/sci/ - Science & Math

>>14674473
>Work on the N1 began in 1965
What the fuckkkkkkkkkkkk how did the Soviets procrastinate so bad?

Ugh....

musk is finished

>>14674489

You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like.

>>14674496
Mirin’ his traps and shoulder width tho

>>14674489
He's got the Finnish tan

>>14674496
ass

>>14674496
show his ribcage
>>14674503
there it is

>>14674496
>>14674503
Good sign. Means he spends his time inside working. Or wears always wears SPF 1000 sunscreen.

Is Tom mueller gay?

>>14674486
Kruschev refused to fund the project since it had little military use and he only did right before he hot ousted in 1964. The Soviet didn't care much about the Moon in the first place and gave a petty amount of resources and time to Korolev.

>>14674513
He's not gay. He has relationships with women, and sex with men.

>>14674473
FTS Archive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=sharing

>>14674503
Big chungus, what an absolute unit

rolling for amount of tiles that are going to fall off

>>14674496

>>14674508
Same energy

>>14674524
Better start lifting weights, Finnanon or you're the bottom in the heterosexual /sfg/ bathroom meetup.

>>14674536
last how many digits?

>>14674540

>>14674536
Zero

>>14674536
-1

>>14674545
don't bully or threaten Finnanon even in jest

>>14674536
All of them, like a confetti cannon

>>14674536
10

>>14674508
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

>>14674566

>>14674536
S24 will make it

>>14674575
Make what?

So why does he look like that? HGH?

>>14674585
its because of nerve gas

>>14674536
Flight next week

>>14674496
>>14674503
>>14674537
lol at fatty Elon

>doing really well starting off in KSP realism overhaul career
>get 3000km downrange milestone in 1952 (requires ~6000m/s deltaV)
>impulsively accept both the big satellite milestone contracts for big downpayment
>don't realise they expire in three years
>i will have to get a satellite to orbit by 1955 (sputnik was 1957)
>this would be ok, except that i also need to research geiger muller counters to fulfil the science satellite contract
>this will also take about three years, and in the meantime i can't research any new rocket engines
>i'm basically stuck with the slightly improved Russian A-4 engines and the total vehicle can't weigh more than 60 tons

Real explorer 1 hours.

>>14674562
What if I make it romantic? A trail of stamps leading into the stall, a bottle of tesla tequila on the toilet paper holder. He will not refuse.

>>14674612
Aerobee second stage is your salvation. Good luck. I just restarted my career for like the eight time lol

>>14674618
>tesla tequila
Make it scotch or nothing

>>14674624
>>14674612
Also it’s funny how art imitates life.

>12K watching
what the fuck

https://youtu.be/TjGLnqtbjvo

>>14674644
We are going.

>>14674644
I’m watching lol

>>14674524
7 New stamps, USSR, 1978-1991
Finally found Interkosmos stamps showing the rare late cooperation with USSR and western European countries. One that I'm not even sure might exist is a stamp of Soyuz TM-11 with the first Japanese astronaut Toyohiro Akiyama.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PNSqNdTewF-MM7FSioItOVvIP5wtGxnR?usp=sharing

>>14674644
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjGLnqtbjvo

Stay frosty

>>14674503
You think he wants to escape to Mars because the sun is so much less intense there?

>>14674664
Soon I might have all of the Soyuz mission stamps.

these commentators make me want to kill myself
>verification not required

>He hasn't seen 5th Element
SAD!

>Coming up next issue of AviationWeek: ULA modifies plan for Vulcan rocket BE-4 recovery--drops helicopter, will let engines, surrounded by inflatable aeroshell decelerator, splash down in ocean. "It turns out the decelerator makes an excellent raft,” says Tory Bruno.

HA HA TIME FOR TILE SHEDDING

>>14674503
I bet he could scream very loud.

>>14674715
Snake

>>14674724
Liquid Snake

>>14674714
I wonder if that stupid vtuber thing anon always links is any better, nothing could be worse than this.

The commentary are YIKES inducing

>>14674763
The ESL guy thinks he's funny and the other guy hates his guts for it.

>>14674714
Why would you listen to the commentary?
https://youtu.be/mhJRzQsLZGg

>my CEO used the sugarcoat phrase word for word today
uuuuhhhh newspacebros???

>>14674496
>>14674503
look at how long shadows the nips cast

>>14674699
His skeleton would expand to its full size with the lower gravity.

>>14674782
When the memes bleed into reality, cosmic events usually follow. Divergence soon

wtf, they have already tied their annual launch record

>>14674807
Please come back Falcon Heavy

Engine chill vent

boom very soon

>>14674825
Lotsa venting. Probably incoming test

wtf is a spin prime test? what's next? pre-burner?

>>14674831
explosion

>>14674831
They start spinning the pumps up to speed but don't run them.

>>14674813
Still have three planned

Light this candle, fuck the FAA

>>14674831
Spin prime is just pumping fuel/propellent to engine just without ignition, so just oxygen/methane just pours down the engine

Excluding random spark

labpadre has thermal camera
https://youtu.be/nbBeoReu12E

so frosty its whiter than elon

>>14674841
sounds pretty wasteful

Another delay at NASA
>NASA Replans CLPS Delivery of VIPER to 2024 to Reduce Risk
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-replans-clps-delivery-of-viper-to-2024-to-reduce-risk

>>14674850
Everything gets delayed

>>14674850
jesus christ

it's over

No booms

Wow so 6 engines seems fine. I wonder if SpaceX can spin prime Boosters in engine clusters of five or six at a time

preburner manana

>"The energy needed for transfer between planetary orbits, or delta-v, is lowest at intervals fixed by the synodic period. For Earth–Mars trips, the period is every 26 months (2 years, 2 months), so missions are typically planned to coincide with one of these launch periods. Due to the eccentricity of Mars's orbit, the energy needed in the low-energy periods varies on roughly a 15-year cycle[4] with the easiest periods needing only half the energy of the peaks.[5] In the 20th century, a minimum existed in the 1969 and 1971 launch periods and another low in 1986 and 1988, then the cycle repeated.[4] The next low-energy launch period occurs in 2033.[6]"

So anons we get a deltaV minimum in 2033 - 2035. What we launching?

I passed the Karman line in KSP and I think the game glitched because I suddenly gained 30 science and 250,000 funds despite being in hard mode.
Should I restart my career because this seems like a glitch? Or just roll with it? Yeah

>>14674900
me

>>14674850
Not my boy VIPER.
>>14674920
I think you can manually remove science points and funds from your save file. I wouldn't bother, but then again I'm a notorious KSP save scummer.

