/sci/ - Science & Math

Bumpbros...
We did it...

Orbital test failure strawpoll

https://strawpoll.com/polls/ajnEOeNXAZW

Give me the scoop on FTL. It’s over, isn’t it?

https://www.youtube.com/live/Wj9RV3TaSWg?feature=share
GET IN GET IN GET IN GET IN FUUUUUUUUUCK

First for USSF

Slava Intel SpaceX reports that 14 workers were killed in the elevator explosion

>>15355284
what is this gay shit kill yourself

First for 18 inch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9J3k2rjYXA&t=12830s
open in new tab

TWO MORE WEEKS
ANOTHER 14 DAYS LEFT
ONLY A FORTNIGHT AWAY
HALF A MONTH YET TO PASS

>>15355281
I bumped one just about to die

>>15355284
SN8 style. 95% successful, with SpaceX stuck on the last issue for several flights

>>15355285
You don’t need negative mass energy or whatever meme FTL
Just develop a 1g acceleration drive. You can go ANYWHERE within a lifetime. Yeah time dilation will fuck you over and you’ll return to Earth like 50,000 years in the future—but you can still go anywhere

>>15355296
I bumped several threads

>>15355290
there was an option to disable that somehow?
its been a long time since I used strawpoll

>>15355289
Centaur V returned to the VAB under its own power

i do look like this

>>15355303
No idea but it still triggers without incognito mode
Extensions ftw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qo78R_yYFA

Current poll results (don't want to link it to the post so people don't see it before voting)

>>15355305
They’re doing it ironically

>>15355302
king

>>15355281
tyfys

>>15355302
the hero we didn't really need to be honest

The tiles will be the end of us

>>15355314
obviously

>>15355285

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scharnhorst_effect

>>15355320
time for blunt starship

are media invites even going out?

>>15355311
Holy fuck it will for sure ignite and separate cleanly, assuming it doesn’t scrub. Any problem is going to be a) explosion before leaving the pad, b) some upper SS engine fuckup where nothing ignited after stage sep, c) tiles falling off causing reentry failure

>>15355287
>commentated NSF stream
you should kill yourself already

>>15355325
no why would they?
anybody they'd want there is already going to be there of their own volition

>>15355316
Okay michael jackson was actually pretty good looking before the surgery went too far

>>15355308
>orbital refueling above Northern Europe when launching towards Mars
I hope somebody got fired for that blunder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9J3k2rjYXA


The only upcoming launch is this dinky little sounding rocket.

Last night's heavy crash from the OLIT is going to delay the Starship test launch for at least 2 weeks. There was heavy damage where it landed.

>>15355326
it's using an unprecedented, untested method of stage separation

>>15355326
>and separate cleanly
it uses a novel separation approach that is also impossible to test on the ground.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH IM LIFTIIIIIIIING

>>15355330
He was a hilarious guy nonetheless
>>15355335
Isn’t it “flinging” the upper stage or some shit?

>>15355327
? YOU DONT WANT TO MISS THIS TRUST ME

>>15355333
>approaching a fueled vehicle
kek what are they doing

>>15355341
MJ had horseshoe opposite bogging, if you get what I mean

Stacking is underway.

any /sfg/ bros in the nsf chat?

>48 killed in counterweight collapse
holy shit its over

>wheelie doodad
quality comms

>>15355347
>using a jewtube account
i shiggy diggy

>>15355347
>any /sfg/ bros in the nsf chat?
kill yourself

>>15355347
Yeah I was making fun of euros a couple of minutes ago. I either do that or post translated messages in Russian and watch everyone lose their minds

SHIP 24 IS AIRBORNE GET IN HERE BRUVS DONT BE NONCES

>>15355356
stream?

>>15355287
remove "?feature=share" when you post links here so they embed nigger

>>15355351
>commentary
you are doing this to yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

>>15355349
There's no way. Where did you hear that??

>>15355354
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU HAAAVE TO SPEAK ENGLISH

>>15355360
he's talking about the actual rocket launch >>15355333

>>15354954
>>15354902
People often forget Yangel's R-56 proposal (of OKB-586, the modern ukrainian Yuzhnoye) for the soviet launcher bid; particularly the early 4-4-1 design; it was a modular approach that could lift 40-70 tons to LEO; a good payload for moonshots, it also could be transported by rail from Dnipro to Baikonur, contrary to the other heavy launcher proposals. But even the 6 meters monobloc version would have been pretty interesting, and a lot of its parts could be transported by canal from ukraine to baikonur.
The great thing is that Glushko was already working with him and they got along well together, and unlike Chelomei he isn't going to be sidelined once Khrushchev is deposed.

>>15355360
I mean the Deneb stream'
they just said "wheely doodad"
>>15355333

>>15355287
do they ever talk about anything except donations?

Juice.

https://youtu.be/eWpYQ6NYRIU

>>15355363
>>15355365
>some student solid rocket crap
yawn

>>15355366
merch

>>15355361
Emergency services never showed up. There are probably no injuries.

>>15355364
Honestly the USSR should’ve realized that building a 100 ton launcher was impossible and instead use a pair of 50 ton vehicles.
Yeah, and even the original N1 plan was for 50 tons to LEO and had half the engines.

