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It's so fucking over. Wokeism and censorship have taken over the math community.

I just searched duckduckgo with the following prompts
>"criticism of complex numbers"
>"complex numbers are flawed"
>"arguments against complex numbers"
>"complex numbers were a mistake"
and each search returned zero (in letters: 0) results!

This is not okay. I know the "complex number" dogma has been pushed to become mainstream. But now they are actively censoring criticism.

>> No.16134708

>>16134704
it has taken over everything since the 2010s. now is just the symtomp showing. the first "black" president did a wonder on all of the institutions.
will take decades to remove those garbage incompetent affirmative action and DEI woke hires from the leadership positions. enjoy the next few decades sucking China dick. fuck the tranny boomers for facilating this shit. they should just unironically kill themselves instead of spending trillion in printed debt clinging to life and screw up the younger generation even more.

>> No.16134717

How can a formal construct be a mistake. Are the rules of chess a "mistake" also? You should get banned for this bait honestly.

>> No.16134733

>>16134704
Question: are you a fascist?

>> No.16134736

>>16134717
>it's a formal construct, just like gender
>I don't care that it's epistemologically, aesthetically, ontologically and morally wrong
... and then he threatens OP with censorship, the very thing OP complained about.

>> No.16134738

>>16134704
Wokeism? What does awareness of the existence of racism (white supremacy) have to do with math?

>> No.16134746

>>16134738
According to the official definition used by the Republican party, "woke" actually refers to "the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them"

>> No.16134761

>>16134733
Let's see. I dislike nationalism, I hate militarism and I will never accept any leader. One could say I'm the opposite of a fascist.

>> No.16134763

>>16134761
>One could say I'm the opposite of a fascist.
You're an anarcho-communist?

>> No.16134769

>>16134704
>Wokeism and censorship have taken over the math community.
I warned everyone here nearly a decade ago. The mouth breathers here said it was relegated to the social sciences/humanities and would never affect STEM. Always remember this board, and society in general, is full of morons and when someone takes the time to warn you about something, pay attention to what they are telling you. Also I am always right

>> No.16134786

>>16134763
I am beyond any -ism. In particular I reject the "complex number"-ism.

>> No.16134797

>>16134786
>I am beyond any -ism.
Sincerely doubt that. For one, you bitch about "wokeism".

>> No.16134802

>>16134738
Whites supremacy in the modern period is obviously true. Denying it is like denying Turco-Mongol military supremacy in Medieval Asia.

You can either think "interesting, what caused such success? What lessons can I learn from that?" or you can take it personally and try to drag others down instead of building up because of a sense of jealousy. Just let that stuff go, man

>> No.16134804

>>16134746
Replacing white supremacy with "injustice"? Nice. FWIW, the left also uses the same tricks.
I especially like the the substitution of "belief" for "awareness".
Like, I merely "believe" there's a keyboard and monitor in front of me right now.

>> No.16134805

>>16134802
>You can either think "interesting, what caused such success? What lessons can I learn from that?"
Are you seriously telling other to treat white people as white people have treated them?

>> No.16134806

>>16134804
Right, sorry, so I guess I meant "the awareness that there are systemic injustices etc."?

>> No.16134807

>>16134805
>Are you seriously telling other to treat white people as white people have treated them?
This is a big part of the problem. This bizarre view of people as monolithic groups. People are individuals, man. Yeah the way a specific man has treated you should definitely influence how you treat him to some extent.

The way someone distantly related to someone else a long time ago treated some other guy slightly less distantly related to you shouldn't influence your behavior today; that would be like me hating some guy from Mongolia

>> No.16134811

>>16134802
>You can either think "interesting, what caused such success? What lessons can I learn from that?"
But this is exactly what it means to be woke. And this is exactly what I encourage nonwhite people to do.

>Just let that stuff go, man
Self-respect means, first and foremost, being uncompromisingly truthful with yourself. Pretending that the system of racism / white supremacy does not exist demonstrates a serious lack of self-respect. To do so is as bad as engaging in drug use, crime, and other nonconstructive activities like what black people all over the world are constantly doing.

>> No.16134813

>>16134811
>Pretending that the system of racism / white supremacy does not exist
White supremacy is a fact of the country right now. A randomly selected white person is probably going to be more useful and productive than a randomly selected black person. Why pretend that isn't true? We should take the world as it is, not the way we wish it were.

>> No.16134814

>>16134807
Alternatively, we can dismantle white supremacy not to "turn the tables" on white people as a monolith but because it is an injust system. This has nothing to do with you personally or as a representative of a "race".

>> No.16134816

>>16134814
>we can dismantle white supremacy
Bucket of crabs. This is how you make Haiti and Zimbabwe.

>> No.16134819

>>16134816
It ahs nothing to do with dragging others down and everything to do with building others up. Acknowledge that you are benefiting from an unjust system and that others deserve to benefit as well. The fact that you are NOT personally culpable should favourably incline you towards this.

>> No.16134822

>>16134819
How do you define "just" and "unjust"?

