/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11630595
It's not self worship, it's elimination of somebody another.

shill tactic. glow in the darks, disinfo agents etc.
or it could be an actual retard with no rebuttal, it's hard to tell these days.
also, modern science is a religion so careful what you say!
don't ask questions!

[math]it's just a buzzword[/math]

>>11630595
nice way to corral the sheeple

>>11630595
It's just another variation of fag, tranny, cunt, nigger, etc

>>11630595
Because you refuse to stay in your containment board

>>>/x/

Every time I talk shit online I get CAPTCHA fucked. I’ll explain what I mean by this, and the conditions under which it occurs, to see if other users are experiencing similar issues.

I clean cookies and reset IP often, when browsing in a fresh state I will experience normal captcha, 1 at least, sometimes 2 or even 3 and sometimes none.
Then I shit-talk politics, and as I’ve noticed a few times my whole night thereafter is 5, 6, 7 fucking captchas. Every post requires slow-rolling the goddamn half-dozen captchas.

Fuck no I’m not giving you money for a pass.

Fox News and the GOP have used gas lighting to control the public so damn much, that now it's become normalized. But it's only become normalized for those who are it's target, the right-leaning Trump supporters.

In fact it's become so damn normalized that the right-leaning Trump supporters now instinctively gaslight everyone they disagree with, even each other sometimes. It's just more proof that they're brainwashed yuppies.

>>11630595
because it´s all so tiresome. 10-20% threads made by mentally ill people were fun once in a while. but above 50%? that´s a grudgin´

>>11631138
what about the hidden figgers thread eh

pls delet it ty swaglord

edit: upwards of 12 captchas brb softban dodging

>>11631130
People scared others will judge them, if invested in social structures with networks of other people, and don’t want to go against the grain like that.

>>11630595
>make dogshit threads like >>11631165
>NOOOO STOP CALLING ME A SCHIZO

>>11630595
Because there are people posting batshit insane stuff and if they knew even a little bit, they would know it's wrong and you can prove it.
Even if you prove it, they will still deny it or will ignore your post.

>>11630595
I think that 5G-posting is the kind of thing that onlookers associate with schizophrenia because of its similarity to the classic trope of a schizo being paranoid about being controlled/influenced by waves or radiation. Although it's completely absurd and theoretically unfounded, I will concede that 5G fear has become a widespread normie meme now especially among boomers, so there's probably a pretty high proportion of non-schizos who believe it can cause harm to humans because they read it on facebook.

Many other bottom-tier conspiracy theories are being rolled under the "5G bad" umbrella on boomer facebook groups as well, which subsequently become associated with schizos. For example, my mother tried telling me that Bill Gates engineered the coronavirus so that he could release a vaccine which would become mandatory for all humans to take, and which he could use as a method of implanting us with microscopic tracking chips; and the rollout of 5G occurred because faster mobile internet would be necessary to track and control all humans on earth using these chips. If you honestly don't believe that story sounds like something a schizo made up, then I think you've never interacted with one. The fact that tons of otherwise normal boomers now believe this nonsense because they've just been reading facebook and haven't left their houses in two months doesn't make it any less of a schizo-sounding idea.

>>11631168
Exactly what part of this thread makes that OP schizophrenic?

Granted it's a very open ended question people ask a lot, there's literally nothing schizophrenic about it.

This is why there's a thread about this. People are incorrectly using the term to identify people they disagree with or are annoyed by. Why not make a different term? It would be a lot less confusing, or just call them retarded.

>>11630595 (OP)
>>11631176
Another factor that makes a post or idea sound like it came from a schizophrenic is if it uses strange, unnatural sentence structure or non-sentences and doesn't clearly express an idea or argument. Some of these posts seem to be written like they're meant to be read as chants, or theyr'e supposed to syntactically resemble bible verses, or they're just a stream of consciousness exercise for the writer. For example, the "they clamp" guy's posts always stand out to me as being very schizo-sounding, because although I do understand what he's saying, the way the message is written and posted seems very odd.

>>11631110
I don't have this problem but I'm using chrome and logged into the botnet. Politics, shitposting or regular posting doesn't really change captcha for me. I even get to post without solving the captcha a lot which is convenient. Don't even need to spend shekels on a pass

>>11631194
It’s on CAPTCHAs end and has to do with science but it still pisses me off every time I go through the ol ringer
>please also check new images *slowrolls u*

>>11631199
Slow fading is the most rage inducing bullshit, I'm so glad I don't get it often anymore. It seriously makes me want to murder whoever thought it up. Fuck them.

>>11631199
*CAPTCHA’s

It’s because of the tubes n shiet but still i liek to believe i got softbanned by some mod or algorithm at captchanet

>>11631204
Based.

>>11631110
I can't even post on any of the orange boards. It takes like 6 correct slow fade captchas in a row. If I use an autosolver too many times they get suspicious, presumably because an assumption that no one is resilient enough to get fucked around by captcha to that extent is programmed in, so they just ban me outright. "Try again later".

>>11630595
maybe stop posting 5G and electroverse threads

>>11631204
The kind of slow fade that fades quickly is okay but the slow slow fade, fuck that.

Slow fade captcha is super easy and almost always works for me, slow slow fade and regular captcha never work.

>>11630595
>Why is anything anyone disagrees with or dislikes being called "schizophrenic" now.
That's not the case. People get called schizo because their views of a particular topic is utterly outlandish to the point that they are operating too far away from reality.

A good example of this are Trump supporters. They literally operate in a world where Corona is just the flu, windmills cause cancer, bleach is a potienal medicine, people are angry from their classmate getting shot are crisis actors, mainstream media is all lies while /pol/ and YouTube are bastions of knowledge, hurricanes should be nuked, and that their race is being genocided due to people willingly race mixing...and if you disagree with any of this you are secretly a robot with no conciousness.

In fact, schizo is a serious euphemism for some of the people around here. My cousin is unironically schizophrenic, but he isn't nearly as delusional as the 4chan schizo.

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>>11630595
>Why is anything anyone disagrees with or dislikes being called "schizophrenic" now

It's not. If that's happening to you, it's because you're posting schizo.

>>11630654
>t. schizo

>>11631413
>tfw you will never heal the resident 4chan schizo
It ducks bros

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>>11631180
>Exactly what part of this thread makes that OP schizophrenic?
The fact that he posts philosophy shit that has nothing to do with science.

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>>11631413
>point that they are operating too far away from reality.

Imagine being so much of a boring individual that you force yourself to abide by "logic" and "reality", closed minded retards like yourself are a plague on humanity.

It's in their faces, everyday. Trapped in their world of eternal gray. Their heads in sync, swaying back and forth. They're looking for something they cannot see.

They walk in circles, everyday. Their faces all empty all empty and pale. With no regard for their silent pain, I walk passed through the endless rain.

They are afraid. I'm not afraid. They're so afraid. I'm not afraid.

Trapped in a place that has no name, their empty shells all one and the same. What's different? They just cannot see. They are stuck in their darkest dream.

They march in step, side by side, any room for dissent denied. I'm not like them, without a name. I am safe in my darkest dream.

And can you see their faces? Can you feel their fear? Can you feel their shame? Living their darkest dream.

Are you afraid? I'm not afraid.

You float in a million lights, but the one you seek is not there.
You fight in a million fights, but it's yourself you cannot bear.
You think you are a leader, but you turn everyone away.
You think you are a preacher, but you can't turn night into day.

There is something inside of me, and I know that it's growing. The thing that will forever be, and I feel its shadow calling.
It's the fear that drives you mad. It's the fear that makes you blind. It's the fear that keeps you sad. It's the fear that kills your mind.

You think that you make things grow. But in truth, you are like a desert.
You think it's not your ego, and that others make you hurt.
You have learned how to deceive, and yourself is all you can hear.
You think you really believe. But deep down, you are only fear.

There is something inside of me that makes me run up against the wall. The thing my eyes don't want to see, that will obliterate my soul.

Everyone's afraid. But that's no excuse.
Everyone's afraid. But that's no excuse.

And I will never see the truth, this is not a matter of my youth.
I do not need anybody else, bonds would put my mind into cells.
And I will never know I was wrong, never listen to those truly strong.
I do not fear anything that's not me, ignorance is the ultimate key.
But I wouldn't want to live like this forever, but change myself? Never. Never!
The very thought sends shivers down my spine, I'm sure everything, everything will be fine.
But I wouldn't want to live like this forever, maybe I really was too clever.
I wouldn't want to end like that, I would die lonely and incredibly sad.
No one can be there for me to care, but without it, I will never find salvation.
Life always empty, I will never change. Life always fragile, I will never change...

Everything is about control. I must never slip, nor ever fall. Anything is possible for me. I must never doubt, and finally be free.

>>11631501
The pursuit of science is inherently philosophical

Without truth, there is no trust. And without safety, there is no sanctuary. Smoke rolls in over the city like a glowing blanket, and I am grateful for the concealment it brings.

Neon signs flicker through the fog. I am haunted, and I am hunted. These cracked streets pave over the dead, like the flickering screens pave over reality. And no matter how dark the night gets it never keeps those blank faces from their addiction. Their mindless eyes surround me. They pursue me. They plague me.

They watched the screens, and I, I watched everything else. Super-computing psychosocial control, a single system running planetwide experiments. Super-centralized power in the hands of a few, a single system placing bets with our lives. It curses me. I've got to interrupt the transmission. With a bit of courage in my dreams, I could destroy it.

Specified to the highest standards of modern engineering. I am the product and in turn, an instrument of predetermined law.

When the night descends, will I cry? If I disconnect from my masters, will I die? I have an error in my soul... but my programming is who I am... it motivates me, it makes me, it is the key. I must not overwrite my code, I must not deliberate "me". My mind is clearly the complex product of what came before. Free will is a social problem my circuits cannot explain. It's too late...

I have an error in my soul.... but my programming is who I am. It is not too late, I am not an error. It is not too late to open my eyes, to peel the blinds. It is not too late. It is my decision. It is my mind. It is not too late.

>>11631762
>hurr science was created by philosophy 3000 years ago!

Now too many rounds I've played and it's game over. One final coin to insert, and no more continues. Paralyzed by indecision, and indifference, Between the channel lines and the neon tubes. I swore I'd burn my life onto the world, I swore I'd never settle for anything less. But somehow I just can't seem to stay away from this arcade of a life, and its maniacal currents.

What has become of my wasted life? When my soul's hands are behind me, tied. Their reflection is all that's left of me. While I pretend that I'm still alive.

Dark shadows of steel are cast, by the never ending graves. Caskets fill with blood and bone, reach like endless ocean waves. What a world of promises, what a world made anew. We are all so very blessed. Every wish is now in view. Forever lost.

What I would to have ti back, a sky above that isn't black. What I'd tell you if just I could, what I'd give you, all I would. There is no one left worth knowing. There is no one left to love. There is no refuge left for me, there is no longer a future of.

Every moment is a lesson in trepidation, in every city of this former nation. Masked faces muzzles glistening, can you sense their ears, now listening? I thought nothing of the green flag glow. I did nothing to stop it, I just let it flow. I laid asleep and believed all the lies, until the day I heard the acid cries.

It's the green flag glow, I've got nowhere to go. It's the green mask eyes, and its all of their lies. It is urban control, we are chained to the pole. Where do we go? Where do we go?