> counterweight has punctured Earths mantle
its over

>>15355366
they talk about the discord server. you have to pay for access tho sadly. hoping some generous person buys me "red team membership"

>more than 3,000 V-2s were launched by the Wehrmacht against Allied targets
holy FUCK
THAT many?

>>15355374
Hotspot bros we keep winning

>BROWNSVILLE, TX - The death toll has reached 239 people after an elevator counterweight collapsed this weekend at a SpaceX launch site outside Brownsville, Texas.
IT'S OVER

>Mr president, the second counterweight has fallen.

BlueOriginSlavaZ here. 100,000 SpaceX employees were killed in when the counterweight fell. New Shepard NS-23 returned to the pad under its own power. New Glenn will have 100 units completed next year.

>>15355373
Lol no, it was very much possible. The problems were very different from simply the rocket being too big.

>>15355378

DoD leaks from Minecraft Earth Map Discord server corroborate the elevator casualties.
MIA: 4
KIA: 47
WIA: 199

>>15355378
u mad untermenschen?

it's lokey kinda soothing to hear the nsf commentors' voices...

Hear me out:
>3.8 meter wide kerosene cores
>8 RD-107’s each
>Triple core vehicle
>Can probably to 50 tons to LEO
>Dual launch for lunar missions
Hire me Korolev

>VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>15355368
It's liquid rocket nigger. LOX and I guess ethanol

HERE ME OUT:
i need to pee even worse now than before

>>15355393
the sound of jewish voices subliminally asking for more money. i would rather listen to the giant bike noise on the other stream

ALERT ALERT
UPSKIRT SHOT OF STARSHIP ON STREAM

We must never forget the 6,000,000 spacex employees killed by the counterweight failure. This site is clearly wracked with OSHA violations and must be shut down until a deeper investigation can be conducted.

>>15355378
what a massive waste of money. did any of them even hit military targets?

>>15355386
high heavy to light superheavy (basically FH sized) with an industrialised design is just superior if you want a sustained space program, aka what's in all these alternate histories of continued space race

I still get anxious watching the chopsticks move

>>15355405
sometimes i wonder if there's even a locking mechanism stopping them from just popping out

It was a Otis-62 elevator without any modernization or even thermal floor finding optics

HAHAHAHA HA
SO LIKE
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF STAR-SHIP LAND....
IN MY BACK YARD?!??@?! HA HA HA HA

If America was unable to get the F-1 working, would we have seen lunar Gemini and a smaller Saturn instead?

Open for discussion (except by that one retard who accuses everybody of being "redd*t):
after the N-1 crashed and burned the Soviets ought to have switched to a Sea Dragon scheme with the hope of eventually launching them from the Black or Caspian Seas, the effort they put into their stupid "Caspian Monster" ground-effects seaplane should have gone into this instead, and their technical expertise and equipment for constructing giant submarine hulls would have contributed greatly to this program.

>>15355410
1 year into the LEO war and Russia has started launches unmodified R-7’s from 1957

>>15355413
>Sea Dragon scheme
worse than a regular rocket. you're a fag

>>15355404
They were just used to scare the br*tish. If they weren’t shot down, they either hit empty fields or leveled apartment complexes

holy shit jupiter has a lot of moons

>>15355420
reminder that Jupiter is so FUCKING FAT that the point we all orbit around (barycenter) is OUTSIDE of the Sun's diameter

Europa has 2x the water compared to the earth
mogged lmao

Why couldn't Venus's atmosphere be superrefractive like we were promised bros?
>The Venerian atmosphere is so thick that light is refracted through 90° and more. The whole planet is visible from any point on the surface. The explorer will seem to stand in the bottom of an enormous bowl, with cliffs towering high above him.

>>15355420
asteroids arent moons

>>15355419
>If they weren’t shot down
what did he mean by this?

>>15355402
naughty

>>15355404
>what a massive waste of money
The german spent more money on this than the american spent on the manhattan project.

I was worth it, it accelerated development of rocketry by a decade at least.

Deneb launch is moments away, come and watch it explode

The fact that SpaceX was able to static fire Superheavy gives a lot of confidence desu. Barring some weird pressure issue it seems like it’s very likely the stack makes it to Max Q at least

>>15355427
He's thinking of early V1s. They were rocket gliders that had a slower flight speed in their final approach and could be intercepted by aircraft.

>>15355434
>They were rocket gliders
No they were pulsejet planes

>>15355427
>>15355434
Were V2s not shot down?? I know V1s were

>>15355438
Obviously not. You can't shoot down ballistic missiles by hand bro

>>15355438
It's still really hard to shoot down ballistic missiles.

>>15355438
Nope lol, nothing could shoot down V2 back then without causing *more* damage than they did.

>>15355439
oh shit this is news to me

>>15355424
I wish this had made it into one of the vignettes in Heavy Metal

>>15355404

>>15355412
We probably would have seen a Saturn C-2 based Apollo with a lot of earth-orbit assembly flights. The bad news is that NASA projected you'd need at least fifteen C-2 launches to build out a lunar mission in LEO. The good news is this would have encouraged the Soviets to try a Proton or Soyuz based competitor doing the same and we would have had a real race on our hands.

>>15355423

>>15355425
so mars has no moons then I guess?

I wish SpaceX streamed their Dragon Cargo returns

nsf coverage is amazing

>>15355451
kill yourself

>>15355445
>winged starships performing an orbital bombing run over chinese controlled venus

is the lifting thing on the tower custom-made? or is this some weird industry standard modular tower arm thing

>>15355449
yeah

Guys, is this true?

