/sci/ - Science & Math

To me it looks like they made a disease out of being comfortable being alone.

>>12009174
They make a disease out of anything that isn't normal, that's the absolute state of modern psychology. Worst part is that in many cases medication is made available to "treat" these "conditions". This has the effect of 12 year olds getting the equivilent of crack cocaine just so they can do their homework and pay attention in class in the case of ADHD.

>>12009236
The "cocaine" works differently if your brain actually requires it. Thinking a non-ADHD person taking the drug is safe is why it gets a bad reputation.

Really tiresome..

>>12009931
>The "cocaine" works differently if your brain actually requires it.
No, it doesn't work differently. Amphetamines enhance focus even in healthy individuals. That's how you know it's not a proper cure. Also, long term use of ADHD drugs actually worsen the symptoms.

>>12009174
Autistic people are literally incapable of properly interacting with other humans, it's not a choice. Many autistic people don't want to be alone.

>>12010319
If a thing relieves a symptom allowing someone to live as if they were NT in the same conditions, why isn't it viable? If coke works better for adhd than Ritalin with few side effects, coke is the better treatment. No med is ever a "cure" for anything, anyway.

>>12009931
Has it ever been demonstrated neurologically that stim meds work differently in dx'd add/adhd people than NTs?

>>12009174
looks like you're a coping autist.

>>12009171
I posit that autistic people are an entire different hominid species all together and their existence calls into question the definition of a species and what it means to be human (like niggers didn't already).

>>12010403
Autistic people are normal, it's the majority of west and south europeans who are clearly abnormal. (i.e. lack genuine emotions) You can tell by the psychopath stare being the expected norm there.

>>12009171
is this why trannies are autistic

>>12009171
>Another autism thread.
>>12010353
>Autistic people are literally incapable of properly interacting with other humans
Yes and if you're getting called a retard, getting beaten up or called a burden that should have died by normal people, you shouldn't wonder why these people stopped initiating contact.

>>12009171

>>12010361
Why would you want to "cure" ADHD anyway? Usually it's just misdiagnosed for some kid who likes to run around. Just because someone is different doesn't mean it's bad. Even worse, these people are the types to talk about "diversity is our strength" when they won't tolerate any behavior they don't think is normal

>>12011966
There is a group of people who compkain I don't hang out with them, yet evey time I tried they treated me so awful I just don't want to see them anymore. Yet they keep complaining that I "isolated myself".

>>12011966
>>Another autism thread.
this is *chan, newfag. they are all *tism threads.

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>>12011966
>Yes and if you're getting called a retard, getting beaten up or called a burden that should have died by normal people, you shouldn't wonder why these people stopped initiating contact.
Oddly enough those that isolate themselves from society are Schizoids, but the DSM puts these as exclusive conditions rather than possible comorbids.

>>12014910
>but the DSM puts these as exclusive conditions rather than possible comorbids.
You would think so since theoretically (according to D*M-V) one should get diagnosed with sperginess in his childhood while only getting the schizo paper if one is already an adult. But the tons of adults who get asperger diagnosis and the fact that Asperger's also used to be called Infantile Schizoid Personality disorder really blurs the line.

>>12014910
They are just some of the possible diagnoses for those who are not brain damaged. Everyone else is. That is why hhe virus exists, it's going to kill everyone else because it uses the same flaw that ruins your brains against you.

>>12014910
They are just some of the possible labels for those who are not brain damaged. Everyone else is. That is why the virus exists, it's going to kill everyone else because it uses the same flaw that ruins your brains to kill the rest of the body.

>>12009171
>Is autism genetic?

well, there are several genes linked to intelligence, so I'm guessing they found a few medical ways to attack that portion of the population, you know....

>>12010361
Amping someone up to the point where they act differently isn't the same as correcting the cause of them acting incorrectly in the first place

>>12009171

>>12017529
Define 'acting incorrectly'.

>>12014910
Autism usually presents itself in early childhood, while schizoid shows up later in life.

