/sci/ - Science & Math

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>>12612633

>>12612658
fuck fuck boing urf

Definitely going to miss Big Jim

I hope North Korea colonizes space

>>12612633
FUCKING SN9 FLY ALREADY
NEED MORE KINO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIyKS_9tP08

Methalox Star Raker could have worked without needing to jettison landing gear.

>>12612633
SLS looking better and better by the day.

>>12612718
>horizon is flat
Checkmate

>>12612633
Is SNINE fucked, can't do a propper brap test

>>12609823
>China’s Falcon 9 clone
What's the Chinese Falcon 9 clone?

>>12612888
the Chinese Falcon 9 clone is the Chinese Falcon 9 clone

Anyone got some kino images of SN8's bellyflop? Trying to find a clear picture that's just before the flip manuever.

Space colonization will cause human speciation and cultural isolation, thus resulting in heightened xenophobia and racism. This is why we shouldn't colonize space.

Discuss.

>>12612998
maybe it will result in species shift, thus permitting new and exotic forms of xenophilia
new types of diversity!!!! blue penis in vagina!!!!

>>12612998
GENETICALLY
ENGINEERED
SPACE
CATGIRLS
FOR
PERSONAL
OWNERSHIP

>>12612902
Name of the vehicle is what I meant? You referring to the LM9?

>a report came in that WSLC will be closed to public visits on Jan. 23-25. People wonder if this indicates SD-1 (JL-1)/Hainan-1 is launching this weekend w/o any notices.
https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1352538273860657155

I guess this might be where people get the idea that the Chinese launch is Sunday

>>12613038
I think it's number 8 but yeah it's one of them
you can identify it because it's got grid fins and two big fireworks strapped to the side that get brought along instead of jettisoned

>>12613037
Can I be engineered to be the catgirl?
For the benefit of space.

>>12612998
>thus resulting in heightened xenophobia
Does not follow.

>and racism
And yet we haven't nuked each other here on Earth. Space wars will be same MAD, different asshole.

>>12613061
I'm going to throw rocks and you can't stop me

>>12613061
>Naturally xenophobic humans wouldn't be even more xenophobic when speciated into different species

>>12613069
>naturally xenophillic humans wouldn't be even more xenophillic when speciated

>>12613066
No, I cannot. But I can and will be preparing even more, bigger rocks even as you just start laying foundations of your future colony. As I am possessing of more manpower and natural resources, I will always have more and bigger rocks. When you start harvesting the asteroids and whatnot I will do my best to keep up and ideally outperform you because I at least fear you to be a psychopath who will kill me if he can get away with it.

will there be seals on Mars

>>12613074
Humans aren't xenophilic.

>>12613078
incorrect, the rocks have already been thrown, good day
>>12613080
then why do I have the jungle fever

>>12613078
Britain to America: As I am possessing of more manpower and natural resources, I will always have more and bigger cannons

>>12613069
He said "heightened", though. It won't be any different than hating a very different nation/culture here.

>>12613089
M8 people who live on Vanth are gonna be WAAAAAAAY more different from people who live on the Martian surface than San Bushmen are from Koreans

>>12613084
>incorrect, the rocks have already been thrown, good day
You larpers don't even have a working spaceship yet to carry you to other celestial bodies.

>>12613086
>muh technical innovation
So what? You'll invent a meme drive that will allow you to reach your target 10 times faster? Have fun evacuating your colony before regular relativistic missiles vaporize it.

speeeeeeeeeeeeed

>>12613049
Kek let spacex do all the experimental/expensive stuff then just copy results. CCPChads

>>12613102
No, the US just ended up being outright bigger and more powerful because of it's immigration pull and larger territory, even though at one point it was outclassed by the UK. Advantages aren't forever

>>12613102
just build underground lmao
also good luck getting anything heavier than a particle beam to relativistic speeds

They're gonna bring SN10 to launch site next week?

>>12613116
The rules are different, though. We no longer have some uncharted territory into which we can expand seemingly endlessly, technology-wise.
A colony aggressively promotes breeding? Can't be easier than to do the same on Earth.
Territory is a non-issue as space is empty and useful territory is first and foremost this very planet. Muh space stations? You can build them literally anywhere.
Resources is the only thing you have but rest assured that the same planet that developed means of travelling to other geoids in the star system will not just sit idly when there is a burgeoning threat to its very continued existence.

The most hilarious thing is that if you maniacs weren't declaring literally murderous intent (in b4 only pretending) from the get go no one would have been paranoid. Instead I can guarantee that DoD in USA and probably in a few other countries have been studying the question in depth for years.

>>12613139
Earthnoids must die, and ultimately they will.

>>12613146
is it really murder if they're Earthnoids

>>12613146
Continue this rhetoric, in jest or no, and your Elongrag will "accidentally" become a radioactive ruin very early into its existence. Military guys can really shit on autistic fantasies when they start feeling uncomfortable.

>>12612998
Space colonization will cause human speciation and cultural isolation, thus resulting in heightened xenophobia and racism. This is why we should colonize space.
>>12613003
>new types of diversity!!!! blue penis in vagina!!!!
No. Penis in blue vagina (blue from the fur).

>>12613157
Mars is already a radioactive wasteland, what tf you gonna do to make it worse?

>>12613187
>you
Nothing. I am telling you larpers what will happen if you keep triggering in advance people with means to do something.
And I meant a colony specifically, not just the surface in general.

>>12613175
And who doesn’t love a furry vagoo?
Pedophiles, that’s who

>>12613194
There is very little Earth could do to stop people from killing hundreds of millions with asteroid drops , and it could even be done remotely and covertly to prevent anyone finding out who did it

>>12613194
>the people with the means to do something
The US (or any other terrestrial govt) would be absolutely powerless against a Mars colony for two reasons.
One, they can barely get shit into LEO, let alone build some relativistic super weapon (without Mars noticing). It's taken world governemnts 40 YEARS to get back to the fucking moon. And they are about to get beat to Mars by a fucking battery salesman.
Second, Mars (and the infrastructure needed to build a Martian colony) will have a much a easier time of just diverting random asteroids into Earth orbit than Earth would have. Earths gravity well is simply to great compared to Mars, and any space war is always going to go against the bigger gravity well because it's a bigger target thats ironically harder to defend.

>>12612678
>dem shock diamonds

>>12613234
IS THAT A DEMOCRAT WTF

>>12612998
>This is why we should colonize space.
ftfy

>>12613244
It's a neoliberal, anon.

>>12613216
Yes. Have you read about mutually assured destruction?

>>12613219
>One, they can barely get shit into LEO,
And yet to start building a colony anywhere else shit must go way beyond LEO with point A being here.

>let alone build some relativistic super weapon
What for?

>(without Mars noticing).
Noticing and being able to prevent something are two very different things.

