/sci/ - Science & Math

Koko did not have an IQ of 70-90. The whole Koko thing was bullshit. He couldn't tall it was a clipped together. The gorilla would just make random hand symbols.

>>14880072
>Nepal have an average IQ of 45
cite your sources /pol/tard

>>14880072
> Koko the gorilla received IQ scores between 70-90
Imagine trust in the shills of a ape sanctuary. Those suckers want to give human like rights to the great apes.

its funny how every time i see an IQ number associated with "borderline retardation" it's lower. Used to be 84, then it was 82, then 80, then 60, and years later lo, behold, forty fucking five. Yet, as the bar is lowered, 110 IQ midwits remain objectively retarded. What is this world coming to?

>>14880072
IQ isnt real

>>14880072
>So this brings up the question...is there something more to intelligence than just I.Q? And if so, what is that something?

Plenty, generational knowledge, dexterity/muscle memory, environmental cues (contextual reaction), indoctrination (the act of learning a primary language is a form of indoctrination) and one of the most important is the act of recording information since it can be built up and augment ones/others intelligence.

>>14880096
Not him but here.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country

>>14880160
There's midwits of every IQ bracket. For example the fact we treat medical doctors with reverence when most are just regurgitating practices/ knowledge from decades/ centuries past while failing to create any novel information themselves is midwit tier. It doesn't mean they aren't important to society nor does it mean their hardwork should be invalidated. It just means when you notate someone has high IQ one should consider if they have produce any novel information with said IQ. In some cases a low IQ person who produces novel information is more valuable than a high IQ person who's just acting like an interchangeable cog in a machine.

>>14880275
cope

>>14880072
>Nepal has on average an IQ of 45
Source? Google says 78 IQ

How can they be dumber than abos?

>>14880278
>https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country
And what is the study source for that data?

>>14880339
Simple Google search won't immediately show it. Download the intelligence of nations pdf by Richard Lynn and David Becker. Pic related shows Nepal's 42IQ score.

>>14880371

this is the source >>14880373.

>>14880072
>iq tests are bs
what else is new

>>14880373
>vitamin A deficient
>high altitude
some possible compounding factors here

>>14880072
>So this brings up the question...is there something more to intelligence than just I.Q?
Duh? IQ is the best metric we have for intelligence, but IQ isn't itself intelligence.

>>14880382
Same can be said about several Sub-Saharan African nations with high disease/ parasite load. But the these are the results being provided in the research. Feel free to disagree though, not even you are wrong about the population being suboptimal interms of health.

>>14880382
Same can be said about several Sub-Saharan African nations with high disease/ parasite load. But the these are the results being provided in the research. Feel free to disagree though, not even saying you are wrong about the population being suboptimal interms of health.

>>14880072
45?
This is fake and gay. Your source is wrong or bullshitting you.
45 would be a drooling retard.
If some group in Nepal really scored a 45 average, someone fucked up the testing process very badly.

>>14880409
No I'll agree with the results that, it's just odd to find an asiatic group with figures so low. I would have thought mountain survival imposed more cognitive challenge

>>14880072
>Nepal has on average an IQ of 45
Fake and gay. Their average IQ is more like 77. Mild retardation is 70 and below.

Aren't Gurka troops from Nepal? The british army should have good IQ data for them

>>14880424
*that haven't been fully explained yet until more data comes to light

I see IQ as just one aspect of intelligence. And yes, you can improve your IQ. IQ is measured by test results and you can prepare yourself for any sort of test. IQ tests are pattern recognition puzzle games. If you take an IQ test, then beat every Professor Layton game and take it again I guarantee you will score better the second time.
That isn't to say it's bullshit, I do think it's a good way to gauge spatial ability, but as we learn more about the brain the IQ test will become just one part of a bigger, more comprehensive means of measuring intelligence.
t. 130 IQ

>>14880072
I think IQ is a flawed metric for intelligence. I personally knew a brilliant physics PhD candidate from Nepal. I know that's completely anecdotal, but from what he described there's no way the average IQ over there is actually that low. At least it doesn't function as if everyone's IQ was that low there.

