/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15344298
Look up the stages of decomposition.

>>15344298
We got religion for that. Get high in a church or temple or listen to underaged kids (Satanist).

Because science was just an excuse to play with chemicals and electricity in school. It is not actually that powerful or important.

>>15344300
This. The process that you consider "you" stops happening and the process of decomposition begins. Its nothing magical or special.

>>15345967
Haha you say it with such unwarranted confidence.

>>15345971
Fairies and poltergeists aren't real. There's a board for you to talk about your imaginary friends.

>>>/x/

>>15345988
Didn't say anything about that. I am talking about the limitations of science which any good scientist NEEDS to understand :^)

>>15345990
Death is well understood. You exist in the same state as before you were born, namely nonexistence, and your body rots. You are engaging in magical thinking.

>>15345995
Nope! That is a very closed minded view anon! How could you practice any kind of inquisitive thinking like that?

>>15346000
You have to go back >>>/x/

>>15346004
Inquisitive thinking is anti-science huh?

>>15346006
>NOOOO!!! You can't just stop existing!!! There has to be some magical thing that makes you exist forever!!!
>>>/x/

>>15345995
>You exist in the same state as before you were born
prove it

>>15346009
Kill yourself. Its an easy experiment that you can try at home.

>>15346008
Reality is magic?

>>15346009
By definition of non existence, he literally used the same word you midwit.

>>15346013
If you can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy then you don't belong on /x/, you belong in a psychiatrists office so you can get the help you need.

>>15346023
Aww that's too bad I will never wind up un a psychiatrist's office huh? There is nothing in the world that will make me show up in one is there? Awww too bad!

>>15346027
It truly is a pity

>>15344298
As far as science is concerned, there is no you. Only mindless brain chemicals reacting, which stop when your body dies.

>>15344298
Because science only deals with the realm of the physical.

>>15344298
Because science is a methodology limited by the possibility of quantitative measurement and the development of measurement tools and processes. Science cannot produce wisdom.
I suggest you consult philosophy, literature, and mystical religion.

>>15345995
If there was non-existence before death, how do we exist at all?.Only nothing can come from nothing.

I think neuroscience strongly suggests that when you die, you stop existing.

>>15344298
the universe dies eventually, even protons are theorized to decay. if you could live forever, the universe would die around you. truly a fate worse than whatever death would be.

>>15346730
>I think neuroscience strongly suggests
that there is no you to begin with. No ghost in the machine.
>>15346719
>when you die, you stop existing.
You must be the Fate Zero translator. People die if they are killed.

>>15346719
>If there were no computers before computers were build, how do computers exist at all?
>how do material computers display virtual reality? Impossible. The virtual can't emerge from the material. Checkmate materialists.
It's a greast mystery I quess we'll never know.

>>15346012
Already did that. Still no answers.
Blue Eisenhower November

>>15344298
What does it mean to die?

>>15346719
It must hurt to be this stupid

>>15346875
Try again. Science is about repeating experiments and comparing the results.

>>15344298
It can. But you have to die first. It's a science experiment only (YOU) can perform.

roast

>>15344298
when you understand sexual geometry you stop worrying about it

>>15344298
science first has to figure out how space works, that we still cling on to dark energy is a farce

I feel like I should expand upon my first post in this thread because there still seems to be some confusion. The process is dependent on the circumstances of death. Assuming your body is available to other people, you will likely be cremated or buried. Otherwise, you will decompose in a manner dictated by the environment you died in.

A lot of the confusion regarding this topic seems to revolve around the cognitive process. Given that this process is part of what we use to define life, as well as the fact that death if not immediately, eventually results in complete destruction of the brain, there should be no question that this process ceases to occur. From the perspective of the dead, this would be the absence of knowledge. For example, if I asked you what happened while you were asleep, or what happened on a planet billions of light-years away, your answer would probably be "I don't know." That is what death is from an individual perspective because the cognitive process itself is knowledge. Think of the words "I don't know" in a very literal sense. "I" referring to yourself in the dead state, "don't know" referring to the absence of that aspect of being awake and alive.

