/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12692148
Just googled "fauchi thesis." I'm a mathgoy, so I can't comment on anything too technical, but everything seems legit:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2599911/

>>12692148
Let's not be retards, eh? He's clearly credentialed.

>>12692188
Yes, but when you look deeper, he took credit for other people's work.

>>12692148
Fauci is an OG genius in the field. Don't doubt papa Fauci.
He's so OG my attendings and med school professors used to read his shit.
He's so OG his name is on fucking Harrison's itself.
Papa Fauci for life.

>>12692148

>>12692148
They "earned" their credentials by being ruthless careerist scumbags. They have no qualms about peddling junk science to further their careers.

>>12692148
Which are you, OP?
>the typical 'in denial' faggot, who thinks none of this could possibly be real
>the typical 'conspiracy theorist' faggot, who thinks it's all a hoax to take away MUH FREEDUMS
>a paid foreign operative trying to convince people it's fake so the U.S. continues to be in disarray as long as possible
>a 'useful idiot', who thinks adversaries of the U.S. will somehow 'reward' you for helping their 'cause' when they bring down the U.S.
Which are you, OP? Because intelligent people realize all the stupid conspiracy theories and propaganda are just bullshit.

>>12692188
Fauci is probably the least likely to politicize anything in his field and least likely to allow himself to be compromised by politicians and their agendas.

>>12692806
>I don't see why people can't vote in person
—Fauci
So I'm inclined to agree.

>>12692798
I'm the third pretending to be the second but I've already won and am destroying your country's trust in science and intellectuals. You'll worship celebrities, memes, and youtubers while scorning scientists, doctors, engineers, and philosophers. Your society will continue to decline and it's so easy to exploit it.

>>12692818
Reported for illegal activity. Enjoy your HLS V& stupid faggot

>>12692818
this is honestly scary

Most of these big name figureheads are just administrative bureaucrats who don't know anything.

He has more qualifications than the political operatives with absolutely no medical qualifications telling you otherwise.

>>12692818
Wait, Igor? From third floor? Shit dude, looks like HR put us both on the same task. Have you talked with Avanka to see of they really need two of us running this shit?

>>12692806
How naive

>>12692798
>MUH FREEDUMS

So wanting to preserve liberty and freedom is a joke?

>>12693464
>ummm please wear a mask
>DON'T TWEAD ON ME MUH FWEEDOM MUH SECOND AMENDMENT MUH LIBERDEE

>>12693479
Umm, please stay home then? You don't want to get covid and you need no FWEEDUMS, right?

>>12693464
I think they actually openly admit it.

>>12692188
>45 honorary doctoral degrees
lmao

>>12692806
>.t /r/cnn

>>12693482
None of your FWEEDUMS are being taken away, schizo.

>>12693507
As said, stay home forever then, my FWEEDUMS-hating friend. You don't need the FWEEDUM of being able to go out. Someone may cough on you and you will be covided.

>florida: ditched lockdowns and masks
>new york: big on restrictions and mask
>isn't doing any better than florida
>in fact its total deaths are almost twice as bad

>>12693514
>cherrypicking: it's science now

>>12693510
See >>12693507

>>12693694
One example of a region which ditched masks/lockdowns and did not get any scary exponents/overwhelmed hospital/nonflattened curves/total extinction is enough. That's actually true for every country. The fact that said state is doing better than prisonlike regions is just a nice bonus.

>>12693708
No, you don't get it: I want you to stop having any FWEEDUMS because you hate them after all. Then if you will stay home 100% of the time, I will not give any covid to you, so I will do whatever I want. Fweedum isn't fwee, isn't it?

>>12693514

>>12692148
>Is there any evidence that all of the political pawn
sauce?

>>12693721
Must be why Sweden is doing so much better than surrounding countries.

>>12693510
Why would the government want to make you stay home forever?

>>12693785
No, I want (you) to stay home forever. That makes your chance to get/pass covid or any other disease to zero. Of course it hurts your freedom, but as we understood before, fweedums are not important, so nothing is lost.

>>12693774
Of course.

>>12693797
Now I'm not sure if you're also being sarcastic.

>>12693819
Let's see:
>One example of a region which ditched masks/lockdowns and did not get any scary exponents/overwhelmed hospital/nonflattened curves/total extinction is enough.
Sweden ditched it and got no spooky exponential overwhelming overflow. That's already enough to show that it is better than covid-prison countries.
As a nice bonus Sweden is far from being first in Europe by death rate. In fact it is somewhere in the middle.
As a very nice bonus its death rate isn't even breaking any records (in century, decades or even one decade). So it's literally a somewhat bad seasonal cold you will hardly notice without media/government campaign.