Is there a kind of intelligence that measures acting without thinking? So people who do something without even thinking about it, intelligence in the moment...or is that still related to I.Q?

>>14880409
How are the IQ tests done? If it is the same as here with the dice/cubes and forms/patterns, could it be due to lack of exposure to these concepts?

>>14880072
>there are people dumber than africans
I'm going to need to see some proof. I can't imagine much of a reduction in brainpower before you get to the point of the "people" just being literal human-shaped animals.

>>14880072
>>14880425
How the fuck do these low IQ people even exist. I thought natural selection would have weeded them out?

>>14880160
The IQ for legal mental retardation was lowered from 80 to 70 so that blacks would no longer be considered over 50% mentally retarded.

>>14880373
So the source is a few tests on pregnant mothers?

>>14880072
Fuck off Lynn, your so-called reasearch is literally funded just to discredit genuine intelligence research.

>>14880883
You don't need to know y=mx+b to repeatedly shove your dick into a moist hole until it pops out a child.

>>14880072
Kazakhstan is the greatest country in the world, all other countries are run by little girls.

>>14880883
This implies natural selection favors intelligence, which is a nice thought but not necessarily true. It is more like a mutation. Strength, power, and lack of moral inhibition seem to be traits which are much more conducive to reproduction.

>>14881051
Intelligence was selected for in humans during a long time, which is how high intelligence came about in the first place. It's not like it's a common trait in nature that could happen to manifest by accident. Dysgenic trends have simply reversed that selection for the past decades.

Nepal is a very traditional society that doesn't go out of its way to find things to change their country. Living in such an environment means less brain power is needed. You do things because that's the way they've always been done, not because you're been able to deduce that they're good to do. Essentially they benefit from the collective brain power of many centuries.

>>14881027
You need to be able to survive to adulthood. I wouldn't think an entire population of people with an average IQ of 45 would even be able to take care of themselves.

>>14880072
45? Anon I an sorry to tell you this but if the average IQ of a Nepalese person is 45IQ they would be photosynthesizing. This is as easily debunkable as walking 5 minutes through Nepal

You're all giving this stupidity too much credence to begin with. Lynn is a hack, and people parroting him clearly did not read what his sources are. Remember what IQ tests are used for: Psychiatric testing, diagnostics, evaluation. If someone compiles a list of IQ tests, the first thing you have to do is check their sources to determine whether they're drawing from populations already with severe mental problems. Secondly, whether they're drawing from noncompliant populations, such as tribesmen who think the silly white men are nuts.

So let's look at Lynn's citations for Nepal:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/187114
"Christian et al 2010" is looking at deficiencies in rural Nepal. The raven score sample is 28 women, 3 were literate. Does that sound representative to you? Of an entire country? When the goal was to intentionally seek out those worst off in Nepal? Obviously not.

This is also noted by Emil Kirkegaard because he isn't dumb enough to blindly believe that shit either: https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2018/03/the-national-iq-of-nepal/

OP is a retard and you should learn how to fucking google. Obviously, they don't have an IQ of 45, and you'd know that had any of you dipshits ever seen anyone with an IQ near 45. Some of you clued in on this. Emil does, but also doesn't, because I don't think Emil at the time realized the purpose of the cited study was specifically to seek out people in poor condition.

Do I really need to explain why citing a study that pursues the most disadvantaged to assess nutrition doesn't represent a nation? Really?

>>14880072
>still relying on IQ

>>14880072
Just goes to show how absolutely retarded nation iq stuff is. I've been to nepal. One of those border niggas took a bribe each from myself and my dad, they are plenty smart. How the fuck can a country function if like half the people are literal drooling vegetables? Do 40 iqs even have a conception of a nation state?

>>14881583
These things have their place. If done properly, but Lynn is an incompetent fuckwit unable to do anything properly. If you want to track development, find problem areas, locate nutrition or toxic effects in communities, community assessments can be useful for a lot of things.