>It's taken world governemnts 40 YEARS to get back to the fucking moon.
Suddenly getting an enemy hell-bent on your extinction unites humans like nothing else.

>And they are about to get beat to Mars by a fucking battery salesman.
Sure. Is his tech necessary for a retaliation, though?

>Second, Mars (and the infrastructure needed to build a Martian colony) will have a much a easier time of just diverting random asteroids into Earth orbit than Earth would have. Earths gravity well is simply to great compared to Mars, and any space war is always going to go against the bigger gravity well because it's a bigger target thats ironically harder to defend.
And it also takes only one diverted asteroid (or an NPP vehicle) getting through unintercepted to end a colony as well.

>>12613257
"Yes. Have you read about mutually assured destruction?"

An asteroid colony could literally boost out of the way.

>>12612998
Why is Israel allowed to build a monocultural ethnostate?

How does JAXA competence compare to NASA? That recent asteroid sample return was pretty cool, and they have another sample return mission planned for 2024 to go to Phobos

>>12613257
>that whole first point
Utterly irrelevant, SpaceX has the vehicle to do it, only two world governments can even (barely) get people to LEO.
>being able to prevent
Mars notices and sends out drones to divert asteroids toward Earth. Funny, there are way more asteroids accessible to a Mars colony than to Earth, and it's harder to send something to Mars than it is to send something from Mars to Earth. Earth may get some lucky hits in (assuming they can even pull off an asteroid redirect), but 10-100x that number will be sent toward Earth. And as a huge surprise Mars being mostly underground colonies anyways, asteroid hits would barely affect them while Earth is burning.

>Enemy hell bent on extinction
No Marsfag seriously wants to kill Earth, that's retarded. But if Earth tried to control Mars and Martians wa Ted independence, then using asteroids and orbital killsats to get the point across WILL happen and will be ridiculously easier for Martians to pull off than Earthers.

It's simple physics. It's easier to get off Mars, it's harder for Earth to send shit AT Mars than it is for Mars to send shit at Earth, and most of the shit small enough to be manipulated by humans is closer to Mars than Earth. In a purely economic sense it will always be cheaper, resources wise, energy wise, and time wise, for Mars to hit Earth than for Earth to hit Mars.

>>12613280
An asteroid colony would literally need exactly one unmanned spacecraft accelerating at a higher speed to impact it. Which is by definition easier than to accelerate an asteroid.

I know this is all either bored speculation or trolling, but at this point I'd rather the likes of you two were thrown out of the airlock for even joking about destroying an entire planet's civilization so that there will be less risk to Earth and its eventually fully independent offspring enjoying a peaceful and hopefully mutually beneficial existence.
In b4 but you say that too: no, I'm warning about the way military reacts to these things. I find the idea of destroying a civilization and its people barbaric and inexcusable.

>>12613302
>unironic globohomo advocate

Yeah no we're definitely throwing asteroids at you

>>12612718
For $16,000,000,000 you would expect a pretty good render.

>>12612998
>British sail across and colonize the earth
>months of travel time is the norm
>despite this there is little cultural drift
Only the British should colonize space, they have proven capable in the past.

>>12613299
>Utterly irrelevant, SpaceX has the vehicle to do it, only two world governments can even (barely) get people to LEO.
So when he leaves, he takes all the hardware and all the data with him or destroys everything he can't take with him. Inconspicuously. And travels back it time to erase everything the chinks have stolen. And who knows what the DoD has done. Okay.

>Mars notices and sends out drones to divert asteroids toward Earth.
They meet terran drones, get destroyed. What's next? You didn't think Earth was just sitting there doing nothing while you're trying to achieve self-sufficiency? For decades?

>It's simple physics. It's easier to get off Mars, it's harder for Earth to send shit AT Mars than it is for Mars to send shit at Earth, and most of the shit small enough to be manipulated by humans is closer to Mars than Earth. In a purely economic sense it will always be cheaper, resources wise, energy wise, and time wise, for Mars to hit Earth than for Earth to hit Mars.
You keep assuming three things which will never happen. A fully self-sufficient martian colony with vast manufacturing capabilities will not pop into existence overnight. Next, while the mole people cities might be much safer from orbital bombardment (although perhaps bunker busters can get an unexpected burst of R&D), either factories or at the absolute least launch pads need to be aboveground. Finally, Earth will not be mining resources somewhere (allegedly not in the belt because Mars will somehow magically control its entirety), dragging them back home, building shit on the surface and then launching. Everything will happen in space and now the gravity well of Mars will prove to be harder to defend than some asteroid converted into a factory in bumfuck nowhere.

>>12612718
Still a render

>No one has touched Mars
>People are already enacting tribalism over it

future gonna be spicy

>>12613381
Honestly until those autists reared their ugly mugs I was certain that these comments were just pure maymays. If they are already mentally preparing to attack their fucking progenitor due to a looming threat of imagined restriction of their freedom, then I fear free extraterrestrial colonies will never exist. At the very least in this star system. Why are humans so fucking shit. Truly we bring our problems with us no matter where we go.

>>12612633
We all were told, that we fly around sun on the ball and in a opposite side of sun after 6 months we still can see anti-Semitic truth https://i.pinimg.com/736x/42/8f/7b/428f7b5aef89944965e2e1aafca7b676--four-seasons-outer-space.jpg =Oo what? is that means, that we do not flying any where ? So how it is anti-Semitic?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/qlbkJZcnRSYm/
Can we observe that earth is flat? Yes. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=view+from+the+airplane&t=lm&atb=v1-1&iax=images&ia=images
Can we measure ? Yes, but only those who have technical awareness how to do that.
Commercial airplanes fly laser straight lines, according to the tool gyroscope, that keeps drift from rigid point in space, that confirms flat ground under all over from Europe to Australia.
So earth is continents surrounded by flat surface of water? Yes.
Observe able ? Yes.
Measurable? not by every baboon, but yes.
Ok. Let's check the Ball. It is observable ? No
Can we measure if "curvature" is correct ? No, no one have find yet any curvature = no ball, sorry
CGI pictures and fake videos are real. Take your time to see.
Fire work rockets real and $19.4 billion from taxpayers pockets real.
But how about "space" ? As real as Godzilla we all sow it on the screen, right? =O)
https://youtu.be/t95DRrr0aH8
SUBMARINES VS THE ISS HOAX-BRIEF DOCUMENTARY BY CURIOUS LIFE
THE FRINGE SKEPTIC
https://www.bitchute.com/video/tJqqn8BwDsZR/

https://youtu.be/XnHteA9Y9FQ

>>12613398
>nooo dont resist domination from a distant foreign power nooooo

>>12612633

>>12613381
When there is plenty of land for the taking things will be peaceful, once all the land is claimed that is when the fun starts.

>>12613400

When's the next hop opportunity?

