/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11907341
damn bros maybe blacks really were discriminated against

>>11907341
>spell backwards, forwards
this is a great test

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>>11907341
every question is deliberately ambiguously worded so that there is rarely only one correct way to interpret the question. so, no, you cannot pass it.

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>>11907422
Which is the point.

>>11907399
https://a.cockfile.com/UeEJ8Q.pdf

>>11907341
Can't pass it in the 10 minutes. I guess I can't vote.

>>11907341
probably not
do you have the actual solution tho?

>>11907455
Oh, the 5 is wrong, should have been the first "a" in alphabet
guess I didn't pass lmao

>>11907455
"Paris in the the spring"

Also, I chose "boob" instead of "bob".

>>11907455
you got questions 5, 7, 9, 11, 16, 20, 22, 23, 25, and 29 wrong

>>11907455
bob -> dod

you failed the test, anon

>>11907472
apart from 5 and 25, can you provide the right/expected solution for the others?

>>11907472
With 11, I can see an argument for crossing out enough zeros to make the remaining number 1000000, or going with what the other anon did. How would you have answered 20? Backwards is spelled forwards, sdrawkcab would be backwards spelled backwards.

>>11907455
>Draw a line around the number OR letter of this sentence
>this sentence
>1. part of the sentence

>>11907341
Most of these are easy and just trying and failing to be tricky in their wording, but some of them are literally just gibberish. I guess it's designed like that on purpose because you have to get 100% to pass, so they make it mostly doable and then just stick 2-3 impossible ones in there so it's not obvious they're failing people on purpose.
What the fuck is 11 even supposed to mean?

>>11907488
>7
you made an X, not a +

>9
You should only have drawn lines through Y and Z, maybe also T depending on the scorer.

>11
This one's super ambiguous - it could be crossing out either a number of zeroes to make 1 million or crossing out the digits to make 1 million. You went with the latter, but only crossed out 100,000.*

>16
You drew corners, it said to draw a circle.*

>20
You should have written "sdrawrof".*

>22
You should have circled the "the" in "the second line", not the space in "this sentence".

>23
Your line was NW to SE, not NE to SW.

>29
You didn't capitalize the fifth word you wrote. I also think they probably would have dinged you, their use of "write" and "print" suggests they wanted cursive for part of it.

* I will admit these ones are even more gotcha than the others. That's the point of the test.

>>11907508
>maybe also T depending on the scorer.
What interpretation of "Draw a line through the two letters" would require you to draw a line through three letters?

Not science or math.
>>>/lit/
>>>/his/
>>>/pol/
Fuck off.

>>11907508
>You should only have drawn lines through Y and Z, maybe also T depending on the scorer.
The question said "a line" so arguably the scorer could say you should have only drawn a single line spanning through both letters.

20. Interesting take. I took it as meaning draw the word "backwards" forwards. Of course they could have made it clear with quotation marks.


One wrong answer and ambiguous wording means they could have scored a wrong answer on every test. Is this test legitimate? Reverse image search only turns it up on 4chan, so I'm thinking it's not.

>>11907422
Based

>>11907508
>7
X is by merriam-webster's definition an abbreviation of "cross"
>9
The definition specifically says "a line through the two letters". If it allowed for multiple lines it would have said "through each of the two letters"
>11
"Cross out the number necessary when making the number below one million" means you cross out the number necessary to make a number below one million. 100000 is below one million, so is any number with any number of 0s without the 1.
>16
"Draw a Triangle and a blackened circle so that the blackened circle only overlaps the left corner of the triangle" is the full sentence.
>20
That is the one that is factually wrong due to punctuation. I hold it is still "backwards", forwards.

>>11907518
"The two letters that come last in the alphabet"
could be also:
"E" and "T" - the last two letters in the phrase "the alphabet"
"Y" and "Z" - the last two letters in the alphabet

>>11907526 is right though, I hadn't considered that interpretation. I take it back, that one could be legit right.