Here is what it absolutely does not, and cannot, tell you: "The potential intelligence of a people". Why? Because all biology is dependent on some environment. We do not yet have some way to know, as in some definite, somebody's "potential" let alone that of their offspring in some "universal" sense, and I doubt that it is even possible to know because it is nonsense to ask.

Consider, even to current day genetic associations with intelligence are fairly weak due to the fact sets of genes contribute to that intelligence differently in different environments. This should be a "no brainer" but most people barely pass high school biology. Testing has its uses, but this is not one of them. Plenty of gifted children from shit families or highly mismatched IQ parents exist, as well, demonstrating how stupid the assumption is. Is it less likely? Duh. Is it some evaluation of some "genetic worth"? Obviously not. Don't mistake retards on 4chan being retarded and throw the baby out with the bathwater is all I'm saying. Scientists know these things, but dipshits online rarely do.

OP is really confused about IQ and displaying signs of motherfucking STOCKHOLM SYNDROME
YES
YES
YES
I shit you not
OP is acting like "IQ" has taken him hostage, and now he's trying to rationalize what is actually quite transparently irrational
It is NOT RATIONAL to say
>IQ is connected to rational thought
it is IRRATIONAL
OP has started a thread with
AN IRRATIONAL ASSERTION
so this entire thread is pure mental illness

The whole point of IQ is that the USA used
>muh low IQ
as a rationale for committing GENOCIDE

>>14880085
>t. <65IQ

>>14880072
IQ tests are designed to determine how well you can take an IQ test. Without the appropriate touchstones of abstract thinking you will fail it despite being perfectly capable of surviving and thinking complex answers to your daily life.

>>14881767
abstract is intelligence

>>14881674
>Consider, even to current day genetic associations with intelligence are fairly weak due to the fact sets of genes contribute to that intelligence differently in different environments. This should be a "no brainer" but most people barely pass high school biology. Testing has its uses, but this is not one of them. Plenty of gifted children from shit families or highly mismatched IQ parents exist, as well, demonstrating how stupid the assumption is. Is it less likely? Duh. Is it some evaluation of some "genetic worth"? Obviously not. Don't mistake retards on 4chan being retarded and throw the baby out with the bathwater is all I'm saying. Scientists know these things, but dipshits online rarely do.
Major cope. Gould was a fraud who faked his evidence and race and IQ are correlated higher than any other circumstance.

>>14880072
Education. Also checked.

>>14881863
>Major cope. Gould was a fraud who faked his evidence and race and IQ are correlated higher than any other circumstance.
I was not referencing Gould. Your comment is so irrelevant you're either a bot or incapable of reading. Race and IQ are correlated because race and circumstance are correlated. What part of "we do not have the means to sensibly answer what potential some group has" was lost on you?

A simple demonstration is height. Using your baseless methodology you would erroneously conclude the "potential height" in the 1800s was what it was. It wasn't. Get the picture dipshit?

I have a theory on this, hear me out /sci/.

I think that penetrative depth of understanding (vertical) is more associated with I.Q, and the "left brain". So what I mean by this, is that a high I.Q brain is one that creates distinctions, segregation and divisions, when mentally assessing the world. The complexity increases the higher the I.Q. High I.Q people tend to excel at mathematics, and they also seem to be more orderly, logical and clean...which tells me they compartmentalize things alot to sort things in their minds.

Think about this, everything in your brain is relative...a thought or a concept or a word, relies on another thing in order to be explained (think of axioms). So what I.Q is essentially doing, is slicing and dicing reality.

Now here's what I have to say about the Nepalis. Breadth of understanding (horizontal) is more associated with "wisdom", and the "right brain". So what I mean by this is that things are taken in holistically by these people, which intuits understanding...they see the world as a whole, but without that ability to slice and dice like the left brain does, it results in no penetrative depth of, but a generalized intelligence.

You probably know really smart people that are specialists in one area, but dumb as bricks in others. This is due to them having a higher I.Q, but a lower level of broader intelligence. The a.i thread talking about how they can't get artificial intelligence to simulate generalized intelligence got me thinking about this. What do you guys think?

