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What would be the downsides to making your bones metal?

>> No.9215590

>>9215589
death

>> No.9215592

>arm stuck in door
>permanently bent

>> No.9215594

>>9215589
It would be very painful

>> No.9215597

heavy bones :/

>> No.9215598

>>9215594
You're a big guy

>> No.9215600

>>9215590
How do?
>>9215592
Bend it back

>> No.9215602

>>9215589
bones are not just static, they are used for mineral storage. you'd have HUGE calcium deficits

>> No.9215604

>>9215602
M8 I drink milk every day. I'd be fine.

>> No.9215607

>>9215604
your an retarded

>> No.9215613

>>9215607
Yes I an.

>> No.9215634

>>9215589
They would be very heavy.
The connection between "bone" and muscle would not be very good.
There would be problems with calcium homeostasis.

>> No.9215644

>>9215589
Say goodbye to your red blood cells

>> No.9215645

>>9215592
>make them out of mercury
>never stuck in anything
>>9215602
>make them out of calcium
>no more milk
>>9215634
>make them out of metallic hydrogen
>can fly

>> No.9215652

>>9215644
>2017
>not using cerium oxides as storage

>> No.9215677

>>9215589
Magnets. Also if you were standing near a radio tower or other large source of EM waves your bones would heat up from induction.

>> No.9215690

>>9215589
We don't have a way to connect tendons to metal, so you'd collapse into a blob.

>> No.9215720

>>9215589
Airport security checks

>> No.9215731

>>9215690
What are clips?

>> No.9215743 [DELETED] 

You're muscles tearing and heavy bruising pretty much any time you hit your funny bone or have a light trip.

>> No.9215772

>>9215731
A very bad way to connect tendons to metal. The huge difference in stiffness between metal and tendons will create stress concentrations that will reduce max load capacity.

>> No.9215802
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>>9215772
What if you have a little metal ring on the bone where the tendon ties on to?

>> No.9215844

>>9215589
BUT CALCIUM IS A METAL!!!

>> No.9215917

>>9215598
For you
>>9215589
Metal doesn't regenerate.

>> No.9215987

Enjoy your lack of red blood cells and lymphocytes.

>> No.9215992

>>9215802
The difference in stiffness is still a problem. This means load is not transferred to the metal bone and the muscle could rip out.

>> No.9215999
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9215999

>this thread

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9216010

Fun fact: There's a skeleton living inside of you.

>> No.9216028

Titanium foam or weave, niggers.

100% possible and none of the downsides, besides being a bit heavier.

>> No.9216035

>>9216028
Bones are living tissue, they're not Kerbal Space Program struts. You can't just replace them with a stronger material.

>> No.9216040

>>9216035
You can grow the bone inside the weave.

Actually implanting it would be the worst job but I don't think its impossible.

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>>9215645
>make them out of calcium
But anon, aren't they already made from calcium?

>> No.9216088

You'd have a boner ALL the time instead of just some times

>> No.9216099

>>9215999
Pretty much.

>> No.9216110

Metal is utterly retarded, but very robust plastic sounds rather useful.

Ofc there are the problems are anons mention like blood cell production, bone mark, etc.

>> No.9216304

>>9215589
There would be no downside as long as you keep going and make everything else in your body metal too.
Fleshlets won't last long in the coming singularity.

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9216346

Imagine falling off a bike and bending your leg

>> No.9216407

>>9216010
thank mr skeltal!

Beep Booop

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9216420

The cold in the winter.

>> No.9216566

Calcium IS a metal

>> No.9216653

>>9215589
Biweekly blood transfusions

>> No.9216672

Hematopoietic stem cells wouldn't be able to leave nor intake the nutrients to be synthesized in your bone marrow so you would have no red blood cells nor white blood cells.

>> No.9216682

>>9216035
maybe you can't

>> No.9217025

>>9215589
rejected by the rest of the body
doesn't do what the bones do (produce blood, regenerate, etc)
too heavy for your physiology, will cause slowness and damage to body
definitely result in death

>> No.9217030

>>9215987
I had to scroll way too far down to read this. This should be the first thought you have if you have a decent understanding of the body. /sci/ confirmed bio-brainlets

>> No.9217037

>>9216052
it's hydroxylapatite, not pure calcium

>> No.9217063

>>9215589
If they were made of some type titanium foam alloy that might be doable. For example hip replacements are just solid metal and it is okay.

>> No.9217101

>>9215589
youd sink

the human body rusts even titanium implants

>> No.9217103

>>9217101
>>9217101
be just a little creative, we are not talking about solid metal bones. Try to peek out of your box.