>>12613404
Depends on resource concentrations. Water isn't super important on Earth these days but the stuff is more concentrated on Mars and has to be mined as a sort of ore or petroleum product because of it's location.

>>12613412
Hopportunity

>>12613293
JAXA is actually pretty decent for their budget and Japan's population size. They produce a decent amount of fundamental research and solar system probes.

jeff who is a bald motherfucker

>>12613420
their goals are consistent, same can't be said about NASA that starts and scraps programs every few years

>>12613293
If they can get the H-3 going that be huge for them, they do lots of good on a tiny budget.

>>12613437
Pretty sure Japan has all parties agree on long term goals so no matter who wins long term shit isn't effected.

>>12613401
>so I told the americans to land on the moon in a tinfoil and aluminum deathtrap, and the absolute mad lads actually did it!

>>12613437
NASA's robotic missions are pretty consistent, it's really only manned space exploration that's the contentious topic.

>>12613445
>consensus decision making for space exploration

NOIDONTTHINKSO. Partisan politics for everything or you're a commie

>>12612633
>>12613423

https://stoplookthink.com/

>>12613494
Demonrats want to ban manned spaceflight and demolish the Apollo landing site for being a symbol of heteronormative colonialism

>>12613398
Look at the world around you, do you see a libertarian paradise free from overbearing government control anywhere? The man will always come around to see that his dues are paid and laws obeyed. If you resist, you will be either forced to comply or die. This is somehow morally ok, yet even imagining resistance from this apparently makes you a shit human.

>>12613506
The North Korean approach is unironically the right one. They rushed a nuclear program to guarantee no one would fuck with them.

I think JAXA would be a fantastic partner for SpaceX, for the genetically engineered cat girls that is

>>12613494
That's cause JPL is where the actual space nerds and autists go. They get a budget and do what they can with it.

Manned space flight is a shitshow because its run entirely by pencil bureaucrats who only care about their paycheck.

>a car on the beach drove past the sn9 static fire test
>scrub due to wayward fucking cars.

>>12613548
lol someone smashes the soistronaut

I imagine he spilled his soispaghetti all over while some chad texan was shitting on him for being too distracted with his estrogen

>>12613653
I’m not a fan of SLS but I really want to see it succeed

>>12613550
Space fag general

>>12613037
>GENETICALLY
>ENGINEERED
>SPACE
>CATBOYS
>FOR
>PERSONAL
>OWNERSHIP
ftfy

damn, snine is already going for a static fire in the next few minutes

Did the static fire happen and was it successful, I was sleeping.

>>12613682
>>/lgbt/

>>12613692
There was a static fire yesterday but it didn't look successful. They're doing another one now.

Weebs are pedophiles, zoophiles, and believe in slavery. Big surprise

Are there any JAXA astronauts? I hope Japan goes to the moon and not China because fuck China

>>12613695
Why did you say weebs are based three times?

>>12613695
There's a JAXA astronaut on the station right now

>>12613695
I love china. This will truly be a red century. Fuck ScamX and his paper rocket, starsh*t

>>12613699
He's also the only human in the world to have gone up on three different launch vehicles.

>>12613695
>he didn't watch that NASA interview with the JAXA astronaught on the ISS with the hilarious engrish

static fire imminent bros

tri venting and past siren

ayyyyyy full duration today!

that's the stuff, boys

Flight when?

sip
now THAT was a static fire

That looks more like it.

>>12613702
How much they paying you; or is it the threat of social credit being lowered?

>>12613693
At least it ain't krystal posting

>>12613735
today, the window is wide open

>>12613742
would they even do a hop on a foggy day? Or would lack of visibility result in an unacceptable data loss?

>>12613741
cringe.
Krystal is queen of /sfg/

>>12613745
Visibility is irrelevant

>>12613740
5 renminbi

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

>>12613745
idk man i just shitpost here

>>12613748
visibility is data and no data is irrelevant

>>12613746
>>mlp

Those raptors skidded to a stop lol

>static fire this early
wtf

>>12613756
>muh data

I missed it, clip when?

Those birds are pissed bros

>>12613769
This, they also went from road closes -> fire in like 30 minutes, way faster then I'm used to

>>12613772
Just rewind the stream.

>>12613756
Not valuable tho
they would gain more from a fog launch than clear day launch

>>12613770
yes, that's the whole point of testing

>>12613778
damn, holy shit. Good sign though

>>12613748
Visibility makes for good press, which Elon probably wants.

all three raptors fired this time isn't it?

>>12613783
>muh this is why we test
>for muh data
go back to r*ddit buddy

>>12613746
Move over, furfag, make room for THE STRONGEST queen of /sfg/. And engine chills.

>>12613802
Kys already

>>12613784
Not sure what that anon means, it was 2 hours and 20 minutes according to the timestamps.

>>12613751
based

>>12613795
>doesn't test rocket
>fucking dies on first flight

rabbit.jpg
Hop when?

>>12613842
Makes me think of that dude who jumped off the Eiffel Tower lmao

>>12613849
>Bro it'll work bro
>don't worry bro i know it'll work
>muh testing
>lmao watch this

>>12613802
not space related

>>12613847
I don't know, if they did a full static fire today then it could potentially hop before February if we're lucky.

>>12613441
>H-3
I like how they plan to just add a third engine for a different version. A second Vulcain would make Ariane 6 much more interesting

>>12613867
Hi, I work at SpaceX. We're aiming for Monday as long as the weather is good. We need visibility to get the data. That's what testing is all about

>>12613875
Timestamp on Starship's belly or gtfo.

>>12613875
>We're aiming for Monday as long as the weather is good.
That's great news if true, thanks for your dedication to mankind's advance.
I will be looking at the livestream if it doesn't happen while I'm at work.
by the way... you know if the CO2 capture tech Elon was talking about on twitter is Tesla or Mars related? Thinking about submitting something...

>>12613879
Sorry, ITAR

>>12613875
Post bobs and raptors.

>>12613884
>you know if the CO2 capture tech Elon was talking about on twitter is Tesla or Mars related?
not that guy, but it's obviously Mars related

>>12613867
>posting an actual rabbit and not Judy Hopps

>>12613884
I figured that was part Mars related and part trying to keep the Dems off his ass

>wenhop.com
Neat.

>>12613884
Multipurpose. Mars atmosphere is largely co2 so carbon capture that works best would need to take that into account and make some extra use of oxygen leftover. Anyone doing this competition without thinling of dual use would be stupid enough to not get picked.

>>12613890
>obviously
dunno... could also be to reduce factory footprint or other CO2 optimization but I agree, it's very likely that it is about Mars / Sabatier etc.

