/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11667873
No it’s speeding up coomer. Go read a history textbook. Even in comparison to the Cold War we are moving incredibly fast

No

>>11667873
Yes, macro-innovations have decreased since the 1800's and micro-innovations are slowing
Sources
At our wits end - a book examining the decrease in g and innovation across the western world

https://www.mdpi.com/2624-8611/1/1/15/htm
A conversation about how declining g has led to declining rates of macro inovation since the 19th century (search for macro-inovation in page)

Just search for the "woodley effect"

"Human accomplishment " - Murray
Catalogs this decline since the 19th century
https://www.gwern.net/docs/sociology/2003-murray-humanaccomplishment.pdf
page 427

The genius famine, particlarly chapter 13
https://geniusfamine.blogspot.com/

That should get you started

>>11667875
I don't need to read a textbook to see you are completely wrong.

>>11667875
Just look at a graph of cpu clock speeds.
In almost every field of science and engineering, we are butting up against the limits of what is physically possible.
Name a single disruptive breakthrough in the past decade. All that's left is some minimal fine tweaking for diminishing returns.

>>11667873
We're definitely plateauing

>>11667895
Oh yah you dumb nigger? We’re talking relativity here and your telling me that for the 10 thousand years of human history that we are slowing down in scientific discovery? That the last hundred years have been slow in comparison to say, the Bronze Age or age of antiquity?
>but I can’t seeeeee the changes
Look at computers you dumb nigger, if you actually knew what YOU were talking about you would know about the exponential increase in computational technology that all other modern technology relies on. Take a gun and blow your brains out because it’ll make your overall intellect increase

What grinds my gear is that software is not only not improving, it's actively getting worse and worse. We don't expect things to work anymore. It takes facebook 20 seconds to load on a computer that is orders of magnitudes more powerful than those used to take us to the moon. Everything is bloated garbage, nobody cares about good software anymore, it's all going down the drains.

>>11667915
>the exponential increase in computational technology
See
>>11667910

Still better to be a dumb nigger than a disgusting tech-worshiping kike like yourself

>mouse rejuvenation just happened
>AR glasses coming next year
>level 3 self driving for consumers in 2 years, lvl 4 in 5
>starship will go to orbit late this year or early next
>5G
we're doing just fine

>>11667873
take your meds

>>11667905
Reusable rockets.

>inb4 we tried that in the 60s
Yes, and it failed. Today, the technology has be refined to the point that it's disruptive in the launch market.

>>11668020
Just fucking listen to yourself. AR? Self-driving cars? They've been "just around the corner" for the better part of a decade. We can't even make reliable software for airliners anymore, but you think we're just a couple years away from putting millions of self-driving cars on the road? Jfc you are hopelessly delusional

>>11667905
>Name a single disruptive breakthrough in the past decade.

machine learning / AI that actually works
consumer VR finally here
reusable rockets
CRISPR

>>11668083
>AI
no where near. We've got some big programmes. Micro-innovation, just longer code
>VR
Sensors + a 3D virtual world, really not that impressive. Cool, sure, hardly a huge breakthrough like the transistor, electricity etc

>reusable rockets
Not even close. Elon landed some metal husks back on earth. Not even clear refurbishing them is going to be cheaper than making from scratch

>CRISPR
probably the only one that has the potential to be ground breaking. But when it comes down to it, they literally just isolated and modified a protein.

>>11667873
No, nice myth tho.

>>11667873
>I don't see anything new, so it doesn't exist
No
You don't see them because most are only useful supply-side and/or are currently too costly to be commercialized

Depends on how much you drink daily. A good baseline is 500ml.

>>11668078
You expect there to be an immediate transition from manual driving to fully automatic driving?
No, it will be gradual, with systems being implemented to assist and take over specific tasks.
Note that that's exactly what has been happening over the past several years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_driver-assistance_systems

>>11668083

Also SSDs.

>>11667910
>We're definitely plateauing

We have reached a plateu before. We were reaching the limits of these before we discovered transistors. That doesn't mean that we discovered everything worth discovering.

>>11668486
This isn't going to happen because we wont have enough competent engineers by the end of the century to maintain anything of this scale.

I doubt there will even be national grids in 150-200 years

Starlink is going to be huge, if it pans out.

Metamaterials have a lot of promise to be absolutely revolutionary. What are you talking about?

The cost of solar panels and batteries is going down significantly. That could be disruptive.

