/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11943272
a challenger appears

>>11943289
This.
Definitely the Far Left.

>>11943272
>Is it possible for this process to misfire and to instead guide you towards something you will inevitably regret?
society is extremely complex, evolutionary urges can easily be misled into making you do something entirely fruitless or even self destructive, just look at all the porn / masturbation addicts

>>11943272
That girl is ugly
9/10 body, but the face is trash

>>11943272
only girl and guy with jap squiggles on shirt are smiling

>>11943272
>Is it possible for this process to misfire and to instead guide you towards something you will inevitably regret?
you mean divorce and losing half your money, access to see your kids, your house etc?

>>11943329

>>11943272
You miss the point anon. Left is a total loser, an insufferable faggot as well as a retard, I've quite a few of these in Uni, they would dwell in Hackatoons and would only drink monster energy. It is obvious that right is happier. The assumption here is right is dumb and left is smart, which isn't true.
There must be no separation from scientists and warriors, one must be both. If you don't lift I urge you to go and only relax when you are lifting at least 3.5pl8. We need our new breed of men, the men who will found the new Rome and, the new Troyans, who will bring light to this savage world.

>>11943272
>What is the scientific reason behind us evolving "happiness", /sci/?
I would imagine to reinforce behaviours that are beneficial to our ability to reproduce.
I.e, dopamine releases when we eat food, eating food allows us to survive and reproduce.
Obviously it has become something more complicated than this in humans, and has developed towards reinforcing beneficial social behaviour as well, which is why (most people) are happiest with others rather than isolated.

Of course these days it is apparent that people can still be miserable when they have every biological need fulfilled, which is something I'm sure would be worth a lot if we knew the answer to it.

>>11943378
>Thinking life is this simple
>Thinking his pathetic theorem explains life

>>11943392
>Thinking his pathetic theorem explains life
what the fuck is this supposed to mean? I'm not trying to "explain life" here, just provide a rational for why the development of emotions like "happiness" would be favoured by evolution.

>>11943316
that's because she's not wearing any make-up

>>11943406
I mean you are too dumb to try to rationalize anything. faggot

>>11943430
>>11943392
take your meds, schizo

>>11943435
cope

>>11943316
>9/10 body
You better be talking about the dude

>>11943436
well what makes you so smart faggot?

>>11943444
I am not a gay homo like you

>>11943316
>9/10 body
that's a plank simpus

>>11943272
I only see 4 fags on left

>>11943451
yeah well did you get trips like I did? No you didn't, so fuck off

>>11943272
Better alone than in bad company.

>>11943444
>>11943470
True, the gods have disfavoured me, checked ;(

>>11943289
the one on the right is OP?

Has OP's pic's question been answered?
I guess it depends on the person. The STEM sperg probably doesn't think much about live, but then again, the two insta influencers probably don't either

Good-looking people contribute nothing and get everything. Smart people contribute everything and get nothing. So assuming left has self-awareness they are miserable, and right with zero self-awareness is happy.

>>11943272
The left boys pursue complex Sciences to make money in the future. They will be in a relationship with the girl on the right. Now, the clue is that the right-sided guy impregnates their girlfriends while they watch and raise his kid.
This is the only natural way. Women seek out masculine men when they are ovulating and providers when they are not.

>>11943316
have sex

>>11943543
>>11943554
>>11943272
Happiness is not necessarily your purpouse here, so yes right is happier. But right isn't necessarily dumb either, from my experience left are mostly dumb nigger faggots. Smart people in uni are the ones who don't waste their time with stupid shit such as video games, network and work their asses off to make a company so not to work for someone else.

>>11943575
People who network always have very low intelligence and they’re bad people.

>>11943575
>Smart people in uni are the ones who don't waste their time with stupid shit such as video games
Probably not directly smart people but passionate people. I study CS and most of my peers only do the necessary work to get through while using their free-time for videogames, anime or browsing the Internet. (Ironic that I am on 4Chan myself) Luckily, there are a few people who are interested in doing projects or research outside of mandatory work.

>OP: Why happiness?
>Opens the box of pandora

2000+ years of accumlated human wisdom from all cultures, scientific data and philosophy.
Why not post a free will vs determinism debate thread while you are at it?

guy on the right is much happier but also a completely unimportant parasite. guys on the left will be unhappy forever but will matter. this represents how amusingly bad society is. somehow we reached the point of giving the worst people the most happiness, recognition, respect, wealth, etc.

