/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11487770

lol the retard doing math shirtless? why the FUCK are you stalking him? hes a child lmfao

>>11487777
I sometimes read his blog, but it looks like he's probably dead now. I thought I'd let you know 'cause he's /sci/ culture

>>11487782
rip putnam weeb poster

montano was always a schizo. i am surprised that he isn't already completely forgotten here. i predict that he ends up either as a homeless political activist science dilettante like jon t. or he ends up dead of suicide on the railway like terry d.

there is a 5000 dollar bounty out for him

>>11487860
>Car found in beach parking lot Lake Michigan Waukegan IL

From his post: “Once I begin helping this world, traveling to other worlds, and finally reuniting with my long lost friends I will be happy.”

Maybe he was trying to “travel to other worlds”?

>https://patch.com/illinois/libertyville/man-22-depression-reported-missing-waukegan
>The car door was found open with the keys in the ignition and Montano's cell phone was still inside. A police canine reportedly picked up Montano's scent along the lake.

rip

>>11487782
What is the link to his vlog?

>>11488254
https://vitrifyher.com/

>>11487770
hes looking for his shirt

So what are his confirmed youtube channels
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzuwHaHrA7_ClPjfeiVj1yQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeLURmm1ICIg46GkQpWOhIw/
These are the ones I could find

>>11487770
>Nobody knows where he is.
West of the Dakotos; south of Canado.

>>11488441
I don't understand. Please elaborate.

>>11487770

>About Me
>Reproduction is evil. We should live in paradise.
>But you don’t deserve paradise.
>I deserve everything.
>Who are you?
>I am God. Fallen and in pain but I am God.

Actually retarded for calling himself a God. Most likely high on drugs or some shit.

>>11488474
You write that EXACT statement in every thread.
Since you have chronic potato syndrome I will spell this one out for you: Montana

>>11488484
>plebbitor calling others retarded

>>11488532
not a plebbitor.

>>11487885
>Once I begin helping this world
How can he begin helping this world if he's dead?

>>11487770

his face kind of reminds me of a hamster lol

>>11487782
Someone should make archives of his blog posts since his website will probably eventually be taken down.

>>11488422
You forgot this one:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtMZ_0fwv-IiRlctf_pl90A

Wtf I hope he’s ok. Schizos have significantly shorter lifespans for a reason tho.

His one anime mmv is fucking good

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zMfrzvrh4ec

LET US ALL TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE TO REMEMBER THIS TORTURED SOUL

>>11487860
>>11487863
I'd say he's dead. Bet it's like that Eliza Lam case or the other crazy woman who was seen having spasms, talking to air and running off. He looks like someone with depression.
My guess is that medication against depression some can cause unfathomable thirst. So bad, that you want to engulf your whole body in water. That's why Lam was found in the water tank. I guess he drowned too.

>>11488679
I swear I didn't read past those posts and just typed my reply before seeing these
>>11487900
>>11487885

Why can you see depression in people's faces?

>>11487860
>Height: 5'6"

>>11487860
>Missing: Mario Montano
>Contact: Maria Montano

Imagine going through the trouble of IVF to get >le best possible embryo
only to end up with an athletic kid with a talent for math...who just ends up developing severe schizophrenia at the most typical age and ends up obsessed with some imaginary anime girl before committing suicide

>>11487770
Did he kill himself because he couldn't build muscle? I saw his youtube lifts and they weren't very high for 5 years lifting lmao, like 135 lbs bench press for a few reps

>>11489298
Mario seems like he's from the future. He's a Mexican mutt who was genetically engineered.

>>11489299
He killed himself because he hated his life in general.

>Most of those dreams are unrealistic so I plan on going to Mexico to buy some Pentobarbital which is used for euthanizing animals and can be bought off the counter. Suicide is currently my best option since it is the best transformative agent for the contents of consciousness that I can think of. I still feel that rationally considered, the boredom, malaise, anxiety, shame, pain, absurdity, loathing etc. is not worth the scant rewards in my human life. There is a vast ocean of radically different mind configurations of which my locus forms but a meaningless fraction of a dust speck. The idea that out of all possible modes of being across eternal probability space, I would be this human is frankly repugnant.