>>11668502
You do realize that the number of engineering degrees has been growing faster than the number of job offers for engineers, right?

>>11667873
Aren't those titties a bit too heavy for her?

>>11668538
Don't you see the struggle in her face?

>>11667922
facebook is actively making its interace slower, and so are many other apps.
its part in fault due to UX/UI design and psychological studies that have shown that if the human doesn't see something load that person feels somewhat dissapointed.
My source is a Cheddar youtube video tho, so I might be wrong.

>>11668049
thats suuuuper suuuuper dope
but its also a bit of a meme
>>11668083
> CRISPR
yikes

>>11668534
Yeah but if national IQ is decreasing (the direct effect on g is equivalent 1 pt per decade, and has been ince 1900) and you need engineers with IQ 125 to maintain the machines that draw copper into wires...
Im not saying there will be less engineers, theyll just be less competent. More mistakes will be made, big projects become less sustainable.

>>11668560
Average IQ in the early 1900s in the US and europe was like 70.

>>11668642
look don't wanna jump in your guys thing but iq was developed in the 1900s and an iq of 100 was considered average that's why they have a bell curve around that so Europe definitely did not have an average iq of 70.

>>11667905

>>11668642
Not biologically feasible, standards of living in Western Europe in 1900 were higher than in modern day Nigeria where the average iq is ~75-80

>>11668559
>but its also a bit of a meme
Not really. It's a sudden shift in not only the price of access to space, but also the structure of the industry itself. Before, people held the notion that the only way to get space flight done was through large well funded government programs. Those programs, while capable of pushing the bounds of whats possible, are very vulnerable to political shifts, and that's exactly the main reason why NASA floundered so much after Apollo. SpaceX coming along and developing on a technology NASA has failed to do faster, better, and cheaper than what NASA could do shows that the notion I previously mentioned is false. Because of this, the space flight industry can shift from the highly expensive specialist mentality which chases after high-tech advanced solutions, to the more mundane ubiquitous and cheaper worker mindset focused on getting more done for less.

>>11668642
>extrapolating the flynn effect back 100 years

>>11667905
>>11668388
>>11668049
Metol Musk (haha chemistry joke) landing two boosters synchronously.
Hate the musket as much as you want you've got to say that the shit he's making people do for him is ground breaking. You struggle at landing a half-full bottle of water on the ground while they land a 70*3.66 metres, 549 tons stick on legs.
AIs
CRISPR
Phage-based treatment
Experimental fusion reactors , Higgs Boson, ...

Development slowed down, but it's not a cadaver yet.
btw Cold-war's end just killed space development and basically everything, especially with europe being an absolute victim with two suicides attempt aka world wars , the entire place is not only shit for it's citizen but also for science. take a look at the Hermes lol

>>11667873
i liek bobs an vagine

>>11667873
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/intro-apollos-ascent/

>Moreover, progress becomes steadily harder over time; disciplines splinter (see the disappearance of polymath “Renaissance men”), and eventually, discoveries become increasingly unattainable to sole individuals (see the steady growth in numbers of paper coauthors and shared Nobel Prizes in the 20th century). In other words, these IQ discovery thresholds are themselves a function of the technological level. To make progress up the tech tree, you need to first climb up there.

>>11667873
If there isn't a breakthrough in quantum mechanics research or quantum computing, I'd wager ITER wil bring extremely useful data for basically every field of physics that is still alive

>>11667873
We had this discussion just a few days ago.

>>11668511
>Metamaterials have a lot of promise
We are talking about RESULTS not endless promises.

>>11667875
high iq

>>11668560
>Im not saying there will be less engineers, theyll just be less competent.
I've had this nagging concern ever since that brand new pedestrian bridge collapsed in Florida last year. I hope we don't devolve into a third world shithole where everything's falling apart and escalators eat you and stuff. That really scares me.

batteries
colliders

we have reached hard physical limits, our paradigm. is reaching its natural conclusion

I hope you're ready for a paradigm shift, because it's gonna happen
cell walls don't exist distance doesn't exist the ether is real its not all subjective

the system of German idealism is about to be completed, can u feel it?

>>11667875
We had no scientific break through or a revolutionary invention since the 60's

>>11669058
We made better umbilical clamps and vaccines. That had revolutionary effects on human life.