>> No.9217566

>>9216010
thank mr skeltal

>> No.9217608

>>9215589
Generally speaking, if you even consider a possibility of replacing your organic bones with metal ones, you don't really know much about the bones themselves. A lot of people have this wrong preconception that bones are a static, kind of "dead" tissue. It's completely wrong though. Go google some bone tissue, look at the haversian system, your bones are actually in the constant state of change just like all the other organs, they exchange substances with the rest of the organism, they aren't merely a pillar. Bone marrow is the key component of the lymphatic system, also the red bone marrow produces red blood cells. Bones are also a calcium storage.

>> No.9217652

Does the majority of sci think all our bones are just lifeless matter with no other function than being a robust frame for other tissue??

>> No.9217662

>>9217652
>expecting /sci/fags to understand basic physiology
most people on this board have no knowledge outside of their narrow field, in addition to being stupid as fuck

>> No.9217669

I know a guy with a bunch of metal ribs, a metal nose, and a metal kneecap. He doesn't seem to have many problems with it.

>> No.9217693

>>9216010
thank mr skeltal

>> No.9217729

>>9215645
>>9216052
>>9217037
>making bones out of pure calcium metal
>when your body is 99%water
The absolute madman

>> No.9217747

>>9217608
That's why you create a framework for your actual bone to grow into.

Think of it as reinforced concrete.

You now have the best of both worlds.

>> No.9217751

>>921660
You don't have a bone in your dick you dumbass

>> No.9217767

>>9217751
maybe you dont

>> No.9217777

>>9215645
Holy fuck you ar3 a genius

>> No.9217834

>>9215589
No Blood Cells coming out from your Bones's marrow
>>9215597
>heavy bones :/
& very heavy bones that don't regenerate
>>9215590
= Death

>> No.9217897

>>9215992
use aluminum or something that's bendy innit

>> No.9217901

>>9217751
llmoa check out this dicklet

>> No.9217918

>>9217608
thanks, captain obvious. Everyone here knows that, on the other hand you are a fucking uninformed retard.
Just google titanium foam bones, how foam structure helps the bone to get integrated, etc.
Goddamn /sci/, use some imagination.

>> No.9218619

>>9215645
Good post

>> No.9218821

>>9215589

you would never be able to find buried treasure with a metal detector

>> No.9218824

>>9216010
thank mr skeltal

>> No.9218854

>>9215999
This

>> No.9218899

In case you haven't got the real answer yet, here it is:

Your body must keep the pH of your blood stable, or else you'd die. Too acidic, too basic, you fuck up homeostasis and die.

So in a healthy human, if your blood becomes too acidic, your bones release bicarbonate (which is basic) to balance the blood. Failure to balance the blood pH can result in acidemia.

Also, bones have the roles of producing blood cells, it has some immune roles, and it requires flexibility. Metal is way too dense, and way too inflexible.

And there are some piezoelectric functions of the bone that have yet to be discovered, but which are important. For instance, bones might generate a lot of energy simply by being used, and this energy might be important for use, or for signalling.

Lastly, bones need to be remodeled all the time. If bones cannot be remodeled, they won't stay efficient for the tasks you are partaking in. Look up Wolff's law. Bone is constantly changing shape, and this is important for functioning correctly.

Metal wouldn't work, at least not now. Maybe if an animal evolved for millions of years eating a diet incredibly high in iron, then maybe the animals osteoblasts would start using iron, but not now. If you simply covered a humans bones in metal, wolverine style, you would fuck shit up. There would be a huge immune reaction, and the human would die.

>> No.9219022

>>9218899
So it only works on a human like wolverine who is impervious to damage, illness and can regenerate extremely quickly and constantly.

>> No.9220012

BUMP

>> No.9220025

>bone marrow
you would die

>> No.9220036

>>9218899
>bones release bicarbonate
>bones have anything to to whatsoever with pH regulation
wat

>> No.9220167

>>9218899
>legs amputee after accident
>die because ph imbalance
sasuga scienceguys you never cease to amaze

>> No.9220502

>>9215589
They're already made of metal.

>> No.9220572

>>9215720
the real problem over here

>> No.9220578

>>9215844
>every mineral can have metallic properties under the right condition s

>> No.9221054

You wouldn't be able to make new blood cells to replace the old ones in your body.

>> No.9221065

>>9216010
thank mr skeltal

>> No.9221749

>>9216010
thank mr skeltal

>> No.9221884

>>9217025
> metal
>being rejected

>> No.9221887

>>9217669
>befriending Cybermen

>> No.9223287

>>9215720
underrated

>> No.9223297

>>9216010
thank mr skeltal

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>>9215720

>> No.9223329

>>9215589
>making your bones metal
i cant imagine being this autistic desu
i thank the gods every day

>> No.9223373

>>9216010


AAAHHH DEAR GOD I SUCK BIG FUCK I SUCK FFUCFUCKING FFFUCK FUCKING CUNT FUCK

>> No.9223524

>>9216010
thank mr skeltal

>> No.9223550

>>9216672
you are part of a little group of intelligent people here.

