/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12234513
porn should be thought of as equivalent to chemical drugs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv-ODnbbP7U

>>12234513
Had to sacrifice all my life's goals and dreams in order to get rid of this addiction. It did take me 5 years, but I did it

>>12234550
>Had to sacrifice all my life's goals and dreams in order to get rid of this addiction. It did take me 5 years, but I did it
was your dream to become a porn actor or smth?

>>12234562
Nah, I'm a stemfag, but I couldn't continue doing it and get rid of the addiction - it was like fighting on two fronts

>>12234572
Where does that leave you now? Was it worth it?

Holy fuck are you people ok? Why are you guys so addicted to porn? I literally wack off whenever I feel like it and porn has never negatively affected my life.

>>12234582
Not sure. While I do feel wiser I haven't accomplished anything worthwhile in life, at least what would other people consider worthwhile, such as having a career, money, etc. So in that sense I'm like Diogenes. I feel wiser but I do that while living in a barrel.

>>12234626
Watch the videos and tell us your opinion.

>>12234742
>BRO GO WATCH THE VIDEOS
>DUDE JUST CONSOOM
yep you probably did watch too much porn

>>12234550
>>12234655
>>12234655
I'm on a similar path. I've been neglecting my career in order to beat the addiction. It's been my top priority for the last 3 years. I do feel way more wiser regarding the topic and I'm happy for it. I love the feeling of certainty of being free. For me it was worth it 100%.

>>12234513
I think I'm gonna coom now.

>>12234760
Kek, then read the book. What do you think the effects of a pornographic stimuli has in the brain? Or maybe you're scared to know the effects? Or maybe deep down you know it has negatively affected your life and you disregard any study on the topic in order to feel better for yourself? Maybe it's both.

>>12234789
>I'm on a similar path. I've been neglecting my career in order to beat the addiction
Imagine lying like this. You're either lying or are retarded as fuck. Or both.

>>12234513
a lot of what he is saying could be said about the entirety of internet and most of entertainment today. also a lot of misleading misrepresentations and straight up wrong statements. not saying porn is good, it's bad but there is a lot of bullshit

>>12234812
Genuinely honest. I loved how I felt on nofap and noporn so I obsessed over the idea of quitting. I spend all my vyvanse in reading books about the subject and creating a personal system so I can guarantee myself a porn/fap free life. Life just isn't worth for me if I'm gonna be a slave to porn forever. I feel amazing on a long nofap streak. And everything I do seems more fun and easy. Doesn't make sense to study a career if I feel like shit all the time thanks to cooming.

>>12234822
Read pic related

>>12234789
>It's been my top priority for the last 3 years
This is it. It was my top priority for such a long time and no matter what happened, I knew I was working towards that. It was such a difficult journey, but after I was done I felt like a child again, when I was free of this terrible curse

>>12234822
>internet and most of entertainment today
Sure but porn is about reproduction itself which is the primordial function of your genes. Makes sense that a superstimuli version of what humans are naturally wired to crave the most will hook anyone up.

>>12234888
>Makes sense that a superstimuli version of what humans are naturally wired to crave the most will hook anyone up.
Sure, it makes sense, but does that make it good?

>>12234901
Hell no. I'm living proof it isn't. I already quit it. My point was that even though it may share similar mechanisms with other internet stimuli, it doesn't mean it has their same effects. I think getting addicted to porn is something to be expected in our current society since it's the most powerful stimuli for humans. But I never denied it destroys your dopamine receptors and your prefrontal cortex. It really fucks you up.

>>12234888
sex is different than masturbation and your body knows this. masturbation is a lot less satiating (there is the entire mental aspect and a lot more) which is also the reason people tend to go extremes with masturbation.
the problem here isn't just about porn alone but the fact that sex is inaccessible for many which makes them turn to porn. if sex was accessible most people wouldn't even masturbate, sex gives them greater reward + more intimacy and emotions, but that's impossible and porn exploits this. the people who lose in this are the ones that can have sex if they try because it gives them an easy substitute.

>>12234873
I know that feeling. I'm glad you could make it. I feel reborn too. Now I just hope I don't get expelled from uni after my long absence and bad grades. But even if that happens, I'm not scared anymore. With the knowledge I gained, I know I can do anything I propose myself. At least that's how I feel on nofap. Whatever happens, I'm back with a bang.