>>14881999
I think you know virtually nothing about the topic. There is no "right brain" or "left brain" as you're putting it. You can start https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateralization_of_brain_function#Misapplication
>You probably know really smart people that are specialists in one area, but dumb as bricks in others.
If they're autistic, yes. If not, no. Intelligence by definition is overall ability. It predicts creativity in all domains and reasoning in all domains, excepting neurological or other disorders resulting in lopsided development (again, autism is a common example).

>>14881526

Best post ITT

>>14882006
>>14882008
Is this tooker pre-schizophrenia or post-schizophrenia paper? I don't want to waste my time.

>>14882005

>There is no "right brain" or "left brain" as you're putting it

The brain has polarity, would be a more accurate thing to say...but for the purposes of explaining the differences in those polarities, I posted that image.

So the magnet in this image is 1 thing, just like the brain is 1 thing, but it has polarity to it. All of your thinking is dualized to true or false, something or nothing, beginning or end etc. One thing is relative and reliant on the other thing, so you can't separate them.

>If they're autistic, yes. If not, no. Intelligence by definition is overall ability. It predicts creativity in all domains and reasoning in all domains

Yes, the ability to slice and dice reality...to compartmentalize it, to measure it, to quantify it. Without that, what I'm saying is that you have a generalized intuitive intelligence, that unfortunately is so broad, that it lacks depth, which makes it so shallow that it has "no form".

Think of a giant slab of clay, then think of I.Q as moulding objects out of that clay. The definition and detail increases the higher the I.Q, but the less I.Q there is, the more the objects tend to resemble the giant slab...until eventually it dissolves completely into the giant slab.

>>14882031
Bud, I tried to point you to reading something. You're now posting nonsense. I no longer care. You've written yourself off. Either go learn some actual fucking things with some hard work or fuck off like the other narcissists who think they can magic shit out their ass. Maybe your mother cares but I sure as fuck don't.

>>14882015
Pre-schizophrenia. I skimmed it and it's properly referenced if a bit dry.

>>14881526
It's notable that he hasn't used any of the test data taken from Gurkha assessment.
If Nepalis had an IQ of 45 then this highly effective light infantry fighting regiment would be completely impossible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8mXWxLfB94

>>14880883
>How the fuck do these low IQ people even exist.
Why wouldn't they exist? You have an entire planet full of 0 IQ creatures that carry themselves with more grace and competence than you ever iwll. Having a low IQ doesn't necessarily mean you're a bumbling retard that can't breathe on his own. Specialized forms of intelligence exist.

>>14882037

Do you agree that you have a conscious mind, that can only take in so much and be aware of so much at one point in time? For instance, you are probably not conscious of the fact that you're blinking, or breathing. You're not conscious of the birds chirping outside...your brain filters it out.

Then you have this larger body of information called the subconscious, which is like a sponge that seems to take in everything.

That focused laser of the conscious mind, is what allows you to "pull from the depths" of the subconscious, and subsequently create something intelligible out of it. The conscious mind is like a flashlight that can only see so much. The more tools you have, like language, different words and mathematics to create distinctions. The more explanatory power you have when pulling from the subconscious.

So then, without that limited, finite piece, which is the conscious mind. Without that part being developed, you would not be able to carve things out of the larger subconscious, e.g such as with noticing patterns and similarities.

I'm saying that these indigenous tribes think holistically, which is why they're very communal. Higher I.Q countries tend to be more individualistic. They compartmentalize themselves into different rooms in the house, into different apartments. These tribes on the other hand are always in each others face. They probably pick each others nose

Anyway my point being, they have a broad sweeping holistic generalized intelligence..and that's why they're not as dumb as people think

>>14882085
Seriously, is EVERYTHING you've read just popsci garbage? Hate to be the bearer of bad news but your education seems to be from ancient aliens. Nothing about your conclusion relates to "the subconscious" and some weighty Jungian "subconscious" does not exist. It's complete nonsense, along with the satanic panic and repressed memory garbage pushed back then.
>Higher I.Q countries tend to be more individualistic
This has to do with individual wealth and other factors. Which you'd know if you'd do the work and go read things. Literally scientific papers are easily found, many can be read from google scholar or just searching for "some topic" and "study" or "paper". You can either take your apparent fascination with this and GO READ THE ACTUAL SCIENCE or continue to make an ass of yourself in front of anyone who knows anything about it.