>>11907526
I've seen these images before on places that aren't 4chan. Just search "louisiana literacy test". these specific images are likely reproductions, but they do seem to have some basis in real tests administered in the 60s.
https://www.crmvet.org/nars/schwartz.htm#corelittest
https://www.crmvet.org/info/la-test.htm

>>11907546
i was referring to the corners on the circle you drew, not the corners on the triangle. and i think you'd find lots of people who would assume a christian-style upright cross given the prompt for "a cross", not an X.

And I interpreted "the number below one million" as "make the number below, one million" when scoring. I bet that question's another one of the ones that have no real answer, every interpretation is wrong.

>>11907455
No voting for you, negro.

>>11907526
>Is this test legitimate? Reverse image search only turns it up on 4chan, so I'm thinking it's not.
It's obviously not an original copy (it's scanned, but the paper is bright white, there's no fading at all in the ink and it's basically unmarked, absolutely not something that's been sitting in a box for 150 years), so reverse image search not having any hits doesn't necessarily mean anything conclusive.
I do agree there's a decent probability it's fake to some degree at least.
>>11907550
It can't be E and T, since there's no E in the line of letters. If you want to use that interpretation it would have to be B and T.

>>11907550
I've looked for the origin of this test and haven't been able to find anything reliable, not that I doubt something like this might have been used, but any completely fair literacy test probably would have excluded a lot of blacks.
It's quite similar to the Army Alpha test used in WW1, at least in that slightly tricky wording is used in the first part.

>>11907550
Thanks anon. Here's the test from one of your links: https://www.crmvet.org/info/la-littest2.pdf

It's not as tricky as the one in the OP, but I'd be willing to bet many U.S. citizens would have a hard time passing it.

>>11907578
judging by that same site, it looks like the test found in the OP image was used, but only one year in one or two parishes in LA.

>>11907341
No tbqh.
>write backwards, forwards

>>11907428
#10 Barbary (black) slave traders captured and enslaved over 1 million Europeans (white)

>>11907607
>Barbary (black)

>>11907341
That's fake and from reddit, and so are you. But here you go.

>>11907341
That's fake and from reddit and so are you. But here you go.

Reposted the above due to typos in the original.

>>11907919
neither fake nor from reddit, but whatever

Here are the answers. Took me 9.9 minutes. I think I may have fucked up when they said write but I printed everything except Q29

>>11908103
Sorry nigger, you don't get to vote.
25

>>11907341
What's the point of this circlejerk when most blacks in the early 1900s couldn't read? Between 30% to 10% of the US population was illiterate in the early 1900s.

Obviously this affected minorities the most.

>>11908103
yep you fucked up #4. Too bad so sad.

>>11908133
everyone has the right to vote

>>11908150
Everyone has the right to an education, first.
That's where segregation was failing blacks in America.

>>11908155
regardless of whether you have an education, you still have the right to vote. no barriers should be placed before the exercise of that right

>>11908133
I would have assumed it mostly targeted the homeschooled, as compulsory education got introduced just 2 decades prior, and the big push for other states to follow suit started around 1871

>>11908133
Illiterate white people could vote if they had a relative who served in the Confederate Army

>>11908157
Point is, the test was only a small part of the barriers being placed on blacks. You aren't living in the 1870 US south just coming out slavery and facing segregation and lynchings.

>>11908168
poll literacy tests were used until the mid 20th century, anon.

>>11908175
So was segregation.
Being able to "pass" this ambiguous test proves nothing.

>>11908168
see >>11908158
I assume not many people in the 1870s could prove a 5th grade education in lousiana, since compulsory education didn't come into law until 1910. It was a lower class barrier more than it was a nigger barrier

>>11908180
did you even read the thread? everyone here knows the point isn't "can you pass it", because the test was designed to not be able to be passed.

