/sci/ - Science & Math

Any Ohio bros here? The heat wave ass raped half of our state the other day.

>>14574798
Has weather ever not been weird? A year where everything was at the mean?

>>14574798
...Sometimes I can't even comprehend how stupid, how retarded, how head in your butt fucking retarded people are.
>In 10 years New York will be underwater!
>10 more years!
>Ha see? Nothing happened for 15 years that must mean the world is ending

What does weird even mean? I swear to god you fags find anything weird. If we had a year of zero anomalies, you fuckers would say we have a non-anomalous anomaly and deign to figure out how humans are causing this. Also you fuckers never admit when you're wrong.
>Climate prediction fails
>Oh it didn't fail because other climate prediction came true
It's impossible to prove you fuckers wrong when you predict every possible outcome and pretend the outcomes that don't occur was within your error bars or even worse never predicted at all.

>>14574829
>someone chosen to sensationalize and was wrong
>see it's all bullshit
>91 percent coral reef is stressed out
>brown people popping like popcorn in 50c environment
>higher average highs
>lower average lows
>increase in floods/tsunamis/tornados/forest fires
>nothing is happening
Okay chief, good luck.
>>14574836
All science is probabilities the fact that you don't understand that to the point where you reinforce your position with this notion is very telling of your current understanding of the world. It's shit.

>>14574856
Oh you wanna play. Let's play. Name three predictions made by climatologists in the past 15 years that were WRONG. For each individual wrong claim, what was the probability it was wrong? Have fun trying to substantiate your claim, but you and I both know you just talked out of your ass. Hence I expect you to just shut this down with some pithy, faggy insult.
>inb4 I insulted you first
Cry about it. I substantiated my argument first, then supplemented it with an insult. :')

>>14574864
No, I don't want to play with you. Reality will check you soon enough. As times goes on the aforementioned events will grow exponentially. Good luck with the cope.
> I substantiated my argument first, then supplemented it with an insult. :')
That's funny, you're literally playing checkers in a delusion you've created. The assumption that is wrong is that i am now going to join you in it.

>>14574882
I accept your concession. Better luck next time, faggot.

>>14574890
>being this desperate for a W
I am glad you get to experience winning, anon. Good job.

>>14574864
Sea lions are faggots and convince no one of their position. What are you even trying to accomplish? Make people with your position as hated as possible? How is that suppose to help anything?

>>14574798
Umm, mods? OP just admitted he's 15.

>>14574904
>I have no answer therefore I'll accuse my opponent of sealioning
Mighty convenient cope you got going on there nigger. Maybe next time don't write checks your ass can't cash, I.e. don't make shit up or you WILL get called out on it.

>>14575144
As I said, you're not fooling anyone with your plebbit aggression. This is a science board, not an up/down vote board. Try making rational arguments instead of resorting sending others on errands for you. You haven't convinced anyone of your position, but you have convinced us of your arrogance and assholishness. Surely that will change the world to be however you want it to be.
But hey, if you want to play that game, none of your posts have been published in peer reviewed journals, which means you are wrong. (Stupid, isn't it?)

>>14574798
Human caused climate change is real and that's a good thing. Convince as many people as you can that it's fake. We need a low trust society.

hmm

>>14574798
oh, look, another fucking climate change thread
everyone be wary of the bots

scientifically speaking, what are the odds climate activists are this wrong for this long?

>>14574798
welcome to year 50 of "it's so hot oooooh look at the scary graphs ooooooh the world will end in 10-20 years"

holy shit how the fuck can this conversation happen so many fucking tiems

All of you are going to be raped by climate refugees in the 2030's after wet bulb temperatures make their countries uninhabitable. This is already beginning to happen in India and it will continue to get worse every year.

>>14575786
Rich countries will just actually enforce borders. The only reason they aren't now is because the globohomo elite want cheap labor.

>>14575786
>wet bulb temperatures
w0t

>>14575770
The board isn't static. New people join, old people leave, conversations are repeated.

2016 elections ruined 4channel

>>14575808
nou

>>14575813
Why'd he do it?

>>14575804
Incorrect

>>14575807
Google it

>>14574836

I can't wait for the american state to centralize itself because you republicans have been destroying our country for far too long and are the cause of its erosion

>>14575826
i dont think i will lmao

>>14575851
Stay ignorant then. You really shouldn't be posting on /sci/.

>>14575864
neither should you if you just want to roll around in your own putrid puddle of self satisfaction cunt

>>14575867
Your ignorance is not my problem. Fix it or fuck off.