>>14674933
Yeah I randomly got the “passed 89.5 km” award dozens of times holy shit

>>14674503
Not even that fat, he has chest of a fucking hulk, chad genes. If he hit the gym even 1 day per week he'll beat 99% of gymcels

Is this the rocket that goes up and then lands back down right side up?

I saw video of that months ago, looked really cool, have they done more launches of that one? Have it pretty down pat on lock?

The other recent rocket tests were for different rockets?

mmmmmm roggs

>>14674952
b8

Is there any theories about what type of interesting materials may be under the surface of Mars? Why is earth so various and Mars seems so bland and boring? Could there be lots of interesting materials under the surface?

>>14674970
Just about ever mineral Earth has, Mars has it as well. So its pretty similar imo.

>>14674952
you must be talking about Blue Origin's New Shepard. If you liked that just wait for their new rocket that is coming out this year, it's called New Glenn and it's even bigger and way more powerful.

>>14674970
Hopefully there are plenty of nitrogen containing minerals so that you could create a nitrogen atmosphere.

>>14674964
No I'm serious that one looked crazy, like fake it was amazing. How many times they succesfully do it and how many times failed.

The recent error they didn't even try to launch it, just doing experiment tests right.

But the reusable shot up .and then freakishly balencing landing back down is incredible.

thats a huge vent

>>14674715
I love Tory :) very practocal solution unlike elon scam fraud muskfuck

>>14674988

>>14674979
>>14674986
What would the result of nitrogen atmospshere do? Let plants absorb it and grow and release oxygen?

How hard would it be to send a fleet of these reusable rockets (would they be very hard to land on Mars, or you pretty much have to do the mini parachuted lander technique) each having multiple massive robotic drills and stuff.

Can probes go over the surface and scan to detect signatures of what might be underneath? Find interesting sites and start digging?

The surface of Mars is wrapping paper and it's time for Christmas.

I want to see if there's diamond caverns, if theres oil, if there's life forms, if there's gold, if there's rare minerals, I theres never before seen patches of oddities

september seems likely for an orbital launch but why is 39A's launch tower going so slowly

>>14675002
Did it stick the landing can't really see. And does it get roughed up a bit but that's expected.

How many times did they successfully launch and land these? What's the batting average

How much do they weigh and is the landing fully automated? We are truly truly living in the future and that statement will only continue to become more shockingly true

>>14674970
>Why is earth so various
Earth is far more dynamic than nearly-dead Mars and life plays a big role in its geology

>>14675024
No idea desu. The segments are more complete though compared to Boca.

>>14675054
Earther (derogatory)

>>14675092
Rust Sucking Stick Insect (derogatory)

>>14674970
Benefits of continents and oceanic and atmospheric erosion

>>14675102
That's a moon wizard

>>14675108
He was born on hellas planitia

>>14675102
both planets are absolute shit
t. a mercurychad

>>14675122
shut the fuck up, bootleg lunarian. Your planet will NEVER be colonized, it'll be mined away to build O'Neill stations

>>14675102
Lmaoing at terran manlet.
All that gravity and you still cant lift

>>14674546
8

>>14674505
Who's the hotty?

>>14674644
NSF commentary makes me want to die

>>14675137
his name is Elon Musk

>>14674503
>>14674537
where were these images taken ?

>>14674496
I thought he didn't have a yacht

>>14675129
>Your planet will NEVER be colonized, it'll be mined away to build O'Neill stations
Many, many, many such cases

>>14675129
>he fell for the o'neill meme
Give my regards to your puppet master.

>>14675171
>mercurian calling O'Neill a meme
rich

>>14674644
we're back

>>14675150
It's a charter yacht or the yacht of one of his friends.

>>14675175
the boys are back
(the boys are back)

>>14675189
wenher posting is so comfy lmao

>>14675175
...Wehrmacht begins with a "v" sound.

So Ship 24 is almost ready for flight, right? They just need to static fire the engines, fix the tiles, and it’s good to go?
I’m curious how fast the return of Booster 7 will go though

JWST already looked at Trappist. No idea when the results come out though

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/sidearmslug.php#moawomwaiavsaootm
>If instead of firing horzontally you fired it at a 45° angle to the surface, it would impact about 318 miles away, and have a maximum altitude of 79 miles.
You could have shot down the Apollo CSM in LLO with a rifle

>>14675102
Earthers will not survive orbital bombardment

Twenty fucking times, and I still cannot post. Any way around this? I'm not whoring out to Gookmoot.

>>14675247
Trappist what

>DeSantis, whose name is frequently bandied about as a presidential contender, said he’s more focused on the gubernatorial election in 2022, but seemed to appreciate the gesture.

>“With Elon Musk, what I would say, is I welcome support from African Americans, what can I say?” the conservative leader replied.

Looks like Florida is the future not Texas

>>14675260
no filthy gravity well dwellers will

>>14675247
is it actual pics or are we getting joke data like the first exoplanet they looked at

>>14675247
Every red midge in the galaxy should be farmed for resourced. Useless stars

>>14675263
>too poor to support the website that he uses everyday

>>14675266
After Trump’s dig at Elon there is no way in hell I’m voting Republican if DeSantis isn’t the candidate in 2024. Trump can go to hell
>Elon didn’t endorse me reeeeeee!!!!!! Rockets to nowhere!!!!!

>>14675260
I want to like Zubrin but it seems like all he does is bitch about how much better his ideas are. I have never heard of this guy actually doing anything besides making speeches

>>14675281
>voting
ngmi

>>14675271
Just data but they can tell atmosphere compositions. If an oxygen atmosphere is found it means life is likely, and eventually colonization somehow.

>>14675283
No one really can unilaterally direct spaceflight development. Sure, most of his ideas haven't really been tried, but is that his fault? What should he have done instead?

>>14675122
>Mercury
>Shitty 3:2 spin resonance makes only makes the polar regions easily habitable

Good location for a sci-fi story, a colony that must constantly move around ~11 km/s to avoid falling into its shadow, either in train or a sandcrawer. It would be like Snowpiercer, fuck you Andy Weir.

>>14675285
no pics = no care

>>14675283
>NSWR
>Dipole Drive
>Piss Paint
Wew, lad.

>>14675283
Zubrin invented magnetic sailing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Zubrin

Cyllindrical space colonies are based and I'm tired of letting them go unmentioned. Bezos has a point when it comes to this.
Fuck this captcha btw.

