/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14709800
By having a degree of intelligence greater than your stupid peasant brain.

>>14709800
You seem to be implying they flew the lunar lander back to Earth. They didn't, they flew it back to the command module and flew the command module back to Earth.

>>14709800
Because that 'little shitter' was designed and tested for the specific purpose of landing on the moon and ascending back to the module and it was light and sturdy enough to do it.

>>14709810

how the fuck did they do that though. The moon still has gravity. It's not like you use a bit of fuel and fly out of the moon

>>14709800
basic calculations and smart people. if you can't grasp this then go back to middle school.

>>14709823
>The moon still has gravity.
Much lower gravity, no air resistance.

>It's not like you use a bit of fuel and fly out of the moon
Yes it is.

>>14709800
never happened lmao
/thread

>>14709806
Not an argument soi soientist.

>>14709836
what draws that concussion? you just spouted off some retarded shit without defend your augment

>>14709844
As if it was not obvious enough that soientists lack intelligence and especially common sense.

funny how Wernher Von Braun had a bible verse on his gravestone talking about the firmament

"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork."

>>14709847
so your rebuttal is a meme and still not presenting a case at the most basic level to substantiate your thoughts. very good...

>>14709823
how the fuck do you mange to have so little intelligence and so little education?

>>14709858
Sorry you have been brainwashed since school to believe in those so generous yet incredibly corrupt and rotten to the core scientists.
If you end up in Hell, pray to God and Jesus and you will be saved.

>>14709830
It would still require quite a lot of force though. I did some quick math. Lifting the module of the moon would need the equivalent force of accelerating a 3 ton vehicle from 0 to 100 km/h in 3 seconds.

>>14709888
hey sorry you are so angry about your views.i would love to have a discussion with you on a single talking point and hear your views. if you would like to make a actual case about such as presenting evidence, even at the basic level i would love to reply

- thanks

>>14709888

If your god sends you to fucking eternal suffering as punishment for getting the shape of the Earth wrong, he may aswell just be a sadist lmao

>>14709830
It would still require quite a lot of force though. I did some quick math. Lifting the module of the moon would need the equivalent force of accelerating a [math] 3 [/math] ton vehicle from [math] 0 [/math] to [math] 100 \, \text{km}/h[/math] in [math] 3.2 [/math] seconds.

>>14709906
If you are looking for proof, you can find that among all my posts, but you unfortunately dishonestly skipped over them and claimed there are none.

>>14709917
I said *if* .

>>14709923
are you mentally ill?

I enjoy flat earth schizos alot. I watched The Next Level yesterday, and it was genuinely hilarious

>Bro look at this old lady that I totally did not pay to be emotional about being le lied to. Ignore my horrible acting skills
>Bro ACKSCHUALLY every historical figure is made up
>BRO THERE ARE ACTUALLY OTHER CONTINENTS OUTSIDE OF THE ICE WALL LMAO LOOK AT THIS OLD MAP
>Dude just trust me. I'm not schizophrenic

I thought it'd be different from all the flat earth garbage I watched so far, but this ended up being even worse

>>14709929
>>14709930
Imagine seething this much.
Man the brainwashing going on via academia sure did a number on you, eh?

>>14709930
can you present a flat earth model that is just to all observation and phenomena?

>>14709935

I have a genuine question, man. Do you actually believe this shit? Do you think that the image you posted is clever or something?

If you do not understand physics, that is not my problem. It is not anybody's problem that you ignore all the proof and physics and math because it makes your head hurt and instead you resort to toddler-tier explanations for everything.

Flat earthers fucking believe ships disappearing is due to render distance like it's a fucking bideogame lmao

watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OfbwhU5PQk

if you want to see manchildren bitch and moan and make insane claims like ultra-advanced civilizations beyond the ice wall

>>14709946
If you do not understand that physics is garbage that will be "outdated"(aka proven false), there is not much I can do for you.
Science is garbage and will always be garbage. That is why soientists have to "patch things up" via making more absurd laws to hold the whole worthless physics model together. Anybody smarts knows science is a scam.

>>14709953

>anyone smart

this does not apply to facebook schizophrenics tho lol

>>14709920
It accelerated steadily with 2.04 m/s2 to reach an altitude of 11.5km , thats like a fun ride, nothing to crazy

>>14709964
The truth burns, eh?

>>14710000

why do schizos make such ugly fucking images? What the fuck is that laughing emoji lmao

Corsica, and other places slightly below the horizon, can be seen under certain conditions thanks to refractions

>>14710022
Sure thing soi boy

>>14709953
That picture is retarded on many levels; for one thing, the concept of dark matter predates dark energy by more than a century. Its fine to criticize scientific ideas, that is how progress is made, but you need to at least understand said ideas & why they came about to produce any meaningful criticism. If you mess up basic shit like a simple timeline of when theories have been proposed, and for what reasons, don't expect anyone to take your ideas seriously.

>>14710029

The typical flat earther. Just call all the science fake and pretend you're very smart despite not even graduating highschool. Downloading all Facebook jpgs from your prefered schizo Facebook group without even confirming whether theyre real also makes you sound like a very intelligent individual

>>14710040
/thread

>>14709821
>and tested
This is where your imagination got the better of you.

>>14709923
I especially like the trumpets. If you'd ever wanted to go to the moon again (wink wink) don't forget the trumpets.

>>14710040
Sorry I trust reality more than your made up garbage. At least taking a few more boosters may humble your arrogant soientist mind.

>>14710052
Trumpets make the crucial ingredient, without trumpets it will end like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM1wjs5nWXQ

Flat earthers are all glowies that try to make other conspiracy theories look crazy

>>14710080
>other conspiracy theories
there's only ONE "conspiracy" "theory", tranny

>>14710080
To be fair some of them are trolls in it for their own amusement, and some of them are idiots who fell for glow nigger well poisoning.

>>14710099
>well poisoning

>>14710104

The moons of Jupiter disprove a geocentric flat model.

>>14710104

How many images do you have in your flat earth bait folder

>>14710109
>The moons of Jupiter

>>14710022
>you can see the curve with your naked eye chud
>no not that that's a refraction mirage
lol

>>14710122
Yes, the moons of Jupiter, those things you can track the motion of with a home telescope. I am sorry your father didn't love you enough to get you a Tasco & teach you how to use it. He probably spent his nights molesting you instead.