>>12613903
This should be in the OP

>>12613867
Nah, Biden will ban Starship before then :-)

>>12613910
yes it is a nice lil' website to copy paste in the OP in a consistent way

>>12613908
I don't think Elon would put 100M into anything that isn't a concrete step towards Mars at this point

>>12613907
>Multipurpose.
I knew it... well that makes it a bit more challenging but certainly possible. If I come up with something I will send it.
t.chemical engineer

>>12612967

>>12613875
post froyo or gtfo

>>12613918
but he would for something good both for Mars and also his factories as a secondary goal... I'm sure that he would value a combo solution more than a purely Mars based solution.

>Plant frees
>Win $100M from Elon

>>12613937
those don't grow on Mars though... maybe some Antarctica tier lichens...

>>12613857
poor bastard, made a 6 inch dent in the frozen dirt when he landed

>>12613940
didn't Elon say he wanted to nuke the Mars poles to sublimate the frozen CO2?

>>12613894
Judy can't hop.
Would be an insult to Starship.
>>12613918
Definitely.
>>12613933
Use of it on Earth is a bonus for the publicity side. Helps make people who don't know about him more likely to have a positive opinion of him when they find out about him.
It's absolutely intended mostly for Mars. Though him being willing to drop a hundred million dollars on it makes me scared that they've run into some sort of snag internally.

>>12613945
I think that was more a meme than a real intention... having a decade long nuclear fallout on Mars could be counterproductive

>>12613937
Double digit IQ answer.

>>12613079
Yes.

>>12613952
Maybe he's just really confident in pulling in more money moving forward? Between Starlink and regular Falcon9 launches I think he will.

>>12613963
He's never going to have to worry about money again. The only thing he was to worry about now is how he allocates his time.

>>12613953
Depends on what kind of nuke you use. The warheads currently in use are really efficient and use very little plutonium, so you have rather little fallout.

>>12613963
>>12613969
If I were musk I wouldn't "throw away" 100 mil. His net worth is mainly tied to Tesla, which still has the potential for failure.

>He's never going to have to worry about money again
Not really accurate. If he truly wants huge interplanetary operations, 100 billion can be spent semi easily.

>>12613945
meme and not enough CO2 in the first place

>>12613972
yeah of course H-bombs with a small plutonium activation charge would be ideal but would still cause a small degree of fallout (plutonium, tritium etc.)

>>12613953
>>12613972
It'd be more efficient and easier regulation wise to just use a solar death ray on the icecaps

>>12613871
Eh it’s neat but it increases the complexity of the supply lines because now you need to make 2 different types of cores. It’s like if SpaceX made the Octaweb-Falcon alongside the 9-Square one. Now they have two production lines.

>>12613986
yes if you manage to make a swarm mirror and put it into place or similar to focus sunrays

>>12613953
Nuclear fallout stops mattering after a few months,and Mars is already radioactive anyway. People who think there'd be dangerous radiation years after a nuke went off are retards who got brainwashed by media and video games. It's incredibly short-lived.

>>12613716
try this

>>12614000
>Nuclear fallout
that is a hoax , there is no such a think .

https://www.bitchute.com/video/tGX9S9UgDuIn/

hehehe

>>12614000
terraforming a planet is never going to be fast anyway. Even if there's a global nuclear winter for 100 years it's still a drop in the bucket for the timeline of terraforming the planet.

>>12614027
You expect me to watch an hour and a half long conspiracy nut spew bullshit?

>>12614030
His original 1990 Mars Direct presentation is still on YouTube it’s great.

>>12613992
They are already practicing with starlink. So bit of change isn't too hard

>>12614041
>terraforming a planet is never going to be fast anyway
For you

>>12614046
have you watched the video where he teaches how to make an ultra efficient portable stove and shakes a grenade around in demonstration?

>>12614000
Fission products have half lives measured from minutes to decades. Depending on the total fuel mass of the bomb and how widely dispersed the fallout became, you could definitely form hotspots of activity that would be giving off significant amounts of dose even 50 years layer. A bigger hazard would be the formation of salts of these fission products which may be water soluble and get taken up into the body, where their activity results in a vastly higher effective dose.

Specifically-designed bombs meant to generate and spread contamination as a primary goal would be extremely effective at turning large areas of land into places where humans couldn't live permanently, and even some places where humans could not visit unprotected. Bombs with a cobalt 59 tamper for example would generate millions of curies of cobalt 60, which is a hard beta/gamma emitter and has a half life of ~5.3 years. That means that after 53 years there would still be ~50 curies of cobalt 60 left, which represents ~200x10^10 disintegrations per second, which means depending on concentration in the environment there could still be a high risk of significant dose rates.

>>12613398
It’s to convince someone to establish something they hate in a place they went to specifically to escape that which they hate and if that were to be forced on you then tribalism and extreme measures would probably be taken to free oneself.

what's the point of pushing the Artemis 2024 moon landing back? Why not have an ambitious timeline and delaying if needed? It's not like these projects have never been delayed before.

>>12613716
SOICHI 4 ARTEMIS 4

>>12613953
Obviously wasn't serious, and deviating and asteroid to collide with one of Mars poles is a lot better anyway.
Not to mention a nuclear reactor on Mars would make a lot more sense than solar panels but they would face political difficulties at launching that, imagine a nuclear weapon.

https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/nasa-lends-moon-rock-for-oval-office-display/

APOLLO 17

>>12614167
damn, that's unironically some pretty good news. Biden also put up a painting of FDR in the oval office, so I would hope that he was personally involved in this decoration choice as well.

>>12614131
>It's incredibly short-lived.
the only point to anything artemis related is that some senators can affoard another private island

>>12614179
Says he requested it yeah

>>12614179
>>12614167
if Biden administration specifically requested the rock, it would hint that manned Moon mission is 100% still on the table.

2024 (election year) landing would be optimal for political purposes as well.

>>12614131
Maybe they actually want to make sure that the Gateway is there first.

>>12614190
The gateway is soooooooo fuckin dumb.

>>12614131
>what's the point of pushing the Artemis 2024 moon landing back?
The point of the 2024 date was to hopefully get the Trump administration an ego boosting Moon landing in their then expected second term. The current Dem administration doesn't really care if they get there or not

>>12614192
remember that NASA plan to lasso an asteroid around the Moon

>>12614192
lunar space station is cool as fuck though

except for that retarded orbit... what was the point of the HALO orbit again?

>>12614189
2024 is Elon time, not going to happen

>>12614203
>what was the point of the HALO orbit again?
If I recall it's the only type of lunar orbit block 1 SLS can yeet things to

>>12614197
I imagine the trainwreck of an explanation that's gonna be to justify the failure of an extremely convoluted yet very unambitious.