>>14574829
>...Sometimes I can't even comprehend how stupid, how retarded, how head in your butt fucking retarded people are.
It's propaganda, they can fill any bullshit in most of the people. Literally from new ice age to warming catastrophe and vice versa. NPCs will eat everything because they grasp nothing.
Now they changed the unspecific wording as "climate". So they can take any whether phenomena and blame it to that and they are right. Nothing else but the correct assessment of their consumers. If you looking for content, meaningful indications or such a thing as "science" you are lost. No such thing, Sorry. Media do not make the slightest effort to cover this up, simply because they know their clientele.

>>14575932
>Imagine being this retarded

>>14575932
>>Imagine being this retarded
as said, any bullshit. In (You) 2.

>>14575952
ESL retard detected

>heat waves getting worse every year
>perennial drought
Everything below the north of this continent is collapsing. Especially the West. I'm moving to Washington state. Fuck this shit.

>>14575804
>rich countries will just actually enforce borders.
Lol, lmao even. Sorry sweety, but this is a democracy and we heckin vote here. Whats that? Sorry 20 new people just came over the border to vote for every 1of your family members.

We don't need more of these threads. It's pretty well established that the climate cycle is responsible for >98% of any temperature shifts.

>>14577184
Sounds like you 'Believe in Science'® and that 'The Science is Settled'®.

>>14577187
That's correct. I'm a believer in the scientific process. It's virtually unanimously understood to be almost entirely cyclical and non human related among scientists who show their working and work independently of grants from big green tech.

>>14577167
>Believes rich countries are democracies

Cute.

>>14574798
Welcome to like year 2000 of "the end times are here, humanity will be punished for its sins"

>>14574864
>For each individual wrong claim, what was the probability it was wrong?
how would anyone analyze this? Go pick any prediction made by climatologists, whether right or wrong, and tell us the probability that it's wrong. Demonstrate that your game is playable.

>>14577977
Ding ding we have a winner. That's the fucking point. Follow the posts, I responded to this bullshit
>All science is probabilities the fact that you don't understand that to the point where you reinforce your position with this notion is very telling of your current understanding of the world. It's shit.
Which probabilities was this faggot talking about?

>>14575830
Be careful what you wish for, coming multipolar world might give it to you.

>>14578027
95% error bands

climate change is a fucking hoax and everyone knows it.

>>14574836
>>Climate prediction fails
Example?

>inb4 non-scientist or fringe crank

>>14575498
ftfy

>>14575932
>Literally from new ice age to warming catastrophe and vice versa.
Source?

>>14577184
>It's pretty well established that the climate cycle is responsible for >98% of any temperature shifts.
Which climate cycle is that?

>>14578446

>>14578448
The natural one that has been occurring for millions of years.

>>14574798
weird weather and climate change is a good thing, it balances things on earth and gives energy to your wind mill freaks

>>14578471
You mean the glacial-interglacial cycle? We had unreliability warming 10,000 years ago, so we should be slowly cooling. Instead we're warming on top of the interglacial warming, at a rate 25 times faster. Try again.

>>14578483
We have 10000 year old poster here, welcome the boomer everyone

>>14578488
Not an argument. Try again.

>>14575811
>not the 2014 /v/ gamergate flamewar
It was over the moment sargon started talking about 4chan on youtube

>>14578441
proof?

>>14575990
The 10 year megadrought hasn't been able to convince people that the climate is fucked or at the very least that we use too much water. I say fuck em, if people don't want to admit something is wrong let them die.

>>14578483
What is the mpemba effect and how does it relate to water and climate change?
Why are dark skinned people black, and light people light?
Because bodies are about 70% water
There is a lot of water on Earth too

>>14578544
Burden of proof is on you, you made the claim.

>>14578598
what claim

>>14578572
That doesn't answer my question. What natural cycle are you referring to?

>>14578600
See >>14575498

>>14578607
The one where the planet heats up and cools down regardless of humans (all climate change)

>>14578610
I do see it. What claim?

>>14578598
All the claims in my original image are trivial to verify. All of your claims are made up nonsense. For example,
>some politician [Al Gore] said this
Unequivocally wrong. See e.g.
>https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-climate-change/fact-check-al-gore-did-not-predict-ice-caps-melting-by-2013-but-misrepresented-data-idUSL1N2RV0K6
>Gore didn’t make this prediction himself but was citing findings from a climate researcher.
>Gore cited findings from climatologist Dr Wieslav Maslowski, a research professor at the Naval Postgraduate School
>In an interview with The Times published on Dec. 15, 2009 (here), Dr Maslowski said: “It’s unclear to me how this figure was arrived at. I would never try to estimate likelihood at anything as exact as this.”
Hmm, really? Really, Maslowski? Let's see what the science says. We see here a paper by Maslowski from January 2008.
>If this trend persists the Arctic Ocean will become ice--free by ~2013!
Huh? But he told the media he would never say that! What the hell is going on? Oh, yeah, him and his ilk lie all the fucking time, and morons like you eat it up. I'm putting more effort into this than you obviously will, so idk why i'm even bothering. Go back to shilling, dumb fuck.