>>12693837
>One example
It's the norm everywhere, but you know that.
>So it's literally a somewhat bad seasonal cold you will hardly notice without media/government campaign.
No shit, that's Covid in general.

>>12693837
Imagine thinking covid is similar to the cold in any way. Since when did the common cold fill up ICU wards?

>>12693793
You didn't answer the question though

>>12693861
If no country got the promised overwhelmed hospitals/medical system crash, no matter if lockdowned hard or soft, then your "filling up" is either irrelevant small dip, or the rare failure of your local hospital/government.

>>12693870
First you show me its relation to the previous questions.

>>12693873
Why don’t you answer the question instead of moving your goalposts around?

>>12693879
It's you who moved your goalposts so much that it now looks like a new kind of sport. The fact that you fail to reach them even after that is a cozy bonus. The fact that I am showing you your mistakes even after that moving does not mean that it worked.

>>12692806
retard

>>12692798
Even bigger retard.
Actual sheep that thinks he's intellligent because his propaganda masters feed him with fake narratives to discredit actual skeptics.
Holy shit, is this being even human?

>>12692798
Where are you on the scale anon?

>>12693895
The fuck are you on about. How is covid comparable to the cold?

>>12693923
It is comparable to cold because, just like cold, it does not cause any plague-tier extinctions, medical system overload or even death rates breaking any records. It is also comparable to cold in a way that anti-covid measures are noticeably worse than both.

>>12693931
>It is comparable to cold because, just like cold, it does not cause any plague-tier extinctions
>plague-tier extinctions
Quite the goalpost.

>>12693958
Well, that's a goalpost which would somewhat justify all the dire anticovid measures. We are like ten goalposts behind it, none of them justify the said measures and they also keep moving.

>>12693966
That’s your extreme minority opinion.

>>12692148
Will those of you who aren't idiots just stop feeding these trolls?
It's the same thread over and over again. You won't convince them regardless of how many studies you show them.
Instead they produce more and more nonsensical theories like COVID is actually a parasite, all viruses are fake, and now Dr. Fauci, probably the most educated and intelligent infectious disease specialist in the US, had a fake degree.

>>12693987
Happily every next goalposts fails too, again and again, see >>12693837

>>12693990
Science now is basically Catholic church in 16th century.

>>12692798
Based. Glad at least some people on this board haven't fallen to the misinformation campaign.

>>12693987
God I fucking hate fags like this. They think their high and mighty Reddit community speaks for the world. Fuck off and die, unironically neck yourself you morbidly braindead trannie faggot.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372

>>12693837
Ah great, another episode of "anon cant put numbers into context" again

>>12694066
It's the way it is. Sorry it hurts you feelings.

>>12694066
We understand that some people are citing our Perspective article (published on April 1 at NEJM.org)1 as support for discrediting widespread masking. In truth, the intent of our article was to push for more masking, not less. It is apparent that many people with SARS-CoV-2 infection are asymptomatic or presymptomatic yet highly contagious and that these people account for a substantial fraction of all transmissions.2,3 Universal masking helps to prevent such people from spreading virus-laden secretions, whether they recognize that they are infected or not.4

We did state in the article that “wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection,” but as the rest of the paragraph makes clear, we intended this statement to apply to passing encounters in public spaces, not sustained interactions within closed environments. A growing body of research shows that the risk of SARS-CoV-2 transmission is strongly correlated with the duration and intensity of contact: the risk of transmission among household members can be as high as 40%, whereas the risk of transmission from less intense and less sustained encounters is below 5%.5-7 This finding is also borne out by recent research associating mask wearing with less transmission of SARS-CoV-2, particularly in closed settings.8 We therefore strongly support the calls of public health agencies for all people to wear masks when circumstances compel them to be within 6 ft of others for sustained periods.

>>12694077
They look the same in every context. All the doomsday prophecies about covid turned out to be false. Meanwhile the anti-covid measures did way more harm.

>>12694084
>political orders changed
>b-but we were joking

>>12694096
May God have mercy on liars like you.

>>12693990
Evidence isn't how anybody arrives at conspiracy theories, and it isn't how anybody leaves them either. The only way to get these people to change their views is for the media to do a 180, at which point they'd be compelled to do so as well.

>>12694105
Good, now you get that covidist scientists are shameless liars.

>>12694092
Compare Norway and Sweden. Similar countries in demographics, public health, and the covid measures have been quite similar, except for closing down when under the biggest spikes in infection.
As it stands, Norway has somewhat closer to 20 times less deaths.

