/sci/ - Science & Math

The moment you aren't going to shit in my milky way doompaddy doomp

>>11740420
SOON
ARTEMIS 2024

>>11740420
Tomorrow

>>11740420
>ESA moonbase
that one never but an american one probably by 2030

>moon bsse
conceivably a small one by 2035+, depending on how well the SLS performs
>mars base
you will not live to see it.

>>11743922
Funny how you think NASA will be faster than SpaceX

>>11743947
do you really think Congress will stab their contractor buddies in the back and wrap their lips around Elon's cock? never.
without that, Elon is not going anywhere big anytime soon. CCDev represents the current limit. Starship won't fly.

>>11743958
>do you really think Congress will stab their contractor buddies in the back and wrap their lips around Elon's cock? never.
They already gave him a military contract for Starlink, a contract for Artemis and just launched a ISS contract, congress isn't going to stab them in the back because they already have

>>11743922
>>mars base
>you will not live to see it.
Bitch I just might, if I live to 100

Why can't Americans build their own rockets? Why must they always exploit Germans or South Africans?

>>11744150
Goddard Murtha fuvker

>>11744150
Why can't germans or south africans build them in their own countries?

>>11743958
>. CCDev represents the current limit. Starship won't fly.
don't worry i will rub it in you face in 2022

>>11744164
sure thing. ill be here on the 31st december 2022, and ill post this image.

>>11744160
Both governments are even more retarded than the US's.

>>11740420
Uh, hopefully soon. Elon needs to pick up the fucking pace before SpaceX is collateral damage.

>>11744205
do it

>>11740420
ask China because nobody else can fund a program long enough to actually build a base

>>11743958
>Elon is not going anywhere big anytime soon
there is literally zero reason to doubt him right now

>>11743845
ESA could be such a powerhouse but they are such cheapskates

>>11743922
>SLS
>uhh 2035 maybe

>>11743958
idk a lot of Congress likes Elon. Elon employs many people in several constituencies. The progs don't like him because he is so rich.

>>11740420
MARS2022

>>11743922
GET HYPE

>>11744513
Europe is not a country.

>>11743922
elon said we will go on mars in 2025/2027

>>11745234
Based Retard

>>11744513
As always.

>>11743958
Boeing and Lockheed are a lost cause.

>>11740420
Keep your shit in /sfg/. Sageru

>>11751148
Bumping because /sfg/ is garbage

>>11740420
What happened to mars one? Was it scam?

>>11740420
The moment the west decides to stop babysitting joggers

>>11744035
I could easily see a small mars settlement by 2050

>>11743958
Congress isn't backstabbing anyone if they haven't even provided something to dump the space budget into

>>11744218
south africa you've got an argument, Germany you're just deluded

>>11740420
No one is touching any planets, especially dweebs.

That would kill the beauty and romance of our solar system. Knowing a bunch of dweebs are sitting on them.

>>11751917
It’s just a dead rock that serves no purpose until we conquer it

When we start mining asteroids then we would use the moon. There needs to be a commercial purpose.

>>11751933
>until we conquer it

It must mean more than a rock then.

A beautiful celestial huge objects far from your reach. You clearly appreciate its distance and scale, enough to desperately want to get to it and live on it.

If it was just a dead rock why do you want to go there?

It's like the Amazon rainforest. We don't see it or it doesn't necessarily come to our thoughts but knowing it is being deforested on a massive scale is disheartening.
At a scientific or objective level the Earth looses out on Carbon locking (or slowing) and good Oxygen release. If you wanted to see It that way.

Yes I agree it is a big rock essentially. But I think admiration for space and planets can happen from afar. Sorting out Earth's problems, making it work.

>>11743922
>moon base
this decade
>mars base
The next.

>>11744513
ESA has the slow but steady approach.
They work with a fraction of the budget of nasa but get results.
But all of this will probably change when US takes a massive lead with spaceX&blue origin.
Musk is litterly going to bruteforce a new spacerace.

>>11750994
>elon said...
ok, using what?

>>11751887
Can US government come even close to German government's retarded decision to shut down all their nuclear power plants and replace them with coal&imported power?

>>11752011
ESA is basically the designated junior partner.

>>11752086
Germany sells more energy than ever.

>>11744513
A lot of pan-European projects like ESA stuff, especially Galileo, is not about tech. Instead it is all about ploughing vast sums into the more powerful EU countries. I have been in this nintendo and it is pretty ugly, also on the inside. It is blindingly obvious money is going places but little is done other than generic window dressing. thus there are no explanations for the utter failure of Galileo, amusing when a minor GPS failure was the raison d'etre of Galileo.

>>11751144
L-M will be rolling in cash from F-35 for the foreseeable future. The more leaks there are to China the more L-M is paid to "work around" this. They just cannot lose.

>>11752392
yeah, no

>>11752361
At a loss because we can't decide when it's being generated, otherwise our own electricity wouldn't cost 30 cents per kWh.

>>11752086
We don't replace nuclear with coal, we simply made a decision to turn off nuclear before turning off coal at a time when the climate wasn't such a pressing political topic yet because there are still tens of thousands of jobs in the coal industry. As we gradually reduce nuclear it's being replaced by wind and solar. Eventually we'll be in a position to replace coal as well. In hindsight it would've been smarter to turn off coal first but oh well.

>>11752430
wrong

>>11752435
No we won't, fuck off lefty.

>>11752011
BO has yet to deliver anything, we'll see.

>>11752407
Syntax error.

>>11752435
lol

>>11752356
>Conglomerate of different old / 1st world countries is the designated junior partner
Ahahahahahaha.

biggest waste of resources.
i can't believe that most people believe terraforming is economically unfeasible but getting silica and iron from the moon is.

>>11755068
>eurabia
>1st world

lol made me chuckle

>>11755183
The idea is not to produce things mainly for transport to Earth, but rather to make things meant to operate in the upper reaches of the gravity well. Solar Power Satellites are meant to be in the square kilometre size, and as you point out there is a lot of Silicon on the moon.