>>14578652
Forgot the paper.
>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/37570375_When_will_Summer_Arctic_Sea_Ice_Disappear

>>14578572
>>14578607
>>14578631
>10,000 years ago – 57% of the world's habitable land was covered by forest. In the millennia since then a growing demand for agricultural land means we've lost one-third of global forests – an area twice the size of the United States

>>14578763
Meant to add that trees cool the planet

>>14578632
t. illiterate

>>14578770
so do freezers and fridges. humans have added millions of these devices to the ecosystem, offsetting the tree imbalancation.

>>14574798
summer: hot
winter: cold

not sure what's hard about that. if this ever changes be sure to let me know ok?

>>14578850
will do

>>14574798
>>14575990
20 years ago we were only allowed to shower twice a week because our state was expected to run out of water due to droughts and global warming by 2005. Didn't happen, mind you, though I'm expected to believe things are worse today because reasons.

>>14578899
Just finished my third shower of the day and I'm feeling fresh af. 20 mins a shower.
>First shower at 5 am before gym
>Finish working out, take a shower
>Gf coming over in 30 mins, take a shower
Got you covered broski, I'll cover all that water you saved.

>>14574836
the world you're looking for is non-falsifiable

>>14574836
Scientists are compulsive liars. Climate change is fake.

>>14578652
>>If this trend persists the Arctic Ocean will become ice--free by ~2013!
It didn't persist though? Arctic ice loss stalled for a while, and now it's still decreasing though at a relatively slower rate than the first decade of the 21st century.

>>14579153
>It didn't persist though?
That's the point, Sherlock. Did you ride the short bus?

>>14579164
Just because the trend stated IN THE PAPER didn't persist, doesn't mean warming and sea ice recession isn't still happening.

>>14579225
We got an idiot in the thread gents.

>>14579242
Ah yes, I will accept your concession, as backhanded and passive aggressive as it may be.

>>14578844
Found the existence of a room temperature iq user. Go back to second grade and get the fuck off the internet until you can write your name by yourself.

Did you really just assert the existence of cooling devices are supposed to cool the planet? E.g., refrigerators are extremely inefficient machines, in which efficiency is measured by how much heat it loses to the surrounding system. They work by pumping heat out of the container (the bottom vents), which means your room will actually start to warm up if you leave the refrigerator door open for long enough.

>>14578631
Why can't you tell me what cycle you're referring to? The climate is not magic, everything that occurs has specific causes. For example, the glacial- interglacial cycle over the past 2.5 million years is caused by changes in insolation due to variations in Earth's orbital parameters. Unfortunately, current warming is completely contrary to that cycle, in its timing, magnitude, and cause. So what cycle are you referring? You can't tell me, because you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>14578632
Every claim in the image you posted, which I corrected. You demand proof yet have none of your own. When you give proof for your claims, I will give proof of my correction.

>>14578652
All the claims in my corrected image are trivial to verify. All of your claims are made up nonsense. For example, see

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-climate-change/fact-check-al-gore-did-not-predict-ice-caps-melting-by-2013-but-misrepresented-data-idUSL1N2RV0K6

This says that Gore is the only one that said the Arctic would be ice free by 2013 (actually 2014 is the earliest possible date he claimed). No scientist said this, he misrepresented what they said.

>>If this trend persists the Arctic Ocean will become ice--free by ~2013!
This is an objectively true statement, not a prediction. If you draw a trend line from Arctic area ice loss over 1997-2004 then it reaches 0 by 2013.

>>14578763
That doesn't answer my question. What natural cycle are you referring to? If you want to change your answer and tell me it's not a cycle but has something to do with water or land use, let me know and I'll refute that too.

>>14578946
Go right ahead bro, with all the floods we've been having recently they should be paying me to run my taps all day

>>14574798
It's a hoax. The weather is basically the same, just in cycles.

>>14579693
>The weather is basically the same
Wrong.

>just in cycles.
What cycle?

>>14579719
Natural cycles. Zoom out.

>>14579725
>Natural cycles
Which cycles? Name them.

>Zoom out.
Good idea. This shows it's not part of the natural cycle. We should be cooling, not warming 25 times faster than the last interglacial warming. Thanks for confirming its not cyclical.