>>12009171
I think you can take best genetics and train it to be autist.

>>12009171
getting kicked in the stomach by a tiny foot must hurt

>>12009171

>>12009174
>>12009236
redpilled

No, it's a developmental disorder, not genetic. It's basically "you were programmed wrong by your parents and society during the most crucial years for your developing brain and now you're not normal". It has a genetic linkage simply due to the flawed nurture conditions being ever present in these families.

>>12009171

>>12020506
>No, it's a developmental disorder, not genetic. It's basically "you were programmed wrong by your parents and society during the most crucial years for your developing brain and now you're not normal"
Really? So it could be fixed no in adulthood? or at least before 25?

>>12020905
It's the lack of brain damage that normies suffer. Taking some neurotoxin that ruins your synapses shoild make you 'normal' but you don'r want to.

>>12020905
It's the lack of brain damage that normies suffer. Taking some neurotoxin that ruins your synapses shoild make you 'normal' but you don't want that.

>>12009171
Partly, but as with any phenotype it isn't purely based upon your genotype, but rather the resulting expression from the interaction of your genotype with the environment.

>>12021063
>Partly, but as with any phenotype it isn't purely based upon your genotype, but rather the resulting expression from the interaction of your genotype with the environment.
So what sort of environment best suits the average male child with level 1 asd? Is it a mature and homeschooled environment where kids are taught to socialise like adults or is it a more relaxed and independent environment like the school system where there is less outside control when it comes to socialising?

>>12020905
No, but technically yes. I compared it to being programmed but it's more akin to setting firmware or a ROM chip. Data is permanently stored on them and they cannot be changed afterwards unless you "flash" them (you wipe them). You can create programs in RAM that help, but ultimately your base ROM is fucked. The developing years of the brain are so vital that they literally create its being. People who have that process ruined, their brains are permanently altered. See the Romanian orphans study from 1980 (not even a study, we simply got lucky to learn from such a tragedy).

My brother has autism. Genetically, he is perfectly normal, he is simply "weird". My abusive father would beat him and lock him in the basement whenever he cried or had a problem. He did this often and my father continued to do this all throughout his early years.The result is that he was affected by the isolation and developed improperly. The only physical thing wrong with him is that he has "Minor Physical Anomalies". All autistic people suffer from this to varying degrees, but basically adult development is impacted by autistic mannerisms and behavior, resulting in "retard face". These deformities are not present at birth. This is a big red herring and it leads people to assume it's a genetic condition, but they're wrong.

>>12021575
>I compared it to being programmed but it's more akin to setting firmware or a ROM chip. Data is permanently stored on them and they cannot be changed afterwards unless you "flash" them (you wipe them).
I have noticed this in normies, autists seem to be immune to this. You got it the wrong way round.
Normie parents hate their children, murders are common. You got it the wrong way round.

>>12009171
autism is designed to make sure the spoiled brainlets of the uber wealthy never have to compete for the top spots.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IkVB70a-3Vk

>>12021575
>My brother has autism. Genetically, he is perfectly normal, he is simply "weird". My abusive father would beat him and lock him in the basement whenever he cried or had a problem. He did this often and my father continued to do this all throughout his early years.The result is that he was affected by the isolation and developed improperly. The only physical thing wrong with him is that he has "Minor Physical Anomalies". All autistic people suffer from this to varying degrees, but basically adult development is impacted by autistic mannerisms and behavior, resulting in "retard face". These deformities are not present at birth. This is a big red herring and it leads people to assume it's a genetic condition, but they're wrong.
Where do you go if you want to read more on this specifically causing autism? Is it just extreme negative emotion during childhood regardless of situations? So this activates the autism

Also
>No, but technically yes. I compared it to being programmed but it's more akin to setting firmware or a ROM chip. Data is permanently stored on them and they cannot be changed afterwards unless you "flash" them (you wipe them). You can create programs in RAM that help, but ultimately your base ROM is fucked.
So these processes would be cognitive/REBT therapies? And learned knowledge of adult socialisation etc

The base ROM means how psychologically resilient you are and how naturally you feel out other people right? Is it just having a permanently stunted emotional intelligence?