>>11489299
that's normal muscle gain if you're not on roids

>>11489584
funny how his human body was supposed to be peak performance as it was engineered for greatness but he concluded that it is "repugnant". must be some massive complex related to knowing that you are like the only genetically engineered human and then ending up being mediocre. I wonder if he would still have mental issues if he didn't know.

>>11487782
Where's his blog? I can't find anything on the internet about this guy. Too many mario montanos all over the world.

>>11489234
https://beyondhighbrow.com/2018/05/31/the-intelligence-of-hispanics/

> To give you context, my mother has been living in the US for over 25 years, and still does not understand a drop of English. They have a culture which consists of strong work-ethic (never missing a day of work and so on) followed by self-induced brain death post 9-to-5. They just watch mindless television and do not learn.

How are you even supposed to contact her if she doesn't know English?

>>11489599
>average IQ is 89
what? isn't average IQ 100 by definition of IQ?

>>11489592
https://vitrifyher.com/

>>11489586
Nah, most people after 5 years would probably bench 3 plates at the very least, maybe 4 if good genetics. I'm not sure he could bench 2pl8

>>11489604
>hurr durr the average is 100 by definition, therefore all populations must have the same average intelligence

>>11489617
can you read, retard?
>the IQ of the average human is 89
this is what the blog says. that for all humans, the average is 89.

>>11489625
The average IQ is 80 by white standards. If the average white IQ is 100, the average human's IQis 89.

>>11489625
This isn't surprising. IQ is designed to be 100 for europeans so africans and indians tip the balance a bit down to 90 because they are numerous and markedly retarded

>>11489201
>height above 6'2 not optimal
Cope.

>>11487770
i dont give a fuck i hope i see him on fucking liveleaks soon.

>>11489610
>3 plate bench ( 140 kg ) ORM
>natty or not really good genetics

Hahahahahaha

no

>>11489617
are you brain-dead? if you see "the average iq of east timor is 82, and the average iq of america is 101" that's literally only being said based on the entire world as a sample population with an average of 100. if you take east timor as a sample population, the average will then be 100 not 82

>I do not see you, and I do not feel you. Forgive me.
another one gone. this is why romanticizing schizophrenia is reprehensible. THIS is what it's really like. rest in peace

>>11489630
And at the same time Asians and jews exist. Couple this with the fact that there are more people with abnormally high IQ (160>) than low (<60) and the average is thus pushed into 100.
Plus the average white IQ, when using the entire world as a sample, is actually around 101-103.

>>11489201
>5'11
>"Perfect height"

Manlets coping

>>11488270
every single entry on that blog reads like one of the schizo posters on here wtf

>>11489201
Using that barbarian measuring system on /sci/ should not be tolerated.

>>11490100
>every single entry on that blog reads like one of the schizo posters on here wtf
thats because hes a literal schizo anon. but the difference between him and the fake schizoposters here is that when you message him, his replies make sense. he can communicate with others and isnt just larping

>https://vitrifyher.com/2019/11/17/features-of-my-so-called-psychosis/
>https://vitrifyher.com/2019/02/22/im-sorry-for-not-making-sense-anymore/
fascinating and a bit heartwrenching

How is this person related to /sci/?

>>11490196
newfag detected

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihkjrPwp5QM

cant believe hes dead boys. how long until they find the body?

>>11490120
>music speaks to you, there is a message that transcends the lyrics at face value
>something like telepathic communication with Eliezer Yudkowsky and Robin Hanson’s text
>videos and text are created for you specifically, they are tailored to speak to you

Reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-SJKJnZ9cg

he fucked up big time being a schizo and taking psychedelics. granted maybe he was a lost cause anyway but those drugs won't help

>>11490562
The reason psychedelics fucked him up is because he was also taking lithium. Psychedelics and lithium are a dangerous combination that can cause seizures and/or psychosis.

>>11490624
>he was also taking lithium
fucking WHY

>>11490538
that video is so underrated in just how sad it really is. all of the comments are like
>i know how u feel man, i like am confused about reality too bro. yeah bro reality is so weird i dont understand it either
like they're totally missing the point. terry isn't high as fuck pondering reality here, he is living in a perpetual state of deep alienating confusion totally incongruent with everybody and everything around him, everything he has ever learned and all the people that he socializes with. it's so fucked up that somebody has to go through that. none of those dumbfucks commenting have the slightest idea what he's even talking about here

This R*ddit post he made describes what could have happened.