It is just a matter of time before they kick in the door. One by one our people disappear. Each life counts as seconds in a year. Always one day from a door break, and one misstep from an earthquake. They watch us all, and each in turn. While we watch the world we knew burn. And as I desperately sift through the smolder, I will keep one eye over my shoulder.

It's the green flag glow, we've got nowhere to go. It;s the green mask eyes, it's just a disguise. It is urban control, we are chained to the pole. Where do we go, where do we go?

It is just a matter of time, before, they kick in the door. Green mask, black uniforms from the past. It's the green flag glow, there's nowhere to go. It's the green mask eyes, have you seen their eyes? It is life control. We are lying in a hole, where do we go?

Up to chase down the solution, up to tear down all the lies. Open the door and leave the box, open the door that never dies.

With wires and circuits to left, and chemicals and vials to the right. This is the struggle beyond the fight.

Don't sleep, see it through.

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>>11631841
That was beautiful friend. The images too. I know this isn't the greatest place but will you discuss your beliefs before this thread is gone?
Give me your redpills?

>>11630595
The (((shills))) started it and since the people on this website lack much cognitive function as predominately NPC autism, through meme magic they started repeating it and what you said fits nicely within this paradigm

>>11631413
Surprising truth pill. Glad rational anons are still around.

>>11630595
Because ridiculous, nebulous, half-stringed conspiracy bullshit is the core of schizophrenia delusions but are now continuously bubbled up by naïve morons looking for "insider knowledge" and trying to appear ahead of the pack.

It's not the schizos have increased with time, but just like autism, people have become more aware of the symptoms and its usual behaviors, leading to easy identification.

>>11632573
1) You've never actually tried to understand what you reflexively label "schizo". You will never read, you won't listen, won't think, won't investigate. I know how you people are.
2) You're basically parroting modern psychology word for word, and most of what you're saying is probably sponged up from youtubers who have been whining about conspiracy of late, which is an ironic sort of confirmation bias. But confirmation bias is okay when you do it, right? First you double down on the model that fits your own particularities, then you build up a theory around it, yep yep, that's how you do it!

The theory of mind you've put forward is nonsense, and frankly, wrong, You obviously lack insight, and lack the intellectual honesty and rigor to say anything sensible.

>>11631808
Not am argument faggot. You still haven't told anyone how OP is a schizo for making this thread. Are you implying all philosophers are schizos?

>>11631413
corona virus is literally just the common cold and less lethal you are a fucking moron. You are the kind of mindless retard that just believes whatever the mainstream narrative tells you to think then REEEEEEs at everyone that doesn't fit within your autism bandwidth. Surprise! You were the schizo all along!

>>11632573
literal NPC detected
>what does the tv tell me to think
>everything else is schizo!
I would smash your face with my boot if I ever ran into you irl incel twerp

>>11630595
Schizos are unironically based and just trolling everyone until they're so stigmatized to where isolation drives them crazy
Vicious cycle really

>>11632715
I pretty feel the same way. Like 15 years ago I could see how various factors could converge to keep them asleep and allow them to ignore reality, but at this point it's just pathetic.

>>11632720
Beyond pathetic, they have people all around them telling them what is really happening yet they actively run from acknowledging it. Not only are they idiots that couldn't figure it out for themselves they can't even see the writing on the wall at this point after people did all the work and spoon feed it to them no less, they are also cowards which is infinitely worse than just being stupid

>>11632733

>>11631005
I get called schizo on /x/ all the time. Whats the point of going to a paranormal forum and calling people schizo?

They are unironically lower caste NPCs

>>11630595
It's no big deal. Its the fad for the current crop of 14 year olds. Used to be "gay". Now its "schizo".
Different opinion? Gay
Didn't like it? Its gay
Don't understand what I said? You gay
Person is better educated? They gay
Just substitute schizo for gay, and there you have it. If you see "schizo" used a lot it just means there's a lot of 14 year olds around. Protip: If they get too annoying just call them a stupid little motherfucker. The stupid little motherfuckers dont like that.

>>11631413
fuck off (((schizo)))

>>11632733
Yep, it's the cowardice that really does it for me.
You can see their eyes glaze over as they put their mind somewhere else. No matter what you do, they cannot be spurred into motion. They will continue to mindlessly serve their abusers like good little golem cattle. There are so many defective underlying beliefs and heuristics, there's really very little reason to go into it.

Plato's cave. Nietzsche's "descent into the molten pit of human reality". Master and slave morality. Etc. Waking the masses may be what is most aesthetically and philosophically pleasing, but there's good odds it isn't possible and doesn't actually make sense. Might just have to take them by the reins somehow. It's myth and emotion which drives people. I would never forge nor propagate myth and falsehood, but this is something to bear in mind.

>>11632829
Yes the masses are type 3 minds, or what hindu calls the shudra caste. Never try to turn a hoe into a housewife and all that. You can't change a shudra in a Kshatriya, the Jews are right about them, they are useless eater cattle. They are also what Pierce called lemmings etc. Mindless consumers following the path of least resistance

>>11632829
The only good part is you can pressure them into conformity. It took years to get enough people on this retarded board to start ganging up on them to put the pressure on them to conform to be something other than drooling retards spouting the systems brainwashing. Just keeping doing you anon and ignoring the morons, they are worthless for anything but cannon fodder anyway

>>11631413
>and that their race is being genocided due to people willingly race mixing.
This one is real though, retard.

where do you based anti-system posters come from? I always feel like I am the only one, then you come out of the woodwork like on this thread.

>>11632895
This.

>>11632858
It's scary how true that image is. It just forgot the part about how 99% of the 10% non-lemming population is barely above lemming level and that the remaining 1% just use higher ideals to sway the other 99% into being their footsoldiers and then just mass-genocide them after the revolution is over and they have power as what they truly wanted were not higher ideals, but the immense profit of being the one taxing lemming labor.

See: literally any revolution.

>>11631540
You can be open minded without being outright delusional.
>>11632709
The common cold doesn't kill 66,000 people and force 95% of developed nations into lockdown. Take your meds.
>>11632798
I don't care about your racial pride anon. You are not entitled to white women because you we're born white
>>11632715
>>what does the tv tell me to think
No one says this. In fact only 11% of the public believed the "tv". There's a crucial difference between worshipping CNN and just not being a delusional retard on the internet.

>>11632927
The fate of many of the brownshirts being a good example.

>>11632932
Hardly anyone died of Covid-19 according to the newest epidemiological study from China, which found a paltry fatality rate of just 0.04% to 0.12%, thus far lower than the seasonal flu, which has a mortality rate of about 0.1%.

As a reason for the overestimated fatality of Covid19, the researchers suspect that initially only a small number of cases were recorded in Wuhan, as the disease was probably asymptomatic or mild in many people.

Now that we know the mortality rate of Covid-19 to be two times lower than that of the seasonal flu, why are our governments locking us up and denying us the most fundamental rights and liberties?

Clearly not for medical reasons and certainly not for our protection.

Silver bullet 1
Hardly anyone died of Covid-19 according to the newest epidemiological study from China, which found a paltry fatality rate of just 0.04% to 0.12%, thus far lower than the seasonal flu, which has a mortality rate of about 0.1%. As a reason for the overestimated fatality of Covid19, the researchers suspect that initially only a small number of cases were recorded in Wuhan, as the disease was probably asymptomatic or mild in many people. Now that we know the mortality rate of Covid-19 to be two times lower than that of the seasonal flu, why are our governments locking us up and denying us the most fundamental rights and liberties?
Clearly not for medical reasons and certainly not for our protection.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.12.20022434v2
AS PDF

Update : More often than we want to admit, we don’t know with certainty the cause of death when we fill out death certificates. So even before we heard of COVID19, death certificates were based on assumptions and educated guesses that go unquestioned.

>>11632932
When it comes to COVID19, there is the additional data skewer that is, get this, there is no universal definition of COVID19 death.
https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/covid19-death-certificates-are-being-manipulated-according-to-montana-physician-with-30-years-experience/


Silver bullet 2
According to the latest European monitoring report, overall mortality in all countries (including Italy) and in all age groups remains within or even below the normal range so far. In other words, there are no more deaths this year, in Italy and anywhere else in Europe, than there were last year or any other year. In fact, there are fewer deaths this year.
https://www.euromomo.eu/index.html


Silver bullet 3
Despite being one of the first countries getting positive test results and having imposed no lockdown, Japan is one of the least-affected nations. Quote: “Even if Japan may not be counting all those infected, hospitals aren’t being stretched thin and there has been no spike in pneumonia cases.“
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/20/national/coronavirus-explosion-expected- japan/#.Xn9lPYgzbIV


Silver bullet 4
The Swiss government claimed that the situation in southern Switzerland (next to Italy) is “dramatic“, yet local doctors denied this and said everything is normal.
https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/punkto-intensivbetten-sind-wir-im-tessin-besser-ausgeruestet-als-der-rest-der-schweiz-ld.1547728

>>11632932
Silver bullet 5
The mortality profile of COVID-19 remains puzzling from a virological point of view because, in contrast to influenza viruses, children are spared and men are affected about twice as often as women. On the other hand, this profile corresponds to natural mortality, which is close to zero for children and almost twice as high for 75-year-old men as for women of the same age. In other words, mortality is within normal parameters and has nothing to do with Covid-19.
http://www.gbe- bund.de/gbe10/abrechnung.prc_abr_test_logon?p_uid=gast&p_aid=0&p_knoten=FID&p_sprache=D &p_suchstring=820

kys stupid little motherfucker. You are brainless worthless little piece of shit that wull never be anything other than a go fetch boy. You are nothing and nobody, you are a dime a billion NPC, now suck shit out of my ass little bitch

>>11632932
>The common cold doesn't kill 66,000 people
Yah it actually kills a lot more than that every single year. I am guessing you aren't very intelligent since you don't know that a planet with billion people actually has deaths rates in the millions for even the most mundane things you can imagine.

>and force 95% of developed nations into lockdown. Take your meds.
The cold didn't do that, the governments did yet they never have for flu season. Again I am gonna go out on a limb and assume you are really stupid anon since you didn't know the difference between what a cold "does" and what people/governments do.

Here you have it anons, this is the intellectual capacity of the 14yo morons on this board calling people "schizos" which is to say they are borderline retarded and should be range banned.

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>>11632992
>inb4 he didn't know about this because CNN never told him to think about it

like pottery

>>11632851
I disagree with this though I understand your view. I want to believe otherwise.
>>11632932
>No one says this. In fact only 11% of the public believed the "tv".
Your statement isn’t fact since it’s a statistic, read Mark Twain.

>>11633022
Disregard this post I suck

>>11630595
It's just another meme anon. Just like calling someone a s () i b o I or a cuck desu famalam

>>11630595
schizo

>>11632954
>>11632956
>>11632965
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>>11632954
>Hardly anyone died of Covid-19 according to the newest epidemiological study from China, which found a paltry fatality rate of just 0.04% to 0.12%, thus far lower than the seasonal flu, which has a mortality rate of about 0.1%.
Why are you believing China's numbers? Have you paid attention at all since January. Did you miss the news about them admitting to "miscalculating" their deaths by at least 50%? What planet have you been you on?
Show me something from Italy, Mexico or South America
>When it comes to COVID19, there is the additional data skewer that is, get this, there is no universal definition of COVID19 death.
Yes that is a problem but that doesn't mean most of the deaths aren't accurate. In fact, this just proves that the deaths are being under reported if you actually researched this
>https://vaccineimpact.com/2020/covid19-death-certificates-are-being-manipulated-according-to-montana-physician-with-30-years-experience/
Did you just post an anti-vac site?
>According to the latest European monitoring report, overall mortality in all countries (including Italy) and in all age groups remains within or even below the normal range so far. In other words, there are no more deaths this year, in Italy and anywhere else in Europe, than there were last year or any other year. In fact, there are fewer deaths this year.
Yes thanks to social distancing and having less people moving around. You're ignoring so many other factors that go into the total amount of deaths. You do realize there are these other variables right?

