/sci/ - Science & Math

We don't have one. We're random and insignificant.

If you're not a materialist/naturalist you don't belong here.

>>5868106
How can it be random to have so many feels?

>>5868113
Because evolution. Those feelings were vital for our survival.

>>5868147
What you're saying is that everything is meaningless.

This is absurd from many angles.

Meaning is a form of syntax, which is a human concept. So to say that something has meaning is just as meaningful as to say that something has no meaning, that is is completely meaningless. Both statements are equally ridiculous and just reflect one of the many problems with the way we play with words.

>>5868169
No I'm not saying that. Regardless:
>>>/lit/

>>5868173
Well, I'm saying that. And you're silently implying it. I'm just trying to clarify how there is no inherent meaning in things. Things having meaning or not is your interpretation of it.

And I'm not really much of a /lit/ guy.

>>5868182
No I'm not. Fine, interpret away.
Trust me, you're not much of a /sci/ guy either.

>>5868186
How do you know? You hardly know me.

>>5868189
I don't know how to respond to that without being insulting so I won't.

This counts as a monologue.

>>5868192
Are you flirting with me?

Let me try to sum this up, certainly not to sum up the ideas because the ideas are really not that important. They may be true, they may be untrue, they may reside in a domain where those rules don't apply.

Maybe you don't understand ten-dimensional vector calculus, then don't use that tool to understand. Hone the tools that you have and try to create models. Understand that all models are provisional. This is the antidote to the idea of ideology. Ideology is when you believe something passionately. Models are when you dispassionately attempt to define the operation of a system. The word model implies that you are perfectly willing to discard the model when a better model comes along.

I mean, get a grip people, where is it written in adamantane that talking monkeys should be able to understand the universe? If you met a termite who told you that he was on a quest to understand the universe, a certain lip-curling cynicism would ensue. Do you think you're better positioned than that termite to undertake that? To understand what one understands and then to build outward from that. The tools are mathematics, drugs, attention to phenomena, intuition, community and inspiration. These things may not solve your marital problems or increase your earning power, but they will put you in touch with the larger dynamic of being.

>>5868097
I noticed the Rouses bag. Are you a fellow Louisianian? Or us that not your photo.

>>5868097
seems more appropriate for >>>/phil/

>>5869097
Except there is no >>>/phil/

what is there to discover we live procreate then die. We're just nuclear waste

>>5869581
>We're just nuclear waste

No, we're not. Do you even know what nuclear waste is?

>>5869568
There should be. It would make a great board.

existence is a function with multiple outputs for the same input.

>>5871404
http://7chan.org/phi/

>>5871425
I do not understand. Please elaborate.

>>5871595
What is 7chan?

>>5871595
I havnt gone there yet, be gentle with them

>>5871595
Don't go there. It's slower and more retarded than /sci/.

>>5870636
Maybe she used the term metaphorically.

>>5876181
In that case it was a bad metaphor.

I got this one for you OP.

Nihilism.

>>5877641
Is it an official logo or your own graphic design?

>>5877641
That's not how you write an N.

>>5875357
>more retarded than /sci/
Why? What do they discuss?

>>5873186
>>5873772
>>5875357
>>5876181
>>5877621
>>5878832
>>5879977
Spammers like this don't go away on their own. If you're annoyed by the periodic bumping of these threads, you need to send an email to moot so he can fix the issue.

>>5880662
Is this a troll post or are you mentally ill? People are having an on-topic conversation ITT. If you don't like it, then hide and ignore the thread.

>>5868169
Let me answer your question, ryoka boy.
Existence is a part of my keikaku. Life plays a big role as well. Watch and look, as we approach.

>>5882207
>keikaku
I do not know what this is.

>>5868106
>>5868113
>random

Evolution is not random. Retrospectively it might appear random, but its processes are deterministic.

>>5868207
>If you met a termite who told you that he was on a quest to understand the universe
Termites do not have the intellectual capacity to do that.

>>5884818
Termites can behave intelligently. Look up swarm intelligence.

>>5882737
You do not need to know.
/spoiler/Translator's note: "keikaku" means "plan"/spoiler/

Do you mean for everyone individually? I think the discovery is spiritual more than anything. At the moment I feel like I know what my place is in this world, but I could be wrong about it.

>>5868169
Deep

What do you mean "true nature of our existence?" Like some sort of poetic/romantic corny bullshit explanation that makes us feel good?

>>5886148
How many termites would we need?

>>5884101
And what makes determinism non-random?

>>5869568
Try /lit/. It works as a humanities/arts analysis board occasionally.

>>5887774
/lit/ doesn't like philosophy either.

Someone has been keeping at least 35 threads alive
by bumping them twice a day. Compare the post times of
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to the post times in other threads.
It's clear most of these are the same person.
The threads being bumped:
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