>>11943594
>Luckily, there are a few people who are interested in doing projects or research outside of mandatory work.
I fucking hate people like this

>>11943575
Yes, slaving your youth away makes perfect sense. So that you retire when you are old and can't get out of bed.

What do you guys think. Will it ever be possible to quantify and isolate abstract human emotions, which are basically (as I understand it) the end result of biochemical processes in the brain?
Most interested in things like:
-Happiness
-Willpower

>>11943629
Happiness: probably (hormone related?)
Willpower: I doubt.

>>11943312
Do you think the world is evolving way faster than probably ever "intended" or "designed" by nature. So fast that the selective pressure can not act fast enough upon humans? You were basically born with a coat because it was cold not too long ago, but weather has quickly changed and you are no longer suited for that envoirment and your genes are therefore completely obsolete, so life gets rid of you in a cruel and slow way.
I will most likely get a darwinistic relativism answer.

>>11943607
You hate people who are genuinely interested in their major and utilize the resources which their University provides to further enhance their knowledge about different subjects? Why?

>>11943586
>t incel who has no friends and no contacts

>>11943607
>>11943654
I don't get it either anon, are you a brainless consoomer never improover?

>>11943636
>Willpower: I doubt.
The interplay and variables are so mindblowingly gigantic, that not too far in the future, people will probably cringe at out understanding of emotions and emotions and overall abstract concepts within the mind. "Just hang in there bro/pull yourself up by the bootstraps bro". Sure I get it. It can be said about everything. I'm trying to say some theories age better than others.

>>11943624
Why do you think working for yourself is slavery? maybe we have mr schlomo here

>>11943647
yes and we will be wiped out by ourselves

>>11943575
Broad general and baseless assumption + with "money gooooooood"

What a shitty shit post.

>>11943272
no idea but that pic asks a retarded question since it totally depends on the definition of "happiness".

>>11943683
Look faggot, it isn't that having money is good, you become independent with it, you don't have to make stuff you don't want and you don't need to talk to niggers.
My goal in life is to have my homestead with a family of 10 children, for this I need some money, everything I do is to achieve this, and I am almost there.
If you want to waste your time doing useless shit it is your problem, let's see 30 years from now who is doing better, youll probably kill yourself from nigger/pajeet fatigue.

>>11943705
>family of 10 children
I hope each and every one of them dies before they gain consciousness you filthy earth poluter. Literal nigger tier behaviour.

>>11943752
Ah yes the city dweller calls me a polluter. Typical

>>11943656
People who network are all completely friendless. They are inauthentic losers without a single real relationship in their lives. They are all fake manipulative stupid scum who are willing to lie and sacrifice integrity for success.

>>11943830
Let me guess you mr.4channel user is the sociable one?

>>11943790
>thinking just because you live in the "muh" evul city, means you are a polluter

>>11943705
based, i just want a remote island with a self sufficient bunker and high iq ai waifubot. so money is necessary.

>>11943272
You have to break it down further. Happiness is directly linked to dopamine, which is released by the brain to reinforce advantageous behaviour. This behaviour may be exercise, sex, gaming, discussion, or anything that the brain perceives as advantageous.

>>11943875
You are probably a very dysfunctional person, wojak poster, since you can't rationalize why cities are bad. With all those poisons in your system.

>>11943272
>MIT integration Bee
Somehow that completely sucked the life out of me in 2 seconds.

>>11943925
lmao

>>11943272
I forgot then name of that instagram couple but they are not together anymore and the girl said the dude treated her badly and forced her to starve herself to appear thin in the videos, the bitch probably done that to herself without anyone encouraging her but still...

>>11943272
Who's more happier:
The one giving into his ancestral animal instincts?
Or
The group who are expanding what it means to be human and increasing the line between man and beast through dedication and discipline?

Chad boy in his twilight years will look back on his life and give youngster the old "I was once like you" or "I could have been someone if not for...", lame excuses of dying man falling further into the abyss. The 4 dweebs on the left will be paragons of wisdom when they become old men with so many people wanting them to share their knowledge, they realise they missed the chance to chase girls, but their sacfice has bought them a steady enjoyable life with little regret.

I know what you tried to do OP, it didn't work.

>>11943909
>He classifies people into two categories; Those who post pictures on an image board and those, who do not

Please tell me why I'm a polluter, just because I live in a dystopian city.

>>11943272
>Nerd shit
>Alexis Ren gf
Yeah ill take the second

>>11943942
Yeah she also said he has a small dick. Basically it seems like she was just trying to get revenge for him dumping her

>>11943676
well sadistic elites mass migration and highly fertile religious funadmentalists could certainly wipe us back.

