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Refute open individualism

>> No.15026606

>>15026603
It's philosophy so it's retarded

>> No.15026612

>>15026606
It's literally only talking about numbers. Am I <number of people that exist> or <1>? How much more scientific can it get?

>> No.15026614

(philosophically speaking)

>> No.15027959
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>>15026612
Your soul is a number whose digits encode your brain's internal computation within some computing cellular automaton, say Conway's game of life or automaton 110. It's an object in plato's realm, you are that number.

There is a breeding property of mental computation that can be transferred to let your soul infect others, and due to your abstract-ness you will continue in the realm of mathematics even when your physical body dies, or is insufficiently competent to see the whole picture.

Is this kind of what open individualism is talking about? I don't really get it.

>> No.15028087

>>15026603
Direct observation. I can directly observe being THIS human at THIS precise moment.

>> No.15028102

>>15026612
You're a gestalt of neurons wrapped around a meat puppet.

>> No.15028105

>>15026603
You have to present compelling evidence before refutation is necessary. And no, your time on mushrooms is not evidence.

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>>15028105
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhoqz4PEtkU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WKqO16mkGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao-X6Z7P9AE

>> No.15028482

>>15028461
Why should I care about some incel youtuber? This isn't science.

>> No.15028483

>>15028482
newfag please leave

>> No.15028776

>>15027959
>Your soul is a number whose digits encode your brain's internal computation
But is it tho? How can numbers give rise to subjective experience? Maybe having subjective experience is simply the default, but then why am I me and exactly me and not somebody else? Open individualism tries to work around this by saying "you are everyone at all times".

>> No.15028784

>>15027959
Assuming this also obliberates the need for any moralist coping technique such as religion

>> No.15028826

>>15026603
All open stuff is shitty. They say it's "free" and works better because " everyone works on it". But like all communist stuff it ends up being a mess of lazy people trying to take out as much as possible while contributing as little as possible.
Propietary individualism is much better

>> No.15028832

>>15026603
>open individualism
My mushroom trip years ago told me this is correct.

>> No.15030678

>>15028784
>Assuming this also obliberates the need for any moralist coping technique such as religion
No it doesn't. Religion is just the computational order of plato's realm, it's the ethical order that governs collective human behavior. That's literally what it is. What this obliterates is the nonsense supernatural components of religion, which never really mattered in the first place and we're better off without.

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>>15028102
>muh physicalism
Cringe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1aOUREzKoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCrJavBp724

>> No.15030821

>>15030730
>Consciousness can't be found in the brain
When the brain is working, you have consciousness. When a slug of lead rapidly decelerates into that brain, irreversibly disrupting the neurological processes, suddenly that consciousness ceases to be.

>> No.15030836

>>15026603
you look like a bitch

>> No.15030915

>>15030678
You know what, you're right.

>> No.15031005

>>15030836
lurk more

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>>15030821
>suddenly that consciousness ceases to be
Prove it

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>>15026603
Scientifically, why is his face so symmetrical?

>> No.15031482

>>15028483
Go back to LessWrong, incel.

>> No.15031511

>>15026603
king of /sci/

>> No.15031523

>>15027959
i refuse to accept your concept because it implies I am not given the sweet release of death once I die and thus it scares me. So your post is incorrect and your image depicts worst girl.

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>>15031523
Cope and seethe. You're here forever.

https://alwaysasking.com/is-there-life-after-death/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65jdcvSOOjI

>> No.15031691

>>15031455
We can temporarily turn it off with certain anesthetics. Seizures do it too, but come with the side effect of your brain spamming random inputs while you're out. Your consciousness is emergent, so it ceases to exist while its components are disrupted, just like there can't be wetness without a combination of water and something for it to stick to.

>> No.15031838

bros I miss montano so much

>> No.15032913

>>15031838
yeah.

How did his blog get attention? I only ever see his videos linked around, never his blog, but his blog is where he really seemed to write the most.

>> No.15033845

Bump