Can drugs like cannabis activate autism if fuelled by abuse?
Can shrooms reset your ROM and make you psychologically resilient? Or will it mainly just give you HPPD and more problems with the dose required?

>>12021575
What does it mean if you were able to make eye contact with your peers when you were 3-19 but now you can't aged 20-23?

>>12021575
>The behavioral symptoms of autism spectrum disorder (ASD) often appear early in development. Many children show symptoms of autism by 12 months to 18 months of age or earlier. Some early signs of autism include: Problems with eye contact.
So this is false? How can abuse cause autism in someone as young as 18 months?

>>12021592
If you see it that way then sure, but humans are programmed regardless of who does it. If not your parents, then society, if not society, then nature. If a human were to be raised in the wild and assuming they don't die somehow, they would be like a more retarded version of Tarzan. But yes you are correct that humans program their children to be how they want and to fit in a certain "box", if you will. Autistic people were still programmed, just "improperly".

>>12021718
The brain still develops all throughout your life. This is why people you might have been friends with a long time ago could be entirely people when you meet them today, because they are different people. "You" have changed to have problems with eye contact, for whatever reason -Probably isolation or "cabin fever". Simply do it more and it should go away, the brain can change much easier with age, albeit it becomes more stubborn, but regardless I believe something like that developed past 19 can be changed, much like a sexual fetish you got from pornography.

>>12021723
Go take "Child Psychology", otherwise known as "Lifespan Psychology", it is one of the few credible psychology sectors that actually are grounded in hard sciences. I took it in college and I was surprised none of it was taught in core education. But yes, human babies are like AI sponges. They soak up every little bit of information from all of their senses they possibly can, from the warmth from their mother, the demeanor of their father, the smell of their homes, the color of the ceiling above their crib, the bumps they feel in the womb, literally everything, and all of it comes together to make "you".

Autism can easily be developed from any point from pregnancy thereon to maybe 3-7. We still don't know the exact ranges, but we mostly know there is a cutoff point where children become sentient enough to "think for themselves".

>>12009171

It's caused by overbearing mothers looking for anything to blame but themselves for their fucking dumb shit eating spawn

>>12022001
I think that is the core difference between autistic people and normies. Autists would figure things out if you left them in the jungle. Normies would do nothing without having someone else to copy.
>But yes you are correct that humans program their children to be how they want and to fit in a certain "box", if you will.
I didn't say that.

>>12021707
//Your questions are shortened for space
>So these processes ... help autism?
Yes, therapy, specialized education, and proper socialization. That's frankly all we can do, sadly, as you can't "wipe" humans. Even if we did, I don't believe human minds would go through the same process of hyper development that children do. For example, I believe a 30 year old that had his mind wiped would turn into a vegetable.

The most we can do for it besides that is simply....drugs. We can use drugs to chemically affect an autistic person's brain and curb their behavior to how we would like it. Many autistic people are on anti-anxiety medication for that reason, because their "different" brain has very poor ability to process their emotions (See "Gilbert Grape", a great representation of how they would handle stress). Many would say this is unethical, but it is effective. Unlike the normal argument used in the case against drugs to "cure" depression, autistic people quite literally don't have the ability to process those emotions, as they will usually react in very dangerous ways to them; they wouldn't have had the ability to fix them without the drugs. Anything further into that argument delves into morality.

>The base ROM ... emotional intelligence?
Yes, it is permanently stunted. There are things about "you" that are permanently set in stone, mostly functions you don't think about.

>Can drugs ... by abuse?
I'm not sure, I haven't heard of anything like that, but abuse of any kind is the biggest cause.

>Can shrooms... required?
No, it cannot reset your ROM, it will do simply what you just said, affect your RAM and give you more problems.