>>12234953
>sex is inaccessible for many which makes them turn to porn
I think that's mainly because humans tend to see sex as the most important thing ever. It's a natural thing to do specially if you are a teenager, hence why most of them get hooked to porn with or without access to sex. But personally, after realizing how bad porn fucks you up, even if I'm the last man on earth I wouldn't watch porn or masturbate ever again.

>if sex was accessible most people wouldn't even masturbate
Correct but add porn to the equation and people will prefer it over sex and therefore prefering masturbation over sex.

>the people who lose in this are the ones that can have sex if they try because it gives them an easy substitute
I think it's not only because it's easy, but because porn is way more stimulating than real sex.

>>12235000
>but because porn is way more stimulating than real sex.
this is just wrong, porn might provide things you can't get irl psychologically but it's less rewarding and stimulating
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16095799/
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14681990601149197

How much porn consuming is considerable concrete addiction? How much masturbation?

>>12234513
porn should not be free

>>12234810
>What do you think the effects of a pornographic stimuli has in the brain?

Over stimulation leads to down regulation of seeking/reward pathways associated with mating in the real world.

You know living in a stressful capitalist society also reduces your sex drive. Are you also going to give up living in a society?

>>12235018
Less rewarding? Yes. The body realizes that it's not the same after masturbating to it. Unfortunately, the endless novelty of porn before orgasm triggers way more dopamine than 1 real life mate. After repeated exposure to it, the brain just isn't able to get the same level of arousal from a real life person. A porn addict may be able to get an erection somehow and fuck a real person but it just won't feel as exciting as with the endless variety of porn.

>>12235046
>>12235046
>Over stimulation leads to down regulation of seeking/reward pathways associated with mating in the real world.
Ah, you do have a brain! That's correct indeed.

>also reduces your sex drive
Not nearly as much as internet porn so to answer your question: No, I won't give up living in a society. I'll just quit internet porn. Next question, please.

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>>12234513
Anecdotal evidence here, porn lowers my motivatiom, concentration and energy level drastically.
After a month of not fapping I'm much better but alas I always fall back again.

>>12234513

Pic relevant

>>12234550
same here famalam
i think ive finally made it, it's no easy thing.

>>12234626
Yeah I don’t get it either. If I wasn’t single I’d probably never look at it at all. Can’t understand how someone could do it every day

>>12234562
I would rather die than be a porn actor. I wouldn't contribute to a medium that ruined my 20s and 30s and made me a slave to my own body. Fuck porn. Producing it should be punishable by death.

>>12234626
Addict cope.

>>12234862
Sir, it's for you.

>>12234862
Anon, you shouldn't be here. I was off porn and masturbation for a few years and this website has the potential to expose you to sexual stimuli and reset all the good you've done.

>>12234626
i used to be like this once.

>>12235690
I rarely masturbate, but I'm not actively trying to stop watching internet porn. Literally get a hobby, I just can't see how you can get addicted to Porn. I whack it once in a while but I'm not to the point where I'm jacking it every day and ruining my life. Just don't masturbate? I can't see how you can possibly be addicted to porn literally just stop watching. It isn't as addictive as fucking crack or alcohol. Literally just stop watching, and get a hobby.

I just find it funny that a lot of people probably think of pornhub or some other normie garbage when they hear the word porn lmao

>>12235721
Im glad I did not get porn-sick to the point of considering pornhub too vanilla for my tastes

>>12235707
>I rarely masturbate, but I'm not actively trying to stop watching internet porn.
Then you have a low sex drive (low T or SSRIs) or engage in coitus as substitute.
>Literally get a hobby, I just can't see how you can get addicted to Porn.
You don't see how the strongest evolutionary reward has behavioral consequences? Let's see an MRI of how smooth your brain is.
I whack it once in a while but I'm not to the point where I'm jacking it every day and ruining my life.
Habit increases frequency. I masturbated once a week when I was a teenager. I'm 30 now and its 5 times a day or more.
>I can't see how you can possibly be addicted to porn literally just stop watching. It isn't as addictive as fucking crack or alcohol. Literally just stop watching, and get a hobby.
It's actually more addictive than hard drugs and alcohol. You also cannot simply quit as arousal itself is a reward so according to your brain dead "just stop watching bro" advice, I'd be dripping with precum and constantly aroused. You not only need to stop watching but control the currents of your mind and deny any arousal from occurring. This takes years of effort and can be offset by any intrusion, prior cue, or new instance of sexual stimuli. You're just a low IQ man at the same level of an animal. I noticed the other galaxybrain in this thread is also a stimulant user so we've reached mental heights your peabrain could never conceive of. I am nothing right now but the times I've quit this I was superhuman.