>>14579742
Zoom out. It's a natural cycle.

>>14579745
>Zoom out.
Thanks for again confirming it's not cyclical.

>It's a natural cycle.
What natural cycle? Name it.

>>14579755
Zoom out. It's a natural cycle.

>>14579760
Wrong again retard. Why did you lie about it being a natural cycle? You can't even tell me which cycle, so how do you know? Pure wishful thinking

>>14579769
Zoom out. It's a natural cycle of the earths climate, hot --> cold --> repeat.

>>14579783
That's what a cycle is, yes. You haven't named the cycle. There is nothing in millions of years that explains current warming. It's against the glacial-interglacial cycle. You got caught talking out of your ass.

>>14579871
You're wrong. There is no intergalactic cycle. The earth warms up and cools down. It's time to stop trolling and accept reality.

>>14575786
Isn't there families in the middle east that live in record breaking deserts for hundreds of years? We'll be fine, less third world slaves mean better wages.

>>14579875
>There is no intergalactic cycle.
???

The glacial- interglacial cycle is right here in front of your face >>14579755. You deny proven cycles and refer to one's you can't even name. Pathetic.

>The earth warms up and cools down.
The Earth isn't magic, it warms up and cools down for a reason. Currently it's warming due to CO2 emissions, not any cyclical cause. You already know this since you can't even name what cycle you're trying to pin out on. You're a liar.

>>14579891
>live in record breaking deserts for hundreds of years
Go do it, you'll be fine.

>>14579921
The earth heats up and cools down. Correlation of the current heating part of the natural cycle with a tiny amount of allegedly human associated carbon emissions is not indicative of causation.

>>14579928
>The earth heats up and cools down
That was never contested. You can do repeating it like a drone.

>Correlation of the current heating part of the natural cycle
There is no cycle with a heating part now. Try again.

>tiny amount of allegedly human associated carbon emissions
They're directly observed to be causing current warming. No correlation needed.

https://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/174407/

>>14579946
The planet is heating up now. You are an idiot.

>>14579956
>The planet is heating up now.
Where did I say anything to the contrary? What a moron. Every time you fail to name your made up cycle, you admit you lied.

>>14579971
So now that you've been caught in a lie, you admit it is heating up, as expected of the natural cycle.

>>14579977
>So now that you've been caught in a lie
What lie?

>you admit it is heating up
I never said anything to the contrary, so how am I "admitting" anything?

>as expected of the natural cycle.
Wrong, the natural cycle says we should be slowly cooling. See >>14579755

You again failed to name your made up cycle. Thanks for admitting you lied.

>>14579981
The only person lying here is you. I don't mind, it's fun catching you trying to deceive people. Fortunately your scientific illiteracy betrays you. This is easy for me.

Planet heats up ---> planet cools down ---> planet heats up ---> planet cools down --WE ARE HERE->

>>14579984
>The only person lying here is you
Where did I lie?

>Planet heats up ---> planet cools down ---> planet heats up ---> planet cools down --WE ARE HERE->
Objectively wrong. Interglacial warming occurred 10000 years ago so we should be cooling. See >>14579742
and >>14579755

You have nothing but boldface lies. Zero data, zero explanation, zero idea what you're talking about.

>>14579999
I'm not going to go through the thread and pull out your dozens of lies. We aren't cooling, we're warming. How are you not getting this?

>>14580003
>I'm not going to go through the thread and pull out your dozens of lies.
Right, because you can't even point to one. They don't exist.

>We aren't cooling, we're warming
Right, and according to the natural cycle we should be cooling. So current warming is not natural. Thanks for confirming this again.

>>14580010
We aren't cooling. We're warming. It's part of the natural cycle.

>>14580019
What cycle says we should be warming?

>>14580021
The cycle we're in now. Go outside, it's getting warmer every decade.

>>14580024
>The cycle we're in now.
A cycle we're in now is the interglacial- glacial cycle. It says we should be cooling. So you're going to have to be more specific and say what cycle you're referring to, or admit you have no clue what you're talking about. If you don't name the cycle, then we know it's the latter.

>>14580035
The current cycle of climate change that has been going on for billions of years. We've been over this.

>>14580052
>The current cycle of climate change that has been going on for billions of years.
Again you refuse to name what cycle you're talking about. A cycle that has been occurring for billions of years is the cycle of ice ages and greenhouse Earths, caused by continental drift opening and closing the flow of warm water to the poles. The continents haven't shifted significantly, so again that doesn't explain current warming. We've been over this.