>>14881999
>>14882005
It isn't left or right brain, the "right brain" isthe neocortex, while the "left brain" is something below.
>>14882005
You get labelled atistic when you are NOT like that today. Thedefinition who is the odd one and who is normal has essentially switched sides over the last half a century or so.

>>14882102
>It isn't left or right brain, the "right brain" isthe neocortex, while the "left brain" is something below.
Which would be equally wrong, as IQ also reflects on general brain development. Again, ignoring asynchronous development in conditions like autism, a high IQ means everything in your brain is working better from memory to sensory processing to motor functions. Intelligence is a generalized property of the brain and generalized in the brain. There is NO fashion in which "left" or "right" or any other cardinal association makes any sense at all.

I have no idea where you people get this shit from but you've been lied to. Or just sold some bullshit from some other asshat who didn't know how stupid he was. One of the two.

How come IQtards are consistently 110-115 IQ and botlike? What is it about IQ that appeals to the lowest rungs of humanity? Is it just a big psyop to draw in dumb and obnoxious people to discredit the concept?

>>14882114
it's midwit cope

>>14882114
Nah, you're just seeing people with biases and life problems externalizing them with bad reasoning. Similar personalities as a result group together and repeat the same claims like scripture, simply because it "feels right" because it explains or justifies something a person thinks they perceive. No psyop needed. Just regular intellectual laziness or too much trust in ones own intuition. Or narcissism.

>>14882119
I don't know, you sound like a 105-110 IQ to me so your opinions don't count. Anyone else?

>>14882127
This is funny to me.

>>14882132
I know it's deeply upsetting to you but I prefer to have conversations with other confirmed high IQ people.

>>14882133
Bet

>>14882106
As I told you, the labels have been reversed, you get labelled "autistic" if you have any sensory processing at all. You are "supposed" to only have a tiny spotlight of perception (that I suppose the interbrain is capable of doing alone) , but being otherwise unaware of the world like the guy above >>14882085 in order to be considered "neurotypical" today.

>>14882151
Whatever helps you sleep at night. Doesn't make any of your nonsense true.

>>14882106
As I told you, the labels have been reversed, you get labelled "autistic" if you have any sensory processing at all. You are "supposed to" only have a tiny spotlight of perception (that I suppose the thalamus is capable of doing alone) , but be otherwise unaware of the world around you like the guy above >>14882085 # in order to be considered "neurotypical" today.
The connectomes have been measured and mapped. You can see the neocortex has been individually rewired during the person's life when you are "autistic", but those of neurotypical people are all exactly the same. Like some suburb houses that have been bought for "investment" but never lived in.

>>14882152
Different parts of the brain have different functions. How does that sound like nonsense to you? Mainstream science is just wrong about most of the parts and instead tries to cram pretty much everything into the cerebral cortex.

>>14882012
>non compliant
the abstractions measured by science are what make it wrong. good luck nerds.

>>14882099

This is what the Nepals are guaranteed to be bad at:

- math
- chess
- go (board game)
- physics
- electrical engineering
- programming
- mental models
- the scientific method
- rigirous and strict standards
- focusing only on one task for a sustained period
- practicing listening
- learning formal/written language techniques
- reading formal/written language
- playing language games (crossword, scrabble etc)
- expanding your vocabulary
- wearing a suit
- living in an orderly, square living space
- grooming (shaving, body maintenance...no overgrowth)
- practicing law, knowledge of law (barriers/restrictions)
- morality (making boundaries between good and evil)
- judgement
- depth and detail, specializing in one subject
- living according to a strict schedule (up at certain time, bed at certain time, activities at certain time, etc)
- going through a daily ritual (repetitive task)
- resistance, both athletic such as lifting weights, or resisting temptations to develop willpower
- segregation (living compartmentalized, having a room thats different to other family members. being walled off from others)
- listening to classical music (very depth/detail oreintated, with instruments that have technical depth such as the piano)