>>11491020
Wow yep this is it

jesus christ i just watched a bunch of videos of this kid and he is legit autistic
this is pure 100% autism

this is just some sad shit

He was a smart kid. This should serve as a cautionary tale of how mental illness works, stay balanced.

>>11491136
now i feel bad for trolling him when he used to post here :-(

>>11491143
I think everybody did and still does. It's generally hard to not ostracize the mentally ill, since not often it leads to suicide and we don't really know how to effectively help them, or don't even have the incetive to do so. Don't be sad. It's how nature works.

>>11490899
>fucking WHY
Because he was bipolar and it was part of his treatment

>>11491020
>Completely incapacitated by alcohol
So did he just jump into the lake sober this time?

>>11491112
You should read this:
https://vitrifyher.com/2018/09/27/the-schizoid-aspie-who-discovered-the-secrets-of-the-multiverse-with-the-internet/

>>11490100
This is why low IQ shouldn’t do psychedelics, I’ve tripped multiple times and never had schizo revelations. Truly a sign of low IQ and self awareness.

>>11491282
imagine taking psychedelics and still being this far up your own ass

>>11491283
Indeed a constant problem; it however says nothing about my intelligence, your are absolutely right but that doesn’t make me wrong.

>>11491143
>>11491146
Here's a post that seems like it was made by him.

Did elon musk really comment on his blog lmao
https://vitrifyher.com/2020/03/02/tongues-of-fire/#comments

>>11491306
this is the funniest post ive read this year

>>11491631
No, those were people who just picked that name when they commented on his site. I looked up the IP address and the ISP was Oregon State University. I could use the historic flight information of Elon Musk's private jet to prove he wasn't there at the time, but it should be obvious it wasn't him and he is not making comments on obscure blogs of schizophrenic shirtless math enthusiasts.
>>11491282
He had issues with his mental health long before he took psychedelics and only took DMT fairly recently.
>>11491143
You probably should feel bad. I was looking in the archive and most of the interactions that /sci/ had with him were mean spirited and likely just fueled his belief that other people are NPCs. He was largely ignored on the other websites he made comments on so he didn't have a good way of vetting his beliefs. His suicide also seems to be a test of quantum immortality and he mentioned previously having survived an attempt to kill himself at a lake.

>>11492172
>and only took DMT fairly recently
I don't think he ever took DMT at all. His last post on Plebbit referenced "having to see for himself" what DMT is like.

>>11492172
>I was looking in the archive and most of the interactions that /sci/ had with him were mean spirited and likely just fueled his belief that other people are NPCs.
Post some links/screenshots of some of the interactions /sci/ had with him.

>>11492172
>I was looking in the archive and most of the interactions that /sci/ had with him were mean spirited and likely just fueled his belief that other people are NPCs.
it's very easy to say this in retrospect but considering the sheer number of people that simply romanticize schizophrenia here and gpt-2 schizopost namefag and constantly push misinformation, combine with the fact that nobody is nice to anybody in the first place here, it's really just par for the course.

not to mention many of his videos come off as him being a pompous self-absorbed asshole, just like that famous video of the einstein kid explaining the 4th dimension. now that he's dead taking the moral highground is pretty pointless

>>11492202
You're right, my mistake. This post he made two days before he went missing implies he never had access to DMT, LSD or their analogues
https://vitrifyher.com/2020/03/01/tracing-ephemera/
>>11492206
None of it is that interesting and I didn't find a lot of serious attempts to engage with him and his world view. A lot of the post referencing his name were telling him to fuck off and/or kill himself.
>>11492258
I'm discouraging your narcissistic attempt to absolve yourself of guilt surrounding your interactions with him when you just found out he died. I'm not going to encourage your self pity. If you told someone with schizophrenia to kill themselves, and they did it, you should feel bad. You encouraged this situation by trolling him and you're now trying to use the way you perceived his personality as justification for it. It's pathetic.

>>11492301
It's weird how he seems like he still planned to do DMT and other psychedelics right up to the day he died. There's barely anything that suggests he planned to die that day. It seems like he just impulsively decided to kill himself.