>>12235699
>expose you to sexual stimuli and reset all the good you've done
I'm always training myself to instantly ignore any porn spam that catches my eye. It's second nature at this point. I don't want to spend my life running away scared from porn. And I can't run from myself either. If my eye lingers a second time and I feel that classic tremor in the back of my spine, I just refocus my attention into something else for a few minutes until the urge is gone. So porn spam is not really a problem for me.

>>12235760
>jerks off 5 times per day and can't stop
>calls other people animals
lmao what a fucking disaster you are

>>12235760
> I'm 30 now and its 5 times a day or more
> call other people smoothbrains
I take a solemn oath to rope myself if I end up like this at age 30.

>>12235760
>It's actually more addictive than hard drugs and alcohol
Holy fucking shit do you faggots not have sex?

>>12235770
Sex and masturbation are at the same level. Both crystalize mediocre lives that revolve around being a slave to your biological urges.

>>12235760

Fixing the greentext.*
>I whack it once in a while but I'm not to the point where I'm jacking it every day and ruining my life.
I masturbated once a week when I was a teenager. I'm 30 now and its 5 times a day or more.

>>12235770
It is. Someone post the cumbrain meme with citations.

>>12235791
>>12235800
chuds begone

Is it worse to look / fap to RL porn or to hentai?

I have not masturbated or watched porn for over two months now. Im not sure if I notice anything different. Before stopping masturbating and quitting porn, I had a very strange fetish, and I still have this fetish now. So it seems unlikely that quitting porn and masturbation will reboot your brain into liking plain vanilla sex only and get rid of odd fetishes.

>>12235842
I've read some people need even 2 years of nofap and noporn to properly reboot. And you have to never engage in fantasizing about it too or the neural pathways related to it are kept alive.

>>12235856
That seems like a ridiculously high standard

>>12235863
Then suffer.

>>12235874
I mean, its not like I think having the fetish is bad

>>12234513
>>12234789
>>12234873
Honestly when it came to porn all it took me dropping NNN to see how pathetic i was trying to resist watching porn and not cooming as if some force was trying to make me watch porn, the trick was just to coom without porn and honestly after a week or so after having that deep realization i never felt the need to watch porn ever again.

Also this is a great resource to read for anyone interested in it https://easypeasymethod.org/.. Never forget anons you're not pathetic for getting addicted it happens to the best of us.

>>12234550
Great job my man and never look back, i sure as hell didn't.

>>12235863
I obviously exagerated but you know what I meant. Everyone has a different brain so you don't have any way to know for sure how long will it take. And since fantasizing activates the pathways and still triggers dopamine in the reward circuit, then I'd suggest to practice refocusing your attention into something else every time you find yourself with those thoughts. Of course you won't be able to "never" fantasize right away. But practice makes everything easier.

I use this method: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting-accounts/rebooting-accounts-page-1/1-year-a-simple-tip-which-will-guarantee-success/

In my opinion, getting addicted to porn is the wrong way to define this issue. The issue is that people desire sex and porn is the best thing if you dont have a wife or gf who will have sex with you. So if you are single, you are going to have these intense sexual desires without anyone to share them with. Thus, you are left with three options. One is to ignore your sexual desires and not masturbate at all, this is the hardest and almost goes against being human. The other is to masturbate but to only use your imagination. This was the norm for most of history. But now with porn, the third option, it is just too hard to resist being able to actually watch attractive people have sex while you masturbate. So it seems less of an addiction, but rather a natural desire.

I dislike this new trend of quitting things that have no tangible harm to your body.