>>14675283
Zubrin has great ideas but he sadly lacked the resources to do anything. At least his ISRU talk inspired Elon

>>14674473
you are paid shill

>>14675283
>all he does is bitch about how much better his ideas are
So... just like /sfg/?

>>14675285
>if a system doesn't have a habitable planet its useless
cuck attitude, we will MAKE lebensraum

>>14675311
He's literally me fr fr no cap

>>14675285
Oxygen could also be from heavy UV rays which red dwarves like TRAPPIST 1 are notorious for pumping out. Hopefully there's plentiful ozone that way it doesn't cook off all of its water

>>14675314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSsWkooeIds

The bountiful high frontier is waiting for us.

>>14675304
I do it for free.

>>14675332
>gets hit by 0.9c asteroid with mass of the moon
nothing personnel space traveler

>>14675339
bad news for whoever sent it; the swarm avenges injury

>>14675298
Okay the bots checking for spam are fucking retatded, does anyone know how to reformat?

>>14675350
The energy lost after that would be 1000x worse than EU sanctions tanking russian gas for themselfs, you'll end up eating bugs with no light in your little space cage

>>14675290
>~11 km/s
Kek, I meant km/h but apparently its close to 4 km/h to travel the circumference.

>>14675354
Pay it up piggie

>>14675298
I hate to admit it because it’s from first hand experience but the captcha is mobile filter

>>14675298
You call that a colony? THIS is a colony

>>14675359
It would take ~2e31 J to accelerate the moon to near light speed. The sun puts that out over the course of an hour. Perfectly doable for an annoyed Type II.

So Starship is operational as soon as it deploys Starlinks right?

>>14675359
Its over Planetkin, we have the high ground

Rotating stations
https://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/48b5f0c332fcc
O'Neill Cylinder
https://orionsarm.com/eg-article/475a0f16edaa8
McKendree cylinder
https://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/48473a892041c

I'd post more, but it won't submit. After reading these things, I really can't think of a better staging ground for interplanetary transport, given our current level of technology, but even this, I think is a stretch.

>>14675371
Diemos doesn't look half bad; this game could seriously stand for a remake, but given what I have heard about Destiny and its masochistic playerbase, I'm not sure Bungie would be up to the task.

>>14675366
Running on PC, Brave browser might be the issue here.

I'd dump links from Orion's Arm but it registers as spam.

>>14675404
Never mind, I'm just retarded. forgot the picture for the post too.

>>14675296
Which based on the Bussard ramjet and work by Dana Andrews. Most of Zubrin's ideas are memes.

>>14675291
Better get to work on a gigascope or send hubble to 500 au or else that shit aint happenin

I wish i could have a space gf and kiss her, rest along side her looking to the curved oneillian horizon, and think how based i am

Starship is an O’Neil cylinder

>For the genetic health of the colony each couple must let the woman be fertilized by frozen semen from Earth as well as by her husband
Planet Of The Cucks

>>14675404
4chan hates links, specially if they are long-ish strings of numbers and lettters. This is an anti-spam feature that bothers us with posting links with those awful hash names.

>>14675241
do you really think a bunch of mentally ill leftist zealots would care about other cultures and languages?

>>14675431
O'Neil cylinders are spaceplanes

Berserkchads...
https://youtu.be/rrA6WgagAos

>>14675450
Sweet dreams Muira

Lmao this is chaotic

Still a long way for Miura . They are testing Miura 1 , which is suborbital , then in a couple of years , Miura 5 , orbital and very close to Electron . But by the time they fly M5 , Rocket Lab will be far ahead of development of their Newton , far better . Im quite pessimistic for this little company

Dumping cool scifi stations I found on Deviantart. Made sure they were within the realm of possibility.

>>14675462
What the fuck are they doing lol. I thought astronauts were above blatant political shilling.

>>14675463
It’s alright. They’re a spanish private company, and one of the first native European startups to do anything at all

>>14675462
an ocean away, yet we're not so different from the russians, it seems.

>>14675462
>this is what they waste their payload mass on

>>14675467
Implying they have a choice lol. Probably threatens with ruining their careers and put them in prison if they don't obey.

>>14675462
>right side
I thought communismbros hated religion?

>>14675462
There is a say. Every house in the Balkans has a Virgin Mary picture . Russia is the same

Miura T- 1:20 sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kycgq_P9cjI

>>14675450
T-1 minute

>>14675462
Based commies making Amerifats seethe

Any media that involves/takes place on a rotating colony world, besides Gundam, Rama, Expanse, Orion's Arm, or Babylon 5?

It's such an unexplored setting, and a tragedy that it's not used more often.

>abort

Abort :(

Not surprising , they build everything from the ground up . They are still too new

>no Clear stream
:'(

Laser Powered Interstellar Ramjet
https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2012/07/24/a-laser-powered-interstellar-ramjet/

If only Russians cared about building Yenisei as much as they do with decorating their side of the ISS

>>14675491

Anon, board in , lets go to Alpha Centauri

>>14675507
Fusion can get you to 10% light speed. 40 years to Alpha Centauri, 400 to TRAPPIST. I wonder if removing someone’s brain and placing it into an artificial body which nanomachines to slow aging would allow “normal” people to go to the stars desu

>>14675476
It’s confusing. Communist russia was atheist but modern russia is extremely orthodox. In practice or in name only I cannot tell. Orthodoxy is cringe either wY

>>14675485
Most of the stations in Elite Dangerous rotate. There are also a few ancient colony ships in the regions close to civilization that are hidden away easter eggs.

I FUCKING LOVE ROTATING COLONIES
I FUCKING LOVE SPINNING
I LOVE THE GRAVITRON
UNEXPLAINED ARTIFICAL GRAVITY IS CRINGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1sr6aVzW9M

>>14675514
Communist Russia was anti religion but you can’t kill an ideology by outlawing it.

>>14675513
ISS Venture Star uses antimatter engines . They accelerate up to 0.7C

>>14675513
>40 years
really doesnt sound that bad, but you gotta wonder about the engine durability and wet mass

>>14675463
Miura 5 is going have a rough time, but the suborbital market is something that most people competently overlook. A reuseable and hopefully quite cheap sounding rocket could do enough business to be worth the attempt.

>>14675491
It's more likely because Spain is in the middle of a heat wave and the temperatures are testing their ability to keep the LOX adequately cryogenic.