>>14580108
Yes, the world is warming up naturally as you admitted to earlier. Soon it will cool down. That is how the cycle works.

>>14578488
retard

https://youtu.be/ztninkgZ0ws?t=10m

>>14580116
The Earth should be cooling down, as predicted by your [Model Name Here], but data shows that it is not. Instead it is increasingly warming up at an unnatural rate not consistant with the interglacial model.
How do you explain this?

>>14574882
Two more weeks!!! Two more years! Two more decai! Two more centuries!

You autistic global fear mongers are like magatards. Same energy

>>14575465
Well he convinced me. Eat shit, fearmonger

>>14574798
I for one welcome the climate change ice cap melt temperature increase turbo drought flood season nuclear apocalypse, it will kill all the goyim and leave me in peace to swim around my house like a fish.

>>14574829
even if you melt all the ice , the water level will rise only around 1.5 m

>>14579144
This

>>14580116
>Yes, the world is warming up naturally as you admitted to earlier
Where? You can't stop lying.

>Soon it will cool down
Why?

>That is how the cycle works.
Your imaginary cycle doesn't exist.

>>14579377
>>If this trend persists the Arctic Ocean will become ice--free by ~2013!
>This is an objectively true statement, not a prediction. If you draw a trend line from Arctic area ice loss over 1997-2004 then it reaches 0 by 2013.
This is the stupidest thing I've ever read on /sci/ in all my years, and I'm comparing this to retarded things like "deez nuts". You would 100% be the type of person filtered by a captcha that requires you to solve a trivial math question.

>>14580309
Source? Is more like 70 m

>>14580348
You didn't even contradict anything I said. Try again.

>>14580374
>if x, y will happen by time
>this is not a prediction
you're a clinical retard.

>>14580396
>if x, y will happen by time
>this is not a prediction
Correct, that's called a projection. A prediction would be "the Arctic will be ice-free by 2013." This is what was claimed in >>14575498 but no scientist said that.

>>14574798
Just wait for the 15 years of "two more weeks"
It's all so tiresome.

>projections aren't predictions
Based. now I can reject global warming as only a projection and any policies effected off such projection are political fear mongering. What kind of retards make policies off projections and not predictions?

>live in Florida
>due to climate change everything is underwater and 100 degrees so I constantly live in a jacuzzi
>thanks climate change!

>>14580432
>now I can reject global warming as only a projection
You're confused global warming is directly measured.

Also, where did I reject a projection just for being a projection? The projection itself was objectively correct. Only the condition was questionable. A projection is only as strong as its condition.

>>14580233
>>14580343
The world is warming up naturally.

>>14580445
stupid retards like you who subject themselves to keep rebuilding every year keep my HD stock flush with value

Climate alarmists are so tiring

>>14580769
>The world is warming up naturally.
Wrong, see >>14579946

>>14580831
Your point?

>>14581001
Flawed premise, corrupted data, clear bias, not reproducible, not valid, improper interpretation, correlation is not causation, does not account for extraneous factors and is accordingly worthless. Try again please.

>>14581006
>Flawed premise
How so?

>corrupted data
Proof?

>clear bias
What bias?

>not reproducible
LOL, it's clearly reproducible, they explain how.

>not valid
How so?

>improper interpretation
Where?

>correlation is not causation
What correlation did they claim is causation?

>correlation is not causation, does not account for extraneous factors
Which ones?

You didn't even read the paper.

>>14581004
Humans have a negligible effect on climate change and scientists are not to be trusted.

>>14575990
Are you from Cali? I am so fucking tired of God damn fucking commie locus coming up here. They're fucking everywhere, and everyone hates them.

>>14581008
I've explained all of your concerns, see >>14576412

>>14581018
>Humans have a negligible effect on climate change and scientists are not to be trusted.
Proof?

>>14581025
That's just you claiming you've explained your claims, not you explaining them. We both know you can't explain them because you've repeatedly failed to do so and can't even point to a prior post in which you did so. You didn't even read the paper and your claims are just baseless nonsense.

>>14581025
god damn this is embarrassing on your end dude

So much astroturf ITT

>>14581035
I suggest you read the thread.

>>14581060
Nowhere in this thread have you justified or evidenced any of your claims. You just keep asserting that you already have and saying "read the thread".

