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New to /sci, anyone wanna discuss magnets with me?

>> No.9818151 [DELETED] 

>>9818148
no kill yourself and sage

>> No.9818170

>>9818148
Same person, guess I'll start.

Is there a possible way to use magnets and electricity to create molecules, or even if on a large enough scale, of certain elements? I was thinking of somehow discharging charged particles through some form of build up, like maybe a taser, and using the magnets to help induce collision to create a molecule of an element. I know that's basically how accelerators work but I think pulling them together is cooler than slamming them into each other.

Thoughts?

>> No.9818179

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFabsRFnWy0

>> No.9818182

>>9818170
Same person once again.

Looking back on that, how should I go about controlling the amounts of protons and electrons, if I fire off randomly I'll just get a bunch of bs, but the problem is how to be so precise, I mean, it takes about 11 billion electrons to ring a doorbell so it's gonna be a challenge.

>> No.9818422

>>9818179
Fuck I was about to post this

>> No.9818978
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>>9818148
>>9818170

Oh boy here we go again.

>Is there a possible way to use magnets and electricity to create molecules or even if on a large enough scale, of certain elements?

Well given that every fucking thing in the universe is held together by electricity and magnetism, yes it would.

>I was thinking of somehow discharging charged particles through some form of build up, like maybe a taser, and using the magnets to help induce collision to create a molecule of an element I know that's basically how accelerators work but I think pulling them together is cooler than slamming them into each other.

we aren't there yet, but yes this is how "matter" is made. Tangled light/EM via constructive/destructive interference. Now as to "how do magnets work", pic related is the pressure gradients in a magnet. A magnet is nothing other that a coherent dielectric object. What that means is that there is absolutely no difference between the materials in it as opposed to the materials in the ground other that coherency/alignment of said materials. This means that a magnet is purely distinguished by it's qualitative aspects and not quantitative.

>> No.9818991

>>9818978
Haha, what the fuck are you on?

Disregard this idiot.

>> No.9819002

>>9818148
It like waves, dude, everything is waves!

>> No.9819007

>>9818182
>>9818978
>Tangledlight/EM via constructive/destructive interference

Could you elaborate on that? I'm just a dumbass asking big questions.

>> No.9819016

@9818991
> A magnet is nothing other that a coherent dielectric object
Disprove this statement and I'll give you the privilege of getting a (you).

>> No.9819026

>>9819007
https://www.khanacademy.org/test-prep/mcat/physical-processes/light-and-electromagnetic-radiation-questions/a/diffraction-and-constructive-and-destructive-interference

explains it pretty well. Also what do you suppose happens when the frequency become so high that it surpasses gamma/measurable means? Does it just become lost into the "vacuum of space"?

>> No.9819046

Ampère currents

>> No.9819077

>>9819026
Thanks for the explanation.

But which part of this whole thing are you talking about with the frequency?

Please dumb all this down for me or at least provide links that do that. Once again, I'm just a dumbass asking big questions with barely any knowledge to the idea at hand.

>> No.9819085

>>9819077
Same person, different question.

I know this is easier to Google but I think it's better ask it directly to a person. Anyways, why is that only iron, cobalt and nickel are the only magnetic metals that we know of? What's stopping other types from having the same properties?

>> No.9819109

>>9819085
They're ferromagnetic. It has to do with the way the material's magnetic moments (created by unpaired electrons "orbiting" around nuclei) are ordered, in ferromagnets it's easier for them to align parallel when being subject to magnetic field.

>> No.9819116

>>9818978
Very good bait

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>>9818148
A paradox :

- By definition, the magnet's "north-pole" points to the North Magnetic Pole.
- A magnet's "north-pole" always points to another magnet's "south-pole".
- If the Earth is a giant magnet, then the North Magnetic Pole is a South Pole...