>> No.9223655

>>9215590
FPBP

>> No.9223872

>>9216010
thank mr skeltal

>> No.9224174

>>9215589
A fuckload of heavy possibly-toxic particles in your bloodstream - oxidated metals etc.
Increased weight
Inability for doctors to unfuck you when youj break something
>your limbs bend instead of breaking/you'd need to weld them back together or replace them entirely
the intense heat from welding is impractical, for deep fractures, you'd just have to get the bones pulled out and replaced

>> No.9224229

Fucking hell. I made this thread ages ago. How is it still up?
Now, what if you didn't make the bones entirely out of metal and just replace your bone with titanium foam reinforced bone?

>> No.9224268

>>9216420
this. our bones are red from all the warm blood

>> No.9224575

>>9215802
this is the funniest thing i have seen in weeks

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>>9217777
quads confirms it

>> No.9225031

>>9223329
Rolling on the floor.

>> No.9225082

Magneto

>> No.9225085

>>9216010
thank mr skeltal

>> No.9225092

Corrosion?

>> No.9225117

>>9216010
thank mr skeltal

>> No.9225260

>Lightning storms are instant death
>Can no longer swim
>Bones may rust
>No healing
>RIP white blood cells
>Fights with Magneto become more dangerous

>> No.9225568

>>9217037
>pure calcium in water
ah yes

>> No.9226705

I'm not letting this retarded thread die. Bump.

>> No.9227198

>>9215589

>making your bones metal

WHAT THE FUCK IS CALCIUM??1?!

>> No.9228200

>>9227198
Calcium is in your bones but your bones are not entirely made of calcium.

>> No.9228231

>>9216010
thanks mr. skelly

>> No.9228247

>>9215645
>>make them out of mercury

Ins't mercury highly toxic and a liquid at room temperature?

>> No.9228259

>>9228247
Mercury being toxic is a conspiracy by (((them)))
I personally drink a pint of mercury every day with no ill effects.

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>>9228259

That as (((their))) plan, YOU FOOL!! (((I))) Would know.

>> No.9228433

>>9215589
I'd make my bones out of diamond, the hardest metal known to man

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>>9228433

> implying carbon is a metal

>> No.9228467

>>9215589
What about concrete? Plenty of calcium there.

>> No.9228479

>>9216010
thank you mr skeltal

>> No.9228481

>>9216010
thank mr skeltal

>> No.9228486

>>9217669
how many times we have to tell you dont talk to strange cyborgs

>> No.9228819

>>9228259
Shi huang di stop shitposting, you were supposed to die thousands of years ago

>> No.9228830

>>9228819
Qin Shi Huang's death is imperial western propaganda
eternal emperor of Qin dynasty cannot die

>> No.9228832

>>9228830
Don't make me get The Party again

>> No.9228938

>>9216010
thank mr skeltal

>> No.9228942

You need a light alloy. Steel is too heavy and inflexible. Bones have flexible resistance to them. Titanium might be your best bet because lightness and the fact that it's one of the kings of corrosion resistance.
Of course, your bone marrow generates blood cells but if you could use some stem cells to grow marrow and/or blood.

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http://www.stufftoblowyourmind.com/blogs/pravda-soviets-developed-titanium-boned-ww2-super-soldiers.htm

>> No.9229319

>>9215589
Death.
Heavy metal poisoning.
Never being able to float again.
Never passing a metal detector without drama.
Your metal bones would wear away making your joints more and more arthritic.
Did I mention death as a downside? Actually, it you would beg for it eventually.

>> No.9229332

>>9216010
i am spooked all the time

>> No.9229472

>>9223373
Some one get this crossed out of .

>> No.9229597

>>9215589
Poison

>> No.9229599

>>9215597
That also means a lot if muscle mass to lift it.

>> No.9229602

>>9215604
Are you in the sun everyday?

>> No.9229825

No bone marrow, you'll die pretty quickly without white blood cells

>> No.9229830

>>9215597
prosthetics aren't heavy

>> No.9229832

>>9216010
thanks mr skeltal

>> No.9230286

>>9215604
milk gives calcium is a meme by dairy industry

>> No.9230314

>>9215592
>not having bones made of induction hardened 4140.
There are no downsides for using something light like chrome moly or titanium.

>> No.9230473

Polystyrene bones when?

>> No.9231670

>>9216010
thank mr skeltal

>> No.9231679

>>9216010
thank mr skeltal

>> No.9231685

Poisoning

>> No.9231692

>>9215802
I honestly dont know how tendons connect to bones but I dint think they can be wrapped around like a dock ring.

>> No.9231696

>>9216010
thank mr skeltal

>> No.9232095

>>9215589
>What would be the downsides to making your bones metal?
Magnets

>> No.9232155

>>9217729
Gotta dream big. Though there's no reason why you couldn't clad the surface of titanium bones with regular bone. Your body isn't going to suddenly need a skeleton's worth of calcium flowing through the system.