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>>5869504
0/10

how it's not round, when it's a part of a circle?

It is.
What's not round about π?
A nice round single digit.

If evolution is true, why hast OP been selected out of the gene-pool already?
biologists 0
thiasts 1

>>5869504

it could be if we changed our number system with pie as the radix.

What the fuck is a "round" number?

0/100

0/pi

>>5869532
>radix.
but you would still need a knife to get Pi apples.

>>5870691
Not if you defined π=1

It is in base pi.

>>5870675
You can't divide by an irrational number dood.

OP still thinks pi is an actual "thing".

Why is everyone so dense? It's obviously a pun.

>>5870643
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/RoundNumber.html

>>5869504
Numbers like pi and phi are so called transcendental numbers, means they are bridges or connections between dimensions. Try to squeese ur third eye on this ;)

>>5871416
wat

because pi are squared OP

>>5873627
This

Lines and Round are VERY VERY VERY DIFFERENT

because we have 10 fingers

Yeah, OP, right on!
You should go and fix things. Start with giving yourself a nonintegral number of fingers.

>>5873630

what if you had pi fingers tho

>>5873680
Welcome to the round of lines....

what if a pi of fire smashed into a pi of ice

>>5873683
Ron Paul would cum buckets thats for sure

>>5873683
I do not think numbers are able to collide.

Because math isn't "the language of nature". Math is only a tool.

>>5875370
Sometimes the tool does not have any use.

>>5873683
Then pi would equal 3.09999999...40999999...5926...

>>5869504

because the idea that there's symmetry in nature is a leftover of divine geometry philosophy of the greeks

>>5869504
>If math is the language of nature,
ok
>why isn't pi a round number?
Your question has implied that we would expect pi to be a round number in order for it to be a part of nature.

This doesn't stand up to scrutiny as far as I know.

If you are able, then please continue and describe why you think so. If you are unable then what I said should hopefully be a satisfactory answer to your question.

Pi is not natural, it is man made inside of an oven.

>>5876217
Has it since been reproduced in any other ovens?

>>5876223

Godel's Incomplete grocery list says there's not enough ingredients for a second pi.

>>5876237
But you can make a pie if you multiply pi and e together.

>>5876240

We're talking about math not food.

>>5876243
But food is essentially addition.

>>5876248
Until you serve the pi. Then it is division.

>>5869504
because 2pi is round

pi is 3.14, we just add more numbers to scare plebs

>>5876334
3. 1415 9265 3589 7932 3846 2643 3832 7950 2884 1971 69399

Math is a human construct that is flawed just like any other human construct, but it works to some extend.

>>5876413
To expand upon this idea, pi is the mathematical equivelant of petty little emotions such as "love" and "compassion"... Good for nothing, used by idiots and "great minds" (imposters) alike, and looked down upon by the truly englightened. Pi is worthless and useless, and if you say otherwise you are a child living in an illusory world of your own. You may discard my words, but trust me: Pi is not worth fighting for.

>>5876369
So edgy.

>>5876443

Love and compassion aren't petty nor good for nothing. They're decent neurologic machines to reinforce actions that are beneficial to oneself and society. When love and compassion are coupled to things which harm one's power (and the one things actually values worthy of love), then yeah they could be "good for nothing".

But the tone of your speech is someone who demands the impossible (perfect consistency and knowledge) without realizing the limited nature of all mechanics.

>>5869511
We purposefully protect specimens like OP in case they prove useful for future generations. (And being nice. Nothing good comes from being nice.

>>5870917
you russled me quite well.

>>5870898
That's wrong

>>5869504
It is if you work in the much more natural base pi. It only looks ugly because we work in the artificial base 10.

>>5870898
You mean dividing everything by pi?

>>5877204
There is no "base pi". Stop being edgy. Base is only defined for positive integers.

>>5879952
What definition are you using?

>>5880635
>What definition are you using?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radix

>>5882033
This is not the base change morphism. Thank you.

>>5879952

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-integer_representation

fucking kill yourself

>>5882755
>non-unique representations

Why would anyone use that?

>>5884105
> non-unique representations
> .9999... = 1

>>5876443
>pi
>good for nothing

choose one

>>5884436
>> .9999... = 1
Are you implying this is true?

>>5884834
divide .999... by 3
then do the same for 1

>>5884967
I get 0.333... and 1/3. What now?

>>5886230

.333... is the same as 1/3, just in decimal form.

That's why .999...=1

>>5887265
How would you prove rigorously that they are the same number?

>>5869504
pi is the ratio of the diameter of a circle to its circumference _when drawn on a plane_
if you draw a circle on a surface of nonzero constant curvature, you can make pi whatever you want it to be
so perhaps the notion of a "flat plane" is not a natural one

Someone has been keeping at least 35 threads alive
by bumping them twice a day. Compare the post times of
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to the post times in other threads.
It's clear most of these are the same person.
The threads being bumped:
>>5858447 >>5861383 >>5862983 >>5863249 >>5865823 >>5866853
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>>5878607 >>5878684 >>5878722 >>5880041 >>5880453 >>5880775
>>5881738 >>5883998 >>5884116 >>5884625 >>5885545
Write to moot@4chan.org if you want it to stop.

>>5877195
Why is it wrong?

>>5889306
what do those threads have in common?
it seems pretty random given the topics and discussions in each appear to me like a pretty decent cross section of what we see on /sci/ regularly.

still, i've been noticing this too. And not just on /sci/, on other boards as well.
this is some twilight zone shit.
i'm scared.
hold me...

>>5889551
Where else have you seen it?

>>5889551
Ignore him. He's a schizophrenic retard. /sci/ is just a slow board and people like to take their time in discussions.

>>5889306
Can you please stop trolling, this is a slow board, get used to it

>>5888714
>pi is the ratio of the diameter of a circle to its circumference _when drawn on a plane_
What about a pink \pi like in the OP? What does that mean?

>>5871416
Phi isn't transcendental fucktard. It's a solution of 4x^2-4x-4=0

>>5891767
How is this possible? I thought phi was infinite and irrational.

>>5891767
pic related. solution to yours. not pi.

>>5893102
Infinite and irrational doesn't mean transcendental.

Sqrt(2) for example is infinite and irrational.

However, it's the solution to:
x^2 -2 = 0
making it an algebraic number, not a transcendental number

Why do the shittiest threads get the most attention? Fuck you /sci/.

>>5891767
How would I solve for x?

>>5893361
see
>>5889306

>>5893199
Learn the difference between phi and pi

>difference between phi and pi

phi-pi=h

>>5893880
By h do you mean the planck constant?

>>5893788
You cannot solve the equation. That's why we DEFINED the solution to be phi. Think of how the imaginary unit is defined.

>>5893361
Irregardless of your opinion this is a very interesting math thread.

>>5896875
BUMPSPAMMER