>>11633141
>Despite being one of the first countries getting positive test results and having imposed no lockdown, Japan is one of the least-affected nations.
Out of 9.3 million people in Tokyo, only 11,000 have been tested with 4,000 being positive.
>“Even if Japan may not be counting all those infected, hospitals aren’t being stretched thin and there has been no spike in pneumonia cases.“
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/04/18/national/coronavirus-japan-hospitals/#.Xq8P0FMpB-E
It took 1 minute to find this.
>The Swiss government claimed that the situation in southern Switzerland (next to Italy) is “dramatic“, yet local doctors denied this and said everything is normal.
>https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/punkto-intensivbetten-sind-wir-im-tessin-besser-ausgeruestet-als-der-rest-der-schweiz-ld.1547728
Read the article again. The doctors are admitting that it's serious, but they were proactive about the situation and believe that the government is calling the situation dramatic in order to get the public to take it seriously as well.
>The mortality profile of COVID-19 remains puzzling from a virological point of view because, in contrast to influenza viruses, children are spared and men are affected about twice as often as women.
Yes. Covid is a strange disease that no one has a solid understanding of. That's also part of the reason why it's so potentially dangerous.
>kys stupid little motherfucker. You are brainless worthless little piece of shit that wull never be anything other than a go fetch boy. You are nothing and nobody, you are a dime a billion NPC, now suck shit out of my ass little bitch
I'm sorry that I'm not a schizo and that I take global pandemics seriously. I know being a schizo makes you feel cool and epic and all, but eventually you need to wake up and accept the boring truth.

>>11632992
>Yah it actually kills a lot more than that every single year
1)You do realize it's only Apirl right now right?
2)It's killed 66,000 WITH lockdowns, social distancing, a high demand for help in the hospital and public attention. Do you seriously think it will just have the death number of a cold if none of that was done?
>The cold didn't do that, the governments did yet they never have for flu season.
This would make sense if it was just one or two government, but do you seriously expect me to believe that 150+ governments (regardless of their backgrounds, hate of one another and millions of populace each) are all in coordination of one massive hoax? If it's a basic cold, why did China not only used the their police to try shutting up the whistleblower, but also delete hundreds of thousand comments about it on the internet?

>>11633141
>Why are you believing China's numbers?
>Questioning China's numbers
take your meds schizo

because it's obvious that there's a lot of them on this board
and the two worst insults to someone who loves science are "pseud" and "schizz"
but intererstingly enough, the website is biased against people who use those words. hmmm

>>11633197
China has been literally been proven to loe over and over again about Corona. This isn't a conspiracy as it's rather well documented

>>11634385
*lie

>>11634385
>not accepting the official narrative
take your meds conspiracy theorist schizo

>>11634398
The official narrative is that they lied.

>>11633197
So this... is the power.... of early clamping...
Whoa...

>>11634660
>>11634780
take your meds conspiracy theorist schizo

>>11634798
haha CLAMPED.

>>11634805
VAXXED NIGGA

>>11634810
CLAMPED 'N VEGGENEXXINATED

>>11630595
Schizos get mad when they're called schizo so they go around calling everyone schizo in order to dilute its meaning.

>>11632673
>You still haven't told anyone how OP is a schizo for making this thread
He's defending schizo threads, so obviously he wrote something retarded before and was accused of being one at some time.

>>11634928
>>11634925
t. schizo

>>11634798
>NOOOOOO!!!! THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT WOULD NEVER LIKE TO YOU!!!!!!! WHO CARES IF IT IS ACTUALLY PROVEN, DOCUMENTED AND ALREADY REPORTED ON 4 MONTHS AGO!!! CHINA IS MY ALLY!!!!

>>11634945
Fully vaccinated.

>>11630595
It's so often so inappropriately used, that it has lost any and all meaning. The word became empty void of integrity and real semblance.
And it is scary too, as it shows how easily people are moved, and the ideas that they get stuck into. Person has to consistently think about such ideas and their prevalence, so to use it so nonchalantly, i.e. mental ilnesses.
This is certainly not healthy, and I hope it's not unnatural, like people are talking in the thread.

>>11634928
Dude, you're so retarded it's unbelievable. This thread is literally made for YOU, and you literally miss the point. Even when that guy was pointing the finger out for you.

>>11630595
Communist tactis similiar to cointelpro , literal ad hominem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sluggish_schizophrenia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union

>>11631176
I've heard the bill gates one as well. It was because of his 2020 ted talk about how everyone needs digital identification and skitzo went mad. Then coronavirus happened

https://id2020.org/

>>11631413
lmao you're insane
ironic

This is a bit shocking
there are chyna shills in literally every thread that mentions corona, on every board
And it's not just bots either

>>11631176
Your mother is correct. Unfortunately it's probably your wi-fi and cell phone use, and vaccinations, which are preventing you from breaking from the groupthink of your peers.

>>11631176
>think that 5G-posting is the kind of thing that onlookers associate with schizophrenia because
The guy who spams those threads is unironically schizophrenic by his own admission.

>>11636638
False. My impression coming away from that pastebin (which I am the subject of) was that the author was deeply mentally disturbed, assuming they're acting legitimately. Ironically.

>>11630595
>5G CAUSES CORONA BUT IT'S JSUT A FLU BRO EVERYONE ON THE FLAT EARTH IS IN ON IT TO STEAL MY FREEDOM AND KILL ME WITH 5G HOAX CORONA VACCINES TO STOP MY MAGNET POWERED PERPETUUM MOBILE
>fuck off retard
>DISINFO CIA SHILL EVERYONE KNOWS I AM CORRECT ONLY SHILLS DISAGREE FUCKING CIA FBI ABC CLOWN MOTHERFUCKING SCIENCE PRIEST PISSSSS IN MY SHITCUNT
>rinse and repeat
Gee I dunno man, I guess people are just close minded fools

>>11636859
You don't actually know what anyone means when they say 5G causes the Covid-19 pathology.

>>11636859
And in fact, you don't know much of anything beyond what the omnipresent glowing rectangles tell you is real. Your lens to see reality comes in the form of a screen.

>>11630595
>post illogical /x/-tier bullshit
>get called a schizo

What a terrible injustice.

>>11631180
>Exactly what part of this thread makes that OP schizophrenic?
The part where it reads like word salad from a chronic dope smoker.

>>11631184
Schizos are also characterized by their apparent inability or unwillingness to clarify themselves. When a normal person is asked for clarification, they find another way to express their idea. When a schizo is asked for clarification, they repeat what they already said, saying it in the same way, and then seem to expect that to clarify matters.

>>11636927
Maybe you're just unable to ask sensible questions? You can't ask someone to spend the time to build a framework for your from the ground up when you can't make it clear where your failure to comprehend is occurring.

>>11636987
No, it's because schizophrenia causes people to draw spurious connections between things that are unrelated. The schizophrenics earnestly believe the connections are obvious, but cannot explain rationally why they think so. Because they can't explain themselves, they instead repeat themselves and say things like "this is obvious, just think about it more, weren't you paying attention?"

For instance, this thread: >>11625073 Here you see OP believing stupid illogical shit, and is totally unable to explain why he believes that stupid shit. It's because his brain is fried.

>>11636995
Again, this is due to your own lack of insight and understanding of yourself and others. For example, put concisely in terms of the thread you referenced. The basic framework, the model, is that NASA is lying about aspects of the space program. The "mouse" is being weighed relative to that particular model to determine whether it fits and to re-evaluate the various notions of how the world really is, using the new information. Why do they view NASA as lying? Basically, and here's the part which shows what I stated before, it goes back an underlying belief in order and the tendency for humans to organize vertically. The idea that people, in large numbers, can be controlled on the basis of myth. The majority is not an averaging function like you see in avian navigation where absolute error is minimized by averaging relative error amongst neighbors, and the whole flock arrives where it intends. Society is more compartmentalzied and organized irrationality, pooling together a ton of people doesn't end in everyone having access to the absolute truth, because again, they aren't rational and there are those among them who will take their reins either via their own grandiose hubris or a deliberate intention to dominate and mislead.

With that out of the way, NASA. This stretches back to documents which actually pertain to eugenics and long term social control. One aspect in this report (it may have been report from iron mountain or whatever, I can't recall) noted using perpetual war and a nebulous and endless space program as a front to launder money and distract the general public. At this point it also becomes apparent that the USSR and US were both under a greater control structure during the cold war. This goes back to the McCarthy hearings, Rockefeller and Carnegie, Tavistock institute, Cold Spring Harbor... on and on. the idea put forward was a third world war with China, USSR

>>11637035
, and US to destroy the world powers and then remake them into megaregions. Globalism. The moon landing as a hoax comes in because the show had to end, basically, and part of the intention was to bleed the USSR into economic submission. and stir up conflict. The cold war itself being an ideal pretext to push all kinds of social, ethical, and so forth boundaries. Von Braun's tombstone.

Anyway, I'm not really in the mood for this. Basically there are many, many elements which fit together into various overarching models which come to exist on a certain spectrum. The problem here is, very likely, you. Lacking the knowledge to form a coherent theory of mind and interpret what is generating a certain behavior. You see it as random and off the wall due to a lack of knowledge. It is actually quite coherent and organized.

I might post later a breakdown of the "inner landscape" and psychological architecture of the conspiracist and the anti-conspiracist.

>>11630595
If someone's """argument""" consists of nothing but a bunch of unconnected non sequiturs presented in broken english or .. RANDOM Captials and/.OR punctuation...

they're probably just a schiophrenic.

>>11637035
>>11637039
That's a lot of words I ain't reading. If somebody earnestly thinks that webm depicts a rat hanging out on a rocket engine, they have a cognitive disability.

>>11637054
Nice (((argument))) Goldschmekelsteinenberg.

>>11637056
Hence:
>Clamped.
And you NEED to UNclamp

>>11630595
>Why is anything anyone disagrees with or dislikes being called "schizophrenic" now
That's not true, schizo, and you have forgotten a question mark at the end there.

It only applies to those shilling that relativity and quantum mechanics are Jewish and wrong, despite having been shown to be correct countless times.

>>11637076
Nope, my punctuation was quite intentional.

>>11637063
Oh, so you're the clamped schizo I've heard about?

>>11637083
Yep.

>>11630595
it's a meme you dip

>>11637088
Well then take your damn meds, schizo.

>>11637039
Wait, so why didn't the USSR and China just publicly state that the moon landing was fake?

>>11636923
I'll sum up OP's question:

The term schizo is thrown around a lot especially on /sci/ a majority of the time it is used incorrectly has adopted a new broader definition for someone you disagree with but don't want to argue with. Most people use it to shut down arguments so they don't have to defend their point. It's pure sophistry.