>Where to read more about?
Scientific published research -Both modern studies and famous classical studies (Romanian Orphans, also check out our experiments on teaching monkeys how to speak), study Child Psychology, read books, talk to autistic people, and there are even some okay videos on Youtube.

>>12022140
Normies don't have emotions. It's something much more than how you contort your face.

On a side note, I forgot to mention that for those of you who are reading further into what I said (That early cognitive development affects humans later), yes, that means that just about everything affects your mentality and positive/negative feedback loops are absolutely true. People who claim to be affected by their previous failures are correct in their assumptions, albeit, these are fundamentally different from foundational development and can actually be changed, but they still function in a similar way.

>>12022091
>I think that is the core difference between autistic people and normies. Autists would figure things out if you left them in the jungle. Normies would do nothing without having someone else to copy.
This implies there is a genetic difference between autists and normies, and frankly from what we currently know, this is simply cope and you're wrong -Could be true, we don't know yet. Yes, that means if you took an autist and imagined what he would be like in an alternate reality where he had a different upbringing, he would be a normie.

All autists are merely "failed" humans, according to society's agenda, but I believe society is fucking retarded and autistic people are quite literally the indicator (Bridge) that will merge humanity with machines as per our next step of evolution.

>I didn't say that.
You implied it, unless you were trying to say something I couldn't understand from your comments on how wrong it is for people to program their children.

>>12022140
>because their "different" brain has very poor ability to process their emotions
So wouldn't testosterone during puberty give them more emotional control?

>>12021575
>You can create programs in RAM that help, but ultimately your base ROM is fucked.
Suggesting a one-to-one correspondence between the brain and a computer.
>The only physical thing wrong with him is that he has "Minor Physical Anomalies". All autistic people suffer from this to varying degrees
Not supported by research. Physical anomalies also don't give rise to autism.
>>12022001
Again, the assumption that your personality and both intellectual and emotional capability is solely determined by your environment is not supported by research.
>>12022140
>autistic people quite literally don't have the ability to process those emotions, as they will usually react in very dangerous ways to them.
Again not supported by research.

This poster is full of shit.

>>12021575
>You can create programs in RAM that help, but ultimately your base ROM is fucked.
Suggesting a one-to-one correspondence between the brain and a computer.
>The only physical thing wrong with him is that he has "Minor Physical Anomalies". All autistic people suffer from this to varying degrees
Not supported by research. Physical anomalies also don't give rise to autism.
>>12022001
Again, the assumption that your personality and both intellectual and emotional capability is solely determined by your environment is not supported by research.
>>12022140
>autistic people quite literally don't have the ability to process those emotions, as they will usually react in very dangerous ways to them.
Again not supported by research.

Instead of an ad hominem attack, I decided to show the problems which your theories don't solve.

>>12022208
Considering any theory of imprinting or/and environmental impact, one would assume that the trajectory which describes autism in terms of the severity of its symptomes can be significantly affected by a change in the environment. This is too some extent true in terms of that autistic features may strengthen or weaken depending on the social environment. In general however, all early intervention programs only show limited success. Autistic infants that have been treated since their second year or so don't fare that much better than those who weren't treated at all. The improvement is often deliberately exaggerated so as to sell the product. Many autistic people also show a complete failure in generalizing the skills those programs were supposed to teach them. Thus I really question whether or not it is an issue of environment. I also assume that children aren't fixed by age of two or three so the fact that many of these people seem to be stuck indicates at least to some extent a genetic cause.

>>12022182
>You implied it,
No I didn't. Quote the relevant part.

>>12022199
>Suggesting a one-to-one correspondence between the brain and a computer.
It's a metaphor to help you understand, metaphors are never literal "one-to-one" correspondences.
>Not supported by research. Physical anomalies also don't give rise to autism.
Strawman, you misread and said my claim backwards. Autism causes small physical anomalies and that is not a claim; we have heavy evidence and correlation to support that.
>Again, the assumption that your personality and both intellectual and emotional capability is solely determined by your environment is not supported by research.
I did not say that, I merely said it was a major factor of human development and causes many of the developmental disorders that we know of (That's quite literally what a developmental disorder is, which is what autism is classified as).
>Again not supported by research.
It is supported by research, but you strawmanned me again because you're a fucking reddit midwit who's butthurt for some reason. Within the scope of normal human behavior, most autistic people cannot process their emotions in "healthy" ways (They can literally react to them, but they will do so in "harmful" ways). That is a fact, and if you disagree you'd have to argue why the entire collective industry that researches and works with autistic people consider drugs as a valid treatment of autism.