>>14710104
Surely they lie about space. That big lie is called the Big Bang theory.
If you were smart enough to understand things instead of memorizing facts, you would figure that out by yourself.

>>14710168
BBT stems from heliocentric ball earth

>>14710177
That is the secret of successful lies: you place a piece of truth as a bait, and only after the victim catches the bait, the hooks of deception should get to work, but not before that.

Don't change the subject guys, we are talking about advanced (for the time..) film productions here, not your about your straw men.
Why don't you make your thread about flat earth for once, and stop babbling about it where it - obviously - doesn't belong.

>>14710206
I think your question has been answered already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AdClmPD6r4

>>14710080
They are paid to try in vain to discredit white accomplishments

>>14710213
>le niggers are le preventing us from exploring le space

>>14709946
His one and only mission is to keep you from understanding how Central Banking enslaves you and that Jews are the final boss.

Reminder. Flat earthers are pedophiles.

>>14709800
>Board called Science and Math
>Is full of flat earthers and Christian fundamentalists

>>14709800
KSP literally teaches you this shit.
Slap a big enough rocket with a few stages on anything and you can go to space, mind the advanced engineering that goes into designing these types of rockets though, use the rocket in space to control your trajectory, moons gravity is like 7x lower than earths so they just docked with the command module and flew home.

>>14709840
Wtf buzz Aldrin white nationalist? He is showing the okay symbol.

>>14710047
>This is where your imagination got the better of you.
You know what I mean, the previous iterations were gradually tested. Of course they didn't flew this one the Moon to do an unmaned test before.

>>14710055
>At least taking a few more boosters
What a surprise, conspiracitards are antivax.
I bet you don't believe in dinosaurs either ?

>>14710122

I dont get why flat earthers even lie about this shit. I literally saw Mars in great detail with an amateur telescope. Fucking baffling

>>14709800

this is by far the dumbest topic i have ever came across there is zero constructive posts in this topic

>>14710549
>[beaner video game] literally teaches you this shit

>>14710000
The person who made this butt fugly image has never seen a beach if he thinks that 10m above the water the ocean looks like this.

>>14710122
literally buy a telescope

>>14710484
i will believe them when they explain a working earth centric model without any links to god-bothering books

>>14710822
>when they explain a working earth centric model without any links to god-bothering books
Who gives a shit what you believe? You should fuck off.

>>14710153

>>you can see the curve with your naked eye chud

yeah you can

>refraction

yeah

Don't bitch and moan about muh mirages when flat earthers believe that stars are painted on the dome or are holes in it

>>14710849
>yeah you can

>>14710860
kek where did you find these? Did you infiltrate a flat earther telegram channel or did you make them ironically?

>>14710860

the second picture would be true if Earth were a tiny fucking ball. But the problem is that it's gigantic and we are like atoms compared to it. Do you think an atom would see the curvature of a basketball on its surface?

>m-muh it's not real cuz I can't see it

>>14709800
they didn't. Simple A-S

>>14709920
>>14709967
Spouting off numbers shouldn't be permitted. If you are going to make claims and counter claims you should at least show how you are making your calculations, regardless of who is the right or wrong.

When I see people expressing a failure to know something my instinct is to try and help them. But I know that is futile and them knowing is unimportant to anything. In fact, the dumber others are the better off I will be.

>>14709888
>t. never heard of camera exposure.
why tf do you think they had the golden visors?

>>14709847
that image pretty much sums up your understanding of this topic. nasa is literally going back to the moon this decade, van allen belts just aren't a problem at the speeds used to get to the moon. they weren't an issue then and they aren't now

>>14709927
majority of europe is atheist or agnostic and they're a hell of a lot better off than us

>>14710714

its a dumb topic because more information about the moon landings and liftoffs is available than any other event of the 20th century.

https://youtu.be/T0MD3_QqAhw

>>14712125
I'm all for numbers but you need to show your working out.

>>14712242
lol

>>14709800
The moon's mass is much lower than Earth's, and its atmosphere is basically nonexistent.
The only real concern is re-entry.

>>14709800
>>14709823
By making the lander ~52% fuel by mass.
>The lander has a dry mass of 8300 kg, a propellant mass of 22000 kg and a payload
capacity of 12000 kg
Source: https://spudislunarresources.com/Bibliography/p/102.pdf

>>14709930
Flat Earth is great, it's really neat world building. like they have their own physics and lore and their own "science" and stuff. I'm surprised Netflix hasn't taken all the flat earth literature and turned it into a science fiction story.

Butt hat being said, nothing is naturally flat, why would the earth be? And they have the whole firmament thing with is a fucking dome, which is half a sphere so even in their own logic they still need some round aspect to it.

Earth is neither flat or round. Its somewhere in between.

>>14710000

>>14710484
You know where to go for the censored safe space experience that you desire, yet instead of going there, you insist on inflicting yourself on 4chan where you know that you'll be unwelcome.
Why not just use the censored safe space which is already available to you instead of trying to insist that 4chan should be censored to appeal to your sensibilities?

>>14709920
So it's like a sports car. You'd expect the lander with 22 tons of rocket fuel to compete with sports cars, wouldn't you?

>>14712125
Those were pretty easy calculations. You could double check it in a few seconds

>>14712945
Don't overestimate conspiracy theorists

>>14709800
Legit Google it, it's not even that difficult of thing to understand. I learned it in Kerbal Space Program videos when I was deciding whether or not to buy that history DLC

>>14709953
>will be proven false
See this is hilarious. This little phrase tells me you have no understanding of physics the way an actual physicist has. You just made up your world view without learning even the slightest bit of college mathematics to understand the way the world works, and you are hoping someone who understands all that and has your worldview comes along and proves you right. Well, let's seethe if that's gonna happen, you just wait.

>>14709800
German engineering

>>14709800
only the top portion flew off the moon. only carrying crew samples and air. then it docked with the capsule module and everything was transfer over and undocked. the crew capsule had the heat shield and parachutes.