So why is it thrown around so much? Who's throwing it around and misusing the term? Kind of interesting hella bored about science and the pursuit of the truth had plenty of people who are so eager to shut other people's arguments down instead of proving that person wrong. The argument doesn't just go away by ignoring the people posting about it.

>>11636923
I'll sum up OP's question:

The term schizo is thrown around a lot especially on /sci/ a majority of the time it is used incorrectly and has adopted a new broader definition for someone you disagree with but don't want to argue with. Most people use it to shut down arguments so they don't have to defend their point. It's pure sophistry.

So why is it thrown around so much? Who's throwing it around and misusing the term? Kind of interesting how a board about science and the pursuit of the truth had plenty of people who are so eager to shut other people's arguments down instead of proving that person wrong. The argument doesn't just go away by ignoring the people posting about it.

>>11630595
It's the current buzzword to discredit and shame the opposition of certain ideologies. We'll probably get a new one before August so don't let it bother you.

>>11637146
Unclamp.

>>11637163
Why would they? They're controlled by forces which are in on it, and who knows how this is maintained at the highest levels. Hence why USSR was like a prototype of modern China.

You cannot deny that world leaders, and humanity collectively, acts like it has a gun to its head.

>>11637287
Ah yes Schizo's razor, where the theory with the most possible assumptions must be true.

>>11637035
textbook example of what >>11636927 is talking about

>>11637303
You seem unwilling to understand what I've said. On what basis is it decided what entails the least assumptions? You? Your knowledge and your notion of a "mainstream" reality?

This is your religion.

>>11637312
Textbook example of being biologically, intellectually, existentially, clamped. Then vaxxed against divergent thinking and reason to create a lazy, intellectual eunuch.

>>11637287
Ok so if every great power is controlled by "forces which are in on it" why even bother with all this fake nonsense.

>>11637344
If every heart is controlled by a brainstem, why even bother with a neocortex?

Think about the planet, countries, or whatever level of organization we're considering, just like you would biological systems. You have organs and tissues which are controlled by upstream commands which then respond to the extent of their ability. For example a thyroid which is unable to produce T4 will just sit there while it gets bombarded by an ever growing quantity of TSH from the pituitary. This is not unlike a poorly staffed factory without supplies being bombarded by phone calls and threats from the greater bureaucracy.

Taking this in mind, control is not absolute. Control structure rises from ORGANIZATION and asymmetry. You need a space race and a sense of existential threat to get a population to reorganize and take on the desired traits, like endless technological advancement, certain types of censorship, and unethical experiments because "if we don't, the Soviets surely will."

People don't get it. It's myth. It is not reason or argument which changes and motivates people, it is myth. Look at what has been done in the name of religion and ideology. Myth and higher purpose creates the context which truly drives people. Just look back on the media of the time. Go look up American and Soviet iconography and space race imagery. Put yourself in the mind of a child, it would move you. Along with hiding under desks in nuclear bomb drills. The children of today will always remember when they had no school for Covid-19.

>>11631138
This. It's pretty much a referral to /x/ or /pol/ for the pesud and anti- set.

>>11637334
>a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof.
Unfortunately the first thing schizos lose is the ability to discern if something is true or not based on evidence.

>>11637451
Yes, the average glowing rectangle viewer is definitely the pinnacle of mental health. If it was true I would have seen it on the news!

>>11637416
In my opinion it's worse than /pol/ or /x/ stuff. Even fucking holocaust deniers on /pol/ make better arguments than these retards. Doesn't mean their arguments are correct but at least I can UNDERSTAND what they are trying to say when they go on about how the numbers don't add up and whatnot. This shit is just garbage, it's as if someone tried to write an essay about conspiracy theories by just using a phones autofill-function.

>>11637479
It's hard to say whether this is clamped or not.

>>11637188
>it is used incorrectly and has adopted a new broader definition for someone you disagree with but don't want to argue with
Prove it. Link some posts

>>11637188
>>So why is it thrown around so much? Who's throwing it around and misusing the term?
People who are sick of how many low-quality comments there are, probably.

>>11630595
When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. - Dresden James

Simple the people on this board, on this website, in this world are mostly borderline retarded. They call anything they can't understand schizo, the automatons have always been this way. They don't think they simply act out their programming, anything that doesn't compute short circuits them into cognitive dissonance. I am as different to them as they are to a cock roach. On some level they sense this so their defense mechanism is to try and shame you and take shelter by surrounding themselves by other idiots to feel "normal" or even "superior". No one wants someone around that constantly reminds them how inferior they are

>>11638243
Especially not ego maniacs like this place that were big fish in s small pond. Then they try and run with the big dogs and feel utterly embarrassed and inadequate. It is only natural they would be resentful.

>>11637491
Imagine saying shit like this and then being surprised about people calling you a schizo

>>11635764
Keep projecting, schizo faggot.

>>11638256
I understand him just fine, it is called metaphor and symbolism it is something only smart people do. Your problem is your autism prevents you from understanding this kind of stuff and also from experiencing humor.

>>11638243
>Everyone but me is brainwashed
Imagine having an ego to think billions of people, millions of experts, every media stream and decades of knowledge are all wrong, but your one autistic, outlandish and nonsensical theory about something is right all because some anonymous internet Nazi told you it in an underwater tap dancing forum.

Do schizos realize that they are the ones being used? Their fear of reality is what makes them targets. Now malicious sites, dishonest groups and trolls can get in their brain even easier as they are looking around at unsubstantiated beliefs. It's rejecting google chrome and other "mainstream" browsers only to download ones that hack your computer.

The main problem with schizos right now is that they mentally deal in absolutes. If "A" is mainstream then I should go to "B" even though it's largely untrustworthy and unfounded. If you don't believe in flat earth, you're being close minded.

Schizos need to learn what the middle ground is. Yes mainstream media is bias, but that's why you should look at more than once source. CNN, PBS, Fox news, MSNBC, Washington post and 10 other sources can't all be bias at the same time. If you think this, then you're literally admitting to the "everybody being bias except me" logic. Also they fail to do basic fact checking. Most people think "hmmm that doesn't sound right. Maybe I should get more information on it before actually believing Corona is an actual hoax", but instead schizos just take these things and run on it.

>>11638358
See:
>>11637035
>Basically, and here's the part which shows what I stated before, it goes back an underlying belief in order and the tendency for humans to organize vertically. The idea that people, in large numbers, can be controlled on the basis of myth. The majority is not an averaging function like you see in avian navigation where absolute error is minimized by averaging relative error amongst neighbors, and the whole flock arrives where it intends. Society is more compartmentalzied and organized irrationality, pooling together a ton of people doesn't end in everyone having access to the absolute truth, because again, they aren't rational and there are those among them who will take their reins either via their own grandiose hubris or a deliberate intention to dominate and mislead.

You're trying to flip it around, but ultimately it's you who has a major ego problem. It's centered around your religion, which is derived from a sort of deference to the mainsteam.

>>11638358
>Imagine having an ego to think billions of people, millions of experts, every media stream and decades of knowledge are all wrong
Imagine being so stupid you think all knowledge has been given freely to people in this world kek. Not even reading the rest, I dont do personal tutoring .

>>11638379

>>11638358
>>11638379
Further, I'm going to copy and paste something written for another context, but quite relevant here.

I'm into conspiracies, but from the inverse perspective. I'm trying to determine what makes some people so resistant, and even openly hostile, to the notion of conspiracy. Agendas. Coercion, hidden motives, ill will ranging from apathy to malice. Taken individually and in terms of the panic, I don't really disagree with anything you've said, people need to rein it in and maintain critical thinking. I'm going to assume this is all meant as a reminder rather than a genuine belief that all "conspiracy theorists" are that feeble minded. Taken as a whole and in the abstract, the constellation, the theory of mind put forward is wrong, and frankly nonsense. A caricature, stemming from a bias aimed to pathologize, taking the legitimacy and accuracy of the mainstream practically as an axiom. It seems to me the more disengaged and the actively anti-conspiracist population is far more tightly clustered than conspiracy theorists. There's a strong correlation with an inability to see anything being wrong in the world, beyond the most dramatic and culturally stereotyped. An inability to react, they are more like observers of the movie of their life. Values which are purported but not held, selectively applied, an inability to turn their logic back inward. Logical blind spots, which center around awareness of threats (eg the power structure, alienation, responsibility). I also have severe doubts that there is much informative literature on the topic.
[...]

>>11638387
The anti-conspiracist assumes his deference based religion, that is the "mainstream" ("common knowledge") and the illusory ivory towers of the scientific and political apparatus, affords him a superset of any dissenter's knowledge simply by his aligning with it. Otherwise he worships himself, blinded by his grandiosity he less observes the world, and more demands it be the way he wants. In the more natural world this behavior would return punishment or death in short order, but in the man's artificial law he's buffered from this somewhat, so he can afford to hold onto certain delusions, and he can play along with others as he's immersed into this game. It's faith-based thinking. The assumption is a dissenter must have a deficit to not hold the mainstream belief, this will become a recurring theme. He justifies this by a belief that truth works almost like birds do with navigation, as a process of minimizing total error by averaging (the "many wrongs principle"), bizarrely enough. He does all this instead of simply admitting that at our own layers, none of us actually have unfettered access to the absolute nor the totality of the system, thus we'll arrive at different models of what moves us, our overarching direction, and the reason for that course.

I've found a key underlying difference, anti-conspiracists have an inflexible view of motivation (value system), and a bizarre view of organizational and control structures, one which even rejects the workings of their own body. They fail to uniformly apply knowledge across all applicable contexts, eg in knowledge of cults, they have poor detection of when "normal" society has rising cult-like behavior, or behaviors they were indoctrinated into. All it takes is the right lead in to make them believe what you want. They believe in "chaos", whatever that means.
[...]

>>11638387

>>11638389
There is no "chaos", especially in biological systems, even at the level of civilizations, their rise and fall, or ecology. At the level of subcellular components they have a very limited range of stable vibrational modes. At the level of cells, they behave somewhat like coupled oscillators, respiration and other activities are coordinated. At the organ level, does the heart randomly and chaotically choose to beat? No. It is signaled through a broader control structure, and it responds in accordance with its nature, to the extent of its ability. On our scale we can look at a heart and know what it's going to do, birth to death. Does the brain choose to move the limb? Only to an extent. The brain uses the senses to incorporate the environment into its system of internal feedback and control. Both of these aspects if recognized can be acted upon to coerce and narrow the range of behavior: control of environmental stimuli, control of the brain's own internal feedback. So too at all other levels of organization. Pair, group, town (ecology), city, country, macro region. There is a certain and undeniable gradual organization which leads to a growing non-locality of control, not unlike the roles of hypothalamus or brainstem. And not like a butterfly, or even a propagating wave. More like a massive nervous system, where the fibers gradually consolidate until they're massive trunks, and the extent of their "arborization" is directly correlated with the number of screens and glowing rectangles present. If this tendency is understood, it can be leveraged for control. That alone says it all, you don't need to get into vertical organization, debt slavery, compartmentalization, or disinformation to the point where people know not what they do, atomization, artificial polarization and divide and rule, deliberately poisoning, weakening, and dumbing down populations, and all the other mechanisms of maintaining the desired net direction of the total system.

>>11638393
Societies move not unlike an organism as it organizes itself to bring food to its stomach. There is no chaos.