From your post, you clearly don't even have experience with autistic people. You probably are some reddit /pol/tard faggot speaking out of his ass about topics he feels he needs to voice his awful and uneducated opinions about because he's a fucking loser and one time he watched a Chris-chan video on YouTube so now he's suddenly a hot expert on autism.

Buy some rope, find the nearest ceiling fan you can find, and then off yourself to save the world having to hear your mental diarrhea.

>>12022221
Normies just generally refuse to interact with autists. (And usually in malicious ways if they do) there is nothing you could teach anyone to fix that, you would have to fix the normies, and they will be gone in several years anyway.

>>12022208
I see you deleted your original post so I did you the favor of finding it for you and reposting it.

This >>12022235 is me.

>>12022229
You cannot quote an implication, because implications are not literally stated. I could quote what you wrote but it's there, go up and read it, I took the implication from your whole post. Just forget it, you didn't mean what I thought you meant so there's no point in arguing further.

>>12022235
>Autism causes small physical anomalies
Now, it's something you're born with because otherwise it's not really making any sense. But throughout your posts, you implied the opposite.
>we have heavy evidence and correlation to support that.
Dysfunctions of organs and other comorbid health problems is not a "physical abnormality" per se. Removing those dysfunctions does not or only improves some autistic traits.
>(That's quite literally what a developmental disorder is, which is what autism is classified as)
Down syndrome's also classified as a developmental disorder despite being clearly genetic in origin.
>I merely said it was a major factor of human development and causes many of the developmental disorders that we know of
The funny thing about any mental disorder is that the environment isn't actually that important. People predisposed to mental illness will most likely develop them anyway.
>Some rambling and ad hominem attacks.
>most autistic people cannot process their emotions in "healthy" ways
That is true but is not restricted to autism.
>That is a fact, and if you disagree you'd have to argue why the entire collective industry that researches and works with autistic people consider drugs as a valid treatment of autism.
There's no drug that "cures" autism. There's drugs that cure some side effects like anxiety or even hypersensitivity but autism in general has been shown to be utterly resistant to any chemical intervention.
>you clearly don't even have experience with autistic people
I don't need to because I have an autism diagnosis.

Obviously, you have constructed this whole bogus theory simply to cope with your severely? autistic brother.
>>12022254
I deleted it because I reckoned that the insult was unnecessary.

>>12022254
>You cannot quote an implication, because implications are not literally stated.
You can quote the part that implies so.
>I could quote what you wrote but it's there, go up and read it, I took the implication from your whole post.
That just seems completely unreasonable, because I said autists are immune to that.
>Just forget it, you didn't mean what I thought you meant so there's no point in arguing further.
You could still do it to show you are not being dishonest or mentally ill.

>>12022240
People prefer to interact with those that are similar to them. And their emotional and social responses are specialized in eliciting adequate responses in the other like-minded person. Because autistic people have abnormal or idiosyncratic social responses and emotional needs, people are less likely to interact with them. To non-autistic people, autistic people appear aloof, disinterested, anxious etc. Usually accompanied by a generally bad impression due to several factors (bad grooming may be one of them). Research implies that autistic people interact better with other autistic people but the research was mostly restricted to aspergians. So, we can assume that the social problems that arise in autism are actually dualistic problems. Autistics struggle with non-autistic people and non-autistic struggle with autistic people. Therefore, I regard "pure" autism ignoring the comorbities that are often conflated into an autism diagnosis to be a distinctive neuropsychological makeup.