>>14710091
>there's only ONE "conspiracy" "theory", tranny
which is

>>14713118
inb4 it involves the oldest of the three abrahamic religions

>>14713162

>>14709800
if I was there, I would have crushed that tiny ship like a tin can with my moon strength and then grabbed the astronauts by the ankles and spun them around and flung them out into space, because that is what they get for faking the moon landing.

it wasn't faked, promise

>>14713187
"based" is a shortened from of the formerly more common phrase "race based", so what he is saying is that a moon base should have strict racial qualifications for entry.

looks real to me

nasa have never faked space

>>14709920
Reaching lunar orbit from the surface would take the exact amount of delta-V that it would take to land on the surface from orbit in the first place. They didn't as much force however since they left the descent module on the surface. The ascent module (~4700kg) was like one third of the total mass of the LM (~15000kg)

Your estimate for 100km/h is akshually a bit low for what's needed. That's only about 0.027 km/s. The cost of lunar orbit from the surface (or vice versa) is 1.9km/s (see attached handy diagram for dummies)

he's on the moon

cool moon

>>14710713
Why would you fake your heterosexuality anon?

>>14714033
Evidence?

truly fascinating, how instead of going, "I don't understand this, better look it up and learn something new" these people prefer "I don't understand this, therefore it must be fake"

>>14712242

Now how do moon landing deniers explain footage like this? How do you simulate this shit in a fucking hollywood studio? Even the debris falling off is clearly falling slowly because of the low gravity.

>>14710080
Flat Earth is literally viral marketing to sell P900 Nikon cameras

>>14712242
>>14714064
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWJPMr2UteA

>>14713972

holy fucking shit why are flat earthers and schitzos incapable of making an image or video that actually looks visually pleasing

also
>IT'S CGI BECAUSE... IT JUST IS, OKAY?!!?!

Irrelevant argument because Nasa are not the only people that send back photos of Earth

>>14713981
>>14713999

Horrible fucking photoshop on the first pic, but I'll bite. From which internet shithole did you get these images?

>>14710047
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH0VYi1G6jo

Every plat earther just needs to be taken up into orbit and kicked out so that they can personally verify their claim.
For Moon landing deniers we will be kinder, they get a nice safe landing.
Let us be done with them all.

>>14714084
https://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/02archives/Apollo_Reality.html

>>14714079
looks real to you?

>>14714078

Kindly do explain how you can fake ascending into the moon's orbit in a studio with 1969 technology, and kindly do explain how it is possible that if you shine a laser at one of the reflectors left behind near the landing grounds, it bounces right back even today.

"It's not real" is not an argument
"I can't afford a laser" is not an argument

Also holy shit imagine digging up some literallywho schizo video with 500 views from a literallywho channel (probably yours) that speeds up moon landing footage and claims "AAAAAAAAAAAA THE GRAVITY IS LE FAKE AAAA"

You'll be BTFOd again in a few years when the Artemis missions start. Then you'll have to deboonk some le epic colony building 4k footage

>>14714129
>Kindly do explain how you can fake ascending into the moon's orbit in a studio with 1969 technology
read part two: https://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/02archives/Apollo_Reality.html
>and kindly do explain how it is possible that if you shine a laser at one of the reflectors left behind near the landing grounds, it bounces right back even today.
they were bouncing lasers off the moon before any so called reflectors existed, lasers just got more powerful, although they still barely get any photons back today

>>14714122

Yes. Why wouldn't it? It's not very hard to send a big camera into orbit lmao. You screaming "AAAA CGI" is not an argument, and it does not prove anything.

There are like a gorillion spage agencies lmao. They all take pictures of the earth. The Jap Himawari takes photos every minute
https://himawari8.nict.go.jp/

>>14714136
>Yes. Why wouldn't it?
does shrek look real to you as well?
>https://himawari8.nict.go.jp/
wow cloud data collected from weather balloons wrapped around a CGI globe, impressive

>>14714119

Photos taken by Bob Nye were of a test site that doesn't even look anything like the actual lunar surface.

>Lmao bro look at this test site they used it to fake the landing bro just trust me

Schizo ramblings. Not evidence. Also ugly as fuck website lmao

>>14714139

Lmao this is what you schizo retards do all the time

>AAAAAAAAA IT'S ALL CGI LMAO NASA CARTOONS
>PHOTOS FROM ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES? NO THEY ARE ALL SATANIC CGI MAKERS TOO BROO
>IM NOT INSANE LMAO YOU'RE THE RETARD

It must be fun living in a world where everything you don't like and don't understand is CGI and faked

>>14714146
>Photos taken by Bob Nye were of a test site that doesn't even look anything like the actual lunar surface.
proof?

>>14714150
why does it look real to you?

Flat earth fails on every point.

The geocentric flat earth has ...

• No working model, or map.

• No way to determine proper distances, or directions between two point on the earth not sharing the same longitude.

• No explanation for how the sun and the moon circle the earth, or how the sun migrates from the tropic of Capricorn to the tropic of Cancer and back over the year.

• No idea why the ancient Greeks such as Pythagoras, Aristotle, Eratosthenes and Aristarchus believed the earth was a sphere.

• No idea what P and S shockwaves detected by seismology equipment tells us about the internal structure of the earth, and the shape and dimensions of the surface of the earth.

• No idea what powers the sun and the stars.

• No idea of the distance to the stars.

• Clueless as to why almost all stars don't appear to change position in the sky from opposite sides of earth's orbit around the sun when the phenomena of parallax says they should, and why we can only use the parallax method for measuring the distance of stars that are closest to the earth. Luckily, Polaris is one that we can determine the distance to using parallax, because it is also a Cepheid variable star, which allows the distance to be measured to much more distant stars where the parallax method not longer works.

• No idea of the distance from the earth to the planets, or even much about them at all.

>>14714162

• No idea why binary stars obey Newton's law of gravitation.

• No explanation as to why we can only see 59% of the total surface area of the moon when, from a flat earth perspective we should be able to see most of it, including the dark side of the moon.

• No idea why the moon appears upside down in the southern hemisphere compared to how it looks in the northern hemisphere, and why the phases of the moon are on opposite sides of the Moon, and why it looks circular from all vantage points on the earth.

• No idea why sunspots rotate in the opposite direction in the southern and northern hemispheres, or even what sun spots are.

• No believable explanation for how GPS is implemented across the world.

• No explanation as to why aircraft carry ring laser gyros onboard capable of detecting the rotation of the earth.

• No idea how it is possible to develop gravitational maps of the earth's surface, or why anyone would want one, or how they could be used.

• No explanation for how eclipses work, especially lunar eclipses, or how to predict them correctly.

• No idea why the Humber bridge, the Verrazzano Narrows bridge are built to account for the earth's curvature.