>>11492305
Not really that weird when you see his long history of posting about how depressed, miserable and suicidal he was when combined with a thought disorder. He thought it was more likely Elon Musk was posting on his wordpress than someone had just filled in a fake name...

>>11492305
I believe that his psychosis was getting worse and he truly thought he was in a simulation with quantum immortality. In the past he thought this was a torturous existence but his last post seems to mark a change from his normal more reasoned argument to 'it is Kingdom Hearts, dude', perhaps an optimism that pushed him over the edge.

If Many Worlds is correct, maybe there's a world where he once again failed at his suicide attempt, but it isn't this one. Wherever he is, I hope he finally found peace.

>>11491309
escape the simulation

>>11492328
We are in a simulation. Nothing is real.

>>11492340
you are a simulation living in reality

>>11492340
"real" makes no sense anyway, it's a concept created within the very thing which we're calling "real". It's just an idea, a way to look at it, but holds no actual truth.

>>11492312
I'm not surprised that he killed himself eventually. What surprises me is that he killed himself when he did. I expected him to do DMT and other psychedelics first before killing himself. Instead, he completely abandoned his plans to do DMT.

>>11492354
Objective facts are subjective.

>>11492455
>so much beauty in that rape

well okay Bran...

Literally who

>>11487770
hope that faggot die

>>11492583
Newfag

>Brainless clowns here either worship e-celebs doing pop-sci or actual unironic literal schizos that don't take their meds.

It gets tiring.

>>11492702
Except that isn't anything close to the reality of what happened. He didn't receive any positive attention here and died in obscurity. You can go on his Youtube channel and watch videos literally no one else has seen before. On top of this, he was told to kill himself repeatedly and people here would go to his blog and try to provoke his delusions even more by pretending to be famous people sending him messages.

Go find another grave to piss on, faggot. I'm sure there are plenty of other stupid contrarian arguments you can get into outside this thread.

>>11492301
>I'm discouraging your narcissistic attempt to absolve yourself of guilt surrounding your interactions with him when you just found out he died.
What are you even talking about? I've never had any interaction with him here, that I know of (it's an anonymous imageboard), nor did I imply that I did. I've never really had any direct negative (negative on my end, obviously) interaction with him.

>I'm not going to encourage your self pity.
What's your point here? I don't have any, and I never asked you to.

>If you told someone with schizophrenia to kill themselves, and they did it, you should feel bad.
When did I say I did? The point is that everybody is told to kill themselves here, schizophrenic or not, and it's completely brain-dead to have expected otherwise.

>You encouraged this situation by trolling him and you're now trying to use the way you perceived his personality as justification for it. It's pathetic.
I never trolled him once, in fact I watched all of his videos and even thought one of them wasn't total shit. You can see my comment on his anime amv. Taking the moral highground like this only after he died is extremely pathetic, so it's bizarre you're using that word for me. His personality was self-absorbed, and he admitted it. Even more extreme, in his view, nobody else even existed. There is absolutely no debate there. While the other two adjectives are subjective, I would claim they're basically pleonasm naturally extending from his worldview.

You aren't a very bright human being, and there is no repair for you I'm afraid.

>>11492455
>tfw you realize he was berserkfag

>>11492751

You're the people egging him on because your life is so devoid of meaning that you need to see people like him becoming mad to have your memes and fun.

>>11492778
You literally said that you trolled him, that is what I responded to. You can pretend that you're just some random person who commented in place of the other person but I can tell by your typing style and by how defensive you are either the same person or a complete fucking retard that is incapable of following a simple conversation and gets upset about comments that weren't directed to them.
>The point is that everybody is told to kill themselves here
There's a big difference between telling someone to kill themselves in a heated argument and deliberately commenting on each post they telling them to kill themselves. This is what happened, look in the archive. Sue me if I don't think bullying an autistic schizophrenic person is just part of board culture. I understand your guilty about it, and you should be. You can remain upset at this fact or just admit you're a wretched little faggot, lying in hopes of washing your hands of it and crying argument from morality when you don't have basic decency. It's so gutless there's little wonder why some schizos stop believing that other people are real.