Wow, lots of interesting comments on here. I'll add my 2 cents as a climate expert. Cook's paper is a case study in scientific conformation bias. The studies he and others cite as confirmation of their claims are purposefully misread. Doran and Zimmerman's 2009 paper, for example, states 97% of the 77 climate scientists they asked said human activity is a contributing factor to changing global temperatures. Contributing and causing are two vastly different statements but are used interchangeably within the climate circle. When you search only for articles about "global warming" (the keyword he used in his search) why would you be surprised to find 97% of articles are about global warming, a political term, not a scientific one. This is analogous to being surprised that 97% of gender studies articles on the gender wage gap confirmed it existed despite an abundance of information that shows that it only exists as a national average and disappears completely when you dial into specific fields or compare like work history. It's bred into the field.

>>14581071
Since climate science is not an independent field but more of a mixing pot of other fields, the real consensus should be whether climate science studies are consistent with scientific findings of other overlapping fields. For example here, an astrophysicist doing research on sun spots and solar irradiance should conform with climate science. I use this specific example because there was an astrophysicist in Canada that found that his measurements of solar irradiance much more closely modeled and predicted global temperatures than the CO2 model. After publishing his research (which had nothing to do with climate change, he actually made the comment about his data being a better fit at a conference) he was protested and a petition was signed for his removal from the university he teaches at. Another example would be historical analysis. There have been several periods in our earth's history with significantly higher CO2 levels than now. Some were much warm and some were much cooler. Indeed, without the historical adjustment method (which is hilariously bad science btw... data set doesn't line up? Just alter historical data by a variable factor until it does) CO2 is an extremely poor measure of global temperature. Get the politics out of science. It should be telling that the leading global climate activist right now is a 16 yr old girl. Politicians and climate activists are trying to play with your emotions and labeling anyone who questions them as science deniers. It truly is an astonishing thing watching high school children scream "science denier" to PhDs with decades in their fields...

>>14581069
See >>14575810
Your concerns have been addressed.

>>14581082
Ok, I accept your concession then

>>14574798
It doesn't mean anything.

>>14581060
I did, you lied. I suggest you fuck off.

>>14581096
See >>14576888

>>14581098
I didn't lie. It's not my fault you lack the scientific skills to read complex topics.

>>14578488
Not him , but don’t be a faggot and insult instead give a proper response you dense fuck

>>14581101
Yes I know, I've already said I've accepted your concession.

>>14581163
>im stoopid
yeah we know

>>14581071
>When you search only for articles about "global warming"
He didn't, did you read the paper? He did a topic search for birth "global warming" and "global climate change."

>why would you be surprised to find 97% of articles are about global warming, a political term, not a scientific one.
How is global warming political and not scientific? You're not an expert at all.

Nothing you said refuted the paper. There is a clear consensus on climatology that AGW is real. Get over it.

>>14581074
>there was an astrophysicist in Canada that found that his measurements of solar irradiance much more closely modeled and predicted global temperatures than the CO2 model.
Who?

>Indeed, without the historical adjustment method
No such thing.

>CO2 is an extremely poor measure of global temperature
You're an idiot. Pic related.

>>14581106
>I didn't lie.
Then why can't you show where your explained got claims? You can't, because you lied. Every post you make confirms this.

>>14578441
>Global warming and rising sea levels will wipe entire nations off the map if not reversed by 2000!
so it was reversed?

>>14581322
Re-read his post. It's pretty clear.

>>14581358
Where does it say "Global warming and rising sea levels will wipe entire nations off the map by 2022 of not reversed by 2000?"

>>14581426
I did, it's not clear. It sounds like a made up story.

>>14581495
You're being ridiculous.

>>14581520
You're avoiding the question. It's a made up story.

>>14581757
Everyone can see it is YOU who is avoiding the topic at hand.

>>14575807
A metric of measuring both relative humidity and temperature. The dry bulb temperature is the normal temperature a thermometer reads and the wet bulb is the temperature the thermometer would read if the bulb (of the thermometer) were saturated with water. The lower the difference between the two, the higher the humidity. The difference can be converted to humidity with some math and information about water.

>>14581810
Where? I've responded to everything said to me. You're avoiding the question asked here >>14581322 because it's a made up story and you know it.

>>14582359
It's been answered.

>>14582362
Where? Your next post will fall to show it. Why did you lie?

Aren't there various creatures that thrive ONLY because of specific climates and weather conditions? Like even minute changes to just temperature can fuck up the entire mating season for some animals and completely throw the ecosystem out of whack and in some cases, cause irreversable damage to it. I don't know about you guys but Climate change is a little more than just "things are warmer/colder than usual" because it's those things that can kickstart some pretty disasterous consequences for our ecosystems. Stuff like ocean acidification are a pretty good example of how bad things can get if left unchecked.

>>14575811
Based.

>>14577187
Fuck off MIGAtard.