>>12022361
>their emotional and social responses are specialized in eliciting adequate responses in the other like-minded person.
----->>>12022150

>>12022290
So you're autistic, deceptive, have no professional education, yet you think you have merit on making grandiose claims about autism and how all of my societal logic is wrong, got it.

>you have constructed this whole bogus theory
What bogus theory you fucking moron? We treat autism with drugs; besides special education and therapy, that's literally the best treatment we have for it at the moment, just as we use chemotherapy to treat cancer. I did not say it was a "cure", so what the fuck are you quoting? You said I said it was a, "cure", but I do not see that in my post. I never once said it was the cure for autism, not once.

>I'm autistic therefor I am the most qualified to talk on autistic persons' behalves
No you most certainly are not. It is in fact that you have autism that you need to let other normal people help you with your condition. We live in the normal world, not the autists world. You cannot function to the same accord as someone else. You have advantages in some ways, but disadvantaged in many more to the point where you are classified as mentally handicapped.

I'm not going to sit here and type away all day arguing with you about trivial things you may not like from what I say. The bottom line is that all you're really advocating for -from what I can tell- is the disapproval and deconstruction of our current systems of knowing and handling autism, and I'm saying that doing so is only hurting autistic people. No, we do not know everything about it, but for right now we 'do know' quite a bit about it and we have ways to help autistic people live in our society which is not meant for them. The quality of life for autistic people has only improved with time and it will continue to do so thanks to our efforts of studying it. You are talking out of your ass and running your mouth saying that all the things I said which can be found in a simple google search on autism, are all wrong and I'm just "coping". Again, find the nearest ceiling fan.

>>12022726
What drugs treat autism?

>>12022737
there aren’t any lol

>>12022737
>>12022753
3 seconds in Google.

>>12022737
>>12022753
>>12022774
and just another 3 seconds to click on the very first link.

That's the last post from me. You obviously spoke up about something you know nothing about but now you're not willing to simply back down and admit you were wrong out of stubbornness. One last time just in case you forgot: buy some rope, nearest ceiling fan, and you should know the rest by now. Home Depot sells all the rope you'll need. Take care.

No it's not. It's caused by vaccines.

>>12022789
Self hating autist detected

>>12022726
>yet you think you have merit on making grandiose claims about autism and how all of my societal logic is wrong, got it.
This comment brought to you by a guy who also posted comments such as:
>No, it cannot reset your ROM, it will do simply what you just said, affect your RAM and give you more problems.
>Autism causes small physical anomalies and that is not a claim
>because you're a fucking reddit midwit who's butthurt for some reason
>You probably are some reddit /pol/tard faggot speaking out of his ass about topics he feels he needs to voice his awful and uneducated opinions about because he's a fucking loser and one time he watched a Chris-chan video on YouTube so now he's suddenly a hot expert on autism.
>We treat autism with drugs
As pointed out by others, we don't. We treat some comorbid disabilities or singular aspects which you routinely conflate or equate with autism.
>It is in fact that you have autism that you need to let other normal people help you with your condition.
Isn't that the point of any diagnosis to let people help you?
>is the disapproval and deconstruction of our current systems of knowing and handling autism
That's the point. You're posting some schizo post completely out of touch with anything that modern research tells us. You have also contradicted yourself numerous times already. By now, I'm not even sure whether or not you're simply baiting.
>Again, find the nearest ceiling fan.
That stopped being funny the second time you posted it.

>>12022877
All I did was to lay out a neutral summarization of what autism is and what it entails and anyone can check on my claims and see that they're actually backed by research. The dualistic empathy problem, gastrointestinal issues, the genetic component of autism and autistic traits. I never spoke in terms of better or worse and it's obviously clear that I do not represent any person except me which is true regardless of the condition or illness we're speaking of.

You however introduced a completely new theory implicitely stating that autism is the result of childhood trauma and neglection which blames parents for an ultimately purely cognitive issue.

This will be my last post for today so feel free to rage at me.