"bro get off social media bro it causes anxiety bro"
"bro you gotta quit porn bro that shit turns you into a cuck bro"
"bro you gotta delete facebook and get off that computer and, like, go outside and experience the real world bro"

Just do what you want. If you want to spend hours vegging out on 4chan, then do it. Quit stressing yourself out by trying to change

>>12235902
this fetish manifested prior to me ever watching porn. Do you think that fetishes that manifested prior to porn will not have the same effect as those that were manifested after watching a lot of porn?

>>12235874
Kek. That's basically saying nofap works if you're willing to change your entire lifestyle and thought processes. Maybe the fact that a person has completely overhauled their lives is the cause for the change rather than some theory about dopamine reset?

>>12235879
Anything where you're impelled by spontaneous and irrational animal urges built on nothing by paired stimuli and associations, is inherently bad, especially considering it is a waste of time and doesn't lead to anything worthwhile. The will should be the fiat of higher intellect and thoughts, otherwise it is led from distraction to distraction and you go through life as a spectator rather than participant. You aren't going to make it but that was already clear when you said "ridiculously high standards".

>>12235914
social media is harmful though

>>12235922
So by that would oral sex with your wife would be inherently bad?

>>12235910
>nothing brings the mind down from its loftly heights as the fondling of women - st. Augustine
Both sex and masturbation are impediments to intellectual greatness.

>>12235934
Ya, I dont see why that should be the case. But you keep on believing that if you want.

>>12235939

>>12235918
Who knows? If the fetish appeared during your teenage years, then there's no way to prove it wasn't just a product of your developing brain in response to environmental cues. In that case porn would just have reinforced it and it may disappear after a while. Porn is the absolute opposite of a way to know what you really naturally like.

>>12235933
Yes.

>>12235956
So Feynman and Einstein are trash?

>>12235956
Right so what counts as intellectual genius to you? Because I could just start off listing married people who were influential philosophers or physicists/mathematicians

>>12235959
I know how it developed and porn had nothing to do with it, since its a fetish that is not really all that sexual desu

>>12235962
well then you have an utterly ridiculous worldview

>>12235836
can someone pls respond? I'm trying to cut down in stages, so I'd like to know which one I should give up first

>>12235918
For me my fetish did materialize when i was a young kid when i had a particularly embarrassing moment with me that stuck with me, i think thats the key thing something that made an impression with you as a kid. I believe they can be treated though but under the condition that you realize that the mind will find all sort of excuses to justify it and promptly deny them.

>>12235307
i agree porn is bad for you but this is full of false information

>>12235982
prolly rl porn is worse. But im not sure if wither are actually bad

>>12235983
this sounds like what I have. It manifested due to an insecurity I had as a child. That being said, I see no reason to get rid of it, due to it having no negative effect on me. It would be completely healthy to engage in this fetish between a husband and a wife, so its no problem

>>12235970
>how
I said when, not how. And it doesn't matter if it appeared prior to porn. Some kids develop fetishes that would go with time if they had not stumble into porn later. But I'm not saying fetishes are bad or anythng, unless it's really fucked up. If you want to keep it, be my guest. I just don't think they have any inhrent value. I'd rather find out how much my tastes really change after a few years of nofap.

>>12236002
>I just don't think they have any inherent value.
Enjoyment is not a value? Are you someone who thinks that sex should only be for impregnating?
>Some kids develop fetishes that would go with time if they had not stumble into porn later.
Based on what?

>>12235982
I don't think there's a safe way to quit it by cutting down. For me cold turkey was the only way. I failed. Then I tried again. Then I failed again. Until I did it.

>>12236010
>Enjoyment is not a value?
Enjoyment leads to maladaptive behaviors and isn't a rational end in itself otherwise there would be no reason not to do opiates as libitum.

>>12236016
what do you consider a rational end?

>>12235993
Honestly mine wasn't any insecurity but it does have a bad influence on me and luckily it's easy to deal with it, especially when i quit watching porn like a mongoloid.

I kinda have a hard time explaining it without giving away any details but the thing is strongly think they can be dealt with maybe even fully neutralizing them with enough effort but if they aren't dangerous to you or your personal life might as well ignore them and not indulge in them.

Using nofap or noporn to get rid of "fetishes" is nonsense. Ill just let everyone know, that being fascinated with a womans butt or boobs is considered a fetish. Do you really think that doing noporn will have you lose interest in boobs?