>> No.9819581

>>9819440
The north pole of compass will tend to point to the earth's geography north pole. That means that magnetic pole that intersects the crust near the earth's north pole is actually the south pole of the larger dipole generated by means of the earth's iron core, other complex bullshit I don't fully understand, etc.
Why does the earth have a noticeably strong magnetic field?

>> No.9819587

>>9819440
OP here. We learned this in the 8th grade.

What point are you trying to make?

>> No.9819590

>>9819587
Really? I didn't know shit about magnetic until college.

>> No.9819652

how do magnets work???

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>>9819652

Magnets are aetheric vortices created by angular momentum from the atom. Vortices can only combine and couple (attract) when they spin in the same direction. This is why you get only 2 poles. Relativists would like you to believe in a more complicated explanation that doesn't truly explain anything. The secrets of the universe are often extremely elegant.

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>>9819652

>>9819652

Magnetic fields are aetheric vortices created by angular momentum from the atom. Imagine a small ball spinning in a cup of water resulting in a vortex. Same principle here. Vortices can only combine and couple (attract) when they spin in the same direction. This is why you get only 2 different poles at each end. One side is clockwise and the other is counter-clockwise. Relativists would like you to believe in a more complicated explanation that doesn't really explain anything. The secrets of the universe are often extremely elegant.

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>>9819652
Magnetic fields are aetheric vortices created by angular momentum from the atom. Imagine a small ball spinning in a cup of water resulting in a vortex. Same principle here. Vortices can only combine and couple (attract) when they spin in the same direction. This is why you get different poles at each end. One side spins clockwise and the other is counter-clockwise. Relativists would like you to believe in a more complicated explanation that doesn't really explain anything. The secrets of the universe are often extremely elegant.

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>>9819652
The Faraday paradox is a fine example of aetheric interaction. Fluid dynamics applies.

>> No.9819793

>>9819763
>>9819773
should've used star trek

>> No.9821168

>>9819587
>- If the Earth is a giant magnet, then the North Magnetic Pole is a South Pole...

Seriously ? Didn't noticed a paradox here ?

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>>9819440
The compass was discovered thousands years before the magnets.
In this times, there were no dipoles, only a strange needle vvitch was always pointing to the Pole-Star used by navigators.
Needle's North Pole => North-Pole-Star

>> No.9821240

>>9819440
>- By definition, the magnet's "north-pole" points to the North Magnetic Pole.
What? Are you talking about a compass perhaps?
North, South, East and West were all around long before we learned about magnets and compasses. It's not the only time we have made assumptions that have ended up being wrong but we just deal with it.
Like electrons flowing from negative to positive in circuits.

>> No.9821252

>>9819763
>Vortices can only combine and couple (attract) when they spin in the same direction. This is why you get different poles at each end. One side spins clockwise and the other is counter-clockwise.
That makes zero sense.
With this explanation you could just rotate the magnet to reverse the poles.

>> No.9821559

>>9818991
>>9819116
>tfw brainlet who has the potential to learn but doesn't know who to trust here

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I know magnets will be responsible if we advanced to a multi planetary species or not.
The thing is though with faraday law, doesnt this mean we can harness free electricity by moving super strong magnets in a circular moition?

In the diagram, the circle around the magnets is conductive metal and its connected to a harnesser, where is the flaw in this? as long as the magnets keep constant motion it will produce a current

>> No.9821629

>>9818151
Reported for sage-downvoting

>> No.9821633

>>9818148
I’ll drop this article. Great read to see how electricity and magnetism relate through relativity.

http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/classes/252/rel_el_mag.html

>> No.9821656
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9821656

>>9818148

FUCKING MAGNETS
EVERYDAY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFabsRFnWy0

MIRACLES.
SPIRITUAL.
LYRICAL INDIVIDUAL.
FuCkInG mAgNeTs HoW dO tHeY wOrK?!?!?!?

*HANGS SELF*

>> No.9821663

>>9821656
This is a man quite literally at the end of his rope.