>>11492827
Read that post again and figure out where I implied that I was egging him on. I never had any interaction with him and I'm always cautious when talking to schizos because I know how fragile their worldview is and how easily it's disrupted.

>>11492865
>You literally said that you trolled him, that is what I responded to.
>You literally said
>that you trolled him
Are you even responding to the right person?

>You can pretend that you're just some random [...]
Now I got my answer. I'm not that guy. I came to this thread and read >>11492172 and took trouble with what you said there. I haven't used an emoji in the past 10 years of my life so I do not know what you mean by "typing style". "Pathetic" isn't even scratching the surface of your now obvious projection.

>There's a big difference between telling someone to kill themselves in a heated argument and deliberately commenting on each post they telling them to kill themselves.
Again, it's an anonymous imageboard. That's the beauty of it, I imagine even for Montano himself. Also did he ever actually namefag? I'm curious. This place wouldn't be the same, or really worth visiting at all, if there was some genuine moral burden on everybody's shoulders to be kind.

>Sue me if I don't think bullying an autistic schizophrenic person is just part of board culture.
I mean it is part of 4chan culture at this point. 4chan *arguably* killed pic related, because people trolled him into believing he was in a relationship with a girl that he was vaguely on his way to "visit" when he died if I recall. They also technically got him kicked out of his house, among many other things.

Yes, it's disgusting, yes my outrage over it was similar to yours when he died, especially because it's so stupidly ironic that they would sympathize with him like nothing happened after they killed him. I don't really see the same thing here tho.

>You can remain upset at this fact or just admit you're a wretched little faggot, lying [...]
Again, this sounds like major projection. Also ignoring everything I've said and calling me a wretched little faggot is pretty funny given your side of the argument. You're right about the last thing tho

>>11492947
>IT WASNT ME XD im someone else who is butthurt and writing walls of text in defense of that person!
Literally take your medication and stop Reddit spacing.
>"Pathetic" isn't even scratching the surface of your now obvious projection
It's cute you keep reusing my insults and then crying projection. Even your comments about projection are projection.
>genuine moral burden on everybody's shoulders to be kind
At no point did I imply that. I implied that you shouldn't deliberately bully autistic schizos by telling them to kill themselves every time they post a link to one of their videos. For someone who is 'totally not the person who did that', you sure seem quick to defend it.
>4chan *arguably* killed pic related
4chan isn't a single person, retard. The only person with some fault for that situation was the person who created the fictitious girl and trolled him. Plenty of people here respected Terry and would never wish him harm.
>I don't really see the same thing here tho
You don't have to. You simply have to stop seeking attention and find another place to be a contrarian. No one cares about your narcissism fueled hot takes.
>You're right about the last thing tho
Cringe, you literal cock sucker.

>>11492947
>>>/lgbt/

>>11492988
>Literally take your medication and stop Reddit spacing.
You're accusing me of being someone I'm not, and then telling ME to take my medication?

>It's cute you keep reusing my insults and then crying projection.
That's what projection IS, retard. When I say you're projecting by calling me pathetic, I am necessarily "reusing your insult".

>At no point did I imply that
Of course you did. You could be Montano for all I know; taking the moral highground like this puts a burden on everybody here.

>For someone who is 'totally not the person who did that', you sure seem quick to defend it.
I know I'm not him, so I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here. You're just coming across as mentally unstable now.

>4chan isn't a single person, retard.
I didn't even think I was arguing with you on this point, in fact I thought we were in agreement. It isn't a single person, sure, obviously, but anonymity (again) means I could be talking to Montano right now.
>fictitious girl
She was real
>would never wish him harm
I mean these are arguably the people that did him harm, by buying him a drumset, which notoriously got him kicked out of his parents house. Wishing him harm is mutually exclusive to actually doing him harm.

>seeking attention, contrarian, narcissist, hot takes, cringe, cock sucker
None of these are arguments and every insult is only proving me right, lmfao. Thanks though

>>11493005
Woah, I didn't know that board even existed! Thanks, anon!