>>15355452
are you not watching the stream? they explain everything

>>15355459
Yes actually

>>15355459
Seeing as Artemis II is NET 2025, we might not see Artemis III until 2027

>>15355459
1-4 are true; although quick reuse isn't as important for the demonstration mission
5 isn't

>>15355466
imagine a space station truss as big as that tower

>>15355464
Q4 2027

>>15355457
everything is custom made pretty much

>>15355464
2030

>>15355457
It's custom. It's designed with shock absorbing rails for the booster to land on with the same pins they're lifting it by right now.
That will not be tested this launch though.

50 red team memberships gifted! did you get one??

>>15355367
JUICE. All caps, all the time.

Imagine the feeling before STS-1…

>>15355460
>>15355483
SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>15355457
The winch powering the arms is something they pulled off of their decommissioned oil rigs. It's all "custom," but I'm sure they're using a lot of commercially sourced parts.

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1647331358677807104

>>15355299
I don't get time dilation, I thought time was subjective?

>BROWNSVILLE, TX - The death toll has reached 7435 people after an elevator counterweight detonated a nuclear weapon.

It’s easy to forget how huge Starship is

>>15355489
you can get the limited commemorative starship patch in tshirt or hoodie form

>>15355466
wtf I thought Mechazilla was structurally unsafe

holy shit an elevator counterweight flew over my house

>>15355497
It is subjective. 50 years will have passed for you while 50000 will have passed in the intertial frame for example

>>15355424
That would have been weird as hell, would have made Venus seem like a Daemon World or something

>boostback burn will be 55 seconds long
RTLS was a mistake

>>15355459
It doesn't matter because:
>no tower
>no suit
That giant, almost three year gap between Artemis missions is because of this. We literally live in a world where waiting for NASA to build a launch tower or find someone who can make gloves is conceivably going to be the thing that hobbles us going back to the moon. Not the fucking insanely advanced rockets.

IZZLA BLANCA PARK???
IZZLA BLANCA
IZZLA
wtf

why tiles instead of 2 half cylinder shells

>>15355522
>Not the fucking insanely advanced rockets
none of which have even launched yet
don't get ahead of yourself

>>15355526
maintenance

>>15355531
Orange rocket launched
>BUT BIGGER
Won't be fundamentally different in terms of outcome. And SS is launching Monday, prepare your angus.

so are we doing to fishy crackers or not

>>15355539
>SLS
>insanely advanced
ngmi

>>15355523
Isla Blanca Parc . Learn some fucking spanish you fucking mutt

>>15355540
What

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncKknpMPDtg

>>15355522
suits are a non issue..

>>15355540
accepting food from 4channers is extremely risky

>>15355483
out all of the livestreams I've watched I have never been given a single invite. it's just not statistically probable.

>>15355444
The Brits barely had any detection mechanisms for incoming V2 which fell at mach 2-3. Most of the time, the detection of a V-2 attack was a big explosion and then a double sonic boom

The next time we will see those Ship RVac's will be at MECO. Im so happy

>>15355284
Imo

35% chance she deviates before max Q and FTS blows it up

40% stage separation doesn't work, she pulls the classic engine spurt-spurt or it fires inside the upper housing of B7 and beyblades itself out of orbit

15% chance everything goes fine until reentry, where it burns up

10% chance nothing goes wrong from start to finish and the B-57 Canberras watch it go SPLAT belly-first into the ocean

>>15355466
Wtf? I thought the elevator counterweight nuked all of Boca Chica?

>>15355546
>suits are a non issue
Really? Show me the lunar suit, lmao, because it doesn't exist and after NASA spent somewhere around a quarter of a billion dollars trying to make new suits, they gave up and decided to just give money to a couple of different companies to develop suits they can rent. Unless you expect SpaceX to save the day, they very much are an issue.

>>15355464
Artemis III Q4 2026. They will give up on SLS/Orion and make the program only use Starships

>>15355551
What are you going to do about a Mach 2-3 object back then anyway?

>>15355562
>unless you expect SpaceX to save the day
That is literally what happens every single time

>>15355569
Smack the wings with yours to send it off course.

>>15355551
>>15355569
There was this crazy idea to shoot a billion rounds in its path wasn't there?

>>15355542
this is mindboogling and i am no mutt

>>15355567
>make the program only use Starships

The shiny is not getting human rated. Not in your life time.

Wasn't starship meant to not need heat tiles? I don't follow this shit very close

>>15355544
anon was gonna bring fishy crackers to the meetup
>>15355548
maybe the box will be unoppened

>>15355576
Take meds

>>15355570
I don't know how to break this to you, but NASA didn't contract with SpaceX for the suits. So if no one shows up with suits, NASA is SOL unless they can go to the Senate and beg for more money to buy suits from SpaceX (fat chance).

>>15355577
it wasnt, but it turns out we dont have an alternative

>>15355577
No

>>15355555
Digits confirm

>>15355545
That's a lot of cope

>>15355577
There was a plan early on after they switched to steel to have it sweat methane upon reentry. This was scrapped and they went back to tiles.

