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5874378 No.5874378[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

can we throw a camera into a black hole and film whats inside

>> No.5874393

How do you propose viewing the film?

>> No.5874400

>>5874378

nothing comes out of a black hole but Hawking radiation

>> No.5874402

>>5874393
op here, i saw an ad for bt infinity recently they claim to have the fastest broadband

>> No.5874405

op again... should i have kept this a secret so i could get credit. damnit !

>> No.5874411

Throw one of those old timey ones with that cable thing, since electrons don't weigh anything they will escape the quasi-gravitational pull of the supermassive black hole and reverse the polarity on the supercardiatric film on your nearby negatively polarized quantum-powered space ship.

>> No.5874424

>>5874411
i cant afford a spaceship yet, but im going to listen to all these ideas and then test it out

i dont want anyone to steal my idea so im going to go up on a helium balloon and find a little black hole to start off with (i will wear oxygen tank; no worries)

i will then throw in a spy camera

do you think if i use a laptop and then connect the spy camera with extra long usb cable it will work?

maybe even shitty webcam to save budgets

>> No.5874428

>>5874400
Gravity!

>> No.5874433

OP your a fucking dumbass

>> No.5874436

>>5874428

is gravity a force?

>> No.5874441

>>5874436
Id force a social construct?

>> No.5874444

All I can think of is that thing from the one twister movie where they through a bunch of tiny scanners into the tornado
What if we sent in granules of material we could bounce light off of then sped up the black hole so we could shoot in light faster than the speed of light relatively so it could escape and we analyzed that

>> No.5874448

>>5874436
plausible and probable.

>> No.5874456

is there a parallel universe where OP isn't a cock sucking faggot
nope, no there isn't
he's exactly that in all of them

>> No.5874498

>>5874402
Lol'd

>> No.5874515

>>5874424
Yes but make sure you install Gentoo on that laptop first

>> No.5874525

>>5874456
well i was talking to a leading scientist in starbucks today and he said i may be very famous and rich soon

but dont worry ill remember you

also we have made the process a bit more scientific

gonna go up on a chair in a full arrangement of the north face & patagonia

i will have to have a sun umbrella so i dont get too hot from the sun

i will be taking my macbook up there, since mac never fucks up it will be more reliable

with a very long usb cable i will attach a spy camera and throw it into a black hole

i will be getting up into space with a very large helium balloon, because i want people to remember i cared about the earth and didnt cause radiation...

>> No.5874529

>>5874515
im using a mac, those ugly computers arent high-tech enough for the experiment

>> No.5876133

>>5874525
Please update us on your results.

>> No.5876292
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5876292

>>5874433
youre* please anon you're not making this better on yourself

>> No.5876308

We'll just have to wait until nokia starts installing cameras with lights on their phones,

>> No.5877590

>>5876308
Doesn't every camera emit light already?

>> No.5878821

>>5876292
>youre*

If you want to correct someone's spelling, then don't omit the apostrophe. It's "you're".

>> No.5879963

>>5874436
No, gravity is the curvature of space and time.

>> No.5879975

>>5879963
no gravity is the attraction between bodies of mass.

>> No.5880168

>>5876308
>noku

>> No.5880702

>>5879963
Electromagnetism is the curvature of a circle bundle.

>> No.5882002

>>5880702
If every fundamental force can be described as curvature of a fibre bundle, then what curvature is friction?

>> No.5882013

No, cameras don't work in space.

>> No.5882773

>>5882002
That is where dark energy comes into play.

>> No.5884158

>>5882773
Can dark energy be described with imaginary numbers?

>> No.5884207

>>5882002
Bumping thread asked and answered with retardation.
>>5882773
Gets a bite.
>>5884158
And /sci/ just keeps on trucking.

>> No.5884277

>Nikon Coolpix
>film
GTFO

>> No.5884308

>>5878821
>apostrophe
Apostrophes are shit. I don't use them for linguistic reasons.

>> No.5884859

>>5884158
Unfortunately you need quaternions.

>> No.5885100

>>5884308
>Apostrophes are shit.
>I don't use them for autistic reasons.
Noted.

>> No.5885154

>>5884308
>I don't use them
>I don't
>don't
>'

>> No.5885219

>>5879975
>mass
Energy, you meant?

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5885225

>>5885154

>> No.5885417
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>>5879975
you're a body made of mass and noone is attracted to you LOL

>> No.5885424

>>5874378

You know there are 12 year olds that understand why this isn't possible, right? Fucktard.

>> No.5886248

>>5885424
I don't think there are many 12 year olds who understand string theory.