>>11943949
Okay, lets see:
>Poisoned air
>Niggers, communists and trannies
>Depressing grey landscape
>Consumerism
I haven't bought a product in years, aside from tools
>Poisoned food
You are forced to buy food from grocery stores since you don't have space to make it yourself, of which even if you don't believe it is poison, it is really low quality.
You give away precious waste to companies who have no idea what they are doing, plastic just goes into the ocean and organic trash just becomes methane and goes into the atmosphere.
Instead you could compost organic waste other than dairys and meat. You could use larvae to consume rotten meat and dairy, and proceed to feed it to fish or chicken and then eat fish/chicken. Or you could store methane and use it as a fuel, you might kill yourself doing this doe kek. You could make ethanol out of plastic.

I could go on but I hope you get the point, I was born in a city and I lived in one of the biggest of the world when I was in uni, it fucked my health, now I got it back

>>11943901
However, the brain is pliable, and your perception of reality has a palpable effect on your comprehension of reality. Basically, your perception is the method you ingest information, and is influenced by prior conceptualization of reality, which is comprehension. Your perception dictates comprehension which dictates your actions.
Now, your perception may influence the brains release of dopamine, since you may perceive certain stimuli as worthy for the release of dopamine. Like, say, there's a Christian building a house for the poor. While the process of building the house may be exhausting or even painful for that person, they still receive a dopamine response for succeeding. Why is this? Well it must be that since the brain is pliable, then the brain can learn to release dopamine for unnatural circumstances/ stimuli.

>>11943992
What this also means is that solely perception truly dictates ones happiness, meaning that refined perception, or ideology, is a effective manner of supplying happiness. Now, the method that an ideology influences happiness is still dependant upon certain integral instincts that the brain harbors. Say, a ideology wants one to mutilate others and the self. Now this may be done with prior conditioning to the persons psyche. However, one will not voluntarily conduct these practices, and definitely will not gain a dopamine response.

>>11943974
Doubt it. Every male I’ve known who was good looking like that was a terrible person. You don’t develop any interesting traits when you are coddled like good looking “men” are

>>11944044
Morever, certain ideologies promote the existence of a Creator figure, usually in the form of a God or God's. These are called religions, and their doctrine determines the appropriate Perception of reality. These religions can be appropriately conscientious of the natural properties if the world and humanity, or they can be fabrications intended to gather a following for manipulation, often by a singular or plethora of individuals.

>>11943647
This makes sense except the same way that you have regret, thats the new selection pressure, in your own life.

Also new pressures will evolve, its yin yangs

>>11943272
Survival. Happiness isn't what we seek, but its an illusion created by trying to escape from harm/suffering. We imagine there to be some "happiness" cake out there when reality, its just escape from current situation. When the next situation catches our attention, then we seek the next shelter. Its just that. This is the same thing with the idea of people having "soul" trapped inside a skeleton body. Just an illusion.

>>11943272
>giving out $20 dover books as prizes in a competition
cringe

How come the worst members of society like right get the best lives?

>>11944395
Is that what they got for winning? LMAO

>>11943272
The true redpill is that we can obtain unlimited happiness with genetic engineering

https://www.abolitionist.com/

>>11944442
https://www.hedweb.com/

>>11943272
>not balancing your educational progress with living an active and healthy by lifestyle
Project more

>>11944442
I can’t believe there was a time when I thought this would be a bad idea. amazing how low my opinion of life and the world have gotten

>>11944453
I don’t think the point of the right is that he’s active and healthy, it’s that he’s pretty/parasitic/worthless/mindless. Anyone can be active and healthy but only pretty people get rewarded for it.

>>11943272
That picture is retarded. Happiness is relative and very subjective. See: hedonic treadmill

>>11944461
Unless you look like pic related, and/or have an abominable personality, average or even below average guys can still pull good looking chicks just by looking in shape and well maintained

>>11944478
It has nothing to do with what you can or can’t do, it’s being at a disadvantage relative to other people which is completely unacceptable.

>>11944530
>>>/r9k/

>>11943329

>>11943272
Honestly I don't think happiness you get through achievements whether left or right of pic is permanent. The more i succeeded with the things I wanted up until then the less fulfilled i felt, and then i wanted other things. The search for happiness/fulfillment is the carrot you dangle in front of yourself to not stagnate.

>>11944478
Do you think there's more good looking women than men?

>>11943603
>somehow we reached the point of giving the best looking people the most happiness, recognition, respect, wealth, etc.
FTFY

>>11943442
Only a fool exaggerates hypertrophy by artificially lowering his body fat percentage. The body stablizes at a certain range for a reason. Very stupid. Looks stupid too. And, women don't like it either. They really don't. Women like to touch something witha bit of give to it too.