>>14675523
ISV VentureStar is a fictional ship from a movie. It has a realistic design but antimatter drives are legitimately beyond our current tech by a lot, even more than nuclear fusion

>>14675525
It’s not too bad. I wonder how a ship survives for 400-1000 years

Do you guys see the Alpha Centauri system (more exactly Proxima Centauri star) as a Mars type of goal ? Mars has such a hype because its the closest more or less "habitable" planet (Venus is closer but is a hell hole). Still the little planet has enourmous levels of radiation and only 0.36g of gravity . But the hype is still there.

I see Proxima Centauri as Mars . Maybe and just maybe Proxima has a rocky planet , with some atmosphere , with livable surface gravity BUT , blasted constinously by solar flares , radiation and other harms . Still , in the far future , this will probably be our first destination.

>>14675485
Post more pls

>>14675507
I fucking love this thing. Hope we see some more of it in the upcoming movie. They really should focus on the technology more, but spotlighting this among the ocean ecosystem would be alright.

can you believe Cameron wants to stretch this series out over the Pandora's biomes, its orbiting gas giant, and the other moons? At this point, he might as well make it a 2 hour long speculative evolution/colonization series and drop the Pocahontas/Dances with Wolves plot. God knows we need some spackino.

>>14675550
Yep. But by the time we go interstellar I’m sure we already will have colonized various airless wastelands in our own solar system, to the point that it won’t matter anymore if Alpha Centauri has a habitable planet or not

>>14675552
Can do, fren.
Pick up this book as well, it's where all of those nasapunk artpieces come from as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_High_Frontier:_Human_Colonies_in_Space
It's by Gerard O'Neill, the physics professor behind the structure of the same name wrote it, so it's straight from the source.

Here's a video featuring Him and Issac Asimov on the concept in further detail:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM88sUBTTRM

Why does /pol/ keep spamming threads about JWST being damaged? Didn't that happen like a month ago?

>>14675587
/pol/ is retarded. Also it’s irritating how 95% of threads on the /Sci/ catalog are either political bait or people bragging about IQ, or just schizo stuff

>>14675519
Post the real image.

Seems they're testing the ship again. Voonts going off.

Can't forget the classics. I'm gonna take a breather, don't want to tap into the previous thread's images too much.

Someone should really aproach musk about mass drivers on the moon, it would contribute to his goal of being king of Mars.

>>14675579
Thank you anon

>>14675550
I would get laughed at for having this take in the real world but I am genuinely certain we could get humans to the closest nearby solar systems well within my lifetime if the world continues to focus on developing spaceflight technologies and not politics and "safety"

I remain hopeful but the truth is that we will most likely not get there within a reasonable timeframe. People have to care about going to other stars in order to get there, and look how hard it is to get the average person to care about fucking MARS. And that is not even a politician

>>14675601
This is too much

>>14675610
They actually did something so now they should have to take their scheduled 2 weeks off. What do they think they're doing being productive with Starship at Starbase?

>>14675608
Im sorry anon , but interestellar its still a couple centuries away . Maybe 2169 (200th aniversary of Apollo 11) .

Elon timeframe for Mars boots on the ground is 2029-2034 . NASA timeframe is more pessimistic (2040s) .

Im happy with that . Maybe Titan by the late 60s , such a cool moon

>>14675620
Musk is spending too much time in the hot tub

>>14675606
Would mass drivers be viable on Mars? It’s atmosphere may or may not be a problem.

>>14675635
>Musk is spending too much time in the hot tub
He needs it to soothe his aching 50 pound rib cage, don't be so hard on him

>>14675633
1) I think it’s very likely we see a town of at least 1,000 - 10,000 people on Mars before anyone goes near the outer planets

2) It’s possible tech advances enough to the point where you and I may live hundreds of years.

>Hop in, Musk
>Take a load off
>Mars? That can wait

>>14675638
in 150 years, sure. Even with the lower gravity and thin atmosphere, it would have to be very long to launch people.

What’s a good nickname for a trainer plane in my KSP career. So far it’s 1953

>>14675674
the fuckpoop mk69 stinky ass edition

>>14675638
I was talking about the moon, but I think It could work. Hell space elevators would probably work there as well.
https://www.halopedia.org/Mass_driver (this was my reference, did you know the warthog's tires are carbon nanotube?)

I haven't finished The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, but from what I have read so far, it's used to deliver cargo to low lunar orbit to save on fuel. Heinlein studied at West Point for electrical engineering, so I assume he knew what he was saying when writing this.

What sort of drugs will be the first used on Mars and in space? What will be the first drugs cultivated or synthesized? What would be a popular recreational drug amongst Martians?

>>14675688
Iodine

>>14675688
Weed

>>14675633
Anon you replied to. I expect Mars first human landing by 2026. Titan human landing in 2037-ish. Reaching Centurai in 2089 if all goes well. I think the crucial miscalculation people make is they predict based on NASA's past metrics. What makes the evolution of newspace entirely different is

>speed of the spacecraft technological evolution is not dependent on sparse allocation of government funding this time
>no need to wait for safety approval, if Jared wants to fly on a Starship nobody can legally stop him from sending himself to Ceres if he wanted to
>instantaneous full reusability
>refueling at destinations
>majority of parts self-produced, no 400 worldwide company delays
>no software-not-working-please-abort-entire-mission autism

These companies will need to rely on the government for technologies that move spacecraft at a decent percentage of lightspeed which is what I am primarily worried about. Everything else is mostly guys telling you "we won't let you do that yet" and that will vanish as soon as we get off this fucking rock where we are forced to suck regulation cock before doing anything remotely interesting

>>14675505
Every time I see a photo of a MOC I'm reminded that fucking nobody uses consoles anymore, it's all shitty prefab tables and monitor arms

WHERE'S MY AESTHETICS ELON

Musk, show us the mockups of the interior NOW

>>14675720
>Orbit in two weeks
>Still no designs for interior, ISRU or power

>>14675599
checked

>>14675697
Dragonfly gets to Titan in 2034 with no delays, meaning a manned mission would already have to be en-route before it lands. Rovers will have been on Mars for three decades before humans, so why would anyone go to Titan while knowing almost nothing about it

>>14674496
>>14674503
EnoughMuskSpam is having a field day with these pics
https://old.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/w2dl70/i_am_the_alpha_in_this_relationship/
https://old.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/w2c1di/bleached_male_elon_musk_needs_to_work_out_and_get/

>>14675736
>enoughmuskspam
>spams elon musk

>>14674970
I was wondering the same about the moon. I think it has to have a shit ton of metals under the surface/crust. a mining operation could give us enough metals for a big lunar construction, as long we have the energy and technology to refine them
>>14675736
the retard twitter spammer has devolved into the r3ddit cumswallower spammer. fuck sake.