>>14575804
sadly not, western nations are run by sincere third-worldists

>>14582390
Scroll up

>>14582540
And as I predicted you failed to show it. Thanks for confirming you lied.

>>14580810
Lived in FL my whole life, never once had to rebuild my piece of shit home. I fact I don't know anybody who's had their home destroyed. I think you're thinking of CA with they're continuous conflagrations.

>>14582555
That's incorrect.

>>14582594
Then it should be easy for you to show where you answered the question. But you won't, because you never did.

>>14582803
Read the thread.

>>14582853
I did, that's how I know you lied.

>>14575481
Not even the supposedly collected data is trustworthy. They just slap a "correction" if it's not close enough to their model. At some point you just realize science is mostly just a sales pitch requiring slightly more intelligence than real estate or car dealership.

>>14582974
>They just slap a "correction" if it's not close enough to their model.
Proof?

Everyone in this thread is a virgin. Y'all gotta have some sex and stop bitching about my heckin climatinerinooo
>inb4 not argument
I rest my case.

>>14582981
https://podaac.jpl.nasa.gov/dataset/RECON_SEA_LEVEL_OST_L4_V1

Here you go

I wonder who benefits from claiming nothing is wrong?
I wonder who benefits from sounding the alarm?

>>14583126
>I wonder who benefits from claiming nothing is wrong?
Lots of people.
>I wonder who benefits from sounding the alarm?
Lots of people.

>>14583139
Truth or dare makes more money than checkers or chess apparently

>>14574923
sodomite

>>14574798
Shitposting aside, when I was young in 2000-2005, we used to have a snow cover for pretty much 3 months in the winter with a solid level of snow, every winter. SInce then, it's gradually gotten less and less and now it averages at around a month and the cover is shit. My birthday's in early February and I don't remember it being snowless even a single time before like 2010. Now, there have been 5 consecutive years of no snow on it and the temperature even reached 20C last year.

>>14583066
Where do you see corrections towards a model?

>>14581491
that's how you interpret the grammar? what's special about 2000?

>>14583510
>that's how you interpret the grammar?
No that's how YOU interpreted it since you think we should see nations wiped out already. It's referring to a point of no return after which warming already in the pipeline will cause sea level rise.

>>14583742
No, I interpreted it as
>Global warming and rising sea levels will wipe entire nations off the map by 2000 if not reversed

>>14583825
That's not what was said.

>>14574798
OMG WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE UNLESS YOU EAT BUGS AND BECOME A PEASANT GIVE KLAUS SWAB ABSOLUTE CONTROL AND BOW DOWN TO BLACK DICK IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO SAVE YOURSELVES

>>14582938
Incorrect

>>14583828
Correct, what was literally said was
>Global warming and rising sea levels will wipe entire nations off the map [if not reversed] by 2000
where the [if not reversed] was edited into the image

>>14583973
Then it should be easy for you to show where you answered the question. But you won't, because you never did.

>>14583985
Yes, because that's what the scientist actually said.

>>14574798
Yeah, it seems like the weather has been as unpredictable as the weather

also, hang yourself

>>14584018
You're being immature.

>>14584082
>the guy who does nothing but troll this thread is accusing others of being immature

>n = 15 years
Kek retard.

human-driven climate change conspiracy theorists are the educated equivalent of Q-tards and im not even sorry for saying it

>2019: two weeks til trump gets re-elected
>2020: two weeks to stop the steal
>2021: two weeks til trump is back in office
>2022: two weeks til durham arrests the deep state

>1970: ten years til global cooling is irreversible
>1980: ten years til global warming is irreversible
>2000: ten years til global warming is irreversible
>2010: ten years til climate change is irreversible

>>14584100
Grow up.

>>14584152
See >>14584100

>>14574798
Okay. Now prove the origin of this is anthropological.

>>14584147
>>global cooling
That was always a fringe opinion. See >>14578446


>>1980: ten years til global warming is irreversible
>>2000: ten years til global warming is irreversible
>>2010: ten years til climate change is irreversible
Sources?

>>14584100
He's not trolling. He's literally brain damaged and thinks he's convincing all le evil 4channers of how they're wrong. He's a delusional fucking grifter who doesn't realize all he's doing is making more and more people here deny his cult. It's funny when you think about it.

>>14584185
That our he is deliberately acting retarded to make deniers look bad.

>>14584157
See
>>14584152

>>14584199
See >>14584157

>>14584177
lurk more

>>14584190
He's doing the opposite. He makes deniers look like geniuses. Based on his posting habits he's not smart enough to do this intentionally.

>>14584232
The guy you replied to who was calling someone immature IS the delusional climate change believing redditoid schizo. Yes, he is retarded.