>>15355576
>the shiny is not getting human rated
It is already required to be human rated for NASA's Artemis III mission to work. It's NASA's moon lander. HLS

It was nice of you to crawl out from under your rock after 5 years to join us

>>15355582
>it wasnt
You're making shit up

>>15355578
how would you know? you can inject some cum spray using a syringe or something
have fun getting laughed at here when cracker anon posts a picture of cumming on the crackers
its going to happen, I guarantee it

>>15355576
If he's 71 or older and lives in America, statistically speaking you are correct.

>>15355569
Nothing, but maybe you could've gotten somewhere safer with some early warning.

>>15355589
https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-ceo-elon-musk-starship-transpiring-steel-heat-shield-interview/

>>15355284
I could see a failure at stage sep since the booster and ship haven't flown together yet.

>>15355592
Lifespan is still like 76.5 for men, and IIRC all you gotta do is launch 10 times without an explosion and you are human-rated. I could see SpaceX easily doing 10 Starship launches in 5 years.

>>15355586
No, Starship HLS will wait for Artemis3 crew in lunar orbit. It will only work for trip down and up lunar surface. Full human rating would mean rating it for take off with humans from Earth. And its not happening. Not in your lifetime.

Two more weeks until orbital flight. Two more weeks.

>>15355586
>It is already required to be human rated
Human rated for landing on the Moon, not for taking off from and landing on the Earth.

>>15355597
>all you gotta do is launch 10 times without an explosion and you are human-rated
They are not human rating this before 50 launches.
HLS is an exception because it neither reenters nor launches with humans on board.
Design freeze after 10 launches would be disastrous for the Starship program.

>>15355591
Cracker anon here. First off, I'm eating 90% of the crackers. I was willing to share. If no one wants to eat any i will eat 100% of the cum- i mean crackers

>>15355599
We get it you're a seething redditor

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1647339528833896449

motherfucker

>>15355606
cringe

>>15355597
I'm talking about reentry. Its probably gonna take like 250+ consecutive reentries before starship is safe enough that crew starship begins being used, and I don't see that happening until around 2027. But I think the launch rate will climb significantly past 2026.

>>15355422
It's not really flabbergasting. It's more flabbergasting that a body inside the frost line of the Solar system has comparable water to one outside the frost line. Remember, outside the frost line water acts as a mineral.

>>15355425
>gatekeeping moons. . .

>Transporter-7 injected satellites into 4 different "dedicated" orbits with enough performance to spare to cut off the nozzle
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF THE SMALLSOI INDUSTRY

>>15355606
I don't think its even possible for me to subscribe? Is this feature available worldwide yet? Twitter just activated the ability for a few more countries other than the USA to have their users offer subscription, but what about buying/paying for it?
Or do I have to have twitter blue to sub to people?

can someone confirm that last thread was staged at page 10?

>>15355613
if pluto isnt a planet then asteroids arent moons

>>15355603
>>15355609
IDK where you guys get this idea when Shuttle existed, or why you'd think it's going to use a different human rating system than Dragon. Hell, NASA is using reused Dragons now. I'm not seeing where you are pulling these giant ass numbers from because it doesn't cohere to reality. No one's ever been forced to launch that many times before it's alright, lol. Even the death trap that is Starliner is being given a pass.

>>15355422
This picture is shit because it only counts SURFACE water from Earth. Inside our planet we have a lot of water, even if its not visible. Large quantities of water are trapped in magma layer and in the rocks themselves, but they are not counted, meanwhile they count this underglacial shit for Europa on the picture. This shit is made for real retards to impress them.

>>15355617
Confirming, was there

>>15355614
Literally mocking an entire small and medium launch industry ,

>>15355606
>"twitter should be the world's town square, free speech reeeeeee
>lol pay up piggie to hear MY speech

>>15355614
oops we just took our existing software, hardware, and engines to make all the "tug" start ups obsolete..

>>15355614
Every single company building smallsat launchers is so fucked lmao

>>15355614
I actually want to know why this is such a big deal. I saw that they made the engine nozzle smaller to improve readiness, but I'm not sure how just changing the nozzle size does that.

>>15355615
>>15355606
Okay, so right now people that live in the USA, Japan, Canada, Australia and New Zealand can offer subscriptions or subscribe
I guess its going to be pirated/Streamed by someone else and recorded but still kind of annoying

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1647339015132299264

https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/subscriptions#whocansf

>>15355281
how do you kill threads by bumping them

>>15355606
Someone stream it please

>>15355629
Can't wait to see all the new TESLA(TM) and SpaxeX livestreams on YouTube once they have new Elon shit to work with.

>>15355620
>this idea
Elon himself has said as much. I'm 603, not even saying that it's a requirement just that it'll happen that way
>Shuttle
It was disastrous to the Shuttle program as well.
NASA design freeze after 10 launches would be the death of Starship. What part of this don't you understand retard?

>>15355628
Basically ...
>Mmmm the simulations shows that we will have A LOT of performance to spare
>What we can do ?
>partial boost back burn to shorten the trip of the barge
>Cut part of the nozzle to Save a couple millies
>Still "Transporter-7 injected satellites into 4 different "dedicated" orbits with enough performance to spare to cut off the nozzle"

>>15355619
They're moonlets, manlet

>>15355632
Your thread is on Page 10, but there are 10 threads ahead of you, so you need to take those ten threads and bump them because they aren't at bump limit, and this will push your Page 10 thread to the end of the line and kill it. Or you can just make new threads and do the same thing.