• No idea why CERN, LIGO and the Stanford linear accelerator vacuum rings and arms are constructed to take account of the earth's curvature.

• No idea why physicists working on LIGO, the gravity wave detector, were awarded Nobel prizes in physics.

• No idea why geodetic surveyors keep claiming the earth is an oblate spheroid.

>>14714165

• No idea why Google Earth does not publish its underlying flat earth model that allows it to project the earth as a globe.

• No explanation as to why the sun rises due east for everyone on the earth on the equinox.

• No idea why an observer on the equator during an equinox does not see the sun set at an angle 19° above the horizon.

• No idea why there should be a discernible horizon that looks like the edge of the ocean viewed from a beach. The horizon should really be a blur as the farther we look out across the flat earth, the more light is scattered and the more particles in the atmosphere obscuring the view.

• No idea how it is possible to see the sun set twice simply by changing your height above the earth (quickly by just a few tens of metres).

• No reasonable explanation as to how Polaris can be used in conjunction with a sextant in the northern hemisphere to determine latitude.

• No explanation as to why the Arctic and Antarctic experience months of days and nights at differ times of the year.

• No explanation why bright little objects called satellites by some are regularly visible in the night sky following a predicted path across the sky

• No explanation for how tides work.(What to say about Magma tides,their biscuit Earth should crack in pieces)

• No explanation how (most times) boats disappear over the horizon when they should be visible on a flat earth.

• No explanation as to why the horizon does not rise to eye level.

• No credible explanation why helium balloons fitted with non-fish eye cameras often detect the curvature of the earth.

• No credible explanation for the existence of the "Downward" force called gravity.

• No explanation that does not implicitly make use of the theory of gravity for the atmospheric pressure gradient from high to low pressure with altitude, especially if we live in a dome.

>>14709920
We can do that on the Earth easily with much more gravity, wind resistance, friction lol

A modified Honda Civic from 95' can do that.

>>14714174

• No idea why (almost without exception) hurricanes and typhoons rotate in opposite directions in northern and southern hemispheres respectively.

• No explanation for the Coriolis effect observable in controlled experiments such as those conducted by Ascher H. Shapiro in the 1960s.

• No explanation as to why the northern celestial pole rotates counter clockwise in the northern hemisphere, and the southern celestial pole rotates clockwise in the southern hemisphere.

• No idea what Antarctica even looks like, and where the South Pole is physically located.

• No idea why Venus has phases. Bye bye Geocentric system.

• No idea why planets, e.g. Mars, exhibit retrograde motion. Hello Heliocentric system.

• No idea why the planets and their moons in the solar system appear to be obeying Newton's laws of planetary motion.

• No explanation whatsoever why Stellar Aberration occurs.

• No idea why clouds are illuminated from the bottom at sun set.

• Can't explain how a commercial aircraft can fly from Perth to Sydney in only 4 hours 10 mins across the flat earth, as to achieve this, it would need to fly faster than an F18 on afterburner all the way.

• No idea why the CO2 atmosphere of Mars appears to "Cling" to the exterior of its spherical spinning surface without the need for physical containment. This phenomenon is observable on others planets too.

• No idea why the sun and the moon don't change in angular size from rising to setting by a factor of 2 to 3 since they are local to the earth, and no idea why the sun according to the inverse law of radiation is not 4 to 9 times brighter at midday than at sunset and sunrise when viewed from Australia.

>>14714179

• No idea how it is possible to measure the value of G, the universal gravitational constant, and in so doing, verify the theory of gravity.

• No scientific papers published in the last 100 years supporting the flat earth.

• No idea why there is snow on height mountains with a local sun as it has to get warmer and snow should melt if you get closer to the sun.

Now the globe earth and the heliocentric model have answers that are consistent with each other to all of the above that the flat earth can't explain, but the globe earth is wrong and the flat earth is correct , even though the flat earth model is almost useless at explaining anything?

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>>14710029
Can someone debunk this?
I found a photo on Twitter of a guy standing on the cliffs of dover and you can clearly see France in the distance

Calculator says it should be hidden by 54 feet

>>14714185

>ALL THESE PHENOMENA CAN ONLY BE EXPLAINED ON A GLOBE EARTH, BUT LOOK AT THIS LE EPIC FLAT PICTURE OF THE EARTH XD

I accept your concession. Please do not procreate. Hopefully some faggot pays for your one-way trip to space. You'd probably scream that the windows are displaying CGI too, though.

>>14714206
still waiting for public space travel...

>>14714204

Why do flat earth schizos make the ugliest fucking videos

>>14714227
literal retards and boomers who don't understand editing software

>>14714206
maybe science isn't good enough to explain all physical phemomena, ever thought of that? or is science your god?

>>14714162
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>>14714184

Thanks anon, amazing, could you possibly help with my question?
>>14714204

Also, unfortunately, I must be missing something because I actually live near Niagara Falls and have seen the Rogers Center and Toronto in clarity frequently. >>14714220


I'm assuming it has something to do with water as every example I've seen has a large body of water in-between the viewer and target.

>>14714231

>I do not understand what science is

Brave, xir

>>14714242
science is perfect?

>>14714248

Far from it. Still explains how stuff works on a globe earth.

>>14714256
spacetime is real?

Space jokes.

>>14714310

>if I put wrong info in an anime scene, I will look le smart

Are all of you manchildren?

>>14714343
>t. antichrist

real or cgi?

>>14714343
this is what anime posters look like in irl

>>14714359
i guarantee they believe the earth is a globe

>It's the biggest and most funded conspiracy in the history of mankind, with every nation in on it
>but those satanists are also sloppy and leave behind easter eggs to le troll freethinkers such as myself like asteroids that resemble a skull
>here's how me, a reject who didn't graduate highschool, nor has ever worked in a non minimum wage dead-end job, figured it all out with the help of these Facebook .jpgs and my /x/ friends
>also I happen to be very intelligent. Even more so than all the sheep scientists and pilots that are brainwashed into dedicating their lives to observing and working with stuff that doesn't exist
>please ignore that you can observe the galilean moons, and several nebulas, the andromeda galaxy and our own galaxy with the naked eye or an amateur telescope. Theyre all cgi projected onto the firmament lulz

>>14714369
awww i know you want the earth to be a globe so badly and you're upset

it's okay *pats head*

you can live in your delusion if it makes you happy

just compute Taylor polynomials bro

>>14714365

You guys don't actually believe this shit, right? It's all a troll, right?? You can fucking observe the orbits of the moons of Jupiter and easily determine that other celestial bodies have things orbiting around them too. You can observe this all with a cheap telescope. You can see the galaxy in a place with no light pollution. You can see Andromeda with the naked eye, and in great detail with a telescope. Not to mention the countless things that do not work on a flat model (which you cant even agree on).