>> No.5887339

>>5886248
Maybe it is too difficult for the twelve year olds, however string theory is a typical topic for the thirteen year olds to study nowadays -
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/68697/matrix-theory-and-things-other-than-d0-branes-and-is-it-non-peturbative-m-the

>> No.5888718

>>5885219
Mass and energy are the same thing. E=MC2

>> No.5889338 [DELETED] 
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5889338

Someone has been keeping at least 35 threads alive
by bumping them twice a day. Compare the post times of
>>5876133 >>5877590 >>5878821 >>5879963 >>5880702 >>5882002
>>5882773 >>5884158 >>5884859 >>5886248 >>5888718
to the post times in other threads.
It's clear most of these are the same person.
The threads being bumped:
>>5858447 >>5861383 >>5862983 >>5863249 >>5865823 >>5866853
>>5867452 >>5867640 >>5868097 >>5868460 >>5868538 >>5869504
>>5869595 >>5869759 >>5869946 >>5872951 >>5873166 >>5873829
>>5874378 >>5874727 >>5875025 >>5876410 >>5876819 >>5878449
>>5878607 >>5878684 >>5878722 >>5880041 >>5880453 >>5880775
>>5881738 >>5883998 >>5884116 >>5884625 >>5885545
Write to moot@4chan.org if you want it to stop.

>> No.5889544

>>5884277
The camera would work fine for a stop motion film.

>> No.5890582

>>5889544
Is a stop motion film of a black hole even possible? I mean think of the time dilation.

>> No.5891310

>>5890582
Maybe we could use multiple cameras.

>> No.5892974

>>5891310
Theoretically a good idea, but it might become too expensive.

>> No.5893017

Successful troll is successful

>> No.5893803

>>5892974
How do we get the funding?

>> No.5893806

>>5893017
Bumping a thread for a week isn't "trolling."

>> No.5894919

>>5893803
It's hard to get funding for a project that doesn't promise much profit.

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5894974

Only in Calcutta.

>> No.5895256

>>5889544
>film
There is no film in a digital camera, pleb.

>> No.5895728

>>5895256
OP's camera is not digital.

>> No.5895753

>>5895728

yes it is.

>> No.5896947

>>5894974
I cannot read your pic. Can you upload a readable version?

>> No.5896969

>>5896947
>Step 3
>Hurr derp de derp blah lol. liek omfg ffg sek...

>> No.5897803

>>5895753
No, it is not. There are not nearly enough digits written on it for it to be considered digital.

>> No.5897918

>>5895728
>nikon-coolpix-p100 is not digital
O RLY

>> No.5897932
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5897932

The largest Schwartz possible is 0. The center is energy, everything else is distance MEASURED.

>> No.5897935

You know that black holes don't have any mass right?

>> No.5899361

>>5897935
I didn't know this. Thanks for the info.

>> No.5899846

>>5897932
>The center is energy
But energy is mass, E=mc2. This would contradict >>5897935.

>> No.5901084

>>5899846
The mass is outsourced via quantum entanglement.

>> No.5901866

>>5901084
Where does it go?

>> No.5903270

>>5901866
Nobody knows. That's why we need to conduct OP's experiment.

>> No.5903511

>>5874378
>doesn't understand the transmittance of information.

>> No.5903979

>>5903270
How will looking at the inside of the black hole with a camera help?

>> No.5905475

>>5903979
It allows us to see the wave functions collapsing.

>> No.5906274

>>5905475
It is clear now. Thank you.

>> No.5907924

>>5903511
How is information transmitted?

>> No.5907942

>>5907924
carefully

>> No.5908620

>>5907942
In what manner?

>> No.5910147

>>5908620
cautiously, safely

>> No.5911892 [DELETED] 

>>5910147
Now I understand.

>> No.5912859

>>5910147
By what mechanism?

>> No.5914209 [DELETED] 

>>5912859
quantum entanglement

>> No.5914859

>>5914209
This must be very fast.

>> No.5916042 [DELETED] 

>>5914859
Yes, actually faster than light. This works because information has no mass.

>> No.5917464 [DELETED] 

>>5916042
Can we encode mass in information and use quantum entanglement for teleportation?

>> No.5919110

>>5917464
It would be possible, but at the same time highly expensive.

>> No.5919139

This thread is exactly what a perfectly planned retard discussion would seem like.

>> No.5919447

>>5874411
Gravity attracts energy, not mass :(


mass just has lots and lots of energy so that's why you notice it
the electrons wouldn't escape soz

>> No.5920159

if nothing can escape a black hole how comes gravity can?

>> No.5920433 [DELETED] 

>>5920159
It can't.

>> No.5920437

Idiot, the mass would crush it.

>> No.5920455

getting tired of seeing your shit, mr shitposter

>> No.5921203

>>5920437
There is not enough mass to do that.