>>15355606
what a fag

>>15355578
I can think of a fair few ways to fuck with food while leaving the box appearing unopened. Do not accept food from 4chan users.

>>15355606
What does this mean?

>>15355625
seething troon if you think this is even a little bit of a juxtaposition.

>>15355643
thanks

>>15355625
Elon needs the money

>>15355422
All the outer system water will end up in swimming pools for Dysonchads

>>15355606
He should consider relinquishing control to shotwell, what a dork

>>15355288
Unatco?

>>15355629
>USA, Japan, Canada, Australia and New Zealand
how come Japan is the only country in the list than doesn't speak English ?

>>15355653
Never forget the cum brownies.

>>15355657
what is the point of even bringing up transgender people? how is that a relevant insult? it's just petulant

>>15355664
dilate

>>15355667
Because Japan is the single largest Twitter market

>a large chinese fleet is on full steam towards hawaii
what would happen?

Are you prepared for potential N1 kino? But in 4k from multiple directions and thousands of cameras?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hZ5Ep06TTk

>>15355670
>transgender people
>>15355672

>>15355672
Yeah go ahead and step up to the plate to bat for the autistic redditor

Once the HLS gets to the Moon, do you think they will renovate the gas tank to have more livable space/storage? It's not like they need the entire tank that they had when they did a Moon Direct. This way they could maybe stay longer on the surface

>>15355677
>But in 4k
you mean shitty "live"stream quality ?

>>15355643
That works great as long the jannies don't go in and wipe a bunch of lame threads, and then there are no longer ten pages of threads.

>>15355683
Smartest poster in the thread.

>>15355683
There are IMAX cameras that were installed last month on the tower.

>>15355620
Elon himself as well as Gwynne said they wouldn't put crew on starship until its done hundreds of reentries.

>>15355664
>>15355670
Unironically kill yourself. You will never be a woman. GB2Reddit we dont need your kind here

>>15355676
The Chinese have far fewer carriers than the US

>>15355683
>what is a recording

launch when

>>15355688
Look I know you’re new here but you don’t have to pretend to be an oldfag. Sometimes it’s better to not say anything at all

>>15355695
3 weeks

>>15355677
3/4 N1 test flights didn't destroy the launch pad, and that was WITHOUT any static fire testing of the full stack or individual rockets, plus much shittier soviet computer systems. I'm thinking starship will be fine.

>>15355695
38 hours
>>15355698
You need to dilate tranny

How long do you have to be a regular in /sfg/ to not be a newfag? I have a couple months under my belt now of consistently being here.

>>15355706
You're a newfag if you weren't here for snate at least

Just shut the fuck up

>>15355378
>Launch 3000 V2s at London
>Kill more Eastern European slaves than Bongs

Sasuga Germoids.

>>15355706
If you weren't here for, at latest, hopper, then you are a permanewfag

>>15355706
being a newfag has nothing to do with how long you've been here

You're a newfag until you learn to STFU about it already.

>>15355706
been here since 2020 and I kinda feel like a midfag

>>15355698
I think it's literally some kid who thinks it's 'hip' to just randomly say those things. like 'fake and gay' or whatever from c.2009. Just don't reply.

>>15355716
You're a newfag

>>15355706
Pic related is the newfag test

>>15355701
In a way, I find it amazing N1 did so well without any sort of engine testing. The final flight almost made it to stage sep.

>>15355698
>everyone who calls me out for being an annoying nigger is a newfag
Ive seen you do this to multiple people for a few dozen threads now, you need to fuck off back to whatever board you came from.

>>15355726
>Ive seen you do this to multiple people for a few dozen threads now
NTA, that is me. I do it because every one of your posts stands out like a sore thumb and they have been appearing only as of recently.
Quite obvious desu.

>>15355726
meds

>>15355656
He will do a Starship Space (twitter livestream) for subscribers only at 6pm Central Time tomorrow

https://www.youtube.com/live/Wj9RV3TaSWg
have you guys been watching? theyre reading superchats now

>>15355606
We should pool our money to buy a subscription for a designated anon who relays the info
I can pledge 50¢

>>15355656
Twitter spaces are audio livestreams on twitter where the host can bring up people to speak or ask questions, the listeners can ask to speak and react with emojis
its pretty cool actually
for instance here is a recording of the BBC interview musk did a few days ago

https://twitter.com/alx/status/1645993532530860033

TL;DR audio livestream on twitter

>>15355606
>>15355738
It's literally just gonna be a bunch of elon stan cucks asking nsf tier questions and making 420 jokes. holy fucking hell it's gonna be cringe

>>15355740
Yeah. The fucking rightoid chink with a lisp and the doge poojeets are really fucking cringe.

>>15355676
The PLAN can't do very much outside the range of their shore based aviation and ballistic missiles.
Their navy is only just getting to the point where they can bully smaller countries oceans away at the same level as the French or British.

Does spaceX have a way to track if/which tiles have fallen off? Do they have sensors in them or a camera pointed at them? if they were to lose tiles say at maxQ, would ground based cameras be able to spot them?

>>15355621
keep crying earther, absolutely mogged lmaooo

>>15355746
No no, those are Elon's friends! He's subscribed to them :)

€300 to NSF, I give you my energy Nasaaaaaa

>>15355749
>Does spaceX have a way to track if/which tiles have fallen off?
Camera from inside the tank.
>if they were to lose tiles say at maxQ, would ground based cameras be able to spot them?
No

>>15355497
>>15355511
>>15355299

No, is special relativity and frame
references

>>15355299
I mean is neat, but what if yer in a hurry and to be early in some place?