I watch FE documentaries and always hope that something new is brought up, but it's always midwits shocked at the speed of the earth, babbling about hidden civilizations beyond the ice wall or whatever. It's all the same arguments that have been disproven a bajillion times. You just like to ignore the disproving so you can live on in your little bubble, giving money to grifters that probably don't even believe what they are saying

I assume you are all bored teenage larpers. It would be scary to think some of you are adults with the right to vote.

>>14714423
oh you know what the lights in the sky are? observation is only one part of the scientific method

you haven't been to space and it seems like the public never will despite us supposedly landing on the moon in the 60s

>>14714369
>>please ignore that you can observe the galilean moons, and several nebulas, the andromeda galaxy and our own galaxy with the naked eye or an amateur telescope. Theyre all cgi projected onto the firmament lulz
you have never looked through a telescope, you have never made any of those observations.

>>14714423
you scientism fags have no scepticism at all, completely dogmatic, you don't dare question anything

>>14714447
I have made those observations. Its not like amateur telescopes are all the expensive or hard to buy.

>>14714447

I'm sorry that your father did not love you and did not go outside at night to observe the planets through a telescope with you

>>14714449

This image must be fucking bait. No way you're this retarded

>>14714461
His dad was probably busy molesting him at night. Flat Earthers are full of pedophiles & glow niggers. (But then, I repeat myself).

>>14714476
literally the reference grid they use for working out kinematics you tard

Minatures?

>>14714387

Explain how evil Satanists convinced millions of employed educated people and every single government to not expose the plot, but they still leave behind childish easter eggs and middle school project tier mistakes in all of their evil schemes and works.

>>14709923
that's 23 layer insulation against sun's heat, the cold of space, and micro-meteorites.
The actual hull looks a lot cooler without the shielding.
pic related. Aluminum hull, with Titanium fasteners.

A minature?

>>14714480

>Go to le moon to le own soviet union
>Win space race
>Moon is a boring fucking rock and you have the worries of a nuclear war anyway, so may aswell not invest in such garbage
>Abandon the technology because it's not needed anymore
>50 years later, schizos think you are evil lizard people that faked everything
>Ok let's go back then. Here's Artemis lol
>Schizos screech some more about how everything will be CGI

I feel bad for the lizard Satanists that are trying to hide God, honestly. Must be annoying having to deal with retards

>>14714493
you could chalk that one up to telephoto vs wide angle lenses, except the background doesn't change, so it must've been a painted backdrop.

>>14714487
this implies that these millions of people know there's a conspiracy, they don't, they're people like you

>>14714499

>UM WTF THESE 2 SAME CARS FROM THE SAME COMPANY HAVE THE SAME DESIGN??!?! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NIGGERMAN HELPPPPPP CARS ARE A HOAXXXXXXX

>>14714493
>retard discovers parallax

>>14714487
you're probably a le atheist and could ask the same question about how millions of educated people could be fooled into believing in Jesus

Jesus is Lord though

>>14714504

Yeah bro I bet the 5G waves get streamed right into their brains and trick them into thinking the Earth is round when they use the fucking curvature to fly around the earth in planes

A conspiracy works on a government level. Not fucking internationally in a world where every country hates the other. The absolute farthest you could stretch this is that the Americans faked the moon landing. Not that every single government in modern history is lying about the shape of the Earth to hide a God that only 2 billion people believe in. (even less because there are sure as hell not 2 billion true Christians that believe in a flat earth) If you believe that countries like China or Russia would work together with the West to le epically trick some fucking basement-dwelling American failures into thinking that the Earth is round, then you are genuinely delusional and clueless on how politics work. Even more so if you believe that it is possible to trick millions of educated people that dedicate their lives to this shit into believing it fully and never spilling the beans.
The fucking president of the US can't even hide that he got a blowjob from some whore. If you believe it is possible to trick the entire world for centuries, without a single classified document leaking or ANYBODY speaking up, you are mentally ill and living in a fantasy land. The next step in your denial would be claiming that all our memories get altered by satanic beams

I truly believe flat earthers are just bored lonely people with nothing to do, so they search for some meaning in their boring lives by clinging to false fringe beliefs to feel special and like people that discovered some big hidden truth. It is nothing more than an ego thing.

>>14714527
>countries like China or Russia
What makes you believe in "countries"?

>>14714537

You believe that the world exists?!?!

Words contained within the name.

>>14714547

>letters form words

woah... deep...

>>14714078
even "corrected" when he throws that long thing when sped up the dust his foot kicks up looks completely unnatural as it flies at-least a foot from
minimal momentum.
Simply put: sped up looks more fake than the default footage rate.
it makes them look like it's in a silent film from the 1800s where humans move around at hyper-speed.

mods delete this shit /x/ thread

>222 replies
>50 posters

mental illness

>>14714527
If space is what we're told it is, why isn't the US busy colonising it before other superpowers? Why is public space travel taking so long?

The current model of the universe benefits all countries/governments. If the earth is a globe as they say it is, then all the land has been discovered and all the countries have been established. Resources are limited therefore have value. This doesn't mean everyone in governments know the truth, this would be something that military intelligence handle. Why don't all military intelligence secrets get exposed by your logic?

If the earth isn't a globe, then could there be more land? More resources? It would cause societal chaos, countries would have disorder. The world's population would be questioning reality, when at the moment we're contained within the current globe paradigm which is essentially materialistic and benefits the world order.

You may think it's schizo, but large populations have believed in bullshit before, why do you think we're different today?

>>14714584
>could there be more land?

>>14714584
>If space is what we're told it is
Mostly empty and extremely expensive to reach, you mean?

Words in the name.

>>14714593
Well I wouldn't feel safe doing that in a craft that is known to have exploded killing all its crew twice.
Which is why the program was scrapped.