I don't know if you noticed, but all of these activities heavily involve creating strong dividing lines between one thing and something else. Take math for instance, the "concept" or "perception" of a number like 1, is universal. It doesn't matter what culture or what language, a single unit of something (the number 1) is universally understood. Now take a word like "creamy", this word can mean so many different things to so many people, it can almost be subjective. So something "hard" like math, these are considered "solid" because they create a strong dividing line

(cont...)

>>14882548

It is not a coincidence that there is correlation with these and I.Q. Even westerners being individualistic, is because they create strong mental barriers/dividing lines between self and other. These indigenous tribes do not do this, they see themselves at one with the community they are a part of, aswell as with their surrounding environment

>>14882548
>This is what the Nepals are guaranteed to be bad at:
>a list of all the most heavily dysgenic activities on the planet
Oh.

>>14882559
>dysgenic

All of these activities are strongly dualistic, that means they reduce the amount of room for variety and subjective interpretation, because they lean closer to boolean logic, or hard binary. That's why they are considered "solid". You will notice though, that the more you get like this, the more robotic and boring you become (black and white). They don't call asians "insectoids" for no reason. People like this become so stiff and rigid (because they're so sensible and logical), that they need to consume alcohol to "loosen up" and connect with others

You have to strike a subtle balance between horizontal (expansive/subjective) and vertical (depth/objective) in your thinking

>>14882567
Pseudbabble.

>>14882584

Your rock solid, hard, rigid mind makes you incapable of thinking "outside the box", or even from playfully entertaining the idea. This makes a good filtration/firewall to protect your mind things deemed to be nonsense...but you'll probably be permanently gimped in your thinking, because you didn't combine that left brained vertical thinking, with the horizontal right

>>14882600
It's really funny to watch you project your botlike script-following on me as you spout the same generic tripe that you and your likes have spouted thousands of times.

>>14882606

>>14882617
Stay mad. Your uncalled-for, rambling nonsequitur is strong evidence for your obsessive thought patterns, which go hand in hand with rigidity of mind. You are projecting and now you're foaming at the mouth over getting exposed.

>>14882617
Your rambling nonsequitur strongly suggests that you suffer from obsessive and repetitive thoughts. This trait goes hand in hand with mental rigidity. Your whole post was projection. Stay mad.

Even the Freemasons know this

The compass makes a circle, a circle has no beginning or end point. This represents the horizontal (expansive) right brain. It also represents the feminine, because women are "curvy"

Then you have the square, the square has clearly defined beginning and end points. This represents the vertical (focused) left brain. It also represents the masculine, because men are "rigid"

They say with these 2 tools, God, the architect of the universe created everything. The masculine sperm, goes into the feminine womb of infinite potential, and this gives birth to life

What /sci/ does is only use the square, but they have no access to the compass. These indigenous cultures have access to the compass, but no access to the square. The compass allows you to read between the lines, intuit knowledge, understand symbolism, emotion, the big picture etc. That's why /sci/ is trapped in a straight jacket of logical thought

>>14882639
G is for 'gay' and 'M' is for meds.

>>14880072
>Nepal has on average an IQ of 45. This classifies as almost on the borderline of "severe mental retardation"...yet somehow they still act in ways that suggests more intelligence than a gorilla. Koko the gorilla received IQ scores between 70-90.
most tribal people literally have no idea what a triangle or an odd number are but compared to other animals they can do far more advanced tasks like language, tools, tricking other animals, understand basic physics, etc. researchers are willing to change questions to fit the gorilla but not to fit the tribal person because 1. it beats the entire purpose behind a standardized test and 2. it's near impossible to translate concepts that don't exist in a language.

