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11563075 No.11563075 [Reply] [Original]

Are cigarettes really as bad as the "scientists" all say they are?

>> No.11563098

Yes

>> No.11563168

Sounds like huffing rubbing alcohol to kill the virus in my lungs would be safer.

>> No.11563170

Kojima predicted this.

>> No.11563180

>>11563075
Yeah, they drain your vitamin C and contain over 40 different carcinogens such as phenol, nitrosamine, benzapyren etc.

>> No.11563188

>>11563075
Cigarettes are bad because of the other shit they put in it. Tobacco itself is as harmless as weed.

>> No.11563190

>>11563180
https://www.jci.org/articles/view/32709

Smokers have a hyperactive immune response, so when exposed to the flu their immune system causes excessive damage to the lungs. It's clear smokers have a reaction to viruses that is different from non-smokers. Since corona is a novel virus, there's much we don't now about it. I REALLY don't want anyone to assume smoking is good for you or has an effect on corona, but at this point I think it's too early to dismiss the idea also.

>> No.11563195

>>11563188
/thread

>> No.11563197

>>11563188
I always had a hunch it wasn't necessarily the tobacco itself but the fucked up additives, but surely inhaling smoke of any kind is still bad for you.

>> No.11563208

>>11563075
Is breathing combustion products really as bad as the "firefighters" all say it is?

>> No.11563209

>>11563190
feels nice to be a chad smoker who is immune to all illnesses

>> No.11563223

>>11563197
Yes. Inhaling smoke from any plant matter means you're inhaling tar which is a carcinogen.
Weedheads think cannabis is somehow a special exception to this but it isn't, unless it's edibles.

>> No.11563279

>>11563075
Iirc studies showed a much larger correlation between obesity and, to a smaller degree, age in respect to hospitaliation.
Smoking still aint good for you in general

>> No.11563281

>>11563209
Not immune to being a faggot, clearly

>> No.11563282

>>11563075
Isn't that because people already practice social distancing with smokers? I'm sure you would find similar results with people who don't bathe

>> No.11563285

Yes, they are.

>> No.11563342

>>11563075
>what is Bayesian statistics

>> No.11563351

>>11563188
they don't put extra stuff in it. the harmful stuff is produced by burning the tobacco

>> No.11563602

>>11563075
Hey everyone. I vape and used it to quit smoking. When smoking I couldn’t sprint without feeling pain. Now I do strenuous exercise on a regular basis. No, I don’t vape in public outside my car. Yes, I might still be getting lung cancer. But I’m tall so my life expectancy is short anyway. Also I’m retarded from weed addiction that I got over in the past year.

>> No.11563619

>>11563351
You might want to google around a bit...

>> No.11563627

>>11563351
They certainly add things to it. Things that make it easier to smoke, things that make it burn at just the right rate, things that'll make you crave it even more. If you want a comparison, try smoking whatever it is you'd normally smoke, then try smoking an American Spirit. AFAIK, American Spirits are just pure tobacco with no additives, and it's noticeable. The cigs burn much slower, they don't always drag as smoothly, and personally I don't find the smoke as satisfying. Perhaps that's only because I'm too used to all the additives found in other cigs. Sorta wish I started out smoking pure tobacco so I'd never know any better.

>> No.11563631

>>11563188
>Weed
>Harmless
Lmao

>> No.11563714
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>> No.11563724

if you're already dead then the virus can't kill you

suicide is good for you, give it a try

>> No.11565203

>>11563631
weed is good for you unironically

>> No.11565253

>>11563714
kekd

>> No.11565255

>>11565203
Based Avicenna anon and canon-of-medicine pilled

Lads, remember it's a medicine so treat it with respect

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>>11563714

>> No.11565361

Yeah smokers always feel like they're out of breath so they don't notice their symptoms and so only the smokers with the most severe cases get tested at all.

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>>11563075
>inverse conditional probability fallacy
>what is base rate

>> No.11565511

>>11563075
Sampling bias? Are most smokers simply dead already?

>> No.11565920

>>11563075
>get reminded of cigarettes
>want to smoke
AAAAAAAAAAAH
I'm wasn't even ever a "proper" smoker, occasional only. It just feels good.

>> No.11565929

>>11563188
Have you even seen a tobacco farmer? Tobacco pretty much rots people alive

>> No.11565948

>>11563075
Smoking? it's horrible for your lungs.
It's the nicotine that protects you by lowering inflammation, it's similar to caffeine but a bit more powerful.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4002379/
>Nicotine has been shown to alter immune responses by decreasing inflammation, decreasing the antibody-forming cell response of splenocytes, decreasing proliferation of peripheral blood mononuclear cells, regulating lymphocytes, macrophages, DC, and affecting the secretion of cytokines of lymphocytes.

>> No.11566041

>>11563281
I smoke marlboro, not cock

>> No.11566568

>>11563075
What about vaping?

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>>11565929
this thread is what happens when s o y f a g s meet information which contradicts the establishment indoctrination they received from the government during childhood

>> No.11566741

>>11563188
>Tobacco itself is as harmless as weed.
so it kills your sperm count

>> No.11567066

>>11563075
no they are faggot who can't afford a cigar

>> No.11567100

>>11563188
The harmful part of weed and tobacco is mostly from smoking it. Breathing in smoke is what fucks you up.

>> No.11567104

>>11566728
Based blue collar right wing conspiracist

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>>11563188
>Cigarettes are bad because of the other shit they put in it. Tobacco itself is as harmless as weed.
This but weed is bad tho

>> No.11567545

>>11563075
From the article linked by this phenylketonuric:
>These results are consistent with findings from China and Italy, which suggest that patients with underlying health conditions and risk factors, including, but not limited to, diabetes mellitus, hypertension, COPD, coronary artery disease, cerebrovascular disease, chronic renal disease, and smoking, might be at higher risk for severe disease or death from COVID-19

>> No.11567565

>>11563075
You catch it by filter with unwashed hands when you hand it to somebody even you...

There is a mutagen right on the filter.

Probably people that had groupensex in mud and did anything by hands have same kind of imunity as smokers.

>> No.11567578

>>11563188
Wrong, tobacco soaks up heavy metals from the environment and produces basically the same chemicals as cigarettes when smoked. Weed is also bad for your lungs when smoked, both introduce tar and other carcinogens into your body. Combustion and inhalation is not a safe method of consumption.

>> No.11567599

>>11565920
I’m about four months cold turkey and I have very few cravings anymore, only when I’m really stressed out. Good luck anon