>>15347038
Perhaps I should say you wont know. When I die, I wont know what happens. The only ones who know are the living.

>>15346000
In order to think critically you need to establish boundaries and objectives. To use a simpler example than the afterlife how do we get a rocket into space? Well we need a tremendous amount of energy because there is a tremendous obstacle to overcome. You can be as creative as you want about how you might generate all that energy sure but once you start saying stuff like oh gravity isn’t real or oh we don’t need any thrust to get the rocket moving you’re not being critical anymore you’re just being silly.

>>15344298
you jack off to kiddie porn so you're going to hell

>>15347206
>sees loli
>immediately thinks about jerking off
I think you're just projecting here, anon.

>>15344298
It already has. The problem is that pseudoskeptics will not read the literature on NDEs and dogmatically think that it must be false.

But unironically study NDEs and realize that there actually is an afterlife and that we are eternal and will go to heaven unconditionally when we die, and that life is like a video game or a simulation and you actually chose to come here.

Here is a very persuasive argument for why NDEs are real:

https://youtu.be/U00ibBGZp7o

It emphasizes that NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and when people go deep into the NDE, they all become convinced. As this article points out:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist

>"Among those with the deepest experiences 100 percent came away agreeing with the statement, "An afterlife definitely exists"."

Since NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and they are all convinced, then 100% of the population become convinced that there is an afterlife when they have a sufficiently deep NDE themselves. When you dream and wake up, you instantly realize that life is more real than your dreams. When you have an NDE, the same thing is happening, but on a higher level, as you immediately realize that life is the deep dream and the NDE world is the undeniably real world by comparison.

Or as one person quoted in pic related summarized their NDE:

>"As my soul left my body, I found myself floating in a swirling ocean of multi-colored light. At the end, I could see and feel an even brighter light pulling me toward it, and as it shined on me, I felt indescribable happiness. I remembered everything about eternity - knowing, that we had always existed, and that all of us are family. Then old friends and loved ones surrounded me, and I knew without a doubt I was home, and that I was so loved."

Needless to say, even ultraskeptical neuroscientists are convinced by really deep NDEs.

>>15346481
>>15346535
>>15346665
i am physical

>>15344298
Quantum immortality is plausible. Due to quantum entanglement, information contained within your brain might be partially contained outside of your physical brain. This could also explain synchronicities and NDEs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65jdcvSOOjI

>>15344298
There are a lot of plausible mechanisms for how an afterlife could exist, like eternal recurrence, Open Individualism, eternalism, and living in a simulation.

https://alwaysasking.com/is-there-life-after-death/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w13yLq16QiM

>>15344306
why is discord full of those?

>>15346719
Wrong, 0!=100%, everything comes from nothing, nothing is the smallest possible amount of everything.

>>15345995
Sure, go on telling more about all the things you remember from before you were born, schizo.

>>15346008
It is impossible to exist as nonexistence, though, your premise is silly, I highly doubt you even remember the first several years of your existence let alone what it was like beforehand.

>>15345990
The limitations of science get smaller every year. There is nothing we have encountered in all of human history that it hasn't been able to explain. Death is simply the cessation of a set of biological processes. The wish for an afterlife is simply cope because to many people the thought of anything else is too terrifying.

>>15346013
Yes just because you can apply a broad label doesn't mean you have dispelled the whole of reality, uncertainty and incompleteness ensure reality will always be contained within the open bounds of the magical and transcendent.

>>15346023
People who can't tell the difference between their fantasies are their reality are called inventors. Machine learning algorithms that can pass the Turing test was a fantasy at the start of the decade, now it is reality, you can either keep up with the rest of use of slow down and fall into your own little sense of reality.

>>15346665
Which step of the scientific method explicitly necessitates quantization?