-Ok so if the rocket hadnt shut of early the capsule in which the dead astronauts are would be able to dock with no problem with a space station, provided they took turns breathing because the italian life support module has more pasta than oxygen. Once there, they could have commanded the drone that's constantly transmiting "show bob vagene" to take a picture from the surface. So anyone who says this is a failure is actually a naysayer

>>12614203
it's only manned for a month at a timep, it's not needed to land people on the moon. it's a liability. the only reason it exists is to tie other nations in a knot to keep the program "sustainable" (uncancellable)

>>12613857
Dangerously based

So going off your own gut feeling, do you think SN9 will have a better chance at success than SN8? Lots of shit seems to be going wrong with this vehicle

>>12614216
if you paid half the cost of that piece of shit in straight out learning programs so that engineers from other countries could come learn a limited amount of knowledge according to what itar allows but instead of planning this clusterfuck you actually did something worthwhile you could accomplish much more

>>12613857
brave man

>>12614221
At this rate it will explode on launch.

>>12613857
He didn't fly so good!

>>12613857
suicide man, there was no reason not to test it first with a heavy antropomorphic doll, he wanted to die

either that or his design works but he outsourced part of it to indians

>>12614221
At first I thought she'd stick the landing then tip back over again, an improvement over SN8, but now I'm not so sure. She might just pull a repeat of SN8's landing, which would suck.

>>12613857
It wasn't the fall that killed him; it was the OD on too many redpills

>>12614221
i think the legs will come out and the landing will be soft ish, but the crush will give way and it will tip and die

>>12614231
Kek

>>12614192
>get to the moon, meet with the lander, land, do your shit, launch, go back to orion, throw away the module, go home
vs
>fly to the gateway, chill time, land on the moon, do your shit, launch back to the gateway, examine samples, fly home

everyday astronaut is my hero. i wish i could play hide and seek with him and bake cookies.

so
many
deployments

>>12614243
vs
>fly to the moon
>fly home

>>12614249
>This triggers the astronomer

>>12614249
also

>>12614221
Honestly it's kinda hard to tell, you can only really know if the fuel slosh problem is fixed by actually flying the ship, sloshing the fuel again and seeing if the alteration addresses the problem. While there have been some squabbles with the crush core legs, none have ever failed outright and collapsed during previous flights so I don't think those will be an issue now either. The greatest danger is undetected stress damage, which again might only be detected when it actually manifests.

>>12613857
what a lad

>>12614257
10 starlinks? The must be planning to patch up one of the first orbits.

>>12614257
>Reagan
Ronald?
can't wait to see the kind of insane rideshares Starship will get up to. I wonder how long it will take to completely phase out Falcon 9.

>>12614257
Are small sats launcher companies retarded when elon just yeeted 133 small sats into orbit.

>>12614192
>>12614243
the gateway is dumb
but starship as part of that infrastructure is another level of dumb:

>Launch a starship to orbit.
>Launch seven tankers to refill it
>TLI
>you dock with gateway, but low on fuel
>Put a tanker in orbit
>Launch seven tankers to refuel it
>That tanker goes TLI, injects the little fuel it can while being able to return to the lunar starship
>returns
>seven more tankers to refill it
>80 starship launches to get to the lunar surface
>Enough launches to make a mars base for boots on the moon

The only reason i can think for its existence is that it's some last ditch effort by desperate nasa scientist to make some of the funding go towards elon's way

>>12614270
>Ronald?
https://youtu.be/PQW2jG9dlQo?t=128

>>12614237
Yeah this is what I think, unless it surprises us with a perfect landing
>>12614261
Agree to this as well. Because Raptors are still fairly new, I'm wondering if it's in the realm of possibility of somehow exploding mid-flight. To be honest I was very VERY surprised SN8 was able to hover as long as it did without going out in a fireball. I guess this is because they have thousands of sensors for each engine, and they only launch the thing if all systems are go. Explains why they scrub a lot - they want to make sure the vehicle is happy

>>12614277
>Sumo
nice

>>12614277
nice try

>>12614249
>>12614273
Yes holy fuck, this must be the largest satellite rideshare deployment in history

>>12614277
>the gateway is dumb
Jim Lovell won't agree with you

>>12614277
>80 starship launches to get to the lunar surface
wat

>>12614323
It'd be roughly that to get a fully fueled Starship in a low Lunar orbit. However Starship doesn't need full tanks to land on the Moon, so it's a gay point.

Why did Transporter 1 get delayed?

>>12614342
they're gonna put 50 more sats on it

>>12614198
Now we're talkin' sense.

>>12614277
>16 launches per 1 mission
>still 300% cheaper than sls+orion
top jej

>>12614352
die reddit

>>12614301
at what?
>>12614323
sweet summer child go find out how the starship works
>>12614331
>it's a gay point.
It might involve anal sex between man, but its rigth

>>12614355
I'm native Texan fuck you I've got my y'all license.

>>12614355
Huh? Go back if you recognize it from there retard.

>>12614361
if you were a true texan you would shooting lefties not sharing memes about how the media portrays a portrayal of what texans like other people to think that other people think about the portrayal of what they think the media should portray them like.

youre probably adopted

>>12614361
Based fellow Texan, the other anon is too northerner and too gay to understand

>>12614368
Bless your heart.

>>12614357
>80 starships? I don't know why you think it's only gonna take 100 starships, everyone knows elon's plan is for 500 refueling flights per every kilogram placed in LLO, obviously he's going to need to hurry up and start cranking out those 1000 starships

Sweaty , you gotta go back

EVERY STARSHIP WILL HAVE THE TEXAS FLAG ON HER HULL

>>12614369
i seem to remember someone losing a war
northern chads are the only industrious, undefeated breed of american

>>12614382
>fuck pork
lol, they are already invaded by jews and they dont know it
i bet they cut off their dicks "because of sanitary reasons" and dont question it

>>12614382
Okay but fuck the Cowboys and fuck A&M, also rip in peace Dublin Dr. Pepper.

>>12614394
Oh and fuck UT as well

>>12614380
You know he won't, he gets banned for this nonsense all the time but he just resets his router and comes right back.
What must it be like, getting tossed out and told to fuck off again and again, having to convince yourself that it's funny and that you should do it again? I think this is just his hobby and he has nothing better to do with his time.

>>12613187
> Mars is already a radioactive wasteland, what tf you gonna do to make it worse?
Trump 2024.

>>12614398
what was the post?

>>12614400
What's your alternative?

>>12614382
What's wrong with OK?

what the fuck is with this literal would scare off a literal nazi censorship, if someone screws up just ban him i want to read what happened

>>12613146
Urf needs to be rebooted and cleaned. No parasites need to come out.

>>12614410
Why does Galveston look like shit, but south padre / boca have beautiful water? Does it have to do with sediment runoff or something? Earth has confusing geology

>>12613210
It's always the furfags sexualizing cubs, us robofuckers are already way ahead.