>>15355663
based
spinchads cant stop winning

>>15355740
Then why don't you join the stream tomorrow so you can ask technical, non cringe questions? Oh wait, you're a pussy.

>>15355670
/sfg/ is full of election tourists who also happen to like spaceflight. that's why you see so many chud behaviour. pol & theDonald redditors spilled to g, sci, vg, tv. it's terrible, thankfully they only use 4chan and aren't really into imageboard culture. there are many smaller imgboards worth using nowadays

we really need to come up with a martian calendar and time system

universal coordinated galactic time

>>15355706
idk to be honest

>>15355769
why
you're going to be in a dome anyways
use Houston time

>>15355767
/tv/ is completely unusable nowadays that's for sure

>>15355763
Actually it's because I'm a troony troon troon lol

>>15355762
spinlets are also dysonlovers? its over

>>15355774
>muh dome muh lava tubes
No.

>>15355767
>chud behaviour
sfg will never not be transphobic

>>15355782
Based

>>15355779
this is your home

>>15355782
yeah sorry you simply can't speak for the entire general like that.

>>15355625
Based, bow you shits

>>15355782
basado

>>15355658
How would you keep this baby from freezing? RTG's?

>>15355774
>/tv/ is completely triggering to troons like me :(
Yes, that's the intent, glad you hate it

>>15355782
this

>>15355606
Okay so who is in the US, has a twitter account and is willing to record/restream?
I will pay you whatever this shit costs

>>15355785
tube cucks cant even do anything with their homes (jailcells). you will be servants to the owners of the tube at large and there will be nothing you can do against them. they will throw you out the airlock if you dare to question them and they will probably feed you the bare minimum anyways if youre stuck in the fucking cylinder out in the middle of space.

>>15355782
I'm trans btw

>>15355782
Elon himself has every reason to hate trannies more than any of us rn

>>15355706
Been here for 2+ years and the retardation of all the newfags makes it feel as if I'm some old creature already whilst I'm not

>>15355786
>>15355784
>>15355791
>>15355797
three to one, what now.

>>15355782
True but at the same time trannies are going the be the only form of female resembling creature (assuming no robots) available to fuck on mars since women won't be coming

>>15355782
very based
>>15355786
I'm pretty sure if someone made a strawpoll here in sfg 90% of the posters would either say "trannies should scram" or "IDC about that crap lets talk about roggeds instead", and only 10% at best would answer "trans-folks are welcome here".
>>15355284
My bet's on burns up on entry.

>>15355799
>t: stuck on a ball out in middle of space

>>15355760
What’s my hurry? My hurry is to explore new lands and add to my rock collection

>>15355769
Isn't it just 668 sols per Martian year at the moment? Or x sols whenever talking about long each rover survives

>>15355810
trannies won't be coming either, sexbots is where its at

>>15355811
if they think "trannies should scram" why even bring it up? literally every one of these discussions in the past in /sfg/ is because someone uses a transgender slur as a random response to someone. It's completely initiated by the idiot bigots.

The tubecuck vs martian shit is stupid.
Just a distraction to keep humans bound to this earth.

>>15355810
>>15355811
>>15355805
now five to one

how would a mars flyby and return to earth mission look like?
Can you do that in the same window when Earth-mars-distance is short or do you have to wait like 2 years orbiting mars before you can make your way back to earth?

>>15355816
That's fine we'll all be straight up gay instead
With no females any hole becomes a goal

>>15355779
Spinlets would be people who don't spin or can't spin fast enough for 1 g
>>15355802
On the other hand Elon will be dead from old age by the time trannies are putting cishits in camps for not taking the "girl"penis, and I mean that unironically. They're violent and a rapidly growing population , spread out globally

https://twitter.com/GraviticsInc/status/1647354619582980097

>>15355824
The duality of /sfg/

>>15355819
It is bezos vs musk writ small.
people thinking about colonizing space in different ways isn't a problem. We're at a point where experimentation should be attempted.

>>15355818
back to r*ddit newfag

>>15355828
That's nothing, blorigin has a mockup of an entire rocket factory

planetoid-dwellers really think they can compete with habitat chads?

>>15355828
what an ugly scammer
bold subhuman lying to naive sci-fi kiddies about his fake space station

>>15355835
Kek you sure are seething

>>15355769
Can't change the time system until we genetically engineer ourselves out of the circadian rhythm.

>inb4 Mars is close enough to 24hrs

No it's not, there was some experiment a while back where they ran some dudes on the Martian clock with simulated light and it FUCKED them up, after a while they were just perma jetlagged.

>>15355834
very nice, but in reality the 'habitat chad' is simply the modern man, not a real explorer. He lives in a man made habitat and sits around without being able to simply walk into new, untamed environments. No progress, no change.

>>15355818
>idiot bigots
What about genius bigots?

>>15355828
the virgin gravitics mockup vs the chad axiom station under construction

>>15355284
Everything will work precisely as planned, with the orbiter making a gentle splashdown in the ocean. The media will then publish "STARSHIP CRASHED INTO THE OCEAN" stories and the substance of the article will be "Elon man bad".

