/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15430107
All you want to talk about is trannies

>>15430107
it would be racist to disagree, so i have to concur

>>15430107
>Changed 'IQ tests' for 'transgender medicine'
>The "intellectuals" of /sci/ bought it at face value
Simple yet effective.

>>15430107
Its part of the broader ideology to depopulate humans from Earth so that elites can rule over a group of ~100M more easily.

Eating bugs, forced sterilization of children without parent involvement, ideological subversion to promote this sterilization as "humane" to parents who give in to the ideology, radicalization of youth through education system thats written/controlled by the elites, and the political/financial instituting mandatory sterilization of population.

>>15430107
Yes very based. Tell the masses about John Money!

>>15430107
its called hegelian science, you would not get it, chud

Dr. Blackie makes a good point

>>15430107
Im genuinely asking here, why is gender dysphoria, which is literally classified as a mental disorder, treated on the anatomical/surgical level and not on the psychological/neurochemical level?
How did this become medical consensus exactly? Were any serious treatment modalities other than trying to morph the patients' healthy bodies into a poor imitation of the opposite sex ever tried or tested?

Summed it up very accurately. Good for him. Meanwhile I will get another 90 minute long gender identity lecture in didactics next month where someone will likely again claim that puberty blockers are 100% side effect free and 100% reversible without providing any statements to back those claims up

Gender affirming treatment, when backed by confirmation of a dysphoria diagnosis and significant counseling, dramatically increases quality of life and dramatically decreases suicide rate.
Simple as.

>>15431818
You can reshape the body a whole hell of a lot easier than reshaping the brain.

>>15431949
>source
>my ass

>>15431957
Do you really need a source for that concept?
What drug or surgery could safely turn a male brain into a female brain or vice-versa?

>>15431967
i think such a drug is much more plausible than one which turns a sperm-producing testicle into an ovum-producing ovary

neuroplasticity is a thing. gamete-production has nothing even close

>>15431967
Testosterone, estrogen.

>>15432260
Treatment for gender dysphoria does not require sexual viability for efficacy. It demonstrably increases quality of life and decreases suicide rate.
>Neuroplasticity is a thing
It sure is. It's also totally irrelevant to tje brain's sexual dimorphism.
>>15432278
Testosterone and estrogen will not turn a male brain female or vice-versa

>>15431934
It's easy to say something is side effect free when you're looking for a destructive effect.

>>15432289
>>Neuroplasticity is a thing
>It sure is. It's also totally irrelevant to tje brain's sexual dimorphism.
>source
>my ass

Surgery for body dysmorphias is unconscionable. They have cluster b personality disorders along with psychosis and should be given antipsychotics

>>15430119

Compelled speech effects everyone

redpill me on step 2 ck

>>15432597
>only 220
I don't want to be rude but what are doing man?

>>15432985
I haven't started studying for CK yet. It's just a baseline result.

>>15433005
Oh, okay. Keep up the good work then, fren.

>>15431967
But men who think that they are women still have male brains. You don't want to turn them into female brains, you want to make them stop thinking that they are female

>>15433064
But that's wrong.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7415463/#:~:text=It%20is%20known%20that%20the%20structure%20of%20male%20and%20female,gender%20to%20which%20they%20identify.

The increased prevalence of gender dysphoria in males is well explained by the feminizing impact of phthalates and microplastics in-utero
It correlates with reduced anogenital distance

>>15431934
Understand that when the studies say "reversible" they mean "it stops doing the thing it does when you stop taking it," and has nothing to do with reversing the consequences of its long-term use.
>but that’s a terribly misleading statement
Yes it is.

>>15433026
how should one study for CK?

>>15432314
that surgery is unethical only if the patient survives

>>15433929
i would argue vaginoplasty is ethical if and only if the neovagina is constructed from prefrontal cortical tissue

>transgender medicine
>chemically and physically castrates homosexuals
I fail to see the problem. I hope it continues. I hate all homosexuals and wish the worst for them.

>>15432314
Reddit conservacuck moment. I'm glad they're chopping faggots naughty bits off. The chance of them molesting and raping goes drastically down. It should be a mandatory procedure for all gays.

>>15434609
What percentage are homosexual? Isn't it far lower than the number of heterosexual?

>>15434609
also a lot of them die of post surgical infection, thats a huge bonus

>>15431818
>Were any serious treatment modalities other than trying to morph the patients' healthy bodies into a poor imitation of the opposite sex ever tried or tested?
That's unethical and against human rights chud, just chopping the naughty bits and then studying self reported quality of life against no alternative treatment other than psychotherapy that has to affirm the patients identity is solid medical research

>>15430107
Wow a twitter rando has a hot take, stop the presses everyone
Anyone who pays Musk 8 bucks is a loser

>>15433228
Well if you intend "reversible" to mean anything else then your standard is that it has to be able to turn back time, so I'm not sure your definition is the more honest one

>>15430107
no, he added transgender medicine to the top
Honestly is irrelevant all science is conducted this way Especially medical science.