>>14714590
>>14714584

*kills your geocentric worldview*

>>14714615
>saturn exists therefore earth cant be flat

>>14714611

LMAO

>SPACE IS... LE FAKE
>ADVANCED CIVILIZATIONS BEHIND A MAGICAL ICE WALL.... LE REAL

Literal manchildren believing in utopical lands beyond an ice wall because their own lives are too boring lmao

>>14714506
the n word is racist

>>14714598
I thought you space autists love the thought of colonising the planets and extracting the resources that are supposedly out there?

>>14714619

>bro trust me all the dots in the sky are stars painted on the firmament
>BRO WTF WHAT ARE YOU DOING DON'T INVENT THAT TELESCOPE NOOOOOO DON'T OBSERVE THE PLANETS IN GREATER DETAIL
>NOOOO DON'T OBSERVE THOSE MOONS OF JUPITER GOING AROUND IT. HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO KEEP PEOPLE UNDER CONTROL IF SOMETHING CONTRADICTS THE HOLY TEXTS??!?!
>B-BRO THE PLANETS ARE NOT ACTUALLY OTHER WORLDS. THEY ARE ALSO LE PAINTED ON THE FIRMAMENT. THOSE DOTS THAT APPEAR AND DISAPPEAR AROUND JUPITER THAT YOU CAN SEE FOR YOURSELF ARE JUST STARS THAT ARE FEELING A BIT SILLY

>>14714626

yes and it's still expensive as shit right now and extremely fucking difficult to colonize planets billions of miles away. Don't see how he said anything contradictory lol

>>14714630
>looking at moving lights i've never been to is truth

>>14714630
>jupiter and its satellites exist
>therefore the earth can't be flat

>>14714636

>he believes Madagascar is real

lmao fucking Madagasartard sheep. Never even been there or seen it but you still believe it exists, huh? If you haven't been there or you haven't seen it with your own eyes, it doesn't exist

I wish my imagination was this good

>>14714635
could at least start with the moon, what's taking so long? apparently we landed there multiple times in the 60s/70s

>>14714644
the public can actually go to madagascar, when are you going to jupiter?

>>14714637

therefore the Earth cannot be the center of the universe

All the other planets we observe are round and rotating, therefore we live on such a world too.

>>14714649

have YOU seen Madagascar? Fucking believing everything you are told. Like when people try going to the ice wall aka Antarctica, but they just get sent on a cruise around an island full of penguins lmao

>>14714651
>therefore the Earth cannot be the center of the universe
non-sequitur
>All the other planets we observe are round and rotating, therefore we live on such a world too.
more faulty logic, pool balls are spherical therefore the pool table is spherical, not that we even know if the lights in the sky are actually spherical anyway, just because something looks like it is doesn't mean it is

>>14714584
Because we're run by bleeding heart faggots who'd prefer we "solve all our problems on Earth before we spend resources on space" - we spend $20B a year on NASA and $400B a year on niggergibs and foreign aid.

>>14714649

Man, I'd just say the fucking obvious about the photos we got up close, but you believe everything is fabricated CGI, so there is probably no point..

>>14714656
The world is secretly run by penguins. Fuck those pudgy bastards.

>>14714656
i can book a flight to madagascar if i want, can't do that with jupiter

antarctica is the highest "continent" in the world, but yes you can only go to a limited part of it with penguins as a member of the public

>>14714658

>pool balls are spherical therefore the pool table is spherical

apples and oranges. We live on a world that can very easily be compared to the other worlds by just observing it, and then you just make the logical conclusion that we are not some magical exception because the Bible says so

>just because something looks like it is doesn't mean it is

ironic when every flat earther thinks the Earth is flat because they don't see the curvature

>not that we even know if the lights in the sky are actually spherical anyway

Through dimming, we can pretty accurately guess that those dots have things orbiting around them too, so you make another logical conclusion, which is that those bright dots are distant stars with planets going around them. No, saying that I didn't see it with my own eyes is not an argument. Us not being an exception in the universe is much more believable than that stars are painted on a magical dome and we are like babies in a cradle

>>14714659
you really think the US give a shit about that if they can colonise space? the reason funding for nasa is so low is because space is fake

>>14714660
post a photo of jupiter that you think isn't CGI and explain why

>>14714659
>we spend $20B a year on NASA
>we
you're not the one calling the shots and you don't pay taxes. you're a college kid, daddy pays all your bills

>>14714651
>the earth isn't at the center of the universe
>therefore it can't be flat

>>14714678
>the reason funding for nasa is so low is because space is fake
It's actually quite high. NASA exists so that the worldly powers have control over new technologies and creativity.

>>14714678

>explain why this photo of an apple isn't fake, you fucking shill

Your only actual evidence that such photos are fake is that the Bible doesn't say that space exists. It is impossible to prove that a photo of a planet is CGI. Going "NUH UH IT DOESN'T HECKIN LOOK REAL BECAUSE... IT JUST DOESN'T, OKAY?!?!" is not an argument. Unfortunately, flat earthers cannot actually form an argument that is more coherent than that to disprove le ebil cgi.

>>14714685

>It's flat because.... Bible says so.. okay?!?!
>DUDE DID YOU HECKIN DISRESPECT THE BIBLE BY DOING YOUR OWN RESEARCH? DO YOU WANNA HECKIN BURN IN HELL?

>>14714694
>you don't like Christians
>therefore the earth can't be flat

>>14714677
>We live on a world
already assuming we live on a "world" like other "worlds", logical fallacy
>and then you just make the logical conclusion that we are not some magical exception because the Bible says so
even in your model we are the exception since there's human life here
>ironic when every flat earther thinks the Earth is flat because they don't see the curvature
indeed, observation is not enough
>you make another logical conclusion, which is that those bright dots are distant stars with planets going around them
how is that a logical conclusion? huge amount of assumption there. they're just moving lights in the sky, that's all you truly know personally
>No, saying that I didn't see it with my own eyes is not an argument. Us not being an exception in the universe is much more believable than that stars are painted on a magical dome and we are like babies in a cradle
until you've gone into space and looked back at earth and observed the "solar system" in action, you cannot say we are the same as the lights in the sky

>Flat religious autists pretending they are oppressed by le ebil deep state lizard satanists, as if they did not spend centuries burning people at the stake or forcing them to abandon their research and beliefs for questioning the flat geocentric model
>those same people believe they have it worse than all those people that advocated for globe earth during the middle ages and early modern era because their schizo Youtube videos get taken down

literal entitled manchildren

>>14714690
>It is impossible to prove that a photo of a planet is CGI.
Is it possible to prove that it is a photo of a planet?