>>15355842
Yep

Everyone post your funniest wojaks!

>>15355838
>reddit spaced
>factually incorrect post
kek

>>15355818
because they're trenders and trannies are the newest and freshest target in the news (and moral panic attack for conservatives that makes them gain a few votes). Wait until their influencers move on to another target and watch them move on too. even alex jones has a trans gf now

>>15355706
If you were here after Mk1 you're a midfag. If you were here after SN15 you're a newfag.

>>15355822
A free-return trajectory to Mars is possible but it would be agony, I don't know what the minimum time for the whole mission would be if you just wanted to do a flyby is though
Maybe 10 months?

> It takes 250 days (0.68 years) in the transit to Mars, and in the case of a free-return style abort without the use of propulsion at Mars, 1.5 years to get back to Earth, at a total delta-v requirement of 3.34 km/s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-return_trajectory#Earth%E2%80%93Mars

>>15355828

What need is there for larger modules if they're not going to be big enough for spin gravity? What do we need to do in orbit that existing modules are too small for? Also if sheer volume is the goal, why not go inflatable? As big as this rigid module is, that space could pack down an even bigger inflatable.

>>15355842
'SpaceX drops ICBM on whale habitats'

>>15355846
>no rebuttal

Cope retard

chances of us getting actual footage of starship and/or booster coming down filmed with a nearby droneship or something or will we just get boring telemetry data telling us weither the landing attempt worked or not?

>>15355818
every1 can tell ur a troon when u post. we always nail u on it and nobody wants u here. take a hint, gash.

>>15355839

Living in habitats on a planetary surface is still living in habitats, just at the bottom of a gravity well

>>15355828
based

>>15355767
>anybody who isn't far-left is an "election-tourist"
speak for yourself, newfag

>>15355845
haha heehee hoohoohoo oh that's a good one anon

>>15355822
IIRC an ideal six months transfer to Mars has a free return that would take about two years, short round trip transits just aren't possible with chemical or sNTP. According to a table on Project Rho, ~30 km/s of delta-v gets you 17 months round trip, with 52 km/s it goes down to just 2 months

>>15355847
if trannies look like that then whats a normal woman's excuse?

>>15355839
>He lives in a man made habitat and sits around without being able to simply walk into new, untamed environments
Explain how this will not also be true of Martian settlement

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1647343992718364672

>>15355849
I remember when they were exploding huge unaffordable carbon fiber test tanks. *sip* those were the days

>>15355854
I don't believe it but you could just have a shifting schedule and you'd be fine.

>>15355580
So SpaceX gonna save the day again if Axiom won't bring the suits in time?

>>15355782
So true. Frankly though, the people who bring up politics constantly, left wing or right wing, are extremely annoying.

>>15355859
I wonder if that is expected to spin. where would you dock? all the obvious places would be spinning

>>15355859
What the absolute fuck is this mess

>>15355859
If this spins those inner habs are going to be vomit chamber

>>15355864
>30 km/s 50km/s
Forgot to mention it includes the delta-v from Earth to LEO

>>15355875
They're obviously on a bearing nigger

>>15355859
Kek, based retards

>>15355859
What… what is the point

>>15355859
Based design

>>15355868
*bursts*
Absolute units they were

>>15355861

Someone was supposed to shove mack crawford into a locker but that never happened in this timeline

>>15355857
>>15355866
in a gravity well, you can leave on foot. You can explore at your leisure, you are surrounded at every turn by places no man has stepped foot. In the caves, resources and mass are endless. You can go to the untamed places and tame them. In a cylinder, you will always be confined, forced to explore from behind a monitor.

>>15355835
this is one of the most promising concepts I've seen actually
simple, dumb, big, using the max capacity of starship

>>15355841
the axiom station is not under construction, the launch of the first part is planned in 2025, I don't think they have built or perhaps even developed it fully yet

>>15355852
inflatables are a meme and for faggots
welding steel in space for bigger habitats like think orbital is what you should do

>>15355828
>the capability not just compartmentalise...
>but to also give incredible arena like spaces
what did he mean by this?

>>15355842
that would be the ideal situation

>>15355868
sfg didn't really even exist back in those days. i still remember watching the ITS/BFR reveal in 2016; that combined with the falcon 9 reusability program actually made me excited for spaceflight again.

>A 1g brachistochrone trajectory transit to Mars would take only two days each way but require 3,500 km/s of dV

It's over

>>15355769
The mars society had a really good paper about this. I'll see if I can find it.

>>15355899
Constant 1g is insane. You can, literally, go anywhere

>>15355890
Yes kek

>>15355834
Make the text bigger wtf

>>15355670
>>15355767

>>15355828
>>15355859
Are Axiom thinking of going Starship route? Or are they just gonna be doing the small section to capture the legacy station market?

BO orbital station depends on New Glenn, they're banking on that rocket along with ULA's Vulcan rocket.

SpaceX could uplift quite a few interesting and super mega stations from some unknown startup companies..