>>12694119
Or when they or someone they love gets hospitalized with covid.

>>12694130
You keep repeating the same thing over and over.
Compare the two!
I won't because statistics and science are fake.
I won this argument.

>>12694119
No, it's covid-believers who believe anything media says. If media does 180 on something (like it did with covid), then any sane person will realize than media is mad or politically controlled. So it will consider it as noise afterwards.

>>12694144
Upvote!

>>12694130
Compare UK and Sweden. Similar countries in demographics, public health, but very different covid approaches. As a result UK has noticeably more deaths (which is still not much, but way more than Swedish numbers).

>>12694154
How the fuck is the UK and Sweden similar?

>>12694105
I seriously think the only way we can save america is rounding up these retards and just killing them wholesale. They have no desire to live in reality, and will continue to just shit up the country if left free and alive.

>>12694144
Covidists hate comparisons indeed.

>>12694154
>Similar countries
t. American who has never left his cul de sac

>>12694158
Or just ignore them. They thrive on attention. Just let them suck each other off until they grow tired and move onto the next thing like Biden is actually Q or whatever.

>>12694157
If you can show me some clear factor which has a huge influence on covid + both Sweden and Norway have it, but not UK, then I'll consider it. Otherwise it's vague "these countries have somewhat similar history, so I can cherrypick only them and ignore the rest".

>Be american
>Have 450,000 citizens die to easily preventable plague
>Get laughed at by China, Taiwan, South Korea, New Zealand and many more while your citizens drop like flies
>Still have the gall to call yourself the greatest country in the world
Go back.

>>12694132
Nah, they'll just decide that it's a completely different disease and that the hospital is lying.
>>12694146
Blindly believing everything Twitter says isn't cleverer than blindly believing everything the media says.
>If media does 180 on something (like it did with covid)
lol

>>12694158
But it's dutiful mask-wearers who die, right?

>>12694180
You are making less and less sense with every post. Did you skip your antipsychotic dose?

>>12694177

>>12694130
>except for closing down when under the biggest spikes in infection.
So... that's enough? Why then we have a lot of countries which are closed for months and still have loads of covid deaths?

>>12694185
>More Testing = More deaths

>>12694173
Kind of hard to ignore when they are storming one of the highest offices in the land to stop an election.

>>12694174
Are you trolling right now, or actually this stupid?

>>12694184
It's you who whines that covid deniers will all die from covid. When they show you that chance to die is minuscule, you immediately flip and start to dream about round-up killings.

>>12694193
No testing = no covid cases. Covid is defeated!
Vietnam is great, but what about Burundi?

>>12694200
Don't call me a troll. So much for the tolerant left.

>>12694202
I'm not the one who posted about rounding you all up.
Guess whatever disorder you have has really fucked up your cognition huh?

>>12694200
It's good that you completely lost it now. Is it because you were unable to find that magic factor which will make UK (France, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Czechia and so on) an unfair comparison. So your attempt at cherrypicking failed.

>>12694130
Compare our elderly care homes and come back to me. I'm not sure how norway is doing but I'm sure those oil niggers are much better off than us

>>12694215
Oh, so you are not that one anon who can't read, but another anon who can't read? What a relief.

>>12694198
At least they don't send covid patients to the nursing houses.

>>12694130
Norway is pretty lax on masks too. So it's proven that masks kill.

>>12694226
How was that bad when covid is barely real and not even deadly?

>>12694235
1)Proclaim covid danger
2)Cull the nursing homes inhabitants
3)Save money you spend on caring for them
4)Get money from covid funds
5)Get an excuse to imprison unrelated people
Flawless plan!

>>12694245
Don't forget 5g and vaccines

>>12694245
And the jews are behind it too?

>>12694250
Eric Andre is a new
Are you reveling your hand anon

>>12694248
A reminder that New York has 2337 covid deaths per million. That's more than every country in the world has. So if New York deaths are so funny to you, the rest must be even funnier.

>>12694250
I don't know, you answer me:
1)Is New York death level awful, or is it just meh?
2)Is it because of your /pol/ fetish, or because of the New York government?

>>12694256
It's a nothingburger

>>12694264
Congrats, then covid in every other country is a nothingburger too.

>>12694256
Lots of 5g and new there? Hmmm

>>12694272
Covid isn't even real

>>12694274
>>12694289
That's some good progress compared to the >>12694130

>>12693875
Okay retard

>>12694375
Took you quite a bit of thinking, right?

>>12694178
>Blindly believing everything Twitter says
Is it finally self-awareness?