>>14714689
funding for the actual military is very high, nasa is just a PR front for the public, the "astronauts" are probably CIA actors, look how fake these fags are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmcwW-8CC6E
>>14714690
still waiting on a real photo of jupiter

>>14714694
>its another episode of terminally uncreative atheists attempting to co-opt memes which have been successfully employed against them because atheists are incapable of creativity, monkey like imitative behavior is the peak of their thinking abilities.

>>14714704

You can go back and forth arguing whether a photo of a tree is CGI or real. It is not possible to prove it to someone that believes space does not exist and shoves any kind of evidence away. It's like showing a picture of a penguin to someone, and they start sperging out about penguins not being real. You won't bother going to Antarctica with them to prove they're real

The evidence boils down to:
>We sent a probe there
>We got photos back
>Here are the photos

If you are so far gone and paranoid that you just go "NUH UH" at everything, then there is no point in arguing because you may as well be a fucking child

>>14714722
>>We sent a probe there
>>We got photos back
You, personally?

>>14714707
>still waiting on a real photo of jupiter

There is no real photo of Jupiter to you, you fucking retard. Anything that will be posted will be dismissed by you as CGI

>>14714723

I have observed Jupiter with my amateur telescope. The photos we got sent back are that but closer and with much higher detail. You being a paranoid schizo is none of my concern

Let's say the dome is real and close to us then. Wouldn't it be even easier to get a quick photo of those dots in the sky? Nasa could just send a helicopter up there and take a quick photo and claim it's a planet billions of miles away, no?

>>14714722
digital images are easily faked, you're pretending that you forgot that for the sake of making a dishonest argument. given that you aren't able to come up with an honest response, it seems you are either wrong, ignorant or too low iq to participate in science discussion without resorting to dishonesty.

>>14714702
funny how all of the "i fucking love science" crowd are manchildren

>>14714725
>There is no real photo of Jupiter to you, you fucking retard.
checkmate

>>14714713

if you believe that every other planet is round and going around the sun, but we are le special, then I do not know what to tell you, man.

>atheists are incapable of creativity

In your worldview, they created an entire infinite dimension all around Earth with an infinite number of stars, planets, and some quite creative other objects, and they have been able to lie about it for quite a while.

>>14714732

Glad to know that you do not actually interact with anybody irl and get your stereotypes from subreddits and 4chinz

>>14714735
>In your worldview, they created an entire infinite dimension all around Earth with an infinite number of stars, planets, and some quite creative other objects, and they have been able to lie about it for quite a while.
they're not atheists but rather satanists

I've been wondering

How are supernovas explained by flat earthers? Y'know, the fucking bright lights/explosions that have been recorded like 6 times throughout history. Did God just decide to make a few of the dots go boom for the lulz?

Also, are Nebulas and galaxies just fancy permanent colorful dome clouds? Or works of art like paintings?

I see stars explained as holes in the dome, or just painted on it, but other space objects don't really get talked about much

Atheists do not believe in anything, they will temporarily adopt any belief for the sake of perceived short term personal gain and then cast it off later. A-theists believe in nothing, they have no core values, so they feel free to tell lie after lie. If you believe in nothing, there is no difference between lies and truth.

>>14714741
oh i have thank you

>>14714751

Imagine seeing life like this lmao get a fucking grip bro

>>14714751
True. Most atheists don't even believe in atheism!

>>14714744
angels

>>14714707
retards can't even prounounce "whilst"

>>14714332
The diameter of the external fuel tanks on the space shuttle is 27.6 feet though.
That "bolt" is a 2.5 inches in diameter, and made out of Inconel 718.
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19810005630
page 7.
undoubtedly stronger than the highest grade available on this site.
https://eicac.co.uk/Bolt-Ulimate-Strength-Calculator
but you can get a rough idea for how strong it is.
The highest grade they allow shows it coming in at around 3.1 million foot pounds.
https://www.nasa.gov/centers/marshall/about/star/et_11.html
Of course, the tanks are actually solid rockets that lift the shuttle as well, so in reality the bolt most likely only had to support the weight of the orbital itself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_orbiter
~250k lbs
so not only is this completely mundane, but you're a hyper-dotard for even comparing F1 to the god damn space shuttle.
t- machinist.

I genuinely feel bad for the parents of all the faggot flat earthers itt. All 3 of them

>>14714776
very sweet of you

>>14714611

>bro space is le fake. There is no proof of it existing you sheep. Fucking cgi cartoon marvel i love heckin science redditors lmao
>OH MY HECKIN CHUNGUS ARE THOSE HECKIN FRICKIN HIDDEN CONTINENTS BEHIND THE ICE WALL WITH QUIRKY UTOPIAN CIVILIZATIONS??? ZOMG LOOK AT THIS OLD JAPANESE MAP???? BRO THE GOVERNMENT MUST BE HIDING CONTINENTS FROM US OMGG

>>14714846
Haha.

>>14714626
We do.
I don't like the governments / corps dragging their feet on it but I also understand why they do. It's hard and expensive and initially there will be little in terms of immediate returns.

>>14714646
Landing a couple of guys to plant a flag and play golf is a bit smaller in scope than establishing a permanent base let alone a full scale colony with resource extraction.
I don't doubt the current space agencies could simply remake the 60s/70s missions if they wanted to but what would be the point?

>>14714611

>>14714864
Haha.

>>14714855
>>14714860
How many years would it take of no space travel progression before you'd start getting suspicious?

>>14714497
just pack the Schizos into the first Starship and have it "land" on the moon.
We could really pack them in as there is no need for a return trip nor for food and water.

>>14714890

2 more weeks and I may get irritated bruv. I may even have to intervene, so to speak..

>>14714890
Depends on what observational data we have on how long it takes on average for civilizations to become space colonizing.

Show me a single piece of evidence that all the photos of other planets are cgi

Do not ask me to prove they are not. You do not ask a person to prove that a photo of a pond is real. YOU tell me why those photos are cgi without bitching about your feefees and how they dont look real to you

>>14714890
>How many years would it take of no space travel progression before you'd start getting suspicious?
you mean how many more years. we're already into the 5th decade. nobody posting on this board has ever witnessed progress, its as dead and gone as dodo birds

>>14714921
A photo of something may be "real" or forged. There is really no way to know for certain. Therefore, a photo can't be used as evidence of anything.