Likely true progress wont be as profitable as inane bullshit
Even the largest tech companies (which should arguably be driving progress) focus on making incrementally better hardware, likely slow on purpose, milking consumers, or just focus on literal ads
Academia is a bit of a mess, hard to navigate the state of research as it is with published papers etc, lots of progress but near impossible to organize and bring together into something useful
Musk is a stale meme, but the normie idea of him as "rich man do science" is sort of our best hope (though maybe not him, hopefully someone will show up)

>>11669058
>a revolutionary invention
If we're including everything 70s until today then
Gene therapy is now a thing
Beginnings of a scalable quantum computer
VTVL rockets (although I guess that depends on what you would define this category)
Lithium batteries
X-ray lithography
scanning tunnelling microscope
DNA fingerprinting
The Artificial Heart.

>>11667910
>logarithmic scale

all low hanging fruit are taken, now it's all a shit ton of time and work for very insignificant return.

Its not slowing at all. Genomics is doing crazy shit. Ai is exponential.

>>11668083
CRISPR is the only relevant thing you mentioned, everything else is absolute shit.

>>11668388
>>CRISPR
>probably the only one that has the potential to be ground breaking. But when it comes down to it, they literally just isolated and modified a protein.

You’re trolling. Genetic medicine is not a big deal?

>>11667885
Based Woodley, Dutton, and Murray poster.

>>11669444
it's a troll thread

>>11667910
>judging total technological output on processor speeds
Why not just use the wheel as an example? That's one of the oldest human inventions and you can only get it so round.

>>11667910
>this platuing did not happen in 1995
>people did not say moores law was ending then either
Lol retards, the singularity will occur in 2023.

Yes. The masses have essentially endless base desires and we’ve devoted nearly the totality of our technics to satisfying them while ignoring anything higher.

>>11667873
>I can't be the only one who's noticed
True, we have had 2 other threads on the same topics the last few weeks.

You might want to look into the knowledge event horizon. All low hanging fruits are picked.

>>11667875
>Even in comparison to the Cold War we are moving incredibly fast
In circles.

>>11668500
>We have reached a plateu before.
Which one?

>>11670773
please be joking anon

>>11668038
You're a fucking stupid fucking idiot

>>11672071
>noooo not the meds mommy

>>11672067

>>11672085
>thread full of actual examples and articles discussing the slowing of technological progress
>You don't like this, so you post "take your meds"
You're a stupid fucking idiot, this will never change. You will never accomplish anything in your life.

>>11672087
Then you're a joke lmfao
Even by the most optimistic estimations the singularity isn't happening in 2 years

>>11672092
I'm posting take your meds because
1) the OP is clearly out of his mind and needs medication
2) the meds are also example of new innovations, back in the day we would just chuck people like OP to the looney bin

>>11672108
Why is the OP "clearly out of his mind" for noticing the objective reality that technological progress is slowing down

>>11672124
Well if he takes his meds that problem goes away fast.

>>11672129
Where is the problem?

>Repost
Yes, macro-innovations have decreased since the 1800's and micro-innovations are slowing
Sources
At our wits end - a book examining the decrease in g and innovation across the western world

https://www.mdpi.com/2624-8611/1/1/15/htm
A conversation about how declining g has led to declining rates of macro inovation since the 19th century (search for macro-inovation in page)

Just search for the "woodley effect"

"Human accomplishment " - Murray
Catalogs this decline since the 19th century
https://www.gwern.net/docs/sociology/2003-murray-humanaccomplishment.pdf
page 427

The genius famine, particlarly chapter 13
https://geniusfamine.blogspot.com/

That should get you started

>>11672131
Take your meds and find out, it's very easy in retrospect

>>11672149
I dont need meds and would never be prescribed them so I couldn't take any meds even if I wanted to.
Now answer the question: Where is the flaw in OPs thinking and where is the problem?

>>11672156
Easy fix by going to the doctor

I can lead the horse to the meds but I can't make it take them.

>>11672156
Because it's flat-out wrong? We've had multiple world-changing technological breakthroughs in the last 20 years. Mostly in miniaturization, but still.
>>11667875
This. OP and this entire thread are probably zoomers who can't even remember living before smartphones. The entire world changed around the year 2000 with widespread adoption of internet, personal computers and networking machines. Computing power is so great now that things that were impossible a decade ago, like self-driving cars and autonomous robots are on the brink of reality.

Of course you're right if you're talking about fundamental physics, but that's largely because all the lowhanging fruits were taken in the early 20th century. There's nothing easy left. There are no more physical breakthroughs by polymaths in the home laboratories anymore.