>>15430879
>a group of ~100M more easily.
why smaller number makes it easier?
Considering the ordo ab chao people just get the chao and never the ordo i dont think these naive inbreds are as smart as you think

>>15433073
Yes, the perfectly understood area of brain function. Yes distribution over a spectrum with both sexes occupying the extrems on average with significant overlapp, of course gender dysphoria patients in the overlapp category absolutely have female brains, very reasonable statement not at all missleading

>>15435166
If you give a prostate patients finasteride and tell him the effects are reversible, and then he comes back with persistent sexual dysfunction after stopping the mediciation, telling him "The effects of the medication did reverse, what you have is post finasteride syndrom" might come of as dishonest to the patient. When people hear "reversible" they usually understand "no lasting changes", that this is not usually the case with a lot of medications is clear to anyone in the field, but it's still dishonest to seperate these categories entirely, especially if the consequences are as significant as they often are with hormonal treatments

>>15430879
What will the future genome of the human race ever dooooo without all the low IQ, high narcissism, Munchhausen, high oversocialization score gene lines permanently weeded out in a preternatural global drive to fully extirpate bottom-tier desirability phenotypes that in previous centuries were guaranteed continuance for just being warm bodies with either holes, or arms.

>>15435179
>I see your medical science and raise you my personal ignorance
Well done.

>>15435264
>"WELL THEY HAVE FEMALE BRAINS LOOK AT THE STUDY"
>extremly small number of participants in the first place
>GD participants don't even fall into the same categorical distribution as those of without it
>"SEE FEMALE BRAINS!"
This is the point again, as if it's a breathtaking discovery that people with GD have aberant brain anatomy, it's the "gays have feminized brains!" studies all over again. Making the claim they have "female" brains because the data allows to define a spektrum through the two solid data points we have from males and female is pretty big jump in the first place, and then making some factitious statement like "Male body, Female Brain" when the results don't even support it is an even bigger leap.

>>15435418
this. also if you accept this argument, it amounts to saying trannies are actually suffering from an intersex disorder, with an observable diagnostic signature, which undermines completely the idea that “self-identification” is a valid concept

>>15430672
Wow it’s almost as if trannies and IQ tests are different things entirely

>>15435418

>>15436532
does this correct for body weight? obviously males are larger so looking at the percentage brain mass of body mass is more relevant

>>15436665
Is there any fat storage in brain like there is in the rest of the body? I mean is there a significant difference between the weight of brain in a slim guy vs a fat guy?

its the lobotomy of our time, but way worse.

>>15436947

>>15436947
Lobotomies worked, the literature overwhelmingly indicates they did. It caused an IQ loss of about 5 points which is actually acceptable loss for the majority of patients it was performed on. The worst press came from their use on intellectually disabled people for whom even a slight IQ loss is enough to render them totally unfuctional. You posted a word salad Twitter shit and failed to explain how it's worse than a procedure that actually worked.

>>15430107
why dont you get the fuck off twitter and go back to treating symptoms.

oh boy this jeremy shaw sounds like anti lgbt, sounds like hes the doctor i send my children to lol.

"medicine" is a joke.
this nigger aint going to change that.

>>15436532
Of course you have data points for sex differences in morphology, but to then define that as a spectrum with specific functionality is a leap, going even further and assigning conditions outside the norm to this spectrum and defining them to the presupposed functionality of that spectrum is the really bogus part. I might as well say cerebellar agensis in males means they actually just have female brains. This get's more complex the more specific you get into the differences in morphology, but the sentiment remains the same.

Hate standardized patients so fucking much

>>15437156

>>15432310
>say something retarded
>ask for source to debunk retarded point
genius model really

>>15436965
>Lobotomies worked, the literature overwhelmingly indicates they did.
Then why haven't you lobotomized yourself yet, troonster?

>>15430107
he is 100% correct

>>15430107

>>15439291
>make publications a BIG part of CVs
>people without publications think their education is wasted
>half-ass research to fill the part on CV
>... ̶p̶r̶o̶f̶i̶t̶ loss

>>15430879
>>15435171
it's not about control, it's because the elites don't want too many useless eaters polluting their garden world and consuming everything they like. the elites want to eat caviar on the veranda forever and overpopulation is threatening their cushy way of life. this is the thrust of the green agenda and population and consumption control. they will topple nations so they can live comfortably.

>>15430119
It's all what trannies want to talk about as well

>>15439357
Agenda 21 keeps forgetting that moar people = moar money.

>>15439357
It is about control, trannys and faggots are all pedo, which means that they can all be easily controlled via blackmail and easily gotten rid of when they're not compliant

>>15439357
Its all about control.

The vaccine mandates are 110% about control. Control through fear, control through subversion, control through narrative control, control through censorship, control through fraudulent documentation, control through falsification of data, control through cherry picking of data, control through obfuscation of origins, control through gaslighting, etc

>>15440926
they made a $10 trillion profit using their means of control. organized crime

>>15441215