>>12022726
Not the same anon but:
>We treat autism with drugs
There are no drugs for autism.
>just as we use chemotherapy to treat cancer.
Chemotherapy is meant to help the patient, and give them a higher chance of survival. When autists are prescribed drugs, it is to sedate them, so that they cannot resist being handled.
>It is in fact that you have autism that you need to let other normal people help you with your condition.
You are a retard; it's your problem you cannot understand more intelligent people and you are not helping them by making them behave more like retards as well. They resist and get angry at you because your help is not helpful.

>>12022774
>>12022789
Autism speaks is a hate group. They are not a genuine support group.

>>12009171
No psychological diagnosis is genetic because psychometric are not built on or supported by genetic measurements.

>>12010353
>properly
>”incapable”

I can only laugh at you for being so narrowminded.
You have no idea what it’s like being on the spectrum

>>12024606
You can seriously interact with them properly after years of trial and error? You probably still fail the autard test when spending prolonged time around them

>>12025119
>autard test
There is no such a thing.

>>12025151
No, what he probably means is, that people eventually get the impression that you're "off" and will start avoiding you. And the things which make you "off" or "weird" are often very subtle. Things you can't even control consciously because we're talking here about very small movements of the face or the body in the range of milimeters that last only for 100 to 200 milliseconds. For example, many people will show very subtle signs of disgust when confronted by homosexuals because that's their natural subconscious response even if they insist that they are tolerant people.

>>12025186
You mean that normies hate autists? We are not in disagreement about that, then.

>>12009236
Easier to pay attention if they weren't trying to brainwash you in a dry air environment with flickering fluorescent lamps.

>>12025119
>>12025186
>>12025151
>>12025229
To a certain extent, yes I can.
I got into acting for a couple years (theater and even some small paid film roles) & the combination of that, plus lots of trial & error has allowed me to blend in much more effectively.
I basically keep my mouth shut unless I’m fairly confident about what I’m going to say too.

I know at least superficially this works. My bosses (amazon warehouse) have been training me on how to become a manager because they think I’d be good for it.

Not that I really want a corporate job like that, but I’m not gonna fight being in their good graces.
In addition, there’s a handful of VERY attractive women who are very flirtatious with me. Now granted, my elevated work status and naturally gifted good looks help in this department (and being mysterious in the eyes of women is rarely a bad thing) although I’m not really interested in a relationship right now between time invested in work/school.
(Though I did date a coworker I met here for 6 months before breaking up with her for seemingly being a gas lighter).

I’m not going to deny in my 1-on-1 interactions, my strangeness is more obvious. I have some work friends, but the smaller the group interactions we have (and the more frequent) the more apparent it is of my relative lack of interest in small talk beyond what is really polite.

Now granted there’s some people I have had good conversations with, but they’re mostly other STEM kids who enjoy talking about science/the world/universe like I do.

I will add, it was not that long ago (1 year ago even) where I was not like this, I had no direction, and essentially closed myself off due to depression.
But ever since getting out of the negative situation I was in, and finding a purpose, things have been radically different.

>>12025827
How much sleep do you get each night, what is your iq and did you have high negative emotion during your childhood to the point where it caused you to hit yourself on the head aged 6-8 and develop severe physical effects of anxiety aged 13?

>>12025841
Anywhere from 5-8 hours on an average night. Probably around 7 most the time.

IQ test I got when I was diagnosed with HFA/Aspergers at the age of 19 said I was 117.

Can’t say I had that, although 3rd-8th grade my parents homeschooled me, and than my high-school career was largely spent at a small (180 kids) charter type school with 4 day 4 hour attendance where you needed a B to pass classes & had to largely work on your own (class sizes were always >20 though).

While I do think this held me back in some respects and required me to figure out “the real world” a little late in life, it did give me a relatively happy childhood.