>>12693482
Reminds me of a neighbor who had 4 trump flags on his house, and 10+ trump*pence signs on his lawn and a big sign in the middle of the lawn ones spewing some nonsense about taking his signs:

“Violate my 1st amendment right, meet my 2nd amendment right”

I hate this country

I have a plan:
a)All covid-truthers stay home for a few months
b)All covid-deniers roam free and die from covid
c)Covid-truthers leave their vaults and enjoy the covid-free life

>>12693479
>Don't wear a mask, you aren't skilled enough to
>Wear a mask!
>Wear a mask, but not at protests
>We lied when we said don't wear a mask earlier, it was to control demand so we could get limited supplies to essential workers
>Not wearing a mask is a sign of mental illness
>Why aren't you wearing two masks?
You are here
>Where is your vaccine card?
>Why aren't you wearing three masks
>Where's your WiFi anal swab sensor?
>Why didn't you eat those bugs!?
>Why aren't in your pod?!

>>12694479
>All covid-deniers roam free and die from covid
Even if every single covid-denier repeatedly got the meme virus, only an insignificant fraction of them would die. Hope your house is comfy.

>>12694494
>Even if every single covid-denier repeatedly got the meme virus, only an insignificant fraction of them would die.
They just wouldn't be able to smell or taste, may die when they can't detect a gas leak, have lung and heart problems that would burden the medical industry and that the taxpayers would end up paying for.

>>12694599
>may die when they can't detect a gas leak
Do you have a couple of gas leaks every week?

>>12694599
>taxpayers
Covidists don't want to to work, they want to stay home and gather neetbux. So they are not taxpayers, they are taxspenders.

>>12694614
Nope, but I've experienced a couple in my life. You haven't? Having a sense of smell and taste is pretty damn important for other things too, not to mention for quality of life. I now know several people who are severely depressed because they've been without smell or taste for more than three months. Hopefully it returns for them at some point, but who knows.

>>12694621
I've worked through the entire pandemic.

>>12694640
>I've worked through the entire pandemic.
Hopefully all that work was remote?

>>12694651
No, only the first three months. I'd rather be working remotely, but there's too much I can't do from home. We've been safe about it, several people have tested positive, but all happened outside of work and no spread at work, as far as I'm aware anyway.

>>12692818
unironically based.

>>12693514
>>florida: ditched lockdowns and masks
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-ne-nsf-judge-delays-ruling-rebekah-jones-computers-20210113-dmlv5aebjnc4deauytqcasj2de-story.html
>>new york: big on restrictions and mask
webum related

>>12695691
The irony is that the gym is saying they'll do what they want and won't pay the fines, while begging for donations so they can pay off the fines.

>>12692818
wtf

>>12692847
Take your meds

I'm curious as to see what his profile looked like in, say, 2018

>>12693694
>using two huge states is cherry picking.
Lmao what a retard

>>12695788
and yet they stay open. And theres nothing you can do about it and those people are happy. I love that people ignoring the "rules" get away with it and even if they get this Wuhan Flu, they recover from it and continue on with their lives while people lose their minds that they aren't arrested

>>12697509
>I love that people ignoring the "rules" get away with it
Well they've had all their money taken, so good for them, big success. By the way, the owner killed someone in a drunk driving accident. What a cool guy to support.

>>12692148
Well, we know how (((Levine))) moved up the ranks

>>12692775
>papa fauci

>>12699054
>he doesn't call papa fauci papa
>being disrespectful to your italian godfathers
ufa! basta
don't act like this or you will never be my goombah

>>12692148
this is stupid. credentials are on thing they can judge without talent or knowledge. they are primarily acquired with money and political power. it's a perfect criteria for mindless government drones to use.

instead of playing the credentials games, just show why he is wrong

>>12692148
Lolwut? Most people with any degrees just jump through hoops and political appointees are all based on just ramming through people that do whatever the person doing the appointing wants. I guess this has to still be spelled out.

>>12692188
Yes, which means nothing. Incorrigible idiots can obtain a laundry list of credentials.

>>12694158
>rounding up these retards and just killing them wholesale
the chance of you killing yourself are much higher though

>>12694158
>rounding up these retards and just killing them wholesale
the chance of you killing yourself is much higher though

>>12692770
Nigga like 90 percent of working in a research field is attaching your name to studies that you didn't do shit for. That's just how the game is played.

>>12692806

>>12692818
Based fuck amerisharts

>>12694158
>save america
only a retard would want to save this corporate controlled pozzed hellscape posing as a liberal democracy that spends more time trampling on liberty than anything.

>>12700163
>source is a youtube video of some quack saying dude trust me
yikes.