So... the ISS has another hole in it

>>12614414
Keep an eye on the thread next time shitposting begins. You'll notice a pattern:
>thread is chill, actually discussing things
>retard makes inflammatory shitpost unconnected to anything
>anons take the bait, tell him to fuck off
>rampant wave of shitposting begins, ending only with mod intervention
Rinse and repeat daily. I'll say it again, this is his hobby and he's a very boring person.

>>12614425
Glory hole?

>>12614425
Just deorbit the thing already. It's asking for euthanasia

>>12614425
small holes in a space station really aren't that big of a deal, they just get a lot of press because they sound like a big deal

>>12614425
Just stick some silly putty over it.

>>12614425
>ISS Russian Segment head Vladimir Solovyov underscored that air loss due to the crack are insignificant
>"This leak is like as if you’d drill the hull with a 0.2 mm diameter drill. I’m not sure such drills even exist in household. As for the leak it causes, our [space air] pressure is 750 mmHg, and this alleged crack causes us to lose 0.3 to 0.4 mmHg every day," the official said, adding that emergency leak starts when pressure falls at 0.5 to 1 mmHg per minute.
>In November, Russian cosmonauts photographed the suspected leak location on the outside of the ISS, but found no hull damage at where the crack is supposed to be.

>>12614414
I haven't even seen whatever the posts are, at least not recognizing them

>>12614425
Sergei kosmos blyat

>>12614425
the iss or a docked soyuz made by increasingly drunk and defunded workers?

>>12613325
How? Also I'm not the globohomo, I'm the dude who told off a furfaggotry shill.
If I may suggest, this rock throwing stuff is primitive and caveman tier. Convert the asteroid into a swarm of smaller meteors with hydrogen bomb warheads. Literal rain of death. Also spares nations who haven't done wrong.

>>12614452
I'm the an-prim anon so "primitive" and "caveman" are right up my alley

Why did they put lights on 7.2

>>12614425
>ULA snipers going orbital to push for ISS replacement contracts

Uhh....guys??? I just woke up from the end of my cryo journey to this new habitable planet. What year is it?

>>12614477
1998

>>12614477
The entire sector is depressurizing and the blue vacuum shield won't last long. Get through a secure airlock before you're sucked into space. Move it!

>>12614477
2009 again

>>12614477
ugh i hate roleplaying fags

i should know, im a time wizard cop god master, i dont have time for liars

>>12614477
2001

>>12614444

>>12614561
Strange use of a get lol

>>12614277
>functional starships
>using gayway

Pick one.

>>12613399
Back to your containment board fag

>>12614425
Now you'll realize 1 atm pressure difference doesn't work like in the movies and it will take literally forever for air on board to run out.

Now, taking out the cupola or one of the docking ports...

>Best case scenario: Starship costs $2 mil per launch
>80 launches times $2 mil = $160 mil
How is this different than just launching to the moon on a bigass ULA rocket for ~$200 mil? The fuck am I missing here?

>>12614561
>being under 7"
Might as well kill yourself

>>12614616
>The fuck am I missing here?
A functional frontal lobe

>>12614616
Nothing, Starship is a scam. This general is absolutely delusional.

>>12614616
A couple of chromosomes

>>12614616
You aren't missing anything muskrats as usual are delusion and in fact ULA will have rockets for for a bit less than $200 mil.

I am in no way affiliated with ULA.

>>12614623
Oh no, he is questioning Starship! Gotta not provide a real answer and instead resort to just calling him retarded!!!

>>12614266
10 starlink sats are there because the FAA fucked over Momentus at the last moment. Their Vigoride sat was scheduled to be a part of this launch but the FAA had other plans. This also screwed over SpaceX who had to scramble at the last minute to fill the empty space. Fortunately they had some spare starlink to cram in there.

>>12614616
more launches, more points of operational failure

firefly with a cameo from on of our own

>>12614616
I mean, Delta V Heavy costs $350,000,000 to launch to orbit, and it has a payload of 29 tons, so if Starship can launch to orbit for $50,000,000, and bring 100 tons, isn't it....obviously better?

>>12614634
Why do you think it's viable to suck over 100 dicks in one day? It's already well-established that this is your plan but have you even begun on the infrastructure required to suck over 100 dicks daily? You've got to have waiting rooms, hydration stations, multiple restrooms for those left waiting for their dick to get sucked, secured funding for all the mouthwash and kleenex required for this venture.
I just don't think you've fully considered the ramifications of your plan and frankly, I think you're a fraud.

>>12614616
80 starships would carry significantly more mass to the lunar surface than any $200 million rocket. (Or any single rocket with any given price for that matter)

>>12614627
>>12614633
SpaceX skeptics = reason and intellect
>>12614630
>>12614623
Musk fanboys = raging nerds, no real arguments, just ad hominems

Where the fuck does this 80 number come from? Wouldn't it only need 12 to get fully refuelled? That's only about $25 million assuming $2 mil per tanker

continued work on 7.2. Must be happy with the SF; they're in no rush to check on SN9

>>12614657
Where does the 80 starships come from? Someone pulled the number out of their arse and now we're going along with it?

How about this; 1488 SS.

Let's go with that instead. How do the economics change?

>>12614661
Look all I'm saying is that it may be more realistic to scale back your plans to only suck 50 dicks a day, if you can get your succ-cadance down to just a few minutes you'll at least provide confidence for your investors and then you can begin expanding outwards to suck 60, 70, maybe even 80 dicks per day.

>>12614273
Yes, they have always been fucking retarded

>>12614663
>Where the fuck does this 80 number come from?
Anon's frequently-penetrated asshole.

>>12614653
>>12614678
>>12614692
why do muskrats use homoerotic language so much?

I know I'm jumping the gun here, but could they ever get starship under $1 mil? I could maybe see the cost of fuel going down. And I assume Raptor is the biggest hurdle.

>>12614616
80 launches is what it would take lunar starship to function accomodating to the gateways shitting architecture. Meaning you use the starship as a "lander" from the gateway to the surface, even tough the lander is several times bigger than your "station".
even then its cheaper

but using a sane architecture, like keeping your starship in orbit and using a lander from there, or landing it but returning with 20 tons of moon rocks it would be order of magnitude cheaper for a much better result.

In a nutshell(aprox):

Pure apollo style landing but with current rockets:around 50 billion for boots on the moon and 50 kg of moon rocks back

Starship with artemis architecture: around 10 billion for boots and around 300kgs of moon rocks back. 80 starship launches

Starship with lander in orbit: around 300 million for boots on the moon and 1 ton moon rocks back. 14 starship launches.

Starship without artemis landing whole on the surface: around 500 million for boots on the moon and a couple tons of moon rock. around 30-40 launches

>>12614663
the calculation is putting a fully fueled starship in lunar orbit, but there would never be any point to ever do that so it's pointless to consider

>>12614698
Hey you're the one who claimed to be able to suck 80 dicks, I'm just trying to apply some realism to your lofty dream.