>>11493054
Yes, I'm accusing you of being someone who you claim that you're not. Most rational people would have gone about their day instead of writing walls of text defending the party who they were confused for.
>That's what projection IS, retard I am necessarily "reusing your insult"
It's not necessary to repeat every insult I've said back to me, you don't need to do that in order to claim projection as I could know what you're referring to without being parroted. The reason you didn't do that is because you're actually projecting, you unoriginal fuck.
>taking the moral highground like this
This is such an idiotic statement. I'm not taking a moral high ground as a fallacy argument, it's simply my belief that this shouldn't have happened to him. It's like getting upset at someone for stating that murder is wrong and claiming they are taking the moral high ground.
>I could be talking to Montano
What's your point? Montano is most likely a corpse floating around in Lake Michigan.
>I mean these are arguably the people that did him harm
A person buying him a drum set also isn't 4chan, retard. Stop attributing the actions of individuals to that of a group.
>None of these are arguments
You don't have an argument. You're upset at some sense of morality you think I have and there's no coherent argument against it beyond your fallacy arguments and terribly creative insults. Not one single person here cares what you think. You're some literal who degenerate faggot wagging his finger around and mocking the death of someone who posted here for no reason other than to attract attention.

>>11491306
>you're*
Yep, your really intelligent

>>11493129
>>11493054
>>11492988
>>11492947
Unironically get a fucking life, holy fuck you goddamn losers

>>11488484
he said he was on dmt. Literally written in his blog

>>11492455
Wow this guy sounds like he’s a fucking nutbag school shooter

>>11493153
So you're offended because you saw an argument two people had on 4chan? Sorry it triggered your autism but perhaps this place isn't for you and you can get back to stacking blocks from smallest to largest and eating crayons.

>>11493167
To be fair, that was the worse his writing that I found. He was much more persuasive in his videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w13yLq16QiM

This is unironically what happens when you choose Asuka over Rei.

>>11493129
>rational people would have gone about their day instead of writing walls of text defending the party [...]
I'm not defending anybody, I didn't even know you thought I was someone else until you started conspiracyposting about it; rather I'm disagreeing with you.

>It's not necessary to repeat every insult I've said back to me
Where did I call you an attention seeking, contrarian, cringe, cock sucking narcissist with hot takes? Do you even know who you are?

>it's simply my belief that this shouldn't have happened to him
>it's like getting upset at someone for stating that murder is bad
>What's your point?
I don't think telling someone to kill themselves (or really half the insults you said to me in the last post) in any context is the right thing to do BUT it would be retarded for me to expect otherwise. And THAT'S my point.

>A person
It was crowdfunded here, anon. I'm doing exactly what you did in this post >>11492172. Of course I don't believe 4chan is a sentient individual, and that every single human being here is complicit in his death. Rather, as you said, "most interactions that 4chan had with him were mean spirited and likely fueld his beliefs."

>You don't have an argument.
Of course I do, I've repeated it in every post I've made. You're literally arguing against my argument in that very post you just made, retard.

>fallacy arguments, creative insults, nobody cares what you think, degenerate faggot, mocking death, attention seeking
Are you literally crying right now? You end every post with a string of totally vapid insults that can only come from a place of massive projection.

In summary, I would suggest you see a therapist. None of this is normal behavior, even for 4chan. I'm putting this thread on my block list because you already lost the argument and are now inventing new ones like a mentally ill loser. I won't see your response but I'd suggest grabbing a tissue for your tears so that you can see mine this time.

See ya dumbfuck

>>11492592
the only faggot here is you. It's people like yourself that continuously destroy the hope that people like mario had for humanity. Maybe if it weren't for how society had treated him, which is an underlying reason for most people with mental issues, or if society didn't act stupidly as it does, then he wouldn't have to be in the silly cycle he's in. Maybe you should die but then I'm only feeding the dog behaviour that I swore to never surrender.

>>11493212
Of course, you didn't actually block this thread. You're sitting there right now seething and pretending I'm upset for simply responding to your obnoxious incoherent drivel.
>expect otherwise. And THAT'S my point.
Of course that wasn't your point or else you would have said just that. We expect this to happen on 4chan, it was never in dispute. The act itself was in dispute and you claimed I was taking the moral high ground like that is an argument against it when it isn't. It doesn't mean anything.
>I'm doing exactly what you did in this post
Except I didn't do that at all since that post doesn't exclude the idea of a single person making most of the posts which appears to be the case. At no point did I imply 4chan was guilty for them, only the specific parties in question.
>Of course I do, I've repeated it in every post I've made
That isn't an argument. An argument is a clear view for consideration of something being right or wrong. You don't have a consistent view, you just randomly make things up and then ignore what you've said in the past. It's not more an argument than if you randomly generated your text.