>>12236031
Using nofap in general is a terrible way of dealing with any sort of sexual addictions, it must be done gradually because of the mental addiction won't be never satisfied until it's fed aka the big monster as the PMO hackbook refers it. It must be done gradually and you must make peace with it.

>>12236060
Saying you have a sexual addiction is as silly as saying you have a breathing addiction

>>12236011
I've tried cold turkey and I just keep failing. How did you eventually get it to work?

>>12236010
>Enjoyment is not a value?
>Are you someone who thinks that sex should only be for impregnating?
Hard to tell. Define enjoyment? But even if it is for argument's sake: Is it really enjoyment if its arousal is influenced by a past experience or a cue? Why would I value something that I wouldn't like if I had never been subjected to a certain stimuli? I wouldn't dare to reach such conclusions. But I just think it's fun to question everything. Maybe that's something I subconsciously value.

>Based on what?
When the brain's developing it's way more sensitive to form long lasting pathways specially if they're related to the act of orgasming. That shit will fire up DeltaFosB and make sure you don't forget how good and important it feels so the more you engage in it, the more you'll want it eventually.

>>12236063
Yes because i absolutely must coom 6 times a day to porn i like this week then find something else to refresh the novelty in a never ending downwards spiral.

Not to say sex is bad and you have to stop cooming entirely but the main culprit is porn, think about it people are masturbating to other people having sex and tell me if it isn't pathetic. And don't play the "my body my choice." card because people are ha

I just started fapping to images instead of videos, then no images at all. Took three months and it was over.

>>12236076
Read a few books. Read a few sites.
Study the reasons why porn feels so arousing.
Ask myself the reasons I failed.
Write down what to do, why do it and how to do it. Basically just created a system for myself that makes me porn proof.

Here I'll point you on the right direction:
https://easypeasymethod.org/
https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/miscellaneous-resources/start-here-evolution-has-not-prepared-your-brain-for-todays-porn/
https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting-accounts/rebooting-accounts-page-1/1-year-a-simple-tip-which-will-guarantee-success/
https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting-porn-use-faqs/

This one is for stopping wet dreams mostly but this is the advanced stage: https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/6-years-clean-rebooting-as-the-best-remedy.135983/

>>12236106
This one's a fine intro
https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/tools-for-change-recovery-from-porn-addiction/rebooting-advice-observations-from-successful-rebooters/a-complete-beginners-guide-to-nofap/

>>12235984
Prove it retard

>>12235770
>>12235768
>>12235765
he's 100% right, even alcohoolics and ex heroin/crack/meth addicts say jacking off to porn is harder to quit than their drugs.

Shit is hard wired in our genetics in our very core. Some of us respond more to visual stimuli and it's insane how hard it is to quit.
Some men never do quit btw, eternal coomers.

>>12235760
>5 times a day

>>12235914
>I dislike this new trend of quitting things that have no tangible harm to your body.
>harm can be only physical
>brain isn't part of your body
>neurosciences are a hoax
>social media aren't designed to become adictive
>smartphones and computers a can't be means for obtaining reward and cheap pleasure
>there's no difference between watching others fuck and thinking you're the one fucking
What else, bro?

>>12235914
This is what cope looks like.

>>12234513
As someone who's parents let a TV and computer raise him I can assure you all porn is destructive.

It was only the past 10 years I managed to turn my life around, TV and porn were the main things holding me back.

>>12234947
Money money money, no one is going to outlaw it.

People did a study on how circumcision causes long term psychological trauma in infants but they could not even publish their results. The system doesn't want to help or heal you it wants you to be reliant on it regardless of what sector we are referring to.

>>12234513
In theory this kind of makes sense, but it suffers from not having many studies or research to support the claims. It's based around an argument of desensitizing your dopamine receptors through frequent masturbation and pornography viewing. Again, makes sense on the surface but the brain is complicated. It also gets way into bro-tier science with stuff like semen-retention and 'reboots' and all this other crap.

I very rarely watch porn. Most of the times it's just jerking to fully clothed celebs.

Am I based or should I test my testosterone levels?

>>12238128
Any sexual stimuli is porn.

>>12235956
yet john von neumann grothendieck and a lot of other great scientists had wifes and von neumann was known to enjoy partying and alcohol as well as young ladies

>>12237162
That's a Russian on the left, they did not participate in the normandy operation.