>>14882548
Most of these are compensatory mechanisms that seem good to high IQ people because high IQ need them to compensate for the narowwness, shalowness, unreliability and inflexibility of tgeir thinking.
>listening to classical music (very depth/detail oreintated, with instruments that have technical depth such as the piano)
Intellectuals have typically near zero to appreciate music, or really anything else with any depth. Theur percetion gets skin deep. I bet most of them listen to classical music because it's a high IQ thing to do, and if they actually like any music, it's something simplistic.

>>14880160
IQ is a normalized metric and the underlying baseline has risen over time

>>14880072
literal meme iq study, and average IQ of 42 is just illogical in a civilized society

>>14880072
Nepal is the home of the Buddha. He was pretty wise at least.
They're just poor and overworked. You can barely even get around from city to city apparently, without it being an ordeal.

The whole fucking point of IQ is literally murdering
>muh retard negroe mutts
by making them take a test and then saying
>we're going to kill you if you score low
it really is that sick and twisted
it really is that genocidal
that is the historical record

>>14883714
No, actually, the whole point is psychiatric testing for conditions, brain traumas, and a laundry list of hundreds of other things. You're equally as stupid as the racists thinking it validates racism.

>>14880278
Please go back to /vp/, no one thinks you're cool because you play Pokemon.

Semi related: why are there so many of these fuckers at my university?

>>14880275
It is when people say Jews having high IQs is why they have more than everyone else

>>14880072
I doubt that iq the average in Nepal is 45. Never been to Nepal but have met numerous people from there and they did not seem any less intelligent than any other asians. Nepali people tend to either have oriental/chinese features or indian features. Neither seemed abo or african tier (or even anywhere close to it)

>>14880478
>And yes, you can improve your IQ
You can't improve g, though

>>14880085
Koko tested for that IQ but what they never tell you is that it was on a child's IQ scale. It would be much lower on an adult scale

>>14881977
>Race and IQ are correlated because race and circumstance are correlated.
They're also highly correlated under similar circumstances. Blacks in America with access to ample nutrition still have significantly lower IQ, and various adoption studies have confirmed it's not due to environment.

>A simple demonstration is height. Using your baseless methodology you would erroneously conclude the "potential height" in the 1800s was what it was. It wasn't. Get the picture dipshit?
Even though you wouldn't see the full potential of each group you'd still get a good relative ranking. You could easily see that the Dutch are taller than the Anglos who are taller than the Chinese who are taller than the Hmong

>>14887915
Not him but that's disingenuous, having access to ample nutrition doesn't mean proper consumption of it anon. Americans have access to all forms of healthy meats, vegetables, vitamins, fruit, nuts and fish. It doesn't mean they are properly consuming it to maintain their health as the links below show.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180226122548.htm#

https://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/micronutrient-inadequacies/overview

>adoption studies have confirmed it's not due to environment.
Most adoption studies have shown their IQs increase into the 90's and usually stay there (typically low to mid 90 average) even when regression to the mean is at play. Which shows their IQ average can benefit from optimization based on more sufficient habits.

>>14880072
I work with a large amount of nepalese. Hard workers, really nice. Some of the girls are cute. Insanely, amazingly stupid. All very short too.

Still, really nice peole. Except for when the men drink.

>>14880883
They are physically a fantastically hardy people. Intelligence is overrated when your primary industry is carrying heavy things for fat Western tourists.

>>14888082
>Hard workers, really nice.
That's the main problem. Many don't have time for anything else but hard work. Parents who might want to keep their kids in school also end up taking them out, just to help out with the farm... and that farm only produces so much to feed the family for a season. They're just stuck in toil. But they could be more if they got a chance.

>>14880072

Bad measurement obviously.
IQ questions have more cultural components than people realize.

Retards who believe iq tests reflect someone's intelligence, have the worst iq ever.
See what I did there? I bet you wont because you have low iq thus youre stupid.

>>14880072
I question this. I'm not questioning the idea that people groups have different IQs, but measuring an "average" at 45 smells like something wrong with their methodology.