>>12614698
what the gaysex cum inside my slut-hole is it to you if we do?

>>12614701
no
fuel alone is almost 1 mil. Most optimistic cost is around 2 mil per launch.
For 100.000 kg that's like 20 $/kg to orbit. how much cheaper do you want it?

>>12614616
Because 80 Starship/Superheavy launches would move eight kilotons of material while a single Vulcan launch will move 27-30 tons.

>>12614664
yeah, theyre in no rush to check because terrified of what they already know they will find: a shredded asshole. q2 2021 boys, q2 2021

>>12614707
>able to suck 80 dicks,
hey, anyone can boast the ability to do so, i know few people who like "cant" but lets see you actually do it honey, show what you got or youre bluffing

>>12614712
>how much cheaper do you want it?
Under $1 mil lol. I'm just seeing if it's in any way possible. You're right though, $2 mil is cheap as fuck already. Hell even $10 mil would still be good

oil rig watchers rise up!!!!

>>12614729
Don't make me get another monitor

>>12614712
>20$/kg

musk cultists think this is cheap hecking LMAO

>>12614720
I've never claimed that I could, I'd probably choke at one if I'm being honest.
But let's get back on track: At what point did you realize the scope of your DickSucc project was beyond the 2022 goal you originally set? Scaling back pet-projects can be hard, though not as hard as the dicks you long to suck.

>>12614714
you retard, you dont understand.
A vulcan is 30 tons neatly sent to where you want via the power of results over rethorics

out of the "80 starships" 79 of those launches are just support trying to refuel the most retarded architecture ever to have been conceived.
if any of those 34 engines in those 80 starships fails its instant loss of crew.

Let me rephrase

if the most insanely complicated and fragile machine vwhich has ever been, which was done with 0 safety margins so it could even come close to the needed standards can't work perfectly 2880 times in a row while being carried to the limit of their capacity for 10 minutes in a row PERFECTLY then all of your astronauts die.
now keep in mind they can't even make one raptor run 5 seconds on earth and youll realize how much of a snake oil salesman musk is

>>12614743
dangerously based rational poster

>>12614736
20$/kg to LEO would be such an obscenely revolutionary change in space access it would make sci fi look boring. how much do you think would be cheap?

>>12614739
>I'd probably choke at one if I'm being honest.
don't sell yourself short im sure you could suck half the city dry you got it in you

DOLPHINS

>>12614736
>hecking

please stop replying to the troll, guys. No one says "hecking" outside of the soiboy memes

https://youtu.be/BZ_qX5PFlyg

Phobos arriving at its new destination stream

>>12614743
>can't even make one raptor run 5 seconds
Raptor #42 running for over 4 minutes straight would like to have a word with you.

>>12614701

yeah, the key determinant of cost is going to be the amount of wear and tear they put on the vehicles. so the raptors are the obvious problem, but the re-entry protection is also going to be a huge issue. the heating puts a lot of stress on specific points on the vehicle, and most orbital reentry protection uses ablative protection, which by its nature isn't fully reusable.

this was the trouble the space shuttle had, the engines had to be refurbished and the whole thermal protection system inspected in between flights. so the whole thing took months of work and millions of dollars to turn around, to the point that it wasn't a clear improvement over expendable rockets.

>>12612640
B A S E D
A
S
E
D

>>12614418
it's further from Houston

>>12614743
If one eighth of the Starships makes it to orbit that's ten Starships, and if it were to cost ten refuelings (as opposed to the four it actually does) to top off a single Starship, leaving only a single Starship fueled for interplanetary flight, that means that those eighty Starship launches could put a 100 ton payload wherever you pleased, compared to Vulcan, meaning that even if you had to sacrifice (completely destroy) 79 Starships to allow a single Starship to survive and perform it's mission, that gargantuan effort would not substantially differ from the cost of a single Vulcan rocket, while placing more than three times Vulcan's cargo into space, making 80 Starship launches with 79 useless Starships three times more cost efficient than launching a single Vulcan.

>>12614765
Phobos is such a terrible name for a launch platform. All aboard the SS Fear!

snine https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1352688552539131904

>>12614751
Thank you for your kind words anon, it's nice to have somebody believe in you.
Space, much like myself, is hard.

>>12614769
The SSME's were ALRIGHT for their time, considering the fact that they could be refurbished using the federal govt's bottomless wallet. But those astronaut ice cream thermal tiles were God damn inexcusable

>>12614769
>to the point that it wasn't a clear improvement over expendable rockets.
well that's an understatement like saying your mother is "prone to having several partners", shes a fucking cock hungry whore whod rather die before going one day without several phalluses(phallusi?) inside her

the space shuttle was clearly an objectively intensely worse option than any option to go to space including flapping your arms with a broom up your ass

>>12612742
>>12613338
>>12613378
>hurr muh rendurr
Did you guys have a meeting about this on discord or something? Cope

>>12614774
Why the fuck is mission control in Houston anyways? Did they just pick a random city?

>>12614782

>>12614781
>don't worry the death preparers will come soon, board our great ship, the "HMS accident", our destination "dying in pain base"

>>12614701
Vehicle or launch costs?

>>12614782
get off your fucking ass elon, we dont have much time left

>>12614793
yeah i'm retarded and forgot the screenshot

>>12614765
The fog reall makes it kino

>>12614765
spoopy

>>12614783
>Space, much like myself, is hard.

>>12614765
how do oil rigs move? how do they even float?

>>12614701
>I could maybe see the cost of fuel going down.
they're going to be making their own fuel. Lox from the air. And this carbon capture contest will be used to make methane. All powered mostly by their own energy production. Their fuel costs will be dirt cheap

>>12614809
Geology interns push them as they desperately plea for a permanent job with the company

>>12614809
You have to put them on many boats at once I believe.

>>12614809
big tugs

>>12614791
LBJ had sway in the site selection and he's from Texas

>>12614810
Purchasing bulk methane will always be cheaper. They should be able to get better pricing on LOX though. It's not that common.

>>12614809
A cool thing called buoyancy. Basically pushes the water out of the way but because of newtons 2nd law the water pushes back and it floats

>>12614820
>Purchasing bulk methane will always be cheaper.
oh yeah, you're probably right. Slipped my mind they they're literally burning the stuff away because they have too much of it

>>12614809
>how do oil rigs move?
they are towed>>12614809
>how do they even float?
this may surprise you but they float by having submerged compartments that exert a buoyant force enough to keep it afloat

When its actually operating extracting oil it sits above a tower build in sections that go all the way to the ocean floor...

you didnt think like, they are moving the whole thing, right? RIGHT?