>>11908157
This wasn't the case when the nation was founded, its not an inviolable principle. We don't allow felons to vote and we don't allow teenagers to vote. Why should we allow illiterates and people who hate America to vote?

>>11908184
It's a reductionist view, because there were more barriers than just the test itself.

>>11908191
>We don't allow felons to vote
most states allow felons to vote once terms of their sentence are up, or earlier. personally i think even convicted criminals should be allowed to vote, but that's just me.

and this test had nothing to do with "were you literate". as this thread proves, even fully literate people are guaranteed to fail it.

>>11908194
just because racist oppression was a society-wide phenomenon doesn't mean we can't talk about one implementation of it. if someone claimed that literacy tests were The Means of Oppression, that would be clearly wrong, but there's nothing wrong with focusing on one aspect for a time.

>>11908201
>personally i think even convicted criminals should be allowed to vote, but that's just me.
by this i mean people currently in prison serving their sentence

>>11908201
why should violent criminals be allowed to vote? how difficult is it to follow simple instructions as well? this is essentially a very weak verbal iq test, its unsurprising many millenials and gen z bug brains can't follow simple written instructions.

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>>11908191
>The United States Constitution did not originally define who was eligible to vote, allowing each state to determine who was eligible.
> By 1856, white men were allowed to vote in all states regardless of property ownership, although requirements for paying tax remained in five states.
Fast Forward to this day, constitution only protects niggers (1870) women (1920) poll tax dodgers (1964) and anyone 18 or older, based on their age (1971) from being denied suffrage
States can still deny your "right" to vote if you're a felon or you fail to register to vote in time in states where registration is compulsory.

>>11908206
so people that served their sentence don't get to vote?

>>11907422
Not to mention it is timed for 10 minutes, so you don't have much time to figure it out, and getting one wrong flunks the test.

>>11907455
Did you complete this in under 10 minutes?
Also, I think there is distinction between "write" and "print", so when it say to "write" something it should be in cursive, I think.

>>11908232
no, i mean i think you should get to vote whether you've served your sentence or haven't. send ballots to prison.

>>11908128
The irony is more advanced readers will likely get that wrong since they've learned to read in chunks. The person who is nearly illiterate and has to read out every word will realize "the" appears twice.

>>11907341
probably not as it's a test literally designed to fail as many people as possible. Anyway here's my attempt, which took me more than 10 minutes anyway. The last question isn't even correct English.

>>11908103
the second letter of "the fourth word" isn't "q". sorry nigger, no voting for you.

>>11908133
to prevent the ones who could read from voting

>>11908358
>Gets question 16 wrong
Confirmed black moron

>>11908358
>>left corner
>does right corner

>>11907341
The test is easy , niggers are just dumb the Irish passed it just fine while drunk and they were technically still enslaved. Jews were the slave owners anyway.

>>11908296
>send ballots to prison.
I mean, they already send them in democrats infested hellholes, so it won't be that much worse

>>11909296
how about they just make it so you can only vote if you're a registered republican?
seems fair to me

>>11909255
>test is easy, niggers are just dumb
post your attempt them

This literacy test needs some proper punctuation.

>>11910130
20 is "forwards" backwards, not "backwards" forwards
sorry nigger, no voting for you

>>11907919
no circle around the black dot in 19 (and several other mistakes)
no voting for you boy

>>11910137
yeah i just wrote forwards backwards, not backwards forwards.

Hint: backwards, forwards = forwards backwards
*take note of the comma*

>>11910150
>Hint: backwards, forwards = forwards backwards
no it doesn't

>>11910155
alright you got me, i can't refute that.