I would expect an actual society where IQs are around 45 to resemble some of the extremely primitive tribal people still living in Africa.

At 45 I'd assume your society's understanding of technology tops out at sharpening sticks into spears, and that a smart individual in such a society is a man who usually correctly works out which end of the spear is pointy before throwing it.

It's expect loincloths and a lack of machinery or agriculture. Essentially I'd expect such a people never to advance past the stone age (assuming they make it to stone age).

>>14880373
>>14880409
>Ever trusting a Lynn study
Fitting the data to the conclusion, also known as scientific misconduct

>extrapolating results from the "draw a man" test given to children who had never held a pencil
>children accustomed to having their faces marked for ritual purposes didn't remove the researcher's mark from their face for the mirror test
>taking samples from hospitals for malaria-infected children (protip: malaria is known to cause brain damage in over 50% of victims)
>samples from a school for the retarded located in Spain used as a proxy for average IQ of Equatorial Guinea
>private school that yielded high IQ scores: unrepresentative, because it's a private school.
>private school that yielded low IQ scores: representative

Pic related. The result of the study is the best predictor of an IQ study's inclusion in Lynn's survey.

Source:
Jelte M. Wicherts, Conor V. Dolan, Han L.J. van der Maas, The dangers of unsystematic selection methods and the representativeness of 46 samples of African test-takers, Intelligence, Volume 38, Issue 1, 2010, Pages 30-37, ISSN 0160-2896, http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.intell.2009.11.003

>>14888213
They like to argue "it's the best we have" as if that excuses using a clearly insufficient method.
Funny, yet also a little sad

>>14888329

>noooooo, not my heckin cute asians that look like my waifu from anime
>they can't possibly be as dumb as these ugly looking black people
>this has to be wrong! i hate black people, so black people are the dumbest, i'm sure of it!
>let me go out of my way to find every reason possible to discredit the study

>>14888362
>not my heckin cute asians
This is actually a good point, they love fraudulently inflating Asian IQ's.

In Lynn's paper on Japanese IQ where he estimates an average IQ of 111, the samples drew overwhelmingly from an elite urban population, while white american IQ samples were balanced between urban and rural sources.

Lynn, BTFO, and backpedals, readjusting his estimate to 104, seething "but that's still significantly higher"
This is just part of the playbook, it's what they did in Africa -- inflate the differences as much as possible, so when their misconduct gets checked they can readjust it and still claim a small positive result.

Source: Stevenson, H., Azuma, H. IQ in Japan and the United States. Nature 306, 291–292 (1983). https://doi.org/10.1038/306291a0

>>14880399
Imagine pretending, like Lynn did, that you can determine the average IQ of a nation by averaging the IQ scores of the nations around them.

ex-Nazi scientists forming & funding their own journals to publish bullshit are just yesterday's version of Vixra schizos

>>14888505
Sometimes there are more factors than rural/urban. Thailand's average IQs are above average for the "native" central Thais, but testing works against the minorities (the country is basically a melting pot) where the dialect they speak isn't reflected in their education (like Lao, which resembles Thai, but not exactly). They're forced to work with regular Thai materials and end up failing.
I don't know the details of Nepal, but they got a heavy mix of both Indian and East Asian culture, and multiple languages too. In addition to being a country still struggling with industrializing and families barely getting by just farming themselves to death.

IQ is obviously flawed, just because it's the best measure for intelligence atm (?) it doesn't mean it can't be shit. I've been to a couple car repairs owned by somalis and while they're obviously not the sharpest tools in the shed, they weren't the 62 IQ retards statistics purport them to be, otherwise they wouldn't be able to function on their own and they'd struggle with shit like not shitting themselves in the pants, let alone run any kind of business.

>>14888362
This is unironically the rationale of most midwits, if someone looks dumb then he's dumb, source: ass.
While it can be true in some cases as there is a weak correlation between intelligence and looks, it is often not the case.

>>14880072
itt: gullible people who have no idea what 45 iq looks like. Hint: no country on earth has 45iq on avg. Unironically go outside and touch grass you faggots.