Keep projecting your projection and playing 'I know you are but what am I', but you're an actual faggot and not one person would defend you if you killed yourself. It's people like you who make the world so terrible that it drives people to insanity, self obsessed scumbags who don't care about fact or truth, they simply want attention and will do anything to get it. In fact, you're subhuman.

It is the severe internet in here.

>>11489604
>using a board that is purportedly "Science" themed
>not understanding basic high school level statistics

You realize there can be different subgroup within a single population or sample space, right anon? That's the whole point of conditional probability and Bayes Rule. This is stuff we have literally understood for nearly 500 years, and that most of us learn in 9th grade math.

>>11493174
Offended? No, I'm embarrassed that I share the same platform as actual wastes of genetic material such as yourself.

>>11493365
You seem terribly upset and offended, but let me take your words at face value. Why are you embarrassed because of an argument on a site known for stupid arguments? What specifically triggered you enough to shit yourself and post cringy insults?

>>11493347
lmao another retard who didn't read anything and just started assuming everyone besides him is the retard

can we all just be friends and admit that Montano was a douche and good riddance?

>>11493521
>can we all just be friends and admit that Montano was a douche and good riddance?
No, we can't. Why do you believe he was a douche? Montano seemed harmless to me and he wasn't very aggressive unlike the other schizos here.

>>11493264
kek

>>11493521
ALL LIFE IS SACRED. The only people who "deserve" death are those who do not appreciate life

>>11493568
sure he was a relatively less vocal schizo. not nearly as bad as berzerkfag. but he had no fun element playing in his game so he doesn’t live up to Jon, and compared to Jon and Gary his arguments were always even more fringe than your average schizo. so his harmlessness points get cancelled by his negative points from how bizarre his arguments were. good riddance.

>>11493737
nah, some people are shit. like schizos who come here acting all smart and posting pseud shit

>>11493753
His story doesn't make you forgive the negative influence you believe he had on this board? I just don't understand why so many people here seem to harbor resentment for a dead person when he was testing his own version of quantum suicide and doing a bunch of other wacky interesting shit. His life was a tragedy, ignored by the world, ignored by his fellow autists. We watched his decent into hell and the incredible psychosis of someone that could seem pretty lucid and reasonable at times.

It was a master class in mental illness and ends on a cliff hanger, not only if he is alive in our world, but if he is alive in others. Our own little mystery that may never be mentioned again outside of this thread.

>>11493825
>ignored by his fellow autists
What were we even supposed to do about it?

>>11493968
I expected at least a few of us to calmly reason with him and help direct his thought process to something more constructive or based in reality but I haven't found any evidence that ever happened. I know that people here also talked about him being suicidal long before he tried it and I didn't see any attempt to talk him out of it either.

I want to make it clear that I'm not blaming anyone here for his death and his actions were his alone, but from an outsiders perspective, it appears that /sci/ basically spat in his face and led to him being even more isolated.

>>11493825
>it was a master class in mental illness
I agree strongly with this sentiment. Montano was interesting.

>>11487770
he cute

>>11493161
No he didn't. He said that he wanted to get DMT. He never said that he ever actually got to do DMT.

wtf he was subscribed to me

>>11494216
faggy

>>11492592
>>11493568
This but unironically. I don't want him to die because I hate him, but because I want his suffering to end. Mario's life was torture, and now that he's dead, he is no longer suffering. He wanted to die and he got what he wanted.

>>11492328
It didn't seem like his psychosis was getting worse. He didn't seem nearly as psychotic in 2020 as he did in 2019. He seemed to be able to express his thoughts more clearly at least.

>>11494036
>I expected at least a few of us to calmly reason with him and help direct his thought process to something more constructive or based in reality but I haven't found any evidence that ever happened.
There are apparently a few people who tried to do that while talking to him on his website.

>>11494381
>Shinichi Mochizuki posts on /sci/
Prove it

>>11494430
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