>> No.5922216 [DELETED] 

>>5921203
How much mass would we need?

>> No.5923138

>>5922216
The same amount of mass that would be obtained by traveling at 99.999...% of the speed of light.

>> No.5924103 [DELETED] 

>>5923138
That must be a lot of mass. 99.999...% is almost 100%.

>> No.5924124

>>5924103

but we already know that .999 = 1

so if you can go that fast, that means you can go at the speed of light

>> No.5925476 [DELETED] 

>>5924124
If we can travel at the speed of light, it only takes a little bit of acceleration to go faster than light.

>> No.5926475 [DELETED] 

>>5924124
>false premise

ex falso quodlibet

>> No.5927388

>>5925476
A little bit of acceleration costs a lot of energy.

>> No.5929215 [DELETED] 

>>5927388
A lot of energy costs a lot of money.

>> No.5930898 [DELETED] 

Yes, we can.

>> No.5932186

>>5929215
Thanks to Nikola Tesla it will soon be free.

>> No.5933643 [DELETED] 

>>5932186
If only he lived longer. He would have invented so much more science.

>> No.5934727 [DELETED] 

Sure, why not?

>> No.5935888 [DELETED] 

Black holes are very far away. Nobody can throw a camera that far.

>> No.5937446 [DELETED] 

>>5935888
It is possible but we'll need a lot of energy.

>> No.5939305 [DELETED] 

>>5937446
Thanks to Tesla energy is soon gonna be free.

>> No.5939428

Sure we can, but we are never going to see the footage. There's no way we could retrieve the camera, and it wouldn't be able to send us any data, so it would just be a waste of eletronics.

>> No.5940639 [DELETED] 

>>5939428
>There's no way we could retrieve the camera

What if we tie it to a rope?

>> No.5940745

>>5940639
Good luck creating a rope that is able to get close to a black hole and stay intact and good luck trying to pull that shit back with the cam. The amount of force you would need to pull the camera back is insane.

>> No.5942555 [DELETED] 

>>5940745
>The amount of force you would need to pull the camera back is insane.

We will need a very strong man. Maybe we should ask /fit/.

>> No.5942639

>>5940639
>>5940745
>>5942555

I hope you're all trolling. In case you're not, signals sent up the rope would not be able to escape the event horizon in finite time in the frame of an observer outside the hole.

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5942687

>>5874456

what if there is a universe without cocks?

>> No.5942704

>>5874402
10/10

>> No.5942707

>>5942687
That's just silly to think about

>> No.5942742

>>5942687
I pity the me in that universe never feeling the joy of daily masterbaition.

>> No.5944403 [DELETED] 

>>5942639
That's why we don't just let them travel at their own speed but accelerate the information transmission by pulling at the rope.

>> No.5946546 [DELETED] 

>>5942742
What does this have to do with roosters?

>> No.5946564

>>5874378
The only thing we know for sure is not to use a digital camera.

>> No.5947773 [DELETED] 

>>5946564
Why not? What's the problem with digital cameras?

>> No.5949169 [DELETED] 

>>5947773
They produce a magnetic field.

>> No.5949179

What if we shot particles into the black hole and then shot some kind of wave after them and analyzed the wave

>> No.5949956 [DELETED] 

>>5949179
Might work if the speed of wave is faster than the speed of particle.

>> No.5950276

>>5949956
Really? Thanks Twister movie

>> No.5951231 [DELETED] 

>>5950276
I don't know the Twister movie. Can it help us answering OP's question?

>> No.5952373

>>5874378
Fuck no. The cam would be crushed and annihilated along with anything but paraplegic radiation. Even if the camera wasn't fucked up, you'd see either black or white...or the radiation burn effect.

>> No.5952401

Sage goes in all fields

>> No.5953378 [DELETED] 

>>5952373
>you'd see either black or white

Not surprising. After all it's still a black hole.

>> No.5954717 [DELETED] 

>>5874400
Does Hawking radiation travel faster than light?

>> No.5954747

>>5954717
bumpfag why are you doing this to the board?
pls

>> No.5956030 [DELETED] 

>>5954717
Information can travel faster than light because it has no mass.

>> No.5956944 [DELETED] 

>>5956030
Is this how quantum entanglement works?

>> No.5956962

>>5956030
Nothing can travel faster than the speed of light, including information. Hawking radiation happens at the event horizon, one particle escapes, one gets sucked into the black hole. For some reason the one sucked in is an anti particle and slowly evaporates the black hole.

Just theory

>> No.5957326 [DELETED] 

>>5956962
>Just theory

Only a geuss?

>> No.5959276

>>5956962
Why doesn't the particle fall in the black hole and the anti-particle leaves into our universe?