>unlock ion propulsion in KSP
>immediately regret it
electric propulsion is a meme in an engine where you can't burn for weeks straight

>>14675728
Lol

>>14675760
Electric engines are fucking fantastic if you have nothing but time on your hands, which is perfect for something like KSP where you can time shift. Quit being a retard

>James webb telescope is kill already
Lmao lol

>>14675736
These cultists think about Musk more than Christians think about God

SpaceX vs Blue Origin.

>>14675760
How ion propulsion works in space? dont you need oxigen to work? or is the oxygen the fuel in this case.

>>14675771
Now compare their net worth

>>14675720
This has been my favorite so far. It is so cozy

https://starship.mobile.my3ideas.com/#help

>>14675733
>it will launch with no delays
>arrival 2034
NASA has to jerk themselves off until 2027 before they even start to launch THE ROCKET. Then it will dance around the inner planets several times for gravity assists because the Atlas V has ass for delta V. There is so opportunity to cut off time it is not even funny.

>rovers will have been on Mars for three decades before humans
In that same span of time we went from Hitler invading Poland to people walking on the moon. This is not a measure of how fast things will go but how slow things have been lately. You're thinking in oldspace timeframes still

>>14675781
>It is so cozy
It's extremely cringe

Kiwi launch delayed from Thursday to TBA

>>14675783
I don't care if the seat placement doesn't make physical sense it looks cooler than any other rendition and looking cool is the only thing that really matters

>>14675780
>muh net worth
Incels are so funny

>>14675792
>sex sex sex sex sex sex sex sex

>>14675787
New Tron is going to be a disappointment I can already feel it in me bones

>>14675797
>Not reusable
>2024 (2025) debut
>”The Last Rocket Peter Beck Will Design”
Agreed

>>14675802
2028 debut

>>14675807
unironically though

>>14675765
Maybe if ksp had x50 and x100 physical time warp

>>14675807
>>14675809
Also
>Shilling hyper expensive carbon fiber
When Starship switched away from CF, everyone agreed it was a good idea. But when RocketLab talks about why CF is better than stainless, everyone sucks their cocks

>>14675816
I like rocket lab but beck’s reasonings for why they are going with it is so fucking stupid

Mission of 10 at once massive drills, sent to 10 scouted locations on Mars to drill 100s of feet beneath the surface, all automated and supervised by robots rovers and ai, within 10 years.

Also, bio materials experiments;

Inflatable pools, covered and uncovered, greenhouses, full of various biological materials, cells, gels, liquids, lipids, DNA, microbes, plants, insects, compost stews,

Is 10 years for these missions too soon? The aim will be 15-20 then.


Is there technology (like whatever is used to scan surface to see if their might be oil underneath, phonon spectroscopy?) That has scaned the surface of Mars and these asteroids and moons to determine if there's anything interesting under neath?

>>14675820
uhhh
Iron?

>>14675792
How many kids does Bezosfeld have again?

>>14674503
that man's ribcage is fucking gigantic
comprehend the lung capacity

For your consideration:
Starship's first Mars mission should be a bulldozer. The Mars Bulldozer Rover (MBR) would be a heavy duty, all-terrain vehicle inspired by industrial earth-moving equipment. It would prioritize ruggedness, durability, and multi-mission functionality. A 5-ton MBR could be used to grade and flatten a larger landing area for follow-on missions and clear space for solar panel deployment. It could be used to dig shallow trenches for future missions to place covered living modules. It could also accomplish scientific goals by cutting long grooves in various soil types and inspecting the visible strata revealed using its basic navigation cameras. The industrial size and scale of the MBR would make it inherently more resilient, and its broad functionality would allow it to remain a valuable piece of surface hardware that can support future missions. It can leverage modern AI technologies to minimize the amount of human input needed, and because it's solidly constructed the tolerance for self-driving can be greater.
In conclusion, send bulldozers to Mars.

>>14675781
it's a nice artist rendering

>>14675783
basically:
>no fun allowed

>>14675820
>Is there technology (like whatever is used to scan surface to see if their might be oil underneath, phonon spectroscopy?) That has scaned the surface of Mars and these asteroids and moons to determine if there's anything interesting under neath?
I always thought the easiest and cheapest way to build a base on mars was just to land on top of a martian lava tube and drill through its ceiling. Put down a ladder, string up some lights, weld a closeable hatch into the opening, done.

This "spend a week 3D printing martian regolith into an igloo" shit will never become a thing, mark my words. Takes too much complex planning and resources. At least in the beginning

>>14675831
Doesn't even need to be a lava tube actually. Isn't most of mars a dry lakebed? Surely there were some streams that at some point cut into the underground just like we have on Earth

>>14675827
How are you gonna power the bull dozer?

>>14675831
Unnecessarily complex. Once we're past the Starship phase, a dedicated lander can have its segments buried by a Mars backhoe, make a groove for the exits that grade upwards out of the pit. A phase 3 settlement would be in caves but moving regolith there is relatively simple and provides significant reduction in radiation and insulation.

Bros... how is Elon planning on fitting into a space suit?

>>14675825
Incel is a state of being not one of fathering children. Especially if those children are IVF

>>14675853
His own skin serves as a space suit, yep.. thats right, elon is an ayy and the proof is his abnormal ribcage

>>14675853
elon will be dead before the next moon landing

>>14675847
>>14675827
not the same anon who mentions the bulldozer, but similar idea. It would be easier to have your segments able to support dirt above than to drill into caves, assuming we have a rapidly reusable heavy lift capable rocket

>>14675847
>just tip starship 2.0 over and cover it with dirt
But then you don't have an excuse to explore Mars's underground. You tried so hard not to become a mole rat martian that you ended up an even bigger mole rat martian.

>>14675855
>Elon is only cosplaying his favorite boss, the Godskin Noble

>>14675860
just build a glass dome and stick some anti-UV cream into it once a day
simple as

>>14674536
10,000

I'm visualizing all the planetary protection faggots having a stroke.

ISS is getting Starlink lel

>Once installed on the space station, ILLUMA-T will use laser communications to relay data to and from Earth via NASA’s Laser Communications Relay Demonstration (LCRD). Lasers offer missions higher data rates than traditional radio waves. That means more science and exploration data can be sent to Earth in a single transmission. The shift from radio frequency to laser communications is similar to switching from dial-up to high-speed internet.