>>11910168
it just doesn't my guy. That's not how sentence structure works in the English language. Here the comma divides the sentence into two separate clauses
>Write backwards
>forwards
The first clause is the instruction, the second clause gives additional information about that instruction. Of course the question is designed to be ambiguous and to trip people up, but the meaning here can be ambiguously parsed.
Two possibilities
>1. Verb subject, adverb
>2. Verb adverb, subject
Suppose we were instructing someone to eat a fish slowly, then we could write
>1. Eat fish, slowly
>2. Eat slowly, fish
Of course, to a native speaker of English the second sounds very strange and thus we are forced to accept that 1 is correct, not 2. Thus it instructs you to write "backwards" forwards, not "forwards" backwards.

>>11910191
*the meaning here can be unambiguously parsed.

>>11910204
>unambiguous
Nope, the correct answer to the simplest reading of the question would be
b a c k w a r d s
f o r w a r d s

>>11910191
It doesnt matter how much you diagram the sentence, the person administering the test will just look to see if you look black before deciding how to grade that question.

Reminder that anyone who claims to be able to solve the test, have all failed question 7. I don't see the question being limited to the X in the question. Why haven't you guys drawn a cross on every other X on the paper, such as in the word "next"

>>11910337
the letter X implies THE letter x in the line
but strictly speaking, every single instruction has multiple interpretations or is plain impossible if you choose to be absurdly pedantic in the interpretation
for example, you can't "draw line around something" as line must be straight by definition

>>11907455
is question 1. right though as it states "a line" not a circle

>>11910446
When is a circle not a line?

>>11907341
Damn, that's pretty fucking evil.

>>11907341
How much you wanna bet if you were to post this exact image on /pol/, with one claiming israelis administering this test to white people to allow them to vote in their elections and the other claiming whites administering this test to black people to allow them to vote in their elections, you would receive two totally different reactions? Would be really fun to watch.

>>11910432
It does not though. Nowhere does it say in this line like other questions that came previously. Also, it's more of a command/instruction "Above the letter X, make a small cross" and does not necessarily mean singular.

>>11907399
Yeah, but think of how many potential slaves there were in Africa who the Jews didn't enslave. The ratio of Africans taken as slaves to those not taken as slaves must be some like one to tens of thousands. Why don't you give Jews credit for that? It was extremely humanitarian of them to allow so many potential slaves to remain free.

>>11910765
There are very few white people in Israel and Israel is trying to stamp out all black and brown people in Israel, even if they're Jewish. Take a look at how they treat Beta Jews from Ethiopia. Doubt your experiment will go the way you think it will but since posting is free, why don't you go over to /pol/ and test your theory instead of just dreaming up results?

>>11910822
The test is obviously bullshit and designed in a way to make the taker fail, with questions that have multiple meaning or even don't make sense at all, such as drawing lines around something. Lines (in euclidean spaces) are straight and are the shortest path between 2 points. It's absolutely impossible to draw a line around something since it won't be the shortest path. Anyone defending the test and putting the blame on the test taker is going to be wrong and a hypocrite. Someone already posted the test on /pol/ last night, since I went there to post it to troll them, and saw it was already posted. Most people did exactly as expected and blamed the blacks for not being able to solve it until they tried it for themselves and failed miserably. I'm just going to wait a month or so for people to forget about it and do the same thing but claiming the test to be from israel to see if they will blame white people for being stupid or actually blame the test (and potentially just shitting on israel). The first part has already been proven. Just have to wait a bit for the second part so there isn't a wise guy going hey, you posted this yesterday claiming the test was used on blacks.

>>11910930
>Most people did exactly as expected and blamed the blacks for not being able to solve it
Holy fuck you're actually illiterate lol
90% of the comments were criticizing the test, 5% were retards posting their solutions, and 5% were trolls posting the n word.

>>11910528
???

>>11910946
>Holy fuck you're actually illiterate lol
you have to go back to /pol/ faggot. Half of the people said how easy it is to solve it and that niggers are illiterate. The other half called me a kike.

>>11910951
In projective geometry (the only kind that matters) they are the same.

>>11911044
Get back on your meds retard.

