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Why didn't the singularity/big bang collapse into a black hole?

>> No.11695531

>>11694352
less than 1/100000 gram, then inflation kicked in.
https://youtu.be/zO2vfYNaIbk?t=50s

>> No.11696540

>>11694352
You are thinking good questions, OP

>> No.11697179

>>11695531
>less than 1/100000 gram,
Lmao

At least you could said that it was homogeneous and in that case magically gravity didn't work.

>> No.11697445 [DELETED] 
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>>11694352

Stop with this silly schizo "black hole" garbage. And yes the belief in "black holes" is truly schizo.

"Black holes" violate Einstein's Relativity theories (let's just pretend they're correct), yet in the institutionalized "settled science" dogma, they simultaneously believe in Relativity. And "black holes" (as defined by the "black hole" believers themselves) can't exist in a Big Bang Universe, yet they simultaneously believe in the Big Bang. And by the official "black hole" """science""" there can't be /multiple/ "black holes" in the same universe simultaneously, yet they believe there are. It's 100% schizo and idiotic.

Institutionalized "settled science" followers are basically religious - they ignore any science and facts which contradicts their belief system.

To everyone who wish to learn and educate themselves, here's an excellent scientific paper describing the problems and contradictions with "black holes" and Relativity: https://files.catbox.moe/b3aur6.pdf

And here are great educational videos for those who don't want to read (all the following is based on /real science/ and observations of reality, as opposed to the "settled science" dogma):

https://youtu.be/kI14fpM3ouU

https://youtu.be/Iz8RRN8rY00

https://youtu.be/yc9PB_4F-OU

https://youtu.be/J4NffTr_GMk

https://youtu.be/Dk2-lH9ewuA

https://youtu.be/ev10ywLFq6E

https://youtu.be/I8y3VrrVEpI

https://youtu.be/Dz2A4qXJQjc

https://youtu.be/-FdWTH08u30

https://youtu.be/Q185InpONK4

https://youtu.be/CHZ5O0jTH8A

https://youtu.be/nLC4MA6_Oq0

https://youtu.be/GfyNOEMjzI4

https://youtu.be/lmROfjgViLE

https://youtu.be/TiKYvUtpJXA

https://youtu.be/MvNCWMD6so4

https://youtu.be/TdYrgJrBFr0

https://youtu.be/-03lh_tHMJ0

https://youtu.be/FIgmsQOKnmk

https://youtu.be/ot-9R2GZxp8

https://youtu.be/p8lKQMEYYLw

https://youtu.be/_c9M33FLH40

https://youtu.be/SeIHTCdOGWs

https://youtu.be/4IdMz8PkGZM

https://youtu.be/kz-Bwi5xTTs

https://youtu.be/xUC_a-IMmGs

https://youtu.be/hC_KkLvG22A

>> No.11697463

>>11694352
You should be aware that the Big Bang idea was originally invented by the Christian theologist Robert Grosseteste (1168-1253), first head of the university of Oxford. He had a vision that his Hebrew god Yahweh created a tiny spot of light that exploded rapidly taking the matter – which was simultaneously created by the god – with it to form a spherical universe.

Big Bang Cosmology in the modern sense was conjured up by the Christian Catholic priest Abbe Georges Lemaître.

The pioneering Nobel Prize winning plasma physicist and electrical engineer Hannes Alfvén said about Lemaître:

> "I was there when Abbe Georges Lemaître first proposed this theory. Lemaître was, at the time, both a member of the Catholic hierarchy and a scientist. He said in private that this theory was a way to reconcile science with St. Thomas Aquinas' theological dictum of creatio-ex-nihilo (creation out of nothing)."

> "There is no rational reason to doubt that the universe has existed indefinitely, for an infinite time. It is only mysticism saying the universe was created - whether four thousand or twenty billion years ago.

> "Since religion intrinsically rejects empirical methods, there should never be any attempt to reconcile scientific theories with religion. We must not confuse religion and science. An infinitely old universe, always evolving, isn't compatible with the Book of Genesis."

Lemaître is famous for his description of the beginning of the universe as "A Day without Yesterday" in reference to the Creation account in Genesis.

The Jew George Gamow, another famous Big Bang proponent, had no compunction in describing the graphs of conditions in the Big Bang as "Divine Creation Curves" and sent a copy of his book "The Creation of the Universe" to the then Pope.

[continued below...]

>> No.11697472

>>11697463
In January 1933, the Christian priest Abbe Georges Lemaître travelled with the Jew Albert Einstein to California for a series of seminars. After the priest Lemaître detailed his Big Bang theory, the Jew Einstein stood up, applauded, and said:
> "This is the most beautiful and satisfactory explanation of Creation to which I have ever listened."

Thus Big Bang is theology and mysticism, not science. Lemaître allowed his theological convictions to predetermine the outcome of a scientific inquiry. This violates the scientific method. Furthermore, the Big Bang creatio-ex-nihilo Creationism consists of a universe that's entirely filled by a continuous indivisible distribution of mass with a monotonically decreasing macroscopic density and pressure or a finite averaged macroscopic density and zero pressure in terms of the energy-momentum tensor for a perfect fluid. Therefore it violates the Principle of Equivalence and Special Relativity as required by Einstein himself for his gravitational field model. So not only is it Creationism, it's also schizo.

>> No.11697578

>>11694352
Sorry but the Big Bang never occurred. To learn more, see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8lKQMEYYLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i6mCNgJNZs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHOo3elX5-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz-Bwi5xTTs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZspAmawIpc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUC_a-IMmGs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8shxpZJ30Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c9M33FLH40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rRmXzruFzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeIHTCdOGWs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIgmsQOKnmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ijbu3bSqI

>> No.11697809

>>11697445
>>11697578
fuck off and die

>> No.11697833

>>11697445
Oh, look they posted it again.
>guaranteed replies

>> No.11698786

>>11697445
>>11697463
>>11697472
>>11697578

That doesn't answer my question.

>> No.11698845

>>11694352
there wasn't enough mass. like literal mass, the concept didn't even exist yet because everything "weighed" exactly the same so there was no curvature of space/time.

>> No.11698952

>>11694352
we don't know. early-universe physics is a highly-debated topic but we're sure there were some laws or interactions at play that don't currently exist.

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>>11694352

>> No.11699143

>>11697445
>eu garbage
into the trash it goes