>>14675879
Interesting

>>14675856
Wrong

>>14675879
Is it specified somewhere? If not, then its NASA spending couple millions to add this feature

I think SLS will have a launch failure

>>14675879
Literally not Starlink

Damn I wish I knew about this back when I was in college

>The global aerospace community focused on New Mexico as 149 teams from around the world participated in the Spaceport America Cup, the world’s largest intercollegiate rocket engineering conference and competition.

>The University of Sydney took home the top prize and as 1,500 students from 22 countries gathered in southern New Mexico to launch rockets to specific altitudes (10,000; 20,000; 30,000 feet).

>>14675887
Doesn’t matter, it already completed its primary objective of dishing out piggy pay to boomers and government leeches

>>14675879
That'll be one gorillion dollars, plus tip.

>>14674486
>>14674516
also the soviets didn't realize that we were serious about that whole moon landing thing until 1964 when serious work started on facilities. they thought it was just some face-saving bluster by kennedy because that's what their leadership would have done in the same circumstances.

>>14674900
200 starships

>>14674900
3 SLS’s

>>14674612
>this will also take about three years
oof. if you're trying to get to orbit that fast you need to be putting at least 60% of your points into R&D.
>>14674624
rd-103 + scud + xasr is unbeatable for cavemanning it

>>14675281
the orange man was always a retarded boomer
only reason it was vital to elect him was because everyone else was substantially worse
vote for a vain boomer, or a selection of actively hostile jew-owned oligarchs

>>14674920
i dunno about the science but could the funding just be from crewed altitude/speed records?

>>14675846
RTGs?

>>14674850
CLPS is turning into a disaster. the whole 21st century private contracting model may be overrated just because spacex has been singlehandedly bailing out programs that would've otherwise been shitshows.

Fun fact: the engine on the aerobee is the AJ10, which would eventually power the Apollo CSM, the shuttle OMS, and now the Orion Service Module

>>14675778
ion drives don't use combustion so they don't need an oxidizer

>>14675846
solar farm and battery pack. Time is our friend

>>14675972

>>14674900
your mom

>>14675846
Internal combustion engine, using boiloff from the Starship.

>>14674900
the entire human library of anime on blu-ray

>>14675985
my old hard drive is lighter and it reflects my 99th-percentile anime tastes. therefore i'm charging 5x the price of the entire human library of anime on blu-ray for it.

>>14675989
dont let the fbi find that
source: im fbi

>>14675950
Starship's first mission is gonna cost billions of dollars from NASA and wont be ready until 2050s? WUT


>>14675973
But I thought bulldozer was there to make the solar farm in the first place? Isn't that the first mission for?

>>14675982
So use whats left of fuel on Starship to power bull dozer for few days and thats it?

>>14675846
Options include methane ICE or (may Allah forgive me) electric batteries.
A Block 1 battery-powered bulldozer would be easier to engineer and could run off solar power generated by separate deployable solar panels. It would connect and charge during the day and then run it's battery down working during the night. Since you'll need deployable solar panels and rechargeable vehicles anyway, this gives practical experience with these technologies.
Block 2 would be methane ICE. Any industrialization pathfinder is going to want to test an ISRU methane/oxygen generator, as it will be necessary for refueling the Starship for return missions anyway. In terms of scale, the amount used by the bulldozer would be fairly minimal - any system that generates enough methane/oxygen to power a return flight will be making plenty to keep your bulldozer going too.
So first bulldozer is electric and sets up the solar panels, second one is methane and sets up the methane plant.

>>14675816
yeah but what if your rocket gets attacked by a rampaging i-beam during liftoff? carbon fiber's not such a meme now, huh?

>>14676008
I want neutron-chan to step on my balls :/

>>14676006
>set up solar farm to produce electricity for operation
>create methane
>burn it to run previously electric vehicles
The efficiency losses of using ICE are horrible here, just keep it all electric.

>>14675778
Ion engines use electricity to accelerate molecules through various methods rather than using combustion, so they don’t need oxidizer and are extremely efficient compared to any chemical engine, but are woefully slow and power hungry.

>>14675778
SpaceX/Musk has said in the past decade or so that a large ion drive is needed for future transport, he hinted it as something after Raptor engine.

>>14674496
>>14674503
Martians look like THIS?!

>>14675462
overcompensating for this cockup

>>14675674
Pudgie Budgie

>>14675462
>going full fucking religious insanity on the ISS
>NASA continues to maintain their relationship with Russia
What a political failure, jesus. Axiom taking literally fucking ever with their space station modules means that the entire world has to watch Russia make a mockery of the space station and America just letting Russia walk all over them because the converse is happening on the ground via proxy Ukraine.

The Artemis accords better have provisions in place to prevent shit like this from happening.

>>14675831
I mentioned the drills I was more talking about of there could be anything very interesting under the surface, like a random cave made of gold, or oil from the biome that lives on Mars 500 million years ago, or a lot of very rare earth elements

>>14675771
Jeff works out and rails his escort girlfriend, Elon doesn't work out and rails rockstars and neuralink CTOs. I dunno man, seems like Elon's winning this race as women seem to line up left and right to take his seed.

>>14676089
spaceflight?

>>14675674
planeus weanus

>>14675847
How is a constant supply of oxygen going to be provided in a mars base, I think that 3ill be a big challenge, but I geuss just as much as food. I geuss you will need like 50 rocket shipments full of oxygen tanks?

Or am I an idiot and oxygen can be recycled indefinitely by some filter system, indoor base, people bresthr out, as long as the base is full full full of plants they will certainly provide enough oxygen? You don't want to do all this and not be sure the filter or plants are working right

>>14676093
There's a lot of ice on Mars. Cracking it for oxygen is part of how they make methane to go home.

>>14676093
The entire planet is covered in perchlorate and iron oxide, you connect the dots

>>14675878
Finders keepers

The moon being devoid of carbon is fucking GAY

>>14676093
The carbon dioxide in the atmosphere can be stripped of an oxygen molecule to create carbon monoxide and a free oxygen. This process is currently being tested on Perseverance with the MOXIE module.

>>14676108
That will be 2000 acres of solar panels for a half tank of fuel sir thank you

>>14676113
haha fusion plant go brrrrrrrr

>>14676116
Oh will it help power your antimatter meme drive as well?

>>14676118
No, I'm talking about planetbound fusion only. Zap Energy is less than five years from net gain. It'll be ready for Mars.