>be me
>masters graduate with good money and job
>spend probably an hour and a half a week watching porn/having sex with girlfriend

Give me one good reason to stop.

>>12238529
You already know the reason, otherwise you wouldn't have lied about an hour and a half

>>12237162
>no one is going to outlaw it
Yeah but even if they did, I'm afraid it wouldn't be enough to keep people from consuming it. The best course of action I see would be to educate the people about it.

Here's an article that states that teaching young kids how the brain works and reacts to porn has been pretty fruitful: https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/rebooting-porn-use-faqs/education-porn/

>>12235020
Addiction isn't defined by how much you consume, but whether you're able to stop.

ITT: things that never happened.
Just fap whenever you want who cares.

>>12234513
It's an addiction, it's real. But right now, being stuck in my room all day, doing nofap or noporn s just an unreasonable sink of my will power. I need the will power to do other more productive things and so as long porn does not interfere too much, I'll deal with it later.

>>12235760
>dripping with precum and constantly aroused
I usually manage to keep myself from porn for a few days when I reach that state but it always ends with me waking up someday on full ape-mode. Heart beating fast, full body shaking. I can't listen to reason. It looks like I'm possessed or on auto-pilot. All I can think of is "porn, porn, porn." I search for porn like my life depended on it. Only after orgasm I regain my senses and I wonder what the fuck just happened.

>>12239045
>will power
Willpower itself is not enough. You have to brainwash yourself with information that explains not only why porn is bad but also why porn provides no benefits whatsoever. And that itself is also not enough. You also have to search methods to deal with fantasizing and urges. I heard meditation helps.

>need to study
>feel horny
>rub a quick one out
>still end up procrastinating on the chans

>>12239058
willpower is a meme. If you want to do something enough, you will do it. People who think they lack willpower to do something in reality just lack enough desire

I was able to stop masturbating and watching porn for two months now just due to going through an extreme period of depression. Now I dont feel like masturbating anymore because it reminds me of that time.

>>12235770
thanks for proving your a retard

>>12235984
nigga doesn't know abut prolactin and xenoestrogen fuck me your stupid

Serious question that may sound dumb.
I have tons of nudes of my wife. I love cooming to them. Will that be as damaging as actual porn?

>>12239462
no

>>12239462
It's the same thing and you are instilling an onanism habit.

>>12239462
>wife
Eww, you sound old.

>>12236078
>if I had never been subjected to a certain stimuli?
First time I saw boobs (that I remember), I got a boner, if that's what you mean. I had cross dressing and BDSM fantasies long before I knew what either were. I grew up in the 70s and started fapping in the 80s, long before internet porn was a thing.

>>12239785
Have you ever considered taking a handgun, pressing it against your skull, and blowing your brains out? Because you should. Imagine being a worthless 50+ year old rationalizing his fetishes on this website, ad hoc coping that they're innate. I would kill myself before I became you, that's for damned certain.

>>12239992
>I would kill myself before I became you, that's for damned certain.
Yeah but you wouldn't though, because your inherent threshold for deciding to kill yourself would prevent you from reaching that point. Were you ever him, you'd be too far gone to care.

>>12240090
>you'd be too far gone to care.

>>12239462
if you haven't had problems with normal porn, of course not. You're married and you're scared of masturbation? I can understand the incels here, you should know better

>>12239785

Unless you're jacking off 3+ times a day you'll be fine. Stop falling for nofap horseshit.

>>12241245
Hi Rabbi

>>12241245
I did it once a week when I was teenager (hormones fueled). Then it became once a day by 20. Then it became 3+ a day by 30. Indulging it only makes the urge grow stronger and waste brain memory by putting pornogeaphic stimuli in it which replays in your dreams instead of higher thoughts about problem solving for science. It will make any great person mediocre and your post is just a cope for accepting this addiction in your life.

>>12234513
Watched the 2nd link

How do I fix my dopamine? Or better yet, how do I trick my reward system to get a dopamine spike from doing useful things?

I did nofap for a week just now and women didn't notice me more. Actually less, so yeah nofap is bullshit anyway.

>>12234789
How the fuck could something so simple be your 'top priority for 3 years'?? You stop looking at porn and your brain chemistry normalizes in a few weeks...