>>12614816
pic related is a section of the tower but that isnt what musk bought and it would be retardedly and insanaley expensive to add that, you dont need anchoring to the bottom of the ocean for a platform

>>12614821
but steel and concrete is more dense than water

>>12614819
Makes sense. Houston is fucking cool, but about half the people need to fucking leave. Traffic is horrendous

>>12614809
These ones float yes

gonna be some great pictures today

>>12614826
Water in vast amounts such as the ocean is heavier

>>12614829
Traffic is terrible everywhere. Does the US just have an infrastructure problem? I thought our highway network was supposed to be the best in the world...

so... was it a scam?

>>12614809
stop questioning everything

>>12614774
Hairy legs are hot unless you want to fuck kids

>>12614827
>When its actually operating extracting oil it sits above a tower build in sections that go all the way to the ocean floor...
These ones are semi-submersible platform (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-submersible_platform)) they're just anchored, there's not a complete structure under them. According to the wiki some can drill with a 3000m water depth, so you're not going to build a 3km structure.

>>12614844
>I thought our highway network was supposed to be the best in the world...
It was when it was brand-new but that was what, 70 years ago now? Everything's patchwork now.
>>12614846
Well yeah. Did you ever think otherwise?

>>12614844
It was groundbreaking when Eisenhower made it. But it was only good for its time. Nowadays the average american owns a car, and the fact something like I-10 is really the only way to get from California to Florida (besides flying) and the fact that this highway narrows down to 1 lane most of the time because of constant crashes and roadwork makes it pretty fucking useless

>>12614844
They keep adding lanes to the roads but that just invites more people so nothing gets better. If not for the... urban individuals, I'd say we need more trains and subways.

>>12614826
not if it's hollow. It's basically sitting on two giant submarines. When it wants to lower itself into the water it fills them up with water

>>12614865
ooooh I see

>>12614865
>>12614869

>>12614865
Holy shit, living on an oil rig city would be pretty cool

>>12614826
So is steel, but somehow battleships floated. Because they're full of empty space, with air, which is less dense than water, or else the water would be floating up above us and the air would be at the bottom

already getting rammed

>>12614816
that one is a fixed platform, Elon's is the floaty kind

>>12614881
Jeff pls

>>12614826
its special aired steel, try to make a battleship out of regular steel and youll see what happen. Very similar to how spaceship steel is "vacuumed" so that its filled with the very thing it has to isolate against, in a counterintuitive technique called "the bessemer hoop"

>>12614893
Jeff Who trying to get his name out there

weaponised autism

>>12613059
No, degenerate.

>>12614904
NSF was super smart to hire some autists

>>12614765
I dub thee, Sir Phobos, Knight of Mars, Beater of Ass. Be a hitter babe.

>>12614924
SIR PHOBOS?

>>12613692
Lazy bastard.

>>12614931

"Doctors and other wizards"

>>12614889
>you will never get a job on the SpaceX mother base

>OH N-

>>12614131
He who builds a moon base first and set up defences like lasers, missiles arrays, gauss guns, microwave cannons, etc, gets to claim the moon. Do you want the Chinese to claim the moon?

>>12614844
Our interstate highway system probably is the best in the world when you consider its utility for long distance travel and logistics, but most large arteries within American cities are ridiculously overstrained. This is probably due to a combination of the high concentration of individual car ownership in the US, combined with a comparative lack of public transit infrastructure in high population density areas.

>>12614277
All that is correct, and is because retarded politicians don't allow to use nuclear thermal engines.

>>12614970
lmao

>>12614872
>>12614889
>white people building crazy ass floating city oil platforms and skyscrapers that fly into space and then land themself
>blacks can't even build a functioning civilization
Does 20 points of IQ really make that much of a difference?

>>12615002
Politicians aren't as stupid as you think. Play Deus Ex to get redpilled

>>12615019
Space flight will have a hard struggle with all the black rabbits breeding fast

>>12615002
man patrician with great taste detected, person with whom exchange of blowjobs wouldnt be gay but merely good tasted exchange of sexual favors.

once starship works literally dont do anything except LEO nuclear salt water spaceship development, like just throw an apollo program at it and you have the whole solar system

>>12615031
It's not black people's fault that white people are decadent dead ends. Complain about your own race's failings, do not complain about the success of another. That is envy.

>>12615034
>It's not black people's fault that white people are decadent dead ends.
hello person who is speaking in a forum about spaceflight.

staying spaceflight related, in which way are whites decadent compared to other races? thank you fellow space flight interested person

>>12615019
>>12615031
>>12615034
Why do you keep doing this to /sfg/?
Fuck off

>>12615040
Because it will ultimately effect it

>>12615045
Could we just go one day without offtopic racebaiting nonsense in this spaceflight general thread?
>hey scientifically speaking: niggers
>scientifically speaking olololo white beebol
>hey /sfg/ what's your thoughts on race-realism?
Fuck off

>>12615045
>Trust the plan bro
>>12614889
I take it that this platform will just be a fuckhuge, glorified version of their current landing ships. I wonder just how much modifications they plan on making to it. Will it look like shit or will they slap stainless steel everywhere?

>>12615045
No it won't IQ has nothing to do with genetics and this is a scientific fact.

This century might belong to China but the future belongs to Africa.

>>12614672
The thrust to based ratio increases exponentially at that point

>>12615019
20 points affects how many geniuses you get

>>12615063
Keep repeating it. It will totaly become true

https://youtu.be/RBK4XBogLic

I wonder if it might make sense for a hrydomeme starship for the moon. Iirc the moon isnt the right location to easily make methalox insitu verusus hyrdolox.

>>12615086
Doesn't it form long chain carbons?

>>12614765
I still think naming oil rigs after Mars' moons is ominous as fuck.

>>12615063
>evolution affected every aspect of each race differently except the brain
Lol

>>12615063
>IQhas nothing to do with genetics
It's 80% inheritable you fucking idiot, look at the fucking studies. We've even begun identifying the SNP's involved which is completely unnecessary when you have twin studies. You've never read any actual studies about this subject since you don't even know intelligence is one of the most heritable traits we've discovered.

>>12615039
>staying spaceflight related, in which way are whites decadent compared to other races?
Extremely high living standards, and thus extremely weakened in terms of mental and physical resilience, hedonistic, consumerist lifestyles with dwindling religion, and extinction-level birthrates. A civilization at the zenith of it's power, where complacency and hubris give way to decay and degeneracy.

Of course; civilizations are replaced by more vitalistic and youthful civilizations when they die. Perhaps this is what we will see amongst the heavens?

>>12615063
>No it won't IQ has nothing to do with genetics and this is a scientific fact.
People believe this unironically which is depressing.

>attention all /fit/izens
>the ambassador from the great space library is visiting the station
>any insults over how skinny he is will be punishable by at least three weeks of pure cardio

>the oil rig is already branded as phobos
LMAO

Well what the fuck is Musk gonna do if he needs a third platform? Phobos and Deimos. You've already ran out of names