>>11672169
see>>11672137

>>11672166
Your IQ is very low and you will never amount to anything in life.
>>11672169
>Because it's flat-out wrong? We've had multiple world-changing technological breakthroughs in the last 20 years. Mostly in miniaturization, but still.
No, we havent. CRISPR is the only one. Every single other "advancement" was just a by-product of increasing number of transistors on a square inch chip. That is NOT an actual innovation. All of the inventions you just named are just more powerful computers, which were invented back in the 30s. And we're hitting the unsurpassable fundamental physical limit in terms of transistors on a chip.

Almost every single so called "advancement in technology" that has happened for the past 50 years was just Moore's law. Then some people took that increase and falsely claimed "ALL technology is increasing exponentially" when that was never true. There has been effectively no advancement in any technology, other than some small increases in what more powerful computers were able to bring to those technologies (like mapping DNA sequences sped up with more powerful computers, but the actual technology of mapping DNA sequences hasn't changed whatsoever since its inception)

>>11672169
smartphones were a triumph of design and some engineering refinements of existing technology. Watch the first iPhone reveal for some insight as to the state of the smartphone industry at the time of the iPhone's introduction Everything the iPhone could do would already be done by a combination of other devices, or even entirely by an existing device but that device was just poorly designed so it was hard to access those features. Smartphones are designed to be easy to use and powerful, but fundamentally they are just a marriage of a cellphone and some PC features that already existed. Sure, they're tiny, but we've kind of known we would get tiny, powerful computers since the 1960's when moore's law was observed. Smartphones were hardly a technological revolution or a breakthrough, they were the ultimate, ideally-designed form of existing technology designed for the use case of the every day consumer.

Plus, its arguable that smartphones haven't increased our material or mental well-being. They've led to a dozen or so society-destroying applications entering widespread use, and very little actual time-saving utility/productivity being gained. You could more easily call them a parasitic invention than a useful one.

>>11672268
>Plus, its arguable that smartphones haven't increased our material or mental well-being.
Probably true. Technical solutions rarely solve human problems, only technical problems.

>>11667873
It is getting faster. It feels slower because the past is compressed

>>11670773
holy shit a singularity just flew over my house

>>11667873
instead of jacking off to exaggerated cartoon porn, read up what's been going on in the science and technology fields

>>11673248
> They dont exaggerate the applicability of their findings to get more grant money

>>11669058
This is a completely myth that seems to keep getting spread.
The inventions are not revolutionary because no one understands them, other then a few, or the media doesn't report on it, as they don't think accurate science news sells (it will).

>>11667873

Yes

Technological progress does not happen in a vacuum. It is the result of economic growth, specifically of increasing energy use per capita. Every technology that impacts the average person's life ultimately comes from a supply chain that produces things out of and energy inputs and raw materials (which require energy to extract), so as each person in a society uses more energy and resources, the amount and complexity of material goods that they can support in the economy also increases. If the amount of resources/energy available to each person is constrained, it limits the number of new products that can be scaled up to mass-production, and newer technologies (that are usually more complex and energy-intensive than their older counterparts) become impractical or unaffordable to the average person. Periods of stagnation in the growth of per-capita energy consumption (like we've had in the West since ~1970) are correlated with periods of relative stagnation in living standards and technological development. Things will probably get better if/when we start to scale up solar power and battery storage to the point where they account for 100%+ of our current global energy consumption.

>>11668534
>>11668560
Based on those IQ tests performed on 5th graders for GT placement right?
American 5th graders have been getting dumber since the 60s because it's cheaper to just import talented college students from China and India than to actually have a decent education system.
Whether or not American tech continues to dominate depends on how many Asians get scared off by new wave racists.

>>11674768
Learn the material for yourself.
Gullibility is your own choice.

>>11667905
>HUR DUR LOOK AT LE CONSUMER CPU CLOCK SPEEDS MUH VIDYA IS NOT PROGRESSING FAST ENOUGH SCIENTIFIC ADVANCEMENT IS DEAD
K.y.s.

>>11668806
>"In math, I would guesstimate roughly the following set of thresholds:"

In other words, that chart is pulled completely out of some schizo's ass, because quantifying those things isn't already implausible enough on the face of it.