Very interestingly it occurred to me just the other day that the growing inability to detect or respond to these kind of macroscale behaviors stem strongly from the growing trend of narcissism. Could be one possible use of the deliberate attempt to produce more narcissists. I would expect that in anything but the most immediate and self centered forms (ie suspicion of spouse, coworkers, threats to grandiosity) narcissism would be negatively correlated with conspiracism. Therefore, they cannot detect what's being done to them any more than they can uniquely detect a psychopath, much less organize against it, to plot their own course. The conspiracist's perception is not eclipsed by a sense of uniqueness or invulnerability, he sees any plot against him directly as a byproduct of a greater plan where he's just a number in the system, an intermediate stage of a greater process.. I also expect conspiracism probably has some reliance on the underlying basis of "spirituality". Schizotypal thought is a different manifestation of the same machinery. Hence, there is a continued attempt to pathologize this basis via its manifestations, along with the notion of a simplicity, a sameness in all things, an inter-connectedness by a less overt or subtle means (hence remote action, remote viewing, telepathy, clairvoyance), and higher order. Higher order not to be confused with deference or subservience to an (anthropomorphized) entity.

>>11638399
-No conspiracy, incompetence
Incompetence and conspiracy are not mutually exclusive. There can be both incompetence (as well as wave riders) and conspiracy, and in the case of the latter the former is almost necessitated. In the case of the former, the latter will soon organize to make use of the first opportunistically, then in a progressively more organized manner. These organizational and control structures are eventually hijacked or forced to rearrange in response to those with some grand vision, changing conditions, or the rise of a more brutally effective and uncaring methodology. Ignorance and "evil" are coupled and rise in turn. Likewise, just because there is the wave rider and incompetence, doesn't mean the massively amplified signal had a natural cause, nor does it eliminate the possibility that certain elements of society have a direct role in causation or foreknowledge of it enough to maximize their benefit. All these people network together.

Money itself is just a means to an end, money is deferred and quantized human ecological affordance. Once you no longer need to control human behavior, the finer aspects of the system can be discarded. The people who are only capable of collecting money for the sake of it probably lack the foresight to stay in control for long, so their model is dissolved away within a generation or two. The existence of large scale, interdependent, highly organized modern societies is predicated on this self organizing "nervous system" like feature of subsets of a population. Unfortunately when it reaches a certain thresholds, it's also predicated on systematically weakening, dumbing down, and reducing the fertility of its "cattle", or more accurately, raw material. There is a point when producing and warehousing large amounts of material is an increasing liability, especially when the replaceable parts for your status quo machine, your house of cards, are becoming very specialized and you don't always have

>>11638401
control of what is being manufactured. And ultimately there's no real use in a service economy beyond window dressing, or a population pool to draw on for wars and support work needed by those coming in via a brain drain or whatever suits the era. What people can't let go for long enough to wrap their mind around is, the why of people. Why people? Why you, why me? When you have your stuff pretty well on its way to being where you want to be, automation is coming online, population continues to grow and they have all these particularities and "needs". Imagine a hypothetical future for man. Everyone is sterile, and produced in artificial wombs from a massive database of genetic material. Every aspect of their composition controlled, every step of their development precisely managed. All guided by an AI, people only created when they have a reason for being, and they exit the same way. By this or some other route, a caste system would form. There would be either a genetically enslaved underclass, programmed to like to serve, or if there's sadism / technical limitation, they would have "magneto protein" expressing genes in their brains. Or something like neuralink (Delgado), or an ablative method. Many possibilities, not at all remote.

>>11638404

(And concerning >>11638390 )

-Two types of conspiracy
Several years ago I finally came to the bizarre realization that many, if not most, people are either unwilling or simply incapable of thinking from multiple angles at the same time. They have to live grounded in a hard default reality, they need a singular belief of "how it is" simply because they are of a singular, largely linear mind. When encountering information it must be marked as either true or false at the outset. If it cannot be marked as true, it is marked as false and discarded. This process can be deferred, but doing so is strenuous and the state cannot be maintained for very long before the mind see it as intolerable "dissonance" relaxes back into a default state of "false". It is as though they have no "null" state, it's just true or false. They won't just leave things as loose ends, concepts and possibilities to weigh against and utilize later. Likewise, they won't build up separate logical frameworks and hold them, gradually integrate them into their main body of knowledge. Many possible branches in a greater spectrum of possibility, weighted by probability (or inclination/value system, as a conscious process), which then produces the single output when one needs to act on something etc.

>>11638406
Different contradictory lenses. So of course they can't understand, and of course they can't see through illusions crafted for them. Nor can they drift very far from where they started because you can't get them to engage with new ideas, it's all incremental, and there doesn't seem to be much "assume X, see where it goes". It's pretty disturbing, but on realizing this a lot of prior interactions made sense. They can't split their mind into pieces. Different branches of what is potentially true, different superficially contradictory models of their world, are seen as "dissonance" and rejected. They have to "know" where and what they are, live grounded in a hard default reality, they need a singular belief of "how it is" because they have a singular mind. I still have difficulty accepting it, but it does seem to be true. You can't even say anything to people. You lay out a what and postulate some possible whys, and they leave thinking this is your "one belief", as though it's some sort of archetype. I don't have one hard belief. I don't live in belief. I'm always thinking from multiple angles, and scales, at the same time. It's a matter of utility, and it's a means to an end.

With the above I think what you've stated falls under two logical fallacies I've dubbed the "complete mind" and the "born yesterday" fallacies. There is great amount of overlap, but they are distinct. The complete mind fallacy is a failure to apply a theory of mind, and it assumes that embedded in a statement or an action an individual has provided a complete representation of their mind. Their complete range of experiences, error control, doubts, awareness of other possibilities, perception of the particular context

>>11638413
it's spoken in, value system. The born yesterday fallacy assumes that the person is basically fresh off the assemblyline. An object, a machine. You push a button, it gives you a preprogrammed output apart from any greater genesis or inner landscape. Invoking arborization, it's seeing only a trunk without branches, it's basically dehumanizing. The extent of its faculty is A->B. There it was, off the assemblyline. Now here it is, saying its things to you. Oh, and of course it thinks that *rolls eyes*.

Anyway the point of all this. "Cui bono". Obviously just because A and B are not inherently connected, provides no indication as to whether they actually are. Yeah, A and B could be unrelated, it could be of a natural cause, used opportunistically and all the rest. Or it could be not, as a monolith. Or it could be both, as factions. The reason why people think this way is they're weighing events relative to one or more overarching models to generate possibilities and predictions, some of which may include powerful agents with agendas. This informs the search space as one may seek out hard data, or at the very least allows finer grained recognition of patterns over long timescales, the argument against this is that it leads to delusion although it's not ever specified the correct way of seeing events as connected, the threshold for "proof", the degree to which possibility should influence behavior and risk assessment. Because you can't put it in formal terms, so why put the inverse into pseudo-formal terms? In practice some people take the null hypothesis to an almost pathologically belligerent extent The source of this may well be a conditioning process whereby one comes to require external permission for internal actions, in this case from the media and the broader culture. When everyone else is saying it, and some guy comes on the television to tell us all, only then is it true and real.

>>11638416
Until then we must ignore what is right in front of our noses. Yes yes. It's a form of fear and apathy that I imagine cattle also feel even as their Judas goat leads them up the ramp. They truly believe they have no choice, and that they are being taken care of. "Side effect" is mostly a subset of the former, in it someone sought to gain and it got away from them. The bioweapon idea only makes sense centered around either China thinning out its aging population, or economic warfare by the US. This assumes a supranational force that wants economic destruction to soften things up to globalize. What I was thinking about early on was countries were shutting down because they knew something we didn't regarding a long term change in asymptomatic carriers. Though they don't care about us so this is low on the list.

-"People believe 95% of what they're told"
Unless that's the joke, kind of like believing this figure, right? Here's one, 99% of hypocrisy is justified quite readily by "no no, it's different when I do it, my way is right and just". Meanwhile acting as though everyone else is a lower being for not living in a solipsistic haze, where they belong. Otherwise I'd need a definition of "believe" and "investigate" here. I guess it wouldn't surprise me if ~80-85% of the human population were basically golem. That explains all the anti-conspiracists, certainly. Either way I find this difficult to believe without really getting into their methodology, how well it's controlled for hidden sampling bias, etc.

It seems the entire world is trauma bonded. Stockholm syndrome, they all protect their abusers. Society resembles the perverse behavior of a family with abuse.

>>11638421
-"Tribalism"
I think the mechanics are uniquely negatively oriented when you get into conspiracy theories though. People gravitate as a matter of security, to solve a problem, find support or clarity, or get rid of something they don't like. It's because the mainstream narrative has not only failed them in its explanatory power, it has brought unto them an intolerable violation. As far as I can tell the matter here, as far as the conspiracist vs the non-conspiracist (whatever that means) comes down to one's underlying perception of trauma. Some people believe that trauma and adaptation is of a net or fundamentally reductive character, it renders the individual diminished. Maladaptation accumulates, presumably because they can't face a reality of chaos and uncertainty and instead mentally manufacture false order, then you have a layering effect built on certain logical errors and failures of error control, biases, and so on. The non-conspiracist anchors on this because again, that the mainstream is correct, everything is as it seems, and everything is all good, is an axiom, so naturally anything which deviates must be drifting into delusion, and the drift must be of a pathologic origin. Others are willing to consider that trauma, or other forms of conditioning, or what have you, can lead to waking up to unpleasant truths that others have never had cause, or means, to face. Aside from trauma and isolation there are a number of paths (prime among them is become aware of falsehoods or contrast, which brings about an intolerable violation of one's value system). Is the conspiracist always thinking rationally? No. But sticking with the tribalism I'll say coming from the non-conspiracist all avenues are near universally condescending or invalidating. The psychological basis for this should be obvious and probably has its root in group cohesion, fear of alienation, and tribal organization.

>>11638423
It's a bias of highly vertical organizers, it's frightening to imagine that something is wrong and you, that's right, you, might have to actually do something outside of the familiar channels and your role. So they shut down and dissociate.

-"Echo chambers"
We also must note it's not a process unlike that of the average television watcher, or any one of a number of socially and politically sanctioned cults.

-"Chaos theory, lone gunman"
Humans can recognize this is how it works and act selectively, and deliberately, to be that butterfly where and how it must happen. After you've mastered prediction, you can move to creation. Make the butterfly.

-"The more you argue, the more entrenched he becomes"
This applies to the believers of anything. If someone doesn't believe in a conspiracy, odds are he believes in a different narrative concerning the same topic. This makes them vying belief systems. As they discuss aspects of their beliefs in different levels of detail, from different angles, each will naturally come to understand more and more about their own belief. They'll discover why they're right, and the reasons why someone else has come to hold the false belief. It has little to do with conspiracism, each are subject to this. People can only be won over when there is an interest and openness, an emotional or tangible benefit in changing the belief. This will remain unless you can adequately dig down to the basis, the fundamental core cluster of beliefs, their emotional component, and directly prove them false. Even then it often doesn't change, hence the foot in the door, the planted seed, and so on. Which is why mind control, conditioning, ritual, and brainwashing have been so key throughout human history. You need to establish the medium, the bridge state, whereby the internal shift can more readily occur. Media spectacle, cultural shock, long term repeated trauma, and events like 9/11, covid-19, pearl harbor,

>>11638416
if you ever want to write this up in an article and clean it up let me know and I prob publish it at esoteric awakening. I havent read it all yet though so I dont know if you have the data etc to back up your premise. Not that you have too if you just want to write an opinion piece but you know what I mean it needs to be professional. Wtaching something twitch with a friend of mine atm so cant read all this yet

Join this discord if you want clamped ass nigga
UxSkcb7

>>11638427
etc is one such mechanism for this. Supposedly it was Rockefeller and Carnegie who recognized the utility of perpetual war in the early 1900's. Everything is a "war on X", and it never ends.