>>11945122
They do
https://foxhoundstudio.com/blog/the-ideal-male-physique-what-girls-want-want-guys-want-to-be/

>>11945171
>0% of women preferred men with moustaches and goatees.
tfw

>>11945199
Don't worry anon, grow the moustache for you, not for some roastie's affection.

>>11943603

>unimportant parasite
>is more fit, probably has a better immune system and is good looking/procreating with another good looking person
>will most likely have good looking/healthy daughters that the left side will pine for and try to become sugar daddies if they strike it rich in their old age

Don't deny it anon.

>>11943272
They are both goint to be hunted down raped and murdered by scourges of negroes with israeli chips in their brain so who cares.

>>11945215
>>11945199
I always wanted to look like Bronson, I can't believe 0% of them like moustaches

>>11945311

Rent free

>>11944795
Because we're in the billions digits in terms of population, that's a stupid question

>>11944795
Normally yes, but it varies countries, in slavic countries the proportions are like 85 men to 100 women, while in China there way more men.

>>11943353
Hit 4pl8 diddly recently, thanks for the motivation bro

>>11945171
>male choice is Zyzz
Fuck yeah.

>>11943316
> saggy tits
> 9/10 body
Fuck, you have low standards

>>11943272
Is the joke that they all, at some point, killed themselves?

Other than that, you don't see engineers/physicists kill themselves that often unless they had some sort of mental illness other than depression. What you do see is instagram models take their own life after they realize they've spent 5 years doing literally nothing but taking pictures and now they're 30 with no degree, no life, no ambitions met, etc.

The right probably has happier moments, like, sex with literally whoever they want whenever they want and as much coke they want to blow their dopamine levels sky high where the matheletes have a constant satisfaction with life knowing that they are objectively, award winningly, better than others who strive for the same goal.

>>11946248
To be fair everyone with a degree and ambitions is absolutely brain dead. Said things aren’t even close to an accomplishment, they’re a waste of time.

>>11943289
Honestly? I'm just trying to zoom in on the left picture to read the titles of those books.

>>11943272
Chads dont really feel shit from women because they fuck them constantly so the MIT guys.

>>11943988
lmao not him but u r a schzio. see benford’s law. cities are mathematically prove to exist naturally in any organized society that wishes to live productively

>>11946660
Yea, we have existed for hundreds of thousands of years but cities have for a few thousand. You cope because you woldn't be alive without society. Even so, all of those poisons were not present in cities almost a century ago except for polution.

>>11943603
How do you know the science dweebs will matter more than the hippies?

>>11943901
Bullshit, the philosophical approach is that happiness is the absence of sadness, not the other way around.

>>11947760
What I mean to say is happiness doesn't actually exist - just sadness or the lack of it. You are either content or discontent. Or can not be overly content without having discontent.

>>11947764
Moreover you can not diagnose depression at a molecular level, of chemical imbalance. That horsehit only creates pharmaceutical that create further imbalances

>>11943289
i lol'd

>A FUCKING DOVER BOOK AS REWARD
lmao! Imagine being in the 0.001% of the iq scale , winning an incel competition at the fucking MIT only to get a $15 book.

Happiness is an intangible and self perceived human emotion.

I don’t think there’s a lot of science behind it.

This thread is pretty awful.
>>11943289
here's the kicker. All three sets of people are equally miserable because an individual's happiness doesn't matter.
What matters is the conditions in which people can thrive (aka human flourishing). All three sets of the people in these images are capable of it because they are white & middle class.

Happiness has two purposes. Relative levels of happiness guides you to the right choices. Absolute level of happiness tells you whether you should kys or not.

>>11950321
>asian
>indian
How are they white ?

>>11943353
Take your meds

>>11944108
So taking the religionpill could be benifical for those that are often saddies?

why not use your study skills to learn about fitness and social skills?

>>11951399
What are the benefits of social skills? Everyone is flawed in some major way but we all pretend and ignore it.

>>11943272
I showed this to my friend who did integration bee at MIT. He said, "That girl is not even attractive!! Integration bee all the way!"

He is a pretty happy dude.

>>11943289
DELWETE
>>11943575
Don't work too hard
Don't waste it on videos either
I can smell the 20s in this post

>>11951951
Ah yes, the wisdom from a 30 year old. Utterly worthless.