>>11674829
Crazy how China is so smart but their education system is fucking garbage. Maybe if you weren't a racist piece of shit who thinks Asians are good at math you'd realize the vast majority of Chinese and Indian people are poor and uneducated.

>>11669410
brainlet detected

>>11668020
>>mouse rejuvenation just happened
Not qualified for human use
>>AR glasses coming next year
next year...
>>level 3 self driving for consumers in 2 years, lvl 4 in 5
year after next year...
>>starship will go to orbit late this year or early next
somewhere in a future...
>>5G
trivial
>we're doing just fine
This is beyond plain wrong. Your examples are either irrelevant or have not even happened yet.

>>11667873
There is a science fiction story by Bruce Sterling about this. I would have linked it but I cannot find it. Essentially the future vision was one of boredom.

>>11668083
0 disruption

none of these will have any big effect
nothing will change

It's easy the progress which happened around 1900 was easy to grasp for everyone, the progress happened in 1950 was easy to grasp for everyone with some kind of education. The progress which happens now is so specific and high level that you actually need to be directly involved in those fields to see that progress.

You could already see it happen in the late 2000's but smartphones changed the game for a while. Ever since 2010 nothing important technologically happened.

>world is being forced to become more "inclusive" and "diverse
>technological progress drastically slows

now who could have guessed

>>11667922
Whenever I bring this up on reddit retards come out of the wood work to tell me I'm wrong, all the updates full of shit nobody wants are really there to speed up the software, and reiterating that it's more profitable for a company to add another layer of abstraction and use up all my FLOPS than to pay a programmer to spend more time getting his shitty code out of exp space.

The user experience hasn't changed in over 15 years. When Youtube was first created the page loaded exactly as fast as it does right now on this machine which is two orders of magnitude more capable in every capacity you care to name.

I had to give up on a laptop I owned even though there was nothing wrong with it because it couldn't stream 720p video on youtube without stuttering. Twitch was unusable too. The goddamn thing had a 1440x900 screen. There is no excuse for it not being able to stream video of a resolution lower than that.

>>11667936
That plot is logarithmic, look at the Y axis you braindead nigger.

>>11667873
I kind of have a theory about this where similar to "hard times create strong men" and the "middle child who doesn't do much and is largely ignored" life theories, we're in a middle-child era of humanity rn- no great war, no depression, no frontier to really explore, nothing to inspire and light a fire. It's just kind of a blah era and we're getting lazy for it, content on optimizing instead of making huge discoveries.
This is more than likely a cyclical thing.

Sure there's the concept that past scientists got to the low hanging fruit first, but they didn't have the resources, tech, and manpower we do either.

>>11679035
It's the white man's fault you asshole. We minorities started a revolution and the old rich white man got jealous and decided to drop the torch and ruin everything instead of just handing over the torch. This has nothing to do with our new level of involvement and forcing the white patriarchy to hand positions to minorities even tho we're less qualified.
So fuck you you fucking racist. This is your fault.

>>11667910
Early 2000s huh. About the same time trans hrt became mainstream and 3rd wave feminism took off.
I swear 9/11 was the catalyst for every whiney minority to REEE and make things worse for society in general. But hey, at least they have the freedom to get cheap likes off their politically agreeable zero-repercussion Twitter posts that they can ban anyone who disagrees with them. So brave.

>>11669058

retard every field of science and engineering has been almost totally revolutionized in the last 20 years alone.

>>11679141
The suffering that will forge great men will be birthed by our apathy.
I don't know why I fucking bother.

>>11667884
Yes.

>>11668402
Yes, there is no new discoveries.
We are still riding on 100 year old ideas.
Everything now is not new, unless you mean cheap labor and financing.
There are a few new ways to shave pennies but no new technology.
The improvements have been to finance not physics.

>>11668500
No, transistors were known for a very long time.
It required cheap labor and machines and financing to make that step, not science.
Tech as you know it is toys, trinkets and nonsense.
Bouncing cars and playthings.
Real technology is in physics, genetics and micromachines but to get there you need more then finance and money. You need ideology, philosophy and religion.
That you will not have until money is not the goal or desire.

>>11668511
They are like lasers before laser disk players and pointers.
They are known and are not needed for anything.
Even things they would be good for are only slight improvements on cheaper technology.
Until it is needed for something, its not needed.

>>11668534
Means nothing, a political talking point.
Using software is now and engineer.
Great we are all engineers.

>>11668778
If I see so far it is because I stand on the shoulders of Giants.