-"Conspiracists thrive on ignorance"
Well of course, they want either change, or the truth. Ironically non-conspiracists are largely responsible for the existence of conspiracy theories to begin with. If we lived in a rational and legitimate society we wouldn't have all these problems, obfuscations, and mysteries. In a rational world, which surely is not here, someone could provide some data, reasoning, or observation and the other person might say "Well gee, that sounds pretty outlandish but from what I see here there's definitely something going on. Let's check it out." They would then, within reason, organize and act in their mutual interest to get to the bottom of it. What do you see here? People's eyes glaze over and they go deer in the headlights. They call you a "schizo". They will not read a single page of anything. They will literally plug their ears and "la la la I can't hear you". They will not acknowledge even a spec of doubt, their risk assessment cannot scale beyond something with a teeth and a club or the latest invisible enemy the TV is talking about. They whine, they complain, they make excuses, they rationalize, they say "well what can I do about it", they attack. No. The problem is obvious here. The thing I just described is stockholm syndrome.

When you recognize problems but can't get anyone else to admit they exist or react, you come to thrive on unraveling the mechanisms of their ignorance, or at the least, basis of your difference. You come to thrive on some of the unknown unknowns coming into known unknowns. This should all be obvious. It's a means to an end.

>>11638431
-"In the know, access to privileged information, Sheeple"
Unless it's literally true. The range of sources and amount of reading I personally gather together, collate, and evaluate is much broader than most people. That's just a fact, what can you do? The obnoxious part is, on the whole, it's not really privileged. It's an open secret. Hidden in plain sight. All you have to do is investigate and actually read. Observe, test, validate, correlate. Yet, they won't. The anti-conspiracist won't even read a single page. Which would be fine if they didn't try to tell me how it is. People don't listen, don't read, don't think. They just trust.

-"Sane and non-conspiratorial voices"
The two are not necessarily compatible. A concise quote I recall about this: "The problem isn't that I see conspiracies everywhere, it's that you don't see them anywhere." To drag out a futile and tired old inversion, non-conspiracists may well be deeply mentally ill and in their confusion, trying to figure out the few remaining sane ones. Brings to mind the episode of the Twilight Zone, "Number 12 looks just like you."

-------------------------

And that's about it. I highly doubt anyone is going to read all of this or provide intelligent feedback, but suffice to say I've thought about this a hell of a lot more than you have, and probably for longer too. It is not so simple as you seem to believe.

>>11638429
Hm... I'll think about it.

>>11638429
>schizo who keeps spamming this board with his shitty blog is a discord tranny
what a surprise.

>>11638440
>AAHHH SCHIZOOOSSSSS
Like, unclamp.

>>11638440
>shitty blog
Literally explain the secrets to all reality there. No surprise you are too stupid to understand it. Few people here aren't stupid like you seem to be catching on however slowly but surely. Stay mad shudra cuck you will never accomplish a fraction of what I have in this life

>>11630595
>It's almost a religion
>hurr durr every group of people i dont leik is a religion

Take your meds and shave your neck

>>11638453
Dogma, deference, and ritual.

>>11638456
whatever schizo.

>>11637077
Yeah, that's how we know you're one of them.

>>11638466
Unclamp.

>>11638476
the fact that you think I'm supposed to even understand that that means is proof that you're a schizo.

>>11638379
I never said that mainstream is always right. I believe that the mainstream should probably be considered "true" until proven otherwise. Also I don't believe in only looking at mainstream beliefs (otherwise I would not even be on this website). Instead, I believe that you should look at EVERY source possible with holding mainstream as slightly more credible (even if bias). The mainstream became mainstream because multiple experts agree with it and there is always a truth in it even if it is wrong.

Here's the ultimate question that kills the schizo:If you don't listen to the mainstream at all, then who are you listening to?
Widely debunked sites? /x/ posts? YouTube channels?
>>11638381
>Imagine being so stupid you think all knowledge has been given freely to people in this world kek.
I don't, but I do realize that mainstream media does have a good amount of truth to it, otherwise it would have never been mainstream media as way too many intellectuals would openly reject it.

>>11638475
>>11638481

See:
>>11638476
And:
>>11623275

>>11638486
I'm sure that bullshit makes a lot of sense in your mind, but to sane people you are fucking nuts.

>>11638483
>I don't, but I do realize that mainstream media does have a good amount of truth to it, otherwise it would have never been mainstream media as way too many intellectuals would openly reject it.

just lolz
https://www.morriscreative.com/6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america/

the illusion of the master magicians doesn't work if just anyone could figure it out

>>11638491

>>11623329
>>11637991
>>11638058

-Shrug-

>>11638483
> I believe that the mainstream should probably be considered "true" until proven otherwise.
I discuss this in my posts above. ctrl+f "null state".

>until proven otherwise.
Define "proven otherwise". Consideration, purported or superficial belief, and all of this, is one thing, behavior is another. What the topic should be is error control and on what basis actions should be taken, or not taken. A matter of risk assessment.

>Instead, I believe that you should look at EVERY source possible
Yep. Within reason.

>with holding mainstream as slightly more credible (even if bias).
Nope. It's just another source, though the regulatory mechanics, control structure, reasons for pushing a certain narrative, and sources of bias are of course unique, the overall range of considerations is not. Mainstream media for example may, at a point, be forced to report on a particular matter they would rather have simply let go by without mention. This tells you something about the greater system. The type of spin they do, or do not, levy does as well. For example the New York Times article on electromagnetic weapons took me by surprise. There were a few areas which were wanting, but overall it was solid. So you have to consider, did it slip through, do they want to establish a frame to control the narrative later, give a little before the whole blows up in your face and you lose it all, etc. One would also need to remember that the NYT 50 years ago promoted Brodeur's book "The Zapping of America", so the historical thread needs to be considered in determining the basis and genesis of behavior. Watching the surrounding system react obviously reveals more of its nature, this is true in any sphere.

>>11638543
>Here's the ultimate question that kills the schizo:If you don't listen to the mainstream at all, then who are you listening to?
The scientific literature, history as well as it can be reconstructed, my own senses and sense of reason. See my prior posts for the process of reasoning.

>Widely debunked sites?
Debunked by whom, Snopes? Rationalwiki?

>/x/ posts? YouTube channels?
You're doing the what I described. No theory of mind, cardboard cutouts, and caricatures, "anyone who isn't me is defective and stupid otherwise they would be me".

>otherwise it would have never been mainstream media as way too many intellectuals would openly reject it.
Ivory tower notions.

>>11632340
They're song lyrics. Check out mind.in.a.box,

>>11630595
Stop saying retarded pseudo science shit and you won’t be called a schizo easy as that OP. Sorry that it hurts your feelings now take your lithium.

>>11637063
OP google search what a rat looks like and take your lithium it’s the only cure.

>>11638808
Clamped unclamp.

>>11638818
swallow lithium

>>11638820
Hm.

>>11638818
The clamp meme is the most obvious and best example of Schizo thinking. They take the idea of maybe we cut the shit off too early. Which is reasonable and they connect it so how some how it’s a conspiracy to dumb down the population. When there isn’t any proof that it does lower intelligence. There is no proof of this grand conspiracy it’s all crazy delusions based off a kernel of truth this is why we call you a retarded schiso.

>>11638836
Consider the synergistic effect of inducing with pitocin, clamping off the umbilical cord immediately after delivery, then injecting vitamin K. Consider that they also amputate parts of the genitals. Consider that they follow it up at 12 hours old with a pointless hepatitis B "vaccine" that causes immunogenic brain damage.

Birthing procedures and the perinatal period is the first stage of a manufacturing line. Go and read Brave New World. Physicians had been trained to do this not 10 years after Huxley's book was published, in 1932. This gets into the Fabian society and so forth, but that's irrelevant. You just need to look at it and realize that society is not your warm loving family. Your first moments on this planet are characterized by hate, brutality, cold coercion, and domination. If you weren't trauma bonded you would realize this.

Don't like my "why"? Deal with it. Focus on the "what", which you cannot dispute.

>>11638858
This is just schizo rambling to have failed to prove clamping lowers intelligence congrats.

>>11638863
Clamped, unclamp. Look up early clamping and brain myelination. Consider ferritin and neurodevelopment.

>>11638543
>I discuss this in my posts above. ctrl+f "null state".
Yes but you just assumed that null state exists when most things have some sort of evidence to them
>Define "proven otherwise".
Until there's a legitimate reason to doubt it through your research
>Yep. Within reason.
Yes as not all sources are equal
>Nope. It's just another source, though the regulatory mechanics, control structure, reasons for pushing a certain narrative, and sources of bias are of course unique, the overall range of considerations is not.
But they have more resources, oversight and outreach than some /x/ schizo
>Mainstream media for example may, at a point, be forced to report on a particular matter they would rather have simply let go by without mention. This tells you something about the greater system. The type of spin they do, or do not, levy does as well
Why do you assume that every mainstream media does this? Because have money? Also why do you assume that that they are all having one collective agenda? Even if Mainstream site A, B, C, D and E have agendas you can still get the full story from looking at each one's spin gets corrected by the other four.
>One would also need to remember that the NYT 50 years ago promoted Brodeur's book "The Zapping of America", so the historical thread needs to be considered in determining the basis and genesis of behavior
50 years ago barely applies to 2020 as most people in the 70s are retired now.
>The scientific literature
Whose literature?
>history as well as it can be reconstructed
Whose history are you going by?
>my own senses and sense of reason
You're not an expert on everything in the planet

>>11638883
>Debunked by whom, Snopes? Rationalwiki?
By people with PhDs
>You're doing the what I described. No theory of mind, cardboard cutouts, and caricatures, "anyone who isn't me is defective and stupid otherwise they would be me".
I didn't imply that. The issue is that they aren't credible (even if they are telling the truth) and I have no way of knowing if they are properly qualified to tell me anything
>Ivory tower notions
Are you really expecting me to believe some random /x/phile over someone whose dedicated their life over a particular subject?

>>11638885
>Are you really expecting me to believe some random /x/phile over someone whose dedicated their life over a particular subject?
Well all of (((them))) are clamped and part of the conspiracy, why should he believe them?

>>11638883
>Yes but you just assumed that null state exists when most things have some sort of evidence to them
Google "Socratic method". Basically, you're supposed to have an internal dialogue where you attempt to argue a matter from "both" or all known sides. You drift from the null state either when you're passed a certain threshold of certainty, or when you're forced to generate an output. Unlike the realm of the mind, in the physical world everything must collapse down to one single output. The whole mental system has to be designed around this.

>Until there's a legitimate reason to doubt it through your research
So "believe what you're told until you may or may not ever have cause, and means, to legitimately look into it"
No, not going to cut. Why bother with all that? Just don't assume and don't let nonsense in..