>> No.16134823

>>16134805
ah yes, because non-whites have always been perfect little angles who didn't do nuffin. I hate losers with victim complexes like you with a passion. Which people are you referring to exactly? Be very specific so I can search their entire history to confirm that they are indeed perfect angels who never wronged white people or any other race (including their own), at any time in history

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>>16134814
What system is "white supremacist?" Be very specific. Because you are referring to white nations and their laws you can leave anytime for whatever brown shithole you desire. Everything that you have that separates you from animals and makes your worthless life worth living came from "white supremacy." You can go back to mud hits and 50% infant mortality any time you want. Of course that isnt what you want, you love white supremacy and all the wonderful perks that come with it, you just want to take things you didnt earn.

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>>16134807
>This bizarre view of people as monolithic groups.
This was the whole point.
For example, a french, a brit, a dutch, and a spaniard get together, and say, "we are white", as a unifying principle. When politically expedient, they redefine white and loop in other groups, such as italians and irish. It is a very powerful and logical concept and is the most powerful system ever seen by the world. So much wealth was derived from it, men who classified themselves as white even walked on the surface of the Moon.

>The way someone distantly related to someone else a long time ago treated some other guy slightly less distantly related to you shouldn't influence your behavior today
Agreed. But the way the system treats a nonwhite person, today, influences his behavior, today.

For example,
>Pic related
Back in the day the master would pick a slave and promote him, and bring him into the big house, to personally serve the master and also to help monitor the slaves.
As they called slaves "boy" back then, nowadays you still have a rappers calling themselves dogg, boy, lil', yung, thug, nignog, bow wow, etc.
The same media promoted and funded the production of videos and songs about the worst animal behaviors.

And yet country music radio stations refused to play a song about a girl saying she touches herself. Certainly they wouldn't let you sing about slinging meth to drug addicts for personal profit, because as they said, those aren't their "values."

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>>16134717
the complex numbers of chess moves.

>> No.16134853

>>16134813
Yes, that's what I'm saying.

>>16134816
Haiti and Zimbabwe have been made examples of to show how direct opposition to always white supremacy ends.
There is no nation on Earth that does not ultimately answer to white power. Not even one.

>>16134827
Sobran is an excellent example of the white supremacist code in practice. He is surely aware that slavery has not disappeared, and more importantly that it is white people who are the minority on the planet. But he sticks to the misdirection and confusion as key elements of the strategy. Almost perfect; but, he slipped and inadvertently admitted that the superiority the white man presents is but an image. B- quote

>> No.16134862

>>16134704
You say it like some kind of last bastion has fallen. Math cucks never understood the importance of reality. Even physicist are more grounded.

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>>16134853
>Sobran is an excellent example of the white supremacist code in practice.
What did he say that isnt true?

>He is surely aware that slavery has not disappeared,
Yes, only in white countries. In Africa and the middle east there are more slaves than ever.

>importantly that it is white people who are the minority on the planet.
He said "call minorities" implying that is a misnomer. Wow you are legit fucking retarded, who would have thought?

>But he sticks to the misdirection and confusion as key elements of the strategy.
retard word salad, quaint

>but, he slipped and inadvertently admitted that the superiority the white man presents is but an image
What are white people not superior at? Make a detailed list

still waiting for you to answer these >>16134823
>>16134827

<crickets>

>> No.16134867

>>16134814
my condolences, you are in a cult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfwMpxhrCYE

>> No.16134869

>>16134837
you are in a cult >>16134867

>> No.16134871

>>16134853
sorry, but you are in a cult >>16134867

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>>16134853
>What are white people not superior at? Make a detailed list
In fact I will make it even easier. What race are you? Make a list for us all that shows how your race is superior to Aryans

>> No.16134874

>>16134823
>non-whites have always been perfect little angles who didn't do nuffin.
Not that guy, but what you present is a straw man.
Of course, nonwhite people have been far from angels. We are merely analyzing and contrasting their behavior against that of the white people, who dominate the entire planet despite being a tiny minority on it.

>or any other race (including their own)
This is a key point. I make this comment for any nonwhite person in this thread, not to you, because I know there is nothing I can teach a white person about racism, any more than I can teach, say, Garry Kasparov about chess.
The concept of "attacking one's own race" made no sense to them, because they did not practice racism. Instead, they attacked and made war on each others nations/tribes, selling each other as slaves to the white supremacists for short-term profit. Even now, Africans rarely express solidarity with other so-called "black" people around the world.

>> No.16134875

>>16134704
>the "complex number" dogma
stop being retarded, and if you plan to continue, do it outside the net
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtIsYbYdzCI

>> No.16134876

>>16134704
So is /sci/ just a psuedo /pol/?

>> No.16134879

>>16134874
you are in a cult >>16134867

>> No.16134880

>>16134876
Is fag just a FAGGY fag- OP?(You)

>> No.16134882

>>16134876
the mod's what it so

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>>16134874
It isn't a strawman, it is in fact a response to a strawman. Every race on this planet has been warring with themselves and every other race on this planet since time began. You are just jealous that white people are better at it than yours. This moron of course bring up slavery, as all these half wit cultists do, as if brown people never enslaved white people and white people werent the ones who ended the global slave trade.

>he concept of "attacking one's own race" made no sense to them, because they did not practice racism. Instead, they attacked and made war on each others nations/tribes
>people who never invented the means to travel long distance to where other races lived never practices 'racism"
Holy fucking shit you are stupid. What do you think "tribes" are? They are the same thing as races in this context. You are a fucking idiot same as him, so you might as well be the same person. Answer the questions, we are all waiting

>> No.16134895

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