>>11667873
it has been for some time, yes...

the "elites" don't like scientific progress except in fields that help them exert control over the population, that's why it's basically just better and better smartphones and social network stuff.

>>11668806
Puzzle games are a poor metric for intelligence.

>>11679250
No it hasn't, name one revolution in the understanding of any field of science in the past 20 years

>>11668892
Late stage empires are all about political positions.
Merit based becomes contrary to control and support of ideology is needed in late stage wars.
Its war. Politics is just war, thinking it civil or in your interest are just acts of war.
Propaganda, fragmentation of community and denial of resources is how you wage war.
War is not about two countries attacking each other its about crushing and domination of internal debate.
To remove thinking, questions and actions that would conflict with ideology that otherwise would not be supported or allowed.

>>11679171
What revolution

>>11679399
I will name 5 just because I'm lazy

1) The impact of modern genetic analysis on every field of science.
2) Crispr-Cas9.
3) Flow Chemistry in chemical engineering
4) CAD - Computer Aided Design
5) Artificial Intelligence

>>11669280
Your misunderstanding that chart.
Technology is needed or war, it is not needed for peace or victory.
After you win, what new innovations do you need for victory over your enemy.
Winning redirects the spoils of war to the victor instead of to innovations that are required for victory.
You are seeing victory over the enemy.
Do not ask who that enemy is or what the spoils of victory are.

>>11667910
>clock speeds
>over 10^10 hz
clearly wrong, the highest clock speeds you can get are around 4*10^9 Hz
Also clock speeds haven't been increasing since the 3Ghz pentium 4 circa 2002

>>11672268
Smartphones were to lower the costs of atmosphere detection equipment and tracking devices.
They were not innovations, they just the the enemy to pay for their own destruction.

>>11677175
Propaganda is often targeted at those who could be most disruptive.
The communists targeted schools, university and the young.
Those who didn't have the experience to understand lies or motives of those who spoke in positions of authority.
Lies are real, deception is real and war is real.

>>11679099
Its intentional. The reddit users are just speaking lies, propaganda.
Redit is just there to issue and support war actions against you.
Its war and reddit is not "retarded" they are attacking as solders do.
Information, opinion and thinking are attacked to maintain the ideology and offer support to their fellow information solders.
They are warfighters, being paid or not in support of their propaganda and ideology.
War and the tactics of war will be used against the innocent and ignorant, always.
Observation is critical to defending against propaganda. So individual observations will always be attacked as not scientific.
As if science was anything other then observation.

>>11679466
What is the war being fought over? I don't understand what you're talking about.

>>11679171
You are confused.
You misunderstand your enemy.
War is often difficult to understand as your position in war.
War is not so much about tribe as it is about religion. Each tribe can only have its own religion, its own understanding of that religion.
This understanding is built into each tribe differently.
So a blending of religions was needed to overcome this. That was done.
But the religions became bloated and misunderstood, so priests were needed for each tribe to correct think the grand bloated religions into something the local tribes could accept.
This was the first of the Great Wars and Crusades.
Politics even today remain local as long as the communities remain strong.
But what should happen if those communities are fragmented by interweaving different tribes with different understandings of religion.
War can be a difficult thing to understand and accept.

>>11679491
i'm almost 100% certain that anon is mocking the left, but i'm not sure satire is applicable to them anymore, they just such broken mentally diseased people.

>>11679491
Stop speaking cryptically as though it makes you more profound and explain yourself clearly and articulately.
What is the war that is being fought, by whom and for what reason. This is a basic question with a clear cut answer.

>>11668078
>millions of self-driving cars on the road

i bet you there are more than a million self driving cars on the road at this very moment

>>11679489
Yes, that is the right question.
As most proper question's are answered in other questions, so must this be.
Its not about being cryptic, or not answering the question. Its just a fact that questions lead to other questions.
This is the GAME. The complete domination and control of everything.
Total Global Domination, its more then that however its about religion, philosophy and purpose.
There are many philosophies at war with all other philosophies. As there can be only one dominating philosophy, one religion based on that philosophy and one law based on that religion.
To breed is to control for qualities you desire as you exclude those you do not.
You and all you want and need will be the wants and needs of those who control you.
You. That's the short answer.

>>11679532
You're just doing it again. If your position is
"There is a global effort to cause humanity to be sectioned into a slave cast and ruler class separated by control using information technology, a drones, genetically modified submissiveness, one world government, one world religion, and one genetic race" then just fucking say that you retard. You're not being profound or sneaky or anything by speaking like a fucking retard.