>>11907341
questions are clearly retarded and written in intentionally obtuse language, but still not difficult

>>11907919
For question 18 the number written on the line should be 24, not 12. It asks for the next number in the sequence, not the one that would come in that spot. The sequence is fibonacci-esque.
Also it appears that for question 10 they want the letter "a" from the word "Louisiana" at the top of the page. This is because they do not specify that the word is in the sentence of the question and they specifically use a capital "L". This is corroborated by question 26 (names are indeed words, no idea what got that notion into your head)

>>11907507
you cross out the 1, then it becomes 0000000, moron

>>11907399
This is not supported by its own sources. Also those citations are embarrassing. This is /sci/, not /pol/. Have some standards.

>>11907341
Here is the thing. If you gave this test to the entire voting population what percentage would pass? Lets say you gave them a time of 20 minutes, made some of the questions clearer, and allowed 2 wrong answers for a pass. Am I being harsh in thinking less than half would pass?

Furthermore, what percentage of the population would simply opt out of voting rather than have to complete this test as a requirement to vote? I would guess up to 75% of the population would rather not vote than have to do a test.

Finally, if passing this test, or one like it, was made mandatory as a requirement to vote, what would be the implications for politics and society?

>>11913016
>Am I being harsh in thinking less than half would pass?
Well, if you're testing based on the original intent, then if they're black, none would pass, and if they're white, many would pass. There's multiple correct answers for several of the questions, and the tester could rule you correct or incorrect based on their personal whims.

>>11907341
The perfect /pol/ IQ test

>>11913056
lmao someone post this on pol so they can prove they're smarter than blacks

>>11914797
I should note that I understand that on number 22 a cross could also be the crucifixion cross, but it's not specified to I put an X. Also, over =/= above.

>>11914797
curiously, I'm the only one ITT so far to have interpreted 26 as
In the third square below, write the second letter of "the fourth word".
i.e. "h", not "q".
I thought it was obvious as most other questions refer to "this sentence" or "this line", and in 26 it's not quite clear what sentence to find the fourth word of. But I guess it's just another intentional ambiguity for examiners to mark how they like depending on how black you look.

29 is "every other word every Third word"

>>11907341
You realize the test is fake, right?

https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/07/louisiana-literacy-test-update-the-hunt-for-the-original-document.html

>>11914897
Like, here's an actual literacy test from 1964. It...tests reading and writing: https://iowaculture.gov/sites/default/files/history-education-pss-voting-literacy-transcription.pdf
(sauce: https://iowaculture.gov/history/education/educator-resources/primary-source-sets/right-to-vote-suffrage-women-african/voter-registration-literacy))

Here's another one, with the totally subjective bullshit of "copy a passage of the state constitution and explain what it means": https://www.crmvet.org/info/ms-littest55.pdf

>>11910528
If you're gonna be pedantic we can measure your 'circle' and see if it's a mathematically perfect one. We can also see the part where it closes with a microscope to check it it's really even close, or maybe it overlaps and goes through itself a little bit. You claim that a circle is a line, but you didn't even draw a circle (you would need special tools to do that); you drew a doodle.
>inb4 it's still a line
Show me the equation that draws that line then. I'm waiting.

>>11914897
>You realize the test is fake, right?
Proof? No, it's not on that link.

>>11914928
Some dipshit teacher made it up.
>McDonald reports that she received the test, along with another literacy test from Alabama, from a fellow teacher, who had been using them in the classroom for years but didn’t remember where they came from.

The test linked in the article (https://www.crmvet.org/info/la-littest2.pdf)) is an actual test: you know, understand basic politics or get lucky on some multiple choice questions.

>>11907428
>american indians owned thousands of black slaves
Source on this? Sounds interesting.

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This retard propaganda is pretty interesting bro

mind blowing

but who asked

>>11912785
Hey there Jew.

>>11907341
Obviously fake since it doesn't use le posh oldey time slang. Fuck, I hate 19th century English language.