>>14676093
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2008613117

Water electrolysis
Sabatier process
Perchlorate

Lots of different options

>>14676122
Marstards are always jumping to conclusions via gymnastics and hypotheticals. This is why you all fell for mars one

>>14676106
there's probably dry ice at the poles

>>14676013
It may well be that there's no advantage to methane ICE. I don't think we've made engines of this type that could be used on Mars, since they'd have to carry their own oxygen and have some means of dealing with the heat they generate. Like I said, battery-electric is probably the easiest to engineer, and we may decide that's the best to stick with long term.
The issue with batteries is specific energy (J/kg) and energy density (J/m^3). It's energy inefficient to convert electricity into methane and then methane into mechanical (+heat), but its hardware inefficient to bring a bulldozer that can only operate an hour or so each day before needing to recharge. Both the methane generator and the solar farm will be running anyway, and (initially at least) producing more energy than the bulldozer can use in either type of engine. So full-process energy efficiency might not be the metric to use. ICE would also have the advantage in applications that keep it away from the base station for more than a day (unless the engine itself proves to be extraordinarily inefficient).

Basically, I'm not guaranteeing that methane ICE will be practical, but I think a niche for it may exist. But electric, absolutely.

>>14676106
LH2 chads keep winning

>>14676099
>>14676100
Those system techniques are perfected? The mars base will be near enough ice? You are certain thers no other chemical in the ice that will make it hard to filter and poisonous if improperly filtered?

>>14676100
How you turn that into enough oxygen to gureentee last around the clock for year/s?

If you fill the base every square foot full of plants and trees could that ensure oxygen production? Also with bought tanks?

>>14676108
Do filters exist that strip the oxygen out of human breathe?

Like one side of the base is pumping in oxygen, the other side of base is sucking up, so by the time it gets to the other side it's hopefully mostly CO2, and a filter can turn it into oxygen and send it back around to pump in?

>>14676137
Water electrolysis is perfected, yes, you fucking retard.
>OMG WE MIGHT HAVE TO FILTER A CHEMICAL OUT OF WATER
Use reverse osmosis filters.

>>14676122
Fuze-Q generated its first neutrons. If Helion or Zap are successful, we could see DFDs in our lifetime.

https://nitter.net/energy_zap/status/1547694947112931329?cxt=HHwWgsCq9daWwvoqAAAA

>>14676133
Solar farm, with Robots that bring empty batteries to the solar farm to fill them up, to switch out if the bulldozer drains them. 1000s of batteries, there's no operating for just an hour,

>>14676152
Sounds like purgatory

>>14676152
Maybe. I mean, now we're arguing whether an engine that doesn't exist will be more or less efficient than a robotic battery resupply train that doesn't exist. Ultimately we won't know the answer until the engineers get involved. I'll be happy either way, though.

>>14676106
There's more carbon than hydrogen

>>14676185
based retard

steve jurvetson king

>>14675507
Literally still the most realistic Deep space exploration Space Ship concept ever made

>>14676164
I mean solar farm is crucial either way, if your gonna make it 100 yards may as well make it 200 yards, that's the first step, though will we need the bulldozer to make the solar field? Anyway if not, it will be charging batteries, robots can deffinitly lift batteries into slits near the solar farm, let them charge, remove them and stack them, over the course of a few months until the bulldozer gets there

>>14676237
What's that out Infront, if its shooting lazers into that wouldn't they reflect back into the ship and melt it

>>14676106
It isn't. That's a tired old meme. The moon will have all elements necessary in abundance for a self-sustaining civilization.

>>14676245
Those are its radiators, something most scifi really shouldn't neglect to portray, lest you want to cook from the inside out.

>>14676249
>Mars cucks hated him because he told them the truth

>>14676152
>>14676164
We could use a silica heat battery to power the thing's stirling generator. Charging one is as simple as leaving it in a solar concentrator for awhile and they're much simpler than lithium ion
https://newatlas.com/cct-silicon-energy-battery-thermal-energy-storage/59098/
How to engineer a replacable one for a vehicle, I don't know

Starship cant handle an itty bitty explosion on its butt. How the fuck is this going to Mars?

>>14676280
Explosions are not possible on Mars.

>>14676283
a-hem

>>14676280
they could redesign the engine section to handle explosion stresses but why bother when you can just not have explosions

>>14674850
First masten now this
Its fucking over CLPSbros...

>>14675462
Russia went full schizo after Maidan. I remember Donbas separatists using flags that were half Soviet, half Romanov.

>>14676290
they arent making any changes to the booster, just processes. it will happen again

>>14676292
It's not over, this is literally NASA acting on the OIG's recommendation that they vet this shit before launch. If Jeff and Tony delay the Peregrine launch it looks real bad for Griffin.

https://oig.nasa.gov/docs/IG-22-010.pdf
>For example, NASA recognizes the risks of failure are higher for commercial vendors performing their first lunar missions; therefore, for the initial CLPS task orders the Agency chose low-cost, non-critical payloads that could potentially provide value even if the missions failed or were not delivered when initially planned. In fact, of the first three CLPS task orders issued, one was canceled and two have been delayed beyond their planned 2021 delivery dates without significantly impacting NASA’s larger lunar exploration goals.

. . .

>Although Astrobotic personnel explained that Griffin’s development schedule is largely independent of its Peregrine mission, the Peregrine Lander—planned to launch in 2022—has multiple systems and subsystems that will also be used on Griffin. Therefore, any technical problems with these systems may adversely affect development of the Griffin Lander because Astrobotic would only have about a year, depending on the Peregrine launch date and start of lunar operations, to resolve the issues prior to NASA delivering VIPER for integration and launch. Furthermore, any failures during the Peregrine mission may lead to Griffin delays as NASA and Astrobotic investigate the failures and develop corrective actions.

>>14676304
>a process-derived mishap will not be prevented by a revision of process

>>14676312
Ever heard of airplanes? the correct process is to not fly them into the ground, yet that doesnt stop it from happening

>>14675846
>>14675950
You could never power something like that with RTGs, they're only ~100 watts each but ~4 W/kg. ISRU fuel has a large energy input. Battery electric is easiest.

>>14675815
There's a mod called Persistent Thrust that has the same effect.

>>14676268
Reading the article, it sounds like it has trouble scaling down for transport applications, but still very interesting.