>>11679497
Confusion is understandable.
You don't educate your enemy on warfare.
All young men have been denied philosophy as it would give them tools to wage war on their enemy.
So philosophy has be ridiculed, confused and attacked and discredited.
Little talking points are not the point of philosophy, nor are quotes.
Philosophy as the religion that evolves from it are a single thought.
A full complete thought. That answers all questions on religion, life and God who is always given credit for that full and complete thought.
It is your birthright and you have been denied this, so you seek it out in places like this.
Never knowing, always seeking.
That is the itch in your mind and questions you seek. The answers exist as do the solders who fight against it, as philosophy is more then an idea.
Philosophy is knowing without doubt. As the thought is complete and without error.
This thought begins with Purpose. Once you know this you will know everything that connect to it and how everything interacts with this Purpose.
A man cannot live on bread alone.
So what does a man need.
How is this need.
Where is this needed.
Who is this man.
All questions, have answers most lead to other questions.
When you have answered all questions correctly and fully. That will be one philosophy and the foundations of religion and law will have been built.

>>11679556
No. You are confused on outcomes, goals and purpose.
No philosophy has won so the outcome goals and purpose are not yet known.
You are jumping around in thought and speculation using what you think is true as fact in that speculation.
You are confused about everything.
Attacking based on speculation not observation and fact.
Emotion has been doing the thinking for you not logic or experience.
You attach a position to me like a postit note.
"IF YOUR" well what if not
IF is a poor thought, think what is and what was. What is known, what is unknown.
How do you know what is known to be and what is not known what is.
" I am the wisest man in greece for I know I know nothing"
So what do you know to be true that is without error? How do you know this?
You will find you don't know as much as you think you do.
But War is only of the easier things to know, without doubt or error.

>>11679644
There's no use trying to explain it to him. He's as dumb as the redditors he was complaining about. You could spell it all out to him in less uncertain terms and he would just call you a schizo.

>>11667922
based

>>11679402
Anon stop you're really scaring me.

>>11669251
lmaaoooo he didn't even notice the scale

>>11679598
Stop waxing poetically about things in an abstract manner and just name the jew you faggot. otherwise you're nothing but a paid shill from isreal. Also >>/pol/ is that way.

>>11679598
>>11680601
And btw, that's more a reply on the way you're writing in an abstract manner than actual content. I agree we're under occupation and it is my sincere belief we have been since the rothchilds took over the banking system in England by manufacturing a stock market crash. Hitler tired to free us be we butched his people and demonised them for daring to live free and not as cattle. For that I believe gods punishment is the current hell we reside in, a hell in which we are occupied by an invisible enemy which mocks and degrades us at every opportunity simply because it can and because it gets high off it's own farts ( believes the myths of it's ancestors who made up the holohoax) and there golems who do their bidding like trained dogs. I'm not sure theres a solution to the problems, and i'm too fucked up to try. I'm still trying to do nofap for personal improvement reasons. All the power to you however my black aryan friend.

>>11675073
>REEE RAYCIST POS!!!!!
Why are you all the same? What is it that gets you so upset when someone has a different view of race than you? Genuinely curious.

based on what metric? everything points to technological advancement being exponential

>>11667873
>Is technological progress slowing down?

No, a huge number of very difficult tasks are being advanced, but they are much harder than most people at first though.
Some example:
1. IPV4 transition to IPV6
2. Fusion
3. GPS accuracy to the centimeter
4. Robotic humanoids

Progress is not slowing, but much HARDER PROBLEMS are being solved and they are taking a long time to solve

>>11668724
>deriving biology from standards of living
>deriving standards of living from biology
Either way it's stupid.

>>11667873
It does seem to be slowing down.
The only big paradigm shifts I see left are neural link leading to perfect VR immersion or colonizing space.
Everything else is just making the same old patterns with slightly better hardware.
Fusion energy will just reduce the power bills.
Gene editing will just reduce the medical bills.
Quantum computing will just speed up a narrow set of computations.
Most things just seem aimed at reducing costs and masturbation of sorts.
What do we do when nobody needs to work and they get tired of masturbating?
>>11679417
This.
These are probably systems with thousands of processors.
You can't really say it's innovation to take up a larger footprint in order to make up for the slow down in minaturization.

technological singularity within 50 years