>>12025870
Meant to put <20*
Small class sizes

>>12025870
>Can’t say I had that, although 3rd-8th grade my parents homeschooled me, and than my high-school career was largely spent at a small (180 kids) charter type school with 4 day 4 hour attendance where you needed a B to pass classes & had to largely work on your own (class sizes were always >20 though).
So it was a very mature and safe environment to socialise in and learn to communicate with others as a future adult? It doesn't sound like you were held back in this respect

>>12025870
Meant to put <20*
Small class sizes

>>12025877
I did get kicked out my senior year for slashing my ex’s tires/tried to set her car on fire since she cheated on me while I was passed out in the same room with my supposed best friend.
Took two years of court programs to get a clear record and not become a felon.
Also how I got diagnosed in the first place though.

I do feel had I been more exposed to the shiftiness of people in say middle school I may not have had this experience as an adult where it was harder to fix.
But at the same time, I don’t know for certain if the trade offs that would entail would’ve fucked me over in some other way.

Relationships have always been my weak point, & honestly until the aforementioned one I had at my current job, they’d all kind of destroyed me when they ended.

My perspective is different now to be sure, so I treat them much different.
But I wonder if I had got a head start in that department if it wouldn’t have saved me many growing pains.

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>>12025877
Not the same anon. Why are you asking such strange questions?

>>12025919
I want to know how much of your core being you can change as an adult my simply "thinking yourself out of your problems" and changing your environment and life for the better and waiting for the core change to happen
Isn't a lot of it fixed?
Like what separates pic related from the average person, isn't there the same difference between the average person and the losers of society who just seem lazy and indolent?
>>12025918
Ah one of the "chad" autists I see
Thoughts on catboykami?

>>12025941
Always seen myself as more of a sigma than an alpha. Granted they’re just a bunch of bullshit labels anyways lol, but my anti-authoritarian/non-conformist streak kinda sets me apart just in of itself.

Had to look up the dude. Seems to basically be a glorified streaming troll? Somewhat amusing to read about, I’m rather non-plussed one way or the other.

No doubt the butthurt he causes from people who doubtlessly take him too seriously is funny but I’ve never been much into watching streamers of any sort.

>>12025998
He had a iq test in australia which was probably inaccurate but he apparently scored 157 after they "adjusted for apsergers"
I just always imagine autistic males to be withdrawn and more female socialised or at most like this but with the presence of a child even with male socialisation see here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8FqG5DBM_o
and not like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lMgNz6ey90

>>12026285
My default “demeanor” is closer to a slightly detached arrogance than either of those. What I mean by that, is that I’m usually smiling and approach most situations with an inquisitive manner, while also not taking myself too seriously.
However, I rarely take the lead in conversations because most aren’t particularly interesting to me beyond a superficial level.

I feel like of those two examples, if you “took out” the Tourette’s traits, I’d be closer to the first. Though I don’t really have a problem with eye contact simply because I’ve practiced maintaining it.

Although I’d say this mostly applies to situations talking to women. I’m more confident than the first guy for sure, but the streamer dude seems more extroverted than I.
Though perhaps if I was filming everything I was doing at a con, I’d act more like that than my typical self too.

>>12009171

>>12026285
>>12025998
>>12025941
>>12026675
>My default “demeanor” is closer to a slightly detached arrogance than either of those. What I mean by that, is that I’m usually smiling and approach most situations with an inquisitive manner, while also not taking myself too seriously.
>However, I rarely take the lead in conversations because most aren’t particularly interesting to me beyond a superficial level.
Kill yourself newfaggot cancer

>>12027789
Been here since 2010 when I wasn’t even a teenager, sorry to disappoint.
Wish I could leave permanently but it never seems to last.

>>12027868
You can leave. Just heed my advice.

>>12026285
"Adjusted for aspergers" means it was increased because they think he cannot take tests properly or decreased because they think he's a retard?

>>12027874
Nah I’m gucci, been down that path before.
In a much better place now, and don’t want to waste my life,

At least I limit myself on what boards I browse & when.

>>12020506

that's not what a developmental disorder is, you dumb boomer faggot.

>>12027895
It means its fake and gay.
>>12027901
You’re alright. Take care.