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15405534 No.15405534 [Reply] [Original]

What parts of science are demonstrably true and whats parts are believed only because they have been asserted repeatedly?

OP is heterosexual so he starts with this example:
It is demonstrably true that orbits in galaxies do not follow the pattern predicted by general relativity, anyone with a large enough telescope and the appropriate instrumentation can see that.
Dark matter is the explanation for this only because it has been asserted repeatedly for the past half century.

>> No.15405546

>>15405534
Nothing is demonstrably true. Everything relies on assumptions that only seem reasonable because they have been asserted repeatedly.

>> No.15405583

Do Endoplasmic Reticulum exist?

>> No.15406827

>>15405546
>Nothing is demonstrably true
What about having to breathe to stay alive

>> No.15406843

>>15405534
>demonstrably true
communicating vessels
>whats parts are believed only because they have been asserted repeatedly?
earth is a sphere (imperfect stretched sphere to be exact)

don't get me wrong, I'm not saying earth isn't a sphere, just that most people haven't tested it but believe it because it's a widespread fact.

two examples out of many.

>> No.15406850

>>15405534
Consccouisness is the only ture

>> No.15406857

>>15406827
I can't breathe.

>> No.15406868

>>15405546
>Everything relies on assumptions
is true but doesn't imply
>Nothing is demonstrably true
because conditional claims are still true. "If all my assumptions are correct, then this is the case" can be demonstrably true.

>> No.15407177

>>15405534
>whats parts are believed only because they have been asserted repeatedly?
>OP is heterosexual

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>>15405546
Atheist hate the idea of truth because atheists are all liars.

>> No.15407947

>>15405546
Asserted? No, we just draw truth from observations that repeat. Idk what that has to do with assertions.

>> No.15407967

>>15407947
>draw truth from observations
That's an assertion of modus ponens.

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>>15407967
>That's an assertion of modus ponens.

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>>15405534
>What parts of science are demonstrably true and whats parts are believed only because they have been asserted repeatedly?

There are no racial or sexual differences in intelligence.

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>>15405534
>It is demonstrably true that CO2 is not a "greenhouse gas" because there is no greenhouse effect on Mars
>Global warming is only believed because it has been asserted incessantly for the past 35 years.

>> No.15411249

>>15405534
>What parts of science are demonstrably true
There are only two genders
and whats parts are believed only because they have been asserted repeatedly?
Tranny faggot lies

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>>15405546
Wrong

>> No.15413291

>>15405534
Wave particle duality is asserted when the double split experiment doesn't illustrate it directly.

>> No.15413408

Earthly Diversity of Life comes from evolutionary mechanisms. Asserted repeatedly but never to be seen. Commonly cited examples are butterflies, beaks, viral mutations and bacterial resistance. Notice the consistent use of the same examples, yet none of them showcase evolution in the sense of speciation and macro evolution. The idea that perhaps it explains some things but not all things as it is not a powerful enough mechanism(s), is never to be mentioned publicly. It is also used to explain everything while providing no details at all. Evolution of the gaps.

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>>15407939

>> No.15414630

>>15407939
holy shit shut the fuck up if you have nothing meaningful to say you fucking preacher

>> No.15414656

>>15405534
Most of beliefs are false (that is why they're spelled like that (with lie in it)) and this is the sole reason why kikes are scared of ai being able to check for consistency every single belief there is.

>> No.15414658

>>15406827
anaerobic organisms block your path

>> No.15414662

>>15414630
>preacher
I read it as predator. And it made perfect sense.

>> No.15414737

>>15414630
Atheist hate the idea of truth because atheists are all liars.

>> No.15414755

>>15405534
Dark matter/energy has been the biggest cope of physics for the last fifty years.

>> No.15414759

>>15412575
2nd panel door

>> No.15415171

>>15405534

>whats parts are believed only because they have been asserted repeatedly?

Materialism

>> No.15415598

>>15414755
Its science dogma, they'll run you out of the profession for alternative theories

>> No.15416309

>>15415598
I don’t know if they’re that zealous about it, but it’s certainly been unhealthy for the field.
After all this time they still can’t find a shred of evidence for it that isn’t “well our models don’t work unless we assume it’s there,” but now people are moving on and developing theories under the assumption that dark matter is true. There’s getting to be a significant frame of work that’s all built upon a theory that’s still nowhere near conclusive.

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>> No.15417360

>>15405546
>Nothing is demonstrably true.
Facts about abstract objects and hypotheticals can be demonstrably true.
>Everything relies on assumptions
Some facts can be grasped directly, for example the fact that experience exists.
>that only seem reasonable because they have been asserted repeatedly.
This is not a valid reason to believe anything. Scientific knowledge is supposed to be based on empirical evidence, which is uncertain, but should still change your credence of certain facts.