Shit thread. I hate sharing this board with you faggots

>>14714929
Well we do have a launch system that can send people to orbit where every stage is fully reusable, bringing the cost of sending shit to space to a fraction of what it was. (The SpaceX rocket)
Even Virgin Galactic's shitty suborbital space plane piggy-backing on another plane is something we used to not have until recently even if it has limited utility.
No it's not great progress so far but it would be wrong to say there's been NO progress. And the next steps by SpaceX could turn out to be very interesting.

>>14709800

>>14709800
Saturn V

>>14714864
me on the bottom

>>14714932
that shadow is made with light bouncing off the firmament

>>14714930
Photos can be used as evidence retard.
holy fuck kill yourself.

>>14715106
>Photos can be used as evidence retard.
Evidence of what?

>>14714382
airbound dust and hairs and such accumulate on the air vents which is why they have to vacuum the air filters regularly.

Never have people ever been as dogmatic, close-minded, and intolerant as scientists, as you can see in this thread.

They insult, make fun of, then report anybody that does not follow their cult.
Worst of all, they are hypocrites who hate religion yet embody the worst aspects of any cult that ever existed.
When you make the big, absurd claim that the Earth is a spinning ball that we are not supposed to notice, you better bring solid proof, not ideas, assumptions, theories, CGI. Things that come from the mind of men can never embody reality. You thus need a big, arrogant, prideful, smug ego(see scientists and intellectuals) in order to even dare claim that you "understand the laws of the universe".

https://thephilosophytakeaway.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-source-of-meaning-by-kevin-solway.html

This thread...

>>14715297
Simply because you are homosexual pedophiles.
Only the most stupid and ignorant would believe the flat earth bullshit.
You use this to lure in gullible and easily manipulated young men who you groom for sexual abuse.
The solid proof of spherical Earth has been provided many times. But you are not interested in facts or truth. You are only interested in sodomy.

>>14709800
they've been flying to the moon wayyyy before that lol that was just a show for the public

>>14715319
Reminder: Scientists, academics, bankers and politicians(aka overeducated) are often pedophiles.
So round earthers are far more likely to be pedophiles than flat earthers.
In addition to this, flat earthers are more likely to be religious, so less likely to be homo and pedos(Christ forbade christians to harm children, and being homo goes against the will of God who wants for men and women to love each other)

>>14714165
>• No explanation as to why we can only see 59% of the total surface area of the moon when, from a flat earth perspective we should be able to see most of it, including the dark side of the moon.
Tbh, flat earth people should also believe the moon is flat and that is why we can't see this dark side. They can't choose what is flat and what is not.

>>14714414
This is the only valid argument in all this thread.

>>14714332
>use single bolt on wheels
>can't understand using a single bolt on critical joints
What did he mean by this?

>>14714434
Kek, this guy needs to play some KSP and learn about orbital periods. It's takes fuck all Delta-V to change your orbital period enough that you are on a certain side several days after the burn and the more time you have between the burn and the comet the less fuel it takes.

>>14715297

Literally the only thing you retard children can do is repeat the same claims over and over and ignore any evidence by calling it cgi or faked. There is NO arguing with you, because you are mentally ill. All conspiracy schizos are like this, and I sure as hell bet you believe all of them

As for your le image, it proves flat earthers once again don't understand the scale of the universe. You also love using that shocking image of everything flying through space because SPEED AND SIZE IS LE SCARY I DONT UNDERSTAND AAAAA AAAAA WHY DONT WE FALL OFF AAAA

I sometimes think that maybe you guys came up with something new or original, but no. It's the same fucking stuff. Every. Single. Time. In every single fucking "Ball-killing" video on youtube or else where. Every single fucking time it's the same fucking childish arguments because your ego is too fucking huge and you are too fucking dense to just admit you do not understand physics and basic science, so you make the claim that you are smarter than the millions of people that dedicated their lives to advancing our species. You're a retard suspectible to con man actors at best. A parasite at worst.
You fall for grifters that try to sell you epic books about flat earth and muh hidden ice wall civilizations and whatnot. Documentaries like The Next Level are completely laughable ramblings. With the production value I thought that would finally be the EPIC VIDEO TO PUT THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN OF THE GLOBEEART, but no. It's the same fucking toddler arguments that boil down to "UHM I DONT UNDERSTAND THAT. IT MUST BE FAKED. OHHEMMMGEEE EVERY PROOF IS CGI WE ARE SO LE OPRESSED BY EBIL ROUND EARTH SATANISTS LMAO HERE IS HOW LE WALL CIVILIZATIONS ARE REAL BECAUSE THIS ONE ANCIENT MAP SAYS SO"

tldr, you love feeling special. You did not uncover some dark hidden plot. You're a fucking failure at life trying to find some meaning in it.Your fate is being ridiculed and hated by your children for being such a failure.

>>14715342

Lmao that did not stop all the priests from raping little boys

>>14716007
Sure thing soi boy, believe media outlets propaganda, bankers, politicians are not pedophiles, priests are!

>>14716143

Going outside would help your mental health, anon. Please go have a beer at a pub or something, man.. Go exercise or something. If you ever manage to get a girl in bed with you and make children with her, your children will ridicule you for being a retard schizo, and then will hate you because you embarrass them around their friends with your ramblings. Your potential wife will either be as retarded as you, or will leave you.

It's not too late to drop this autistic lifestyle where you believe everything is against you and you are le oppressed. I assume you are not a child, which makes it even sadder that you use terms like soiboy with a serious face. Priests are very much pedophiles. So are many politicians. Fortunately, the normalfags that you hate so much also know this. The world is not as it is in your insane delusional strawman boogeyman version of it

People that make images like the one you posted do not interact with anybody irl. They have never seen or talked to a gay person, or a leftist, a jew. If they did, they would realize all their schizo conspiracies about them are false. Of course you can continue to lie to yourself by posting photos of le insane ugly people

>>14716190
Priests are not pedophiles, try again soi boy.
Atheists, academics and scientists, on the other hand...

>>14714368
retarded caption.. its called a CGI visualization for normies of uninteresting numerical telemetry data translated into pretty pictures which show what happened behind that datastream