>>11943289
I'm pretty sad. I got /fit/ but, during WuFlu, my parents divorced. My will to continue my workout was shattered and I started eating a lot. I've lost a lot of the fat I gained and I'm returning to my old routine, but my abs are gone.

>>11943272
This is pure bs , how do you know the guys on left don't have a loving partner or the guy on right isn't similarly talented in calculus , infact the guy in white on the left side looks good enough and also knows fractional calculus.Someone out there has a life which is union of left and right side and yet he is still unhappy

>>11943272
>>11943289
>ITT: beta virgins whove never been with a woman but know 100% for sure they wouldnt be happy

>>11952089
Do they look happy anon

>>11951951
Yeah, I am 20. And I have my own business not sponsored by my father, what do you have to show for yourself, boomer?

>>11943272
Take Ur meds schizo incel

>>11943594
>free-time for videogames, anime or browsing the Internet.

In retrospect, I think doing this was better for my long-term character development than more studying.

>>11953676
How so?

>>11954500

Well browsing 4chan has exposed me to a vast array of information that has improved my life in deep, drastic and lasting ways.

Videogames and anime exposed me to themes and stories that were thought provoking and often helped me gain insight in the human condition.

Or I could still be a clueless autist that knows 4x as much physics, but is still exposing himself to a bunch of toxic chemicals hidden everywhere with no idea why women behave the way they do.

Lasting happiness is a manufactured sales pitch.
People typically spend upwards of 80% of their life in a neutralish state.

>>11943272
>>11943289
It's possible they're all equally happy, or that one of the nerds is suicidally depressed, or that chad is a anxiety ridden narcissist. Maybe NEET man is the happiest of them all, or maybe every day is a challenge. You can't tell from a picture. It might be hard to tell even after having a long conversation with each of them. Human psychology is complex, and we tend to hide our injuries.

>What is the scientific reason behind us evolving "happiness", /sci/?
There is no evidence that happiness " evolved."

>>11943272
>Is it to put an emotional bounty on and guide us towards what we perceive as the highest achievable fitness for our species?
>species
no

>Is it possible for this process to misfire and to instead guide you towards something you will inevitably regret?
yes

>>11943586
>People who network always have very low intelligence and they’re bad people.
Spoken like an absolute failure. Sad.

The right is happier and will contribute more to the world than the 4 incels on the left, combined.

>>11943272
One of the key ideas of jewry/cultural marxism is to depict what would make goyim smarter as less desirable than what would make them dumber. This is why you see all the campaigns showing dumbfucks who fail at school as the cool guys women want to mate with, and good school students a horrible virgin nerds.
On the other hand, jews take education of their children VERY seriously and wold never allow them to take pride in sucking at math for instance.

>>11943603
Matters according to whom? You?
Moreover, these things are not given to them by society, they are given by nature.

>>11943272
I was very happy in my 3rd world country, why are locals so arrogant?

>>11950321
t. resentful marxist

>>11943575
working harder doesn't make you smarter. that's called being motivated.

>>11958139
Of course it does, how will you get smarter if not by putting your nose to books and working with pratical problems? By being a neet?

>>11956225
>pick negative phenomenon
>lazily attach a motive to it
>blame it on Jews
Who falls for this shit? Here watch:

The moon is a conspiracy by surfers so they have cool waves to ride. If you dispute this or ask for proof you’re a surfer shill. How can the moon itself be a conspiracy you ask? Logic and proof are also surfer conspiracies.

This is exactly how retarded /pol/ sounds when they talk about Jews. Granted that’s because you all are actually that stupid, but you should at least learn to emulate intelligence.

>>11943586
Which is why you always be a sad loser, one of humans prime conditions revolves socialization you retard.

>>11958461
anon probably mixes up being intelligent with being smart

>>11945171
Those studies are always retarded because studies on night stands women overall prefer the muscle hunk look. Anybody who has hung out with muscle bros or been real fit know its much easier pull pussy in person like no other, girls always want to feel your arms. They are forgetting it makes you higher status among males. naturally other males feel submissive in front of a bodybuilder or admire it as shown even in their study and mostly will point him out which his girlfriend is going to pick up on as approval or threatened.

Cucks and swingers have always existed for this very reason, a muscle hunk might not a be a womans first choice. However her husband will want that as a ideal because he knows the man is much stronger than him and once his wife or gf gets a gripped by a huge muscled man shes going to want a full breeding. While the husband is toying with a biological slippery slope of mentally experienced love vs. the urge of female hypergamy.

Muscle Hunks= Physically displaying he could cuck you.

>>11958486
You're a moron, because you don't know jack, doesn't mean other people don't