>>14584219
So no source. Why did you lie?

>>14584232
>He makes deniers look like geniuses.
How does making up a story about an anonymous Canadian scientist and then lying about having named him make deniers look like geniuses? Making up stories because you have no actual arguments against AGW makes deniers look retarded.

>>14584204
See
>>14583859

>>14584390
Not an argument. You again failed to answer the question. Thanks for admitting you lied.

>>14584373
To you, maybe. But what do you care? You're so stuck in your head, you fail to see how you radicalize others.

>>14584417
Scroll up.

>>14584468
LOL, pure projection.

>>14584469
To which post? You again failed to answer the question. Thanks for admitting you lied.

>>14585095
You're a moron. I know exactly how I radicalize others, like when I spread disinformation (not about climate change, nonce). You, on the other hand, are completely oblivious to how you radicalize people against climate change, which is fucking hilarious. By all means, don't stop on my account. See, when I post disinformation, I know what I'm doing. You, on the other hand, have no idea what you're doing and sway people into climate denialism with your toxic rhetoric. It's hard to believe you're not a troll trying to do it, honestly.

>>14585161
What toxic rhetoric?

>>14585098
Read the thread. I've answered your question.

>>14585187
Where? Which post? You can't tell me because you lied.

>>14585191
If you had read the thread you would know.

>>14585203
I read the thread, so I know you're lying. You can't tell me which post because it doesn't exist. Every time you fail to do so, you prove I'm right.

>>14585207
You clearly didn't read it very well.

>>14585222
Then prove it and link the post. Oh right, you can't. Liar.

>>14585225
Read the thread.

>>14585227
I did, that's how I know you lied.

>>14585233
No you didn't, no you don't.

>>14585236
I did, and every time you fail to link the post you prove that I'm right.

>>14585238
I'm not going to spoonfeed you. Your theory has been thoroughly debunked in this thread.

weather is the kind of choas that i feel is more managable than a bunch of niggers and kikes lying cheating stealing and killing on a whim.

>>14585246
>I'm not going to spoonfeed you
Because you literally can't.

>Your theory has been thoroughly debunked in this thread.
Where?

>>14585557
I can but I won't. Scroll up.

>>14574896
>>14574890
You're both faggots.

>>14582404
>be a unique bird species
>molded through millions of years of evolution for ultimate survival
>twitching your head constantly like a neurotic shizoid to avoid all potential threats
>navigate the globe with an internal magnetic field detector
>have exotic dances that expose your resilient and bold nature to females
>and then the ultimate predator comes forth to challenge your very existence
>...
>the air gets slightly warmer
>bird dies like a bitch

Why is /an/ like this?

>>14581023
It’s so true. Any plan to save Earth or the human race will have to deal with Californians

>>14579144
Terraforming is most definitely real, e*rther

>>14586110
No it isn't.

Ayo stop lying cuh aint no climate ain't changin.

>>14574836
Al Gore being a faggot doesn't mean CO2 stops absorbing infrared radiation anon

>>14585598
>I can
No you can't.

>Scroll up.
I already read the entire thread. You lied.

>>14586110
star trek isn't real
star wars isn't real
the moon landings never happened
the mars landings will never happen
you will never go to space
deal with it incel

My high school science teacher bet me $1k that florida would be gone by 2025. Only 3 more years, Mr. Young!

I have fond memories of reading his "97% of scientists can't be wrong" shirt while he stood next to the "truth isn't a democracy" poster.

>>14589358
>things that never happened

>>14589358
Mr. Young here. You must have been that weird smelly faggot, and you are remembering the bet wrong -- I bet you that Florida would experience record-breaking highs before 2025

the sun controls the weather not man

>>14585161
you have been brainwashed, simple as. why was there a mini ice age and an actual ice age and why did the world pull out of it? it's incredibly arrogant of you to claim others are wrong with no concrete data. just like saying banning guns will get rid of all violent crime. it's moronic to believe such wishy washy thing just because they fit your agenda, dr reddit thunberg

>>14589610
>the sun controls the weather not man
Proof?

>>14589589
ostrich mode

>>14589600
The real Mr. Young would consider browsing 4chan a sign of nazi beliefs lmao.

>>14589610
*G-d

>>14589661
LOL, you didn't even deny that you made it up.

>>14589673
What am I supposed to do, bring up the recording? There's no way to prove or disprove that for either of us.

>>14589689
Yeah, get in touch with your teacher and get him to confirm it. Why are you protesting? Because you know you're full of shit.

>>14589610
>sun CONTROLS weather
Sun is conscious?

>>14588168
Read the thread.