>>14676242
The way I figured it, the bulldozer would grade and flatten the area for the solar farm. Depending on the design of the panels (and the latitude of the landing site), you could cut a slope of the correct angle for maximum irradiance rather than carrying a self-assembling metal frame. Then it would drag/carry the panels into position and unfold them.
This would only be the initial job, though. A bulldozer can be used simply as a forklift, carrying scientific pieces (weather stations, seismic detectors, etc) to the desired location. It could collect samples and bring them back to a geology module for deeper analysis. It could begin industrial applications like stockpiling different minerals for later refining, clearing a landing area, digging pits and berms for wind/radiation protection.
A bulldozer can do anything, and that's what makes it wonderful. Rather than a rover that does a bunch of different things badly and can never do anything else, build a vehicle that does one thing reliably well and people will think of a thousand more uses for it.

proxima b anon, i think i found out the first way we'll directly image the planet. the GMagAO-X instrument being built for the Giant Magellan Telescope should be capable of detecting reflected light. it wont be much, basically a speck, but a useful spec. this instrument wont require a transit to detect or observe spectra

starlinks were loaded into the pez dispenser today
https://twitter.com/CosmicalChief/status/1549213709469360128

>>14676460
i forgot to mention, you will probably have to wait until the 2030s. https://youtu.be/bDMZvSUJeck

>>14676460
>direct imaging of exoplanets
wtf I love NASA now

>>14676252
>>14676249
Damn, so is moon more desirable to live and experiment on than mars?

Apollo did the mission at night right, what's the moon like in the sun, also how come mars seems more appealing? Is it bexsuse all the footage in the light, and the homely rocks

>>14676280
It already had successful launches and touch down.

The explosion was from novel experimental testing?

If they wanted they could repeat the recipe of the succesful launch and land every time? Or easier said than done, slight human touches make big changes?

It is aweinspiring seeing the up close images of the assembly and engines and stuff
All the complex wiring and perfectly formed and attacked metal and nuts and bolts, to be responsible of making sure every square mm is perfect, epic stuff.

>>14676304
They are lust experimenting and tinkering with efficiencies? They found a way that works, but are exploring others that might? Breaking eggs for ommelettes?

>>14676404
Cool cool, I was jist thinking of how to solve the initial bulldozers energy needs, but I geuss 1,000 precharged batteries can be sent along with it, and it's robot rover buddy that changes it's battey packs.

I geuss I was also wondering if there's no way to save all that time and energy by finding a quite flat area to just start the solar farm on. That will be one of the major major decisions anyway, location location location where to exactly commit to putting the base/solar farm

>>14676551
They're testing the booster for the first time. The previous flights were just the upper stage, and while it could fly up and land successfully, it isn't able to make it to orbit alone. So it's more than just tinkering. If they stop now, they've failed: only the Starship+Super Heavy together is a true Mars rocket.

>>14676604
Ahh I see. But they are trying a novel technique, I remember someone said a unique mixture of gasses or technique or something?

Also someone said dig a hole under the base in another thread, did they do that and would that help? Or could that be worse if gases pooled down there and then eventually flowed back up?

Is the public privvy to the adjustments, and what's the consensus on what went wrong?

How many star skip bodies do they make it something did go wrong during a test flight and how expensive are they to make?

>>14676133
>only operate an hour or so each day before needing to recharge
You could just recharge multiple times a day. The Tesla Semi has fairly fast charging and a 500 kWh battery pack. That pack could easily power a dozer like the 161 kW Cat D6 XE. With battery electric only improving from the conditions on Mars namely the lower gravity and ICE picking up a number of key disadvantages, they may be more nonexistent than niche. It could only get so much power before it becomes a giant moving radiator, not the type of thing you'd want on a jobsite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0IgcYlLx1s
>>14676404
>bulldozer would grade and flatten the area for the solar farm
I think that's a weaker use case for it, out of the ones you listed. Solar panels on Mars will require very little structural support over uneven surfaces, perhaps the lightest option would be thin-film panels sent by the roll and deployed in a ^ tented fashion using strung wires and metal stakes as supports. A North-South orientation would provide more constant power and decrease battery storage requirements. The wires can be vibrated for the easy removal of most dust.

>>14676551
Making the mother of all launch vehicles, Jack.

>>14674496
The fuck? If he was sleeping I would seriously think that was the body of a bloating corpse

>>14675517
>sarcophacephalus

>>14676722
ok that's enough

https://twitter.com/zanyfen/status/1549125904298872833
https://twitter.com/zanyfen/status/1549125904298872833
https://twitter.com/zanyfen/status/1549125904298872833

>>14676769
jesus christ what the hell is that profile picture and where do you find those freaks?

>>14676773
cosmic penguin retweeted it

>>14676773

We are always talking about moon ice water . But what about uranium ? Palladium , gold , platinum , copper , rare elements ?

>>14676789
china picked two sites for it's future moon base. one is at the south pole for water. the other is on the near side and is located near resources.

>>14676824
how do they even know if there are resources and of what kind? some sort of radar?

>>14676779
Pleb
Look at this

>>14676718
>You could just recharge multiple times a day
Couldn't the dozer be made to have easily replaceable batteries to not have downtime waiting for recharge?

It should have multiple battery slots on it, but only requires a fraction or one at time, and have a robot rover that takes out the used battery and puts in a frsh one. The multiple slots are for if one dies and it doesn't want to wait to change, and also if the robot rover has a slip up while making a change

Did you guys see the strang object on the screen after fairing deploy?

the russian segment looks comfy

So is estronaut Raptor interview any good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ognWNFPWM0Y

>>14671211
>HOW IS VIRGIN STOCK HIGHER THAN ROCKETLAB AHHHHHHH
simply put, Virgin is a more valuable company. The market knows

>>14677010
Estronaut gets totally and forgets to ask technical questions

>>14676290
the booster wasnt damaged but the engines

>>14677095
Barrel mode

good morning sirs, is there testing today

>>14677121
There's a closure scheduled to start at 10 AM, so there's a good chance of it.

>>14676769
>>14676865
https://twitter.com/CyberDemonSucks/status/1549298575288442880
>uses meme arrows
>about the same time as this was posted
>unironic russian supporter
holy shit are orcs among us?

>>14677095

>>14677121
There's people staring at the tiles

did we ever even test spin gravity in orbit?

>>14677265
It's not that hard. The only thing that hasn't been tested is huge bearings and the construction methods needed.
The whole spin thing around, get effective gravity, make thing big enough to not feel dizzy is trivial.

>>14677262
Damn those tiles catch the sun very well

>>14677265
Yeah Gemini 12. I can barely find any information on it though.