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global warming is fake
covid-19 is fake
9001 genders is fake
soience is fake
god is real
jesus is real
the bible is real
the 10 commandments are real
your soul is real, if you've already sold it jesus will help you retrieve it
angels are real, the cleaned up sodom & gomorrah, they cleaned up weimar germany
hell is real

>> No.15417753

>>15405534
>whats parts are believed only because they have been asserted repeatedly?
The speed of light is constant with respect to any observer. Lmao the state of soiyence.

>> No.15417763

>>15410048
>Entire nations could be wiped out if we do not reverse climate change by 2000
We did not reverse climate change by 2000
Entire nations are being wiped out

I fail to see how this prediction is inaccurate.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/cop26-island-nations-risk-climate-change-struggle-make-point-rcna4912

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Helene is not the mother. Helene is the sister.

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>>15419084
ice age incoming

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>>15417753
speed of light is a function of density of space

>> No.15421229

>>15405534
>>15406843
Your post about the round earth points out a third category belief: Things that are believed, not because they are demonstrated directly, but because they are the most reasonable explanation of things demonstrated indirectly.

>> No.15421232

>>15405534
>It is demonstrably true that orbits in galaxies do not follow the pattern predicted by general relativity
Fucking retard. Outer galaxy rotation is in the Newtonian limit.

>> No.15421461

>>15421232
i can't tell that you're emotional triggered by your use of profanity, why don't you take a while to calm down so that you can discuss science on a strictly rational basis rather than getting all emotional about it

>> No.15421498

>>15414737
>beLIEf
your handlers laugh at you, goy

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>>15421498

>> No.15423425

>>15415598
No they won't, only people who work in those fields will.
Cosmology is a meme field anyway, its impossible (and ultimately pointless) to make conclusions on that stuff when you cannot physically take measurements of what you are studying.
This retarded board thinks all of physics is cosmology, general relativity and string theory while the vast majority of physicists don't care about that stuff

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I was about to post about him
What does pic related mean. I little jhonny an npc?

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>>15423426
emotionally manipulating college age children is extremely easy, they are all npcs, emotionally driven beasts. thats why the voting age was lowered to 18

>> No.15425534

>>15405534
global warming is fake
CO2 causing ice ages by effectively increasing albedo via organic processes is real

>> No.15426502

>>15419728
see
>>15425534

>> No.15426674

>>15417763
>Entire nations are being wiped out
they are not, and most certainly certainly not by muh climate change

>> No.15427811

>>15405546
Atheist hate the idea of truth because atheists are all liars.

>> No.15428413

>>15405534
Sowell is the GOAT

>> No.15428596

>>15427811
facts are the enemy of someone with no rigid beliefs

>> No.15428630

>>15405534

I mean... the... BiG BaNg is obviously true cause the pope said so and you will get black listed if you disagree

>> No.15429860

>>15428630
>big bang
atheistic rewrite of the book of genesis

>> No.15430599

>>15428630
did the pope really say that? heresy

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>>15430599
pope is the antichrist according to john napier

>> No.15432555

>>15431444
Napier's analogies are demonstrably true, you just need some string, a ruler, a protractor and a sphere to confirm them

>> No.15433778

>>15405534
true: white male superiority
repetition: muh equality as stated in the usa constitution - which is a modern day religious document for political atheists

>> No.15433792

>>15405534
So, trans men/women are real men/women is in the latter category. It's only made worse by actually intelligent people and scientists falling for this sophistry.

>> No.15433801

>>15431444
Literally who?

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>>15433801
marvelous merchiston, the greatest mathematician in all of human history. lmao that /sci/ never heard of him, you know all about black soience man and a long list of jewish names, but never learned about napier

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>>15405534
geocentrism is true
heliocentrism has been asserted repeatedly

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>>15436281
he is talking about academic scientists in this one

>> No.15437941

Thomas Sowell is the real black science man

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>>15438758
NDT isn't even the best Tyson science man

>> No.15440647

>>15405534
galactic redshifts are measurable, the big bang is believed only because it has been asserted repeatedly

>> No.15440652

>>15405534
It is demonstrably true that Hitler killed 6 million jews
It is repeatedly asserted that the Holocaust was a hoax

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>>15440652

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>>15405534
99.99% of modern science is false.
You have to be pretty delusional and arrogant to believe mankind can grasp the laws of the Universe.

>> No.15442352

>>15441197
99.99% of modern science students are arrogant to the point of being delusional