>>15355908
>reddit spacing
hello

>>15355899
No comrade premier, it has only begun

>>15355892
>the axiom station is not under construction, the launch of the first part is planned in 2025, I don't think they have built or perhaps even developed it fully yet
https://twitter.com/Axiom_Space/status/1645404029298540544
https://twitter.com/Axiom_Space/status/1643220131588308992

>>15355907

Not gay but I think some trannies are cute and I’ve jerked off to traps several times

>>15355892

You are not only wrong about inflatables, but your face and balls are gay married to each other. The ceremony was beautiful, not a dry eye in the house, I wish them happiness in their journey together

>>15355902
>kid hits another kid
>tax payers pay him for his entire fucking life

can you guys stop

>>15355900
so here's the mars society papers. pretty cool. I'm sure it's in here somewhere.
http://www.marspapers.org/#/papers

Aren't inflatable copyrights still owned by Bigelow? Or did they expire already

>>15355890
He is being extra gay today but I like his work too much to unfollow/troll him and get blocked

>>15355917
I guess you are right depending on how "under construction" is interpreted, I thought about assembling the station (so one or more modules were already up there)

>>15355845

>>15355920
>You are not only wrong about inflatables
holy cope.

>>15355930
Are we gaan?

>>15355927
Oh oh I actually looked into this like a year ago! I believe they still own a bunch of rights, however, some of them are expiring. I think last I checked a bunch of stuff just got transferred to NASA ownership

I am honestly so hyped, this is like Christmas for me.

>>15355628
One of the critical (and false wishful) argument against Starship is it can only go to 1 orbit therefore no one would use Starship to send 100 satellites because sats would need ~different dedicated orbits therefore they argue its cheaper to buy a $20-100M less capable small/medium rocket that can carry ~100kg - 10t vs a $40M super heavy starship rocket that can carry 150 ton.

For whatever reason, they're hoping people wont buy rideshares as they fear the Starship.

>>15355813
It came to my mind hypothetical alien civilizations before they die and cosmic events before they start and/or end

>>15355930
MONDAY MONDAY MONDAY MONDAY

THE CASE OF MONDAYS

If SpaceX had approval, would they have flown B4/S20? Because apparently Raptor 1 required a totally different plumbing system for the OLM, as well as being way less reliable.

Has everyone already forgotten how many times Dragon exploded? Be emotionally prepared for a couple of spectacular Starship failures before one reaches orbit imo

>>15355927
>copyrights
not actually real.
you can build whatever the fuck you want as long as you came up with it yourself.

>>15355920
cuck popping inflatable balloons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiefS8E19OA

vs

chad weldable space balls (or anything really, with welding you can go anywhere)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3GBE_NS6Y8

CTO and co-founder of think orbital
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVzUmQ6Oi5c

https://twitter.com/DrKaram17/status/1635596660285009922

>>15355927
>>15355937
SNC had plans for a meme inflatable module on Orbital Reef so if the rights to NASA's TransHab technology are not expired, they're probably no longer relevant.

>>15355952
>how many times Dragon exploded
once?

>>15355955

That was on purpose, to determine max psi differential

I still don't understand how Starship is supposed to stage, just can't grasp it

it's da juice

>>15355925
>>15355900
>>15355769
Here's a really recent one. Interesting reading. He has many older ones that are good too.

>>15355965
why are the side boosters much brighter than the center stage

>>15355769
I was thinking in shiwing Colonies and Earth timelines simultaneously

>>15355953
>loisence issued
It's like being in a dream

>>15355891
>You can explore at your leisure
No, roving around Mars means keeping an eye on your oxygen, food and power reserves. It won't be like Lewis and Clark where you just shoot a bison when you get hungry
>places no man has stepped foot
But painstakingly mapped from orbit down to the millimeter nevertheless
>In the caves
I thought seeing the stars was a big deal?
>In a cylinder, you will always be confined
Just like a cave, oh well

>>15355969
Because they're SRBs newfriend

What shenanigans are they getting up to?

>>15355977
Connecting the Ship QD as always.
Gonna be some iterations before this is hands off

>>15355971
why do O'Neill cylinder depictions always give them the population density of Montana and not Hong Kong?

No space station startup will succeed, just stop

>>15355935

>>15355972
>tfw fully loicensed

>>15355975
why are srb much brighter than liquid fuel engines

>>15355981
>why do O'Neill cylinder depictions always give them the population density of Montana and not Hong Kong?
Why do you think the inhabitants would choose to live cramped like in Hong Kong to satisfy your retarded mental image when they have infinite space and are clearly resource rich?

>>15355988
SRBs are like fireworks and liquid fuel engines are like candles

>>15355969
Because they're a hell of a lot more energic than the anemic sustainer hydrolox engine.

>>15355988
Because they contain chunks of shit that radiates in black body from heat.
Hydrogen barely radiates.

>>15355972
I don't say this often, but that's a nice wojak

I was born in Iraqi Kurdistan and one of my earliest memories was watching a Space Shutte liftoff. I think it was at that moment I realized I wanted to go to space. Starship is launching in 36 hours and I feel like that dream is close to coming true. We are going /sfg/

>starship will setup in orbit methalox depots by default.

Ok, would it make sense to have a centaur like, re-usable, methane based in orbit tug/bus to move sats up into higher orbits?
Starship carries around a lot of dead weight if you are just moving a 5 ton sat around, it's why it doesn't perform that well for GEO missions.
This could potentially save you a lot on tanker flights.
You could even potentially bring it back down from orbit inside starship for servicing.

>>15355952
A failed attempt is still better than sitting on the pad doing nothing for THREE YEARS

>>15355993
idk tell me why they do that in hong kong today

>4.20 ppm
Nice