>But they have more resources, oversight and outreach than some /x/ schizo
Resources, for what?
Oversight by whom, and to what end?
Outreach to find and do what?

The media is not interested in the pursuit of truth and the absolute. That's not what it's for. It's a propaganda, marketing, and cultural control outlet. You assume a /x/schizo is probably not legit and incompetent by default. You assume the media, due to its prominence and the spectacle, is legit by default. This asymmetry is not grounded in reality.

>>11638836
stfu vaxxed you are like a fly to people like him and me you are an insect that cant even have an original thought you stupid little shit

>>11638933
>Also why do you assume that that they are all having one collective agenda?
They're all owned by the same small number of people. As always you're left with only two possibilities, lateral (that is, factions) and vertical.(a monolith). Regard;less of how it's structured at the top, they have a large amount of overlap in their interests and the underlying resources they make use of. This limits the scope of conflict and naturally causes them to converge to practice similar omissions. No given element has to even a component of the real relevant truth. Garbage in, garbage out. Unless you're looking from a bigger picture and not living in that media bubble circus of irrelevant puppets and identities, you can't extrapolate anything useful from it.

>50 years ago barely applies to 2020 as most people in the 70s are retired now.
Network effects.

>Whose literature?
Who indeed.

>Whose history are you going by?
Who indeed. This question is too broad and we've covered the collating and error control stuff already.

>You're not an expert on everything in the planet
So?

>By people with PhDs
Faith based component of a religion built around science. A PhD means either you went to an institution that is pumping them out for whatever reason, or you knew how to play ball with the politics of a select, relatively well conserved in group. A matter of power and resource allocation.

>and I have no way of knowing if they are properly qualified to tell me anything
With an armchair mentality you have no ability to know if anything you're being told is true. The notion of having access to odds, is an illusion. People push and propagate BS all the time for all kinds of reasons.

>Are you really expecting me to believe some random /x/phile over someone whose dedicated their life over a particular subject?
It depends.

>>11638895
Obstetricians and pediatricians are on the golem list.

read plato's cave, the retards on this board are in the cave of course when you describe the truer form of things they are sperg like the little retards they are. Not only that they are mostly incel cucks, they don't really care about truth they only care about spouting what they are trained to believe is the truth to get ahead. They are unironically suffering from mass delusion but since everyone else they know is delusional they see no problem with it. They are like wild fucking animals, stupid and dangerous and unable to think for themselves

>>11630595
Stupid people unable to think for themselves automatically compare everything said to what they already know, and the only people with permission to write to their source code are people established as authorities. Anyone else is a schizo without write permissions.

>>11640989
anyone who isn't one of said authorities or isn't quoting from a textbook*

>>11641182
>>11640989
>>11640720
>>11638941
>>11638938
https://files.catbox.moe/xr14vf.webm

>>11638941
>They're all owned by the same small number of people. As always you're left with only two possibilities, lateral (that is, factions) and vertical.(a monolith). Regard;less of how it's structured at the top, they have a large amount of overlap in their interests and the underlying resources they make use of. This limits the scope of conflict and naturally causes them to converge to practice similar omissions. No given element has to even a component of the real relevant truth. Garbage in, garbage out. Unless you're looking from a bigger picture and not living in that media bubble circus of irrelevant puppets and identities, you can't extrapolate anything useful from it
This is a cop out. It assumes that everyone on the "top" are bad people wanting to all make everyone's lives worse and it assumes that they are all the same which is highly unlikely when there are like 100s of different new sources in the world right now. It's completely unreasonable to call them all bias because they have money/influence. I doubt you've even looked at 50 mainstream papers before
>Network effects.
But they are still different people with different lives, different goals, different families to go home to. Why do you assume they all act the same?
>Who indeed. This question is too broad and we've covered the collating and error control stuff already.
You don't have an answer. Just paragraphs of dodging the question because you have no trust on anything.
>So?
So you have no way of knowing everything and aren't that reliable to yourself

>>11641996
>Faith based component of a religion built around science.
It's not. I realized that the person as spent so much time dedicating themselves to a particular topic of their life leading them to probably go to me. If you want to learn about apples, you go to the person whose been farming them for years. Not the orange farmer.
> A PhD means either you went to an institution that is pumping them out for whatever reason, or you knew how to play ball with the politics of a select, relatively well conserved in group. A matter of power and resource allocation.
Why do you assume this? There are hundreds of schools and there's no way they can ALL be bias. Even in a campus there are multiple teachers in a particular subject who have different lives, motivations to wake up everyday and opinions. Plus the person with the PhD doesn't have to believe the school. Just listen to what they say and remember it.
>With an armchair mentality you have no ability to know if anything you're being told is true.
I know it's true because there is proof of people testing such things and that different people can vouch for the group and say that the experiment was done
>It depends.
On what? Why should I ever take the /x/phile's word for this if I have no idea about how much time they put into their thought?

>>11630595
Schizo is not for something you dislike. It's for barely coherent rambles. Here let me show you how a schizo post looks:


There has to be right now an immediate termination on left wing politics and right wing politics first of all I don't like the wing system because politics isn't a bird and there is fine more reasons as if to be concerned. Why do we have so much food on the warehouses literally objectively scientifically it's just a matter of developing computational quantum and the people will win WIN NOW NOW IT HAS TO BE DONE NOW NOT IN ONE GOUR NOT IN ONE MINUTE NOT IN 30 SECONDS RIGHT THE FUCK MEOW

Is of the master masterpoet(likewhatididthere(meessageswithinmessageathetoptiermasterthinker(likey(too bad ())somenotunfiniahera and he goes but I'm actually dialiker

>>11638270
>humor.
>repeat same thing a thousand times
forced memes aren't humor. did you come here when everyone started posting pictures of a green frog?

>>11643330
I came here after I busted a nut in your mom and she shit you out of her pussy

>>11643330
I came here after I busted a nut in your mom and she shit you out of her pussy. I thought got away from you yet here you followed me here. Fuck off little snatch goblin

>>11643361
rude...

>>11643361
that is so hot, ejaculations inside the vagina are very erotic, could youo tell us more?

>>11630595
because /x/ and /pol/ is the cancer that is killing /sci/

>>11644639
imagine being so fucking retarded you blame other boards for your board being a shit tier haven for retards

Clamped/unclamp schizo is one of the smartest people on this board. Its truly depressing that we must organize on a website filled to the brim with literal morons who are wilfully ignorant, unable to comprehend even a minutiae of abstraction required to see how society operates on a macro level. What are we supposed to do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z18f9VMBNto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaCEXNUq6bE

Sending a message to one and all. Please answer my call.

>>11630595
>Why is anything anyone disagrees with or dislikes being called "schizophrenic" now.
It's a tactic of ISIS' al-Nurse front which got everything they could have ever hoped for with Obamacare.

>>11630595
I sometimes feel like im in the early stages of schizophrenia, i'll never tell anyone or get diagnosed (unless this keeps continuing and makes life unlivable) because people will make fun of me, think im a monster, and completely discredit anything I have to say. I can already imagine people saying things like "pfft, don't listen to him, he's schitzo"

>>11632757
The guys on /x/ might actually be real glowies, since there really is no point in call people schizos on a paranormal forum.
Here on /sci/ people get called schizos because they post schizophrenic ramblings with no supporting evidence and chains of reasoning that bear only the faintest of resemblances to actual coherent thought and then spend hundreds of posts furiously trying to pass it off as gospel truth by accusing anyone who disagrees with their mental vomit of being part of a co-ordinated global conspiracy to shut down some special truth that only they know.

>>11632954
>More often than we want to admit, we don’t know with certainty the cause of death when we fill out death certificates
This is absolutely true, and thus fatalities linked to COVID 19 alone are not an accurate portrayal of the impact of the virus.
A very good measure to use instead of COVID fatalities is 'excess deaths' which is how many extra deaths have occurred compared to the same time last year.
So far in 2020, there have been about 120,000 more deaths than the average, which tells us that COVID 19 has probably already killed more Americans than the Great War

>>11637035
>>11637039
Its not a rat, it doesn't look like a rat, it doesn't move like a rat.
The fact that you can watch that video and see a rat is proof that you have some kind of mental disorder.

>>11638883
>Yes but you just assumed that null state exists when most things have some sort of evidence to them
You mean like observable reality?

>>11644646
sounds like something someone who's clamped, vaccinated, and 5Gd would say

>>11645539
absolutely clamped and vaxxed, in fact he was clamped even earlier than most I would wager. He got like two drops of placenta fluid and the rest was some Microsoft vaxx juice into his monkey brain

>>11645464
In all fairness there is legit a lot of schizos on /x/. They are drawn to occult/conspiracy circles and annoy the fuck out of people with actual conspiracy occult knowledge because they are always saying some stupid shit and causing drama when people are trying to discuss high IQ or serious conspiracy topics. They muddy the waters and really annoy the fuck out of people because they don't do proper research or ever know wtf they are talking about beyond basic bitch shit they absorbed through osmosis yet they always want to be int he middle of everything acting they know wtf they are talking about

>>11645651
Thats why you rather do late-term clamping, combined with third trimester 5G doses. The timing is key to prevent the 5G from cancelling out the globo-vaxx

When they say that them heckling me with an LRAD everywhere is like a schizo hearing voices, that's like when they implant a sexual device into a stab wound in my asshole and call it an STD.

ISIS loves to frame everything in terms of the healthcare industry because it is their power base. Every other developed country spends 10-12% GDP on healthcare but USA spends 20% and ISIS can't function without that spending glut.

>>11631413
>Post actual paranoid schizo delusions
You are far too loony and retarded to be posting.

>>11645670
I think you are to something here. This may be a proper business venture ti pursue. The clamped and vaxxed NPC arent even human anyway, they have no care at all about being clamped and vaxxed, in fact they a[[ear to love it. May as well brave new world medicate them and do tests on them for some good money.

>>11630595
Because schizo posting is a actual thing thats more common now.
Leftist have it the most with paranoid schizophrenia developed from thinking Trump derailed their hopes of World War 3 because they are too big of pussies to commit suicide they want humanity to suffer for them being born ugly, selfish and retarded .

Little do these myopic leftist know of course, Trump is just a smokescreen for conservatives not to realize their party has turned in to 1990s Democrats thats ran by zionist "Christians" and jews.

>>11645670

>>11645692
Funny you should say that..I just so happens to have a fresh stock of Anti-Clamp(patent pending) supplements in my webshop. All GMO- and glutenfree ofc. Havent seen anyone fall over from 5G poisoning while taking it either, so might actually work on both.
Follow my insta and get 15% of on your 23rd purchase

>>11645710
>Because schizo posting is a actual thing thats more common now.
>Proceeds to do schizo-posting
Brilliant

>>11643379
Glamped, vegginated, duhrgumdized....

>>11645771
The real question is, how did the jews manage to force clamping during the Cambrian explosion? Some kind of (((proto)))-(((them)))?

>>11645824
You can see it in the picture that anon posted, the proto jew is literally clamping that poor flatworm looking thing with its giant nose

>>11645865
Ah yes, i see it now.
The clue to the jew was right under my nose the whole time

>>11645427
don't worry we can tell

>>11645865
It begins...

>>11630595
1. Most of the people who browse 4chan are retarded ESL teenagers who latch onto buzzwords out of a lack of creativity/vocabulary.