>>12242085
Not him but it takes years to eliminate this habit. See the bottom part here for an explanation >>12235760

>>12242048
coomer here
what in the absolute fuck are you talking

I was born with phimosis and i had to get the cutty cutty so i have that - meaning less pleasure because of the lack of the skin
I also have one of those non-sexual fetishes - i coom almost 3 times a day every day - i have maybe once coomed to a picture of a naked women lets say just that
i can still have girlfriends and normal sex
And i dont fucking have sexual dreams almost never
You can be deviant all you want and still function normally

>>12242048
>and waste brain memory by putting pornogeaphic stimuli in it which replays in your dreams instead of higher thoughts about problem solving for science
I'll be honest I can't tell teen shitposting from genuine retardedness anymore, maybe I'm too old

>>12242083
>doing it for the women
never going to make it

>>12242089
What is retarded about that? Dreams serve two purposes, memory consolidation and problem solving. The more pornographic material you consume, the more it will intrude and thus potentially impair dreaming's more important functions.

>>12242088
>functiin "normally"
Yes, that's what "mediocre" means, smoothbrain.

>>12242093
It sounds reasonable when you put it that way but it's never happened to me and I'm a certified coomer. Literally the only time I had lewd dreams was when I stopped fapping during my college years.

I'm overcome with extreme anxiety after fapping maybe even to the extent of a panic attack and I have no idea why.

>>12235910
There's a 4th option, which actually should've been the 1st
Go out and find a person to share it with

>>12236106
not the anon who asked, but thank you for compiling those links

Masturbated 4 times today. I need drugs to stop this. I've had enough.

>>12234513
Been a coomer for a long long time. I'm sure my brain has already received permanent damage. I'm an autist so even if I wasn't a porn addicted faggot I'd just be equally as terrible but in different ways.

excessive escapism of any kind is harmful. masturbate sometimes but if it feels like a problem, it might be a problem.
while i can't really sympathize with you guys, it is actually really interesting to see how many of you self-profess to be unable to control yourselves. i am not free of sin, i take amphetamine pretty regularly, but i've never found a compulsion in masturbation.

>>12242093
I hardly have dreams in the traditional sense. I mostly consider it daydreaming or as I like to call them "directed fantasies." Now a lot of them are coomer but many more are simply the mind doodles of a autistic faggot who has consumed too much genre fiction and history books and that sort. Thoughts about shitty paracosms and adolescnet navel gazing. When I have organic dreams, dreams that come naturally when I sleep, they tend to be weird. A few days ago I dreamed that I was in the woods and going to places through clearings, museums and what not only for the end of the dream to reveal that all of the places were hallucinations and I was still in the woods and that I would die there.

Since I on /pol/ I can't stop watching BBC porn

>>12244455
kek good one

>>12235968
whenever I'm writing or doing anything good improvement to some work of mine I do not feel the urge to copulate.
So yes, one can be married but constantly copulating is not some sort of positive action.

Cooming daily is good for your health.
Keeps the balls working and kills stress.
Don't fall for religious faggotry pseudoscience.

>>12246045
>Cooming daily is good for your health.
Wrong, raises a number of inflammatory marker.
>Keeps the balls working and kills stress.
It increases stress, which is why cortisol is elevated from and following sexual activity.
>Don't fall for religious faggotry pseudoscience.
Religious imbeciles pretend the world and body are perfect, so you're in the same league with this braindead post.

>>12246045
cope at its finest

Pure self help book. I prefer to take my advice regarding how to accord with the sexual tensions and energies in one's sense of self from more intelligent writers, like Nietzsche.

Weaponized sexual tension is one of the most powerful and most intuitive mechanisms of the human psyche.

>>12235685
Based

>>12246867
>It increases stress, which is why cortisol is elevated from and following sexual activity.
Where are you getting this bullshit from? No rise in cortisol. It does raise oxytocin, as does exercise. Are you against exercise?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1743609517314431

>>12247647
Simplistic reductionist argument. Ejaculation clearly elevates cortisol.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/402399
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2509408

>>12247659
I give you a study on humans showing it doesn't, and you give me studies on stallions and rhesus monkeys. I'm going to side with the human study. Again, are you against exercise, which raises cortisol and oxytocin?