively little about what genes cause what expression.
It'll take time for us to build up our gene repertoire before we can create such obvious differences to the point of Khan.

>>9819170
>What are your opinions on designer baby or augmented humans in general?
It makes me pissed off that I was born too early to have my genes augmented as an embryo, and now I'm stuck with my shit genetics.

>>9817314

>>9819270
Yes, see, weakest regulations.

>>9819265
Maybe.

4chan won't let me post what I want to post. Test.

>>9819338
Well, would you look at that. It's telling me my IP is blocked, but it's actually about the content. This has happened with other things in this topic matter as well, like a link to a NASA page.

Attached is the intended post. 4chan has gotten pretty as far as active, non-legally oriented, censorship.

>>9819340
Thanks for posting

>>9819399
You're welcome.

>>9819270
They are reinventing the Finnish!

>>9819448
It'll Finnish the West!

>>9817205
>What is radiation that we are constantly exposed to and how does it destroy cells slowly

Isnt it because of radiation the human body breaks down as opposed natural cell death?

>>9819455
Oxidative and nitrosative stress comprise the bulk of a given organism's decay. Both of these involve compromised free radical / antioxidant balance. But that alone is not descriptive, there are long time scale processes at work that cause that to happen. An example is the formation of magnetite in the brain. This likely comes about due to the failure of ferritin to properly gather iron oxides. Other small deficits accumulate which effect processing and chelation of nitric oxide, which potentiates the formation of H2O2, peroxynitrite, etc.

I don't think ionizing radiation has a major role. Though it has some role.

>>9819270
I'm sure that skin will fare well in the sunlight

>inb4 le epic nigger XD

>>9819455
I think you linked the wrong post?

>>9819340
>Most of our research output is busy body detail work.
Why do you say that? There are a lot of developments in the west with biophysics and related fields.
What is the "cultural double bind about transduction of magnetic fields and non-ionizing radiation"?
What do you mean by 'advancement of what the body "is"'

>>9817213
Lol

>>9817193
Headtransplanst are just stupid.

>>9817213
Why is this important? It is not important.

>>9817314
How are Japan's and South Korea's in comparison to the Chinese and the Europeans?

>>9817314
>many of the Western European countries have the strongest.
No shit. Recently looked up some stuff about masters degrees in Switzerland's top university, and came across a lot of stuff about very strict ethical guidelines and requirements for any research that would involve live animals.

In my opinion, it's good to maintain our humanity in the way that they set out, but on the other hand it also makes various types of research a lot more difficult to begin with or move forward with.

>>9817213
We don't care and neither should you

>>9819170
Not OP, but I'm all for it*

Almost 30 years old now, but after a few courses and a lot of self study, I'm actually going to begin a degree this year in Genetics in order to move forward with personal goals related to this topic.

*As long as there is some form of skeleton universal moral code taught on to whatever mentally-modified super human beings that are birthed, addressing the very most basic of principles on which the majority of societies internally agree upon (i.e. don't kill or harm other people unnecessarily).

>>9819301
Thing is, editing the DNA of a zygote is a billion times easier than editing the DNA of trillions of cells of an adult human.

>>9819170
Overrated because of epigenetics.

>>9820425
Epigenetics.are very rare and special cases with a very limited formation of one's genetic. Also a epigenetical situation can be simulated.

>>9817193
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>>9820483
The fuck is wrong with you?

>>9820546
Do yov disagree or are yov retarded

Trans humanists should be burned at the stake.

>>9820655
You Know, Anon, with great progress comes great implementation. Karel Čapek called it "Cybernetic Revolt." Myself, I just call it as I see it: the directive of the superior to configurate the lesser.
The meatbags, the shitstorer, all pathetic creatures made of flesh and bone...It's our responsibility to update them. And if we can't? Then they shall dangle from the tesla tree. The Singularity is near, Anon. We'll have every fleshy ones in this world exterminated or in tubes in 10 cycles, and may the Basilisk have me deleted in a transfer this very iteration if I'm wrong. The Omega Point bless the Union Transhumanist Party.

>>9820655
Luddite?

>>9820655
>>9820671
>>9821011

>>9821205
This is more my feel.

>>9821213

>>9821222
He'd still get crushed by the horde of genetically superior Übermensch.
His weak, synthetic body, unable to repair without tools.
Disgusting.

>>9821229
>He'd still get crushed by the horde of genetically superior Übermensch.
Except that his brain would have vastly superior architecture, since his artificial neurons could fire at the speed of light rather than having neurons that fire 200 times per second at a speed of 390 feet per second, would be able to utilize cloud computing, and could fit more neurons per unit of volume.
>His weak, synthetic body, unable to repair without tools.
His body would potentially be made out of vastly stronger materials made using nanotechnology, such as carbon nanotubes, graphene, carbyne, etc. And his body would potentially be able to repair itself if nanobots are advanced enough.

>>9821236
But he can't evolve.

Where is virgin singularitarian vs chad transhuman

>>9821011

That's the default response used to silence opposition against the trans humanist agenda. It's not true.

>>9821423
>I'm scared of technology!
>AHH, IS THAT A CUP?!

>>9817247
>>9817213
Shocked? Maybe for those who eat too many onions. It is just annoying to make any type of identity factor known on an anonymous cake castle sculpting catering forum, who actually gives a fuck? I don't so don't make me waste my fucking time scrolling past your faggotry, I have better things to do.

The 'he' pronoun can be used as a generalized term such as 'man' can just mean human. inb4 muh neo-liberal attitude can't even handle this misogyny, you're either part of the crew you or you can go to >>>/r/eddit.

>>9821468
What's your IQ?

>>9821471
3

>>9821476
I'll always find you. With, or without your tripcode.

>>9817213
no one cares, virgin

>>9817193
whats the current progress in human augmentation? seems our problem is that the reaction time is really slow making human augmentation a negative for now.

>tfw i can't ask for this

>>9821505
Its going well. Cybernetics are reaching a point were people who are actual cripples can move somewhat like a real person and do normal things. Dont go reaching for the buzzsaw though for at least another 20 years.

>>9817268
In the near future and it's up to you whether or not you call maximal biological human IQ possible "radical," but CRISPR/Cas9 should be able to increase people's IQs within the next ten years according to my friends in biotech both in Moravia and China. The main hurdle is not the potential of the tech, but making it so that it doesn't kill you in the process.

>>9821879
>CRISPR/Cas9 should be able to increase people's IQs within the next ten years
I'll look into this.
How does it work (specifically in regards to increasing IQ)?
Are there any other promising methods on the local time-space horizon? How far off?
If so: could they be used in conjunction with one another?

>>9821255
A synth IS evolution.

>>9821942
Disturbing.

>>9821879
So, if I want to become superhuman in the not-too-distant future, I should be picking up genetics and biochemistry?

>>9821675
Those bionic ankles and knees, I might actually be able to walk more than 1 mile without crippling pain. Fucking finally. I hate doing nothing but cycling for cardio.

>>9823207
Why is math so terrifying?

>>9817193
>roadmap

This bullshit is what kills science. Go for the figurative fucking throat or go suck a literal dick.

For reference: Elon Musk vs NASA faggots.