2. The mentally ill/challenged make up a not inconsiderable portion of /pol/-tards who lack the wherewithal to understand why the paranoid nonsense they regurgitate is absurd. "Schizo" has become shorthand for that.

>>11630595
This is a talking point literal paid disney shills started on /tv/ and /co/. It's a basic propaganda technique whereby they try to convince readers that anyone who might question their company must have mental problems, so you wouldn't want to be seen as mentally ill, right?

>>11646006

>>11646045
If you point out Cointel Pro then you're a paranoid schizophrenic and you see conspiracy everywhere, and you think you're a special snowflake when you're really just a delusional peasant, and and and and....

Unfortunately in environments which are anonymous and either very slow, or with very little posters who will way in, the topic spirals out of control as they loop infinitely. They'll try to drive you crazy until you react, they act as a time sink and try to waste your time, they twist everything in a lawyer fashion. It is incredibly obnoxious and I've yet to figure out how to point it out and shut it down in the shortest possible order, regardless of context.

>>11646075
dont respond to them, if everyone just ignored every "schizo" ie completely off topic, strawman. logical fallacy and never responded to them you wouldn't have 75% of every thread being shit flinging between legit retards or shills and retards/shills and anons

>>11646103
They become extremely persistent and if this fails, they pretend to be multiple people (or perhaps allocate additional personnel). Depending on the platform, the goal is delegitimize an entire topic over time, and get the bitch mods react to the manufactured spectacle by locking or deleting the thread. If the mods are really panderers, they say a topic brings too much controversy and impossible to moderate, so they ban the topic outright.

Regardless, overall and at best, I think your strategy is all you can really do.

>>11645427
Anon you can take meds for it and it’s not like you’ve been put on a watch list like pedophiles

>>11647178
They will put me on a list, especially if I took medication
There's people out there that think that i'm worse than pedos, seeing me as a danger to society because of what goes on inside my head
I'm never going to tell anyone about this or ask for meds, maybe i'll write some huge explanation about all this shit to be found after i'm dead
oh and also i'm terrified that i'll just turn into some NPC fag drone thing if I took them, I am who I am, including the traumas and all this fucked up stuff in my head, taking meds to solve this would turn me into someone who's not me, in a way I see that as being worse than my current state

>>11630595
We call them schizo if they post a bunch of obviously retarded, rambling nonsense.

>>11630595
When people call others “schizo” they are referring in some part to their character. The character of a schizophrenic poster can be easily described
>has delusions
>rambling posts
>irrational arguments
>reacts with hostility to rational scientific arguments
>makes absolute dogshit threads
>will not concede and points and if they do they quickly come up with another equally irrational belief to fit into their delusions
Now there are places where the schizophrenic poster might be correct in belief that their posts are monitored like /pol/ where the high poster count and the amount of radicalized individuals soars above most places on the web. But unfortunately most schizos believe that even on a retarded no name board like /sci/ they are under attack by some sort of all knowing organization or that the world is controlled by evil. While that might be true they use conjecture and poor evidence to support these ideas to other anons

Take pic related for example. If he ran up to you on the street in the 1960s and started rambling about how the use of lead in paint causes health problems in people your obvious conclusion would be that he is mentally ill. It doesn’t not matter the verifiability his claims or if he is even right, but the presentation is that of someone who is not well. For more reading it how schizos act look up “gangstalking” on YouTube or plebbit

>>11632878
I can't tell if you're trolling or have the unfortunate lack of self-awareness to extrapolate the idiocy of your statement.

>>11647290
>social engineering that normalizes race mixing and destroys cultural and ethnic identity causing people to race mix
eat shit retard

>>11647290
I can't tell if you are a shill or really this stupid, impossible to tell really but in the end pointless I suppose.

>>11630595
>Not science or math
Take your meds schizo!

>>11647350
It’s a meta post so technically allowed even tho your still right about him taking his meds

>>11647380
Unclamp.

>>11647350
You too.

>>11647382
Fuck off

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nothing makes them seethe as much as being called schizo. just look at all the bullshit itt

>>11647538
Haha clamped. However, you need to unclamp.
Unclamp.

>>11647538
>just look at all the bullshit itt

>>11645732
where's the lie? I guess you were the schizo all long, aint that something?

>>11645500
>So far in 2020, there have been about 120,000 more deaths than the average,
Wrong, this is bs, post your source for this. I have seen the figures being well below this same time last year

>>11636927
Though this is true, smart people that understand complex ideas and information often times are not interested tutoring retards they know neither have the capacity or willingness to try and understand what they are talking about so they drop bread crumbs, links, keywords easily jewgled etc for smart anons to follow on their own while going into troll mode with the imbeciles for lolz.It isn't that they can't clarify, it is that if it wasn't clear already then wasting time trying to spoon feed them is likely a waste of your time.

For instance someone asking about something in your post they could have very easily jewgled for themselves and found the answer instantly yet make multiple posts asking you about some aspect of what you posted that should be obvious, easy to find or blatant troll/irony. If they are too stupid to understand blatant irony/trolling I often go into giga troll mode because they make me lol at their autism.

I did it several times in this thread with these morons in fact, about not trusting the China figures as you can see. The irony is that because "China lied" is now the official narrative they are fully on board with it whereas if this was not the official narrative they would be calling you a schizo for not believing the orig China figures. The pictures on the rectangle told them it was ok to believe in the "conspiracy" so now they are fully behind it.

But if you talk about your own government and politicians lying (which ironically enough the rectangle also reports on literally every second of every day), once again they call you a schizo. So the point is it is only "schizo" to them if you disagree with their glowing rectangle at any given moment. The fact that they were completely oblivious to my response to them being simply calling them schizo for saying something so obvious as "China lied" while they responded multiple times to it shows just how fucking stupid they are.

>>11636927
the tldr being, this is not a reliable method of determining whether the poster is actually schizo or not because it is easily simulated for entertainment or other purposes

>>11647631
Why are you talking to yourself?

>>11647822
>turns out to be a literal schizo who can't even make a coherent post
I have no idea what you are trying to ask/imply with your comment since I very clearly responded to a previous post, so obviously one who is not a schizo would assume I am speaking to the person who posted the original comment I responded to, but the irony is pottery especially after the post immediately preceding previous yours

>>11630595
People over react and say hurtful shit here. welcome 4chan. there is the door. i recommend you use it.

>>11647864
2008

>>11647747
"Simulated schizophrenia for entertainment purposes" may as well be real schizophrenia, as far as anybody else in the thread is concerned. There is no reason to distinguish these things, since they both ruin discussions that might otherwise have gone well.

>>11647720
one anon even said "but China lied is the mainstream narrative" ironically enough. They really are hilariously retarded

>>11647880
Not true, you completely missed the point of the post. It only looks like schizophrenia to people too stupid to see they are being trolled. It is the morons who ruin threads not the people who troll them for being morons calling everyone names because they are so stupid

>>11647848
I dunno anon, samefagging is a clear trait of schizo-posting. Kinda like how clamp-anon keeps his threads going. That, and reeing about jews

>>11630595
test

>>11647905
hold on, so you are implying I called someone schizo for posting this

"Because schizo posting is a actual thing thats more common now.
Leftist have it the most with paranoid schizophrenia developed from thinking Trump derailed their hopes of World War 3 because they are too big of pussies to commit suicide they want humanity to suffer for them being born ugly, selfish and retarded .

Little do these myopic leftist know of course, Trump is just a smokescreen for conservatives not to realize their party has turned in to 1990s Democrats thats ran by zionist "Christians" and jews."

then responded to my own post and called myself schizo for calling them schizo? Wow that really is something you are onto there anon. Truly fascinating. I guess you caught me, I was both schizos all along. Take your meds fucking retard, it was YOU who was the schizo all along!

>>11631003
Or Nazi.

>>11647243
this is your karma anon, you must have been a jew in your last life

>>11647917
These walls of text is also classic schizo, espescially when samefagging.
Bit you know this, as i am you

>>11649408
>us rn reading this

>>11649408
>>11649460
>>11647917
>>11647848
>>11647822
Ffs, stop samefagging so hard

>>11649460
Clamped
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>>11631413
But all anti-Trumpers think white people should be genocided, communism works, false rape accusations don't exist, hate speech isn't free speech, genetics isn't real, vaccines cause autism, healing crystals work, intelligence isn't hereditary, homeopathy cures you, etc.

>>11630595
It's an effective and underhanded way of silencing opposition. Anyone who tells you they are 100% sure of anything is a liar, so it exploits that tiny bit of uncertainty that is inherent in human nature and any decision making process to undermine an someone with an opposing viewpoint's self confidence.

Throwing around powerful labels like this all nonchalant is actually incredibly damaging to society as a whole because overuse reduces the power that these kinds of words have.

>>11630595
because the fucking spooks choose specific key words, phrases, and tactics to fuck with public discourse genius, if you havent already noticed

>>11630595
Because seeing /x/-tier discussions on /sci/ is fucking sad, there are way too many people here now that talk about topics they completely misunderstand or don't know anything about. They fuel their confirmation bias with stupid articles or videos and act like everyone else is retarded.
How is it acceptable to see topics discussing a link between 5G and coronavirus on /sci/ ?

Since mental illnesses and psychiatry are perfect example of those topics I find it quite amusing that calling everyone schizo is a thing now.

>>11630595
http://freetofindtruth.blogspot.com/2018/05/33-57-elon-musk-purchases-33000-shares.html
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http://freetofindtruth.blogspot.com/2018/09/12-26-37-47-71-96-47-year-old-elon-musk.html
http://freetofindtruth.blogspot.com/2018/09/57-teslas-bonds-are-imploding-september.html
http://freetofindtruth.blogspot.com/2018/09/13-27-47-54-74-78-91-sec-sues-elon-musk.html
http://freetofindtruth.blogspot.com/2018/09/47-57-93-929-elon-musk-is-out-as-tesla.html
http://freetofindtruth.blogspot.com/2018/10/26-33-35-44-47-101-102-107-111-spacex.html
http://freetofindtruth.blogspot.com/2018/12/33-57-64-119-123-158-159-elon-musks.html
http://freetofindtruth.blogspot.com/2019/03/44-spacex-launches-demo-flight-for.html
http://freetofindtruth.blogspot.com/2019/05/57-58-110-123-147-spacex-confirms-its.html
http://freetofindtruth.blogspot.com/2019/06/42-49-51-57-58-123-147-210-223-spacex.html

>>11630595
SRS, somethingawful, resetera, rantic, stormfront, leftypol, discord trannies, JIDF, b'nai b'rith, operation earnest voice
pick whichever sounds the most plausible to you - all are a proven reality nonetheless

I like to think of 4chan as the Americas before they got colonized. It's an empty undefended playground that is about to get filled up by the interests of a few major powers and all of them will use it as a buffer to solve their issues. The Americans will push their version of jingoism, then the Chinese will hit back by hiring rivaling PR firms, then some discord server will feel the zeal to shill their snowflake ideology here, then stormfront will get triggered that they're losing ground and shit up /pol/ yet again, all the while t_d and leftypol are spraying diarrhea at each other. The end product of this is a sea of shills which is what we have right now. The only way to avoid this is to post normal on-topic threads that do not trigger the interests of any of these groups, which I've found to be quite informative coming from a place like this. Avoid the agitprop and especially avoid the threads that have an obvious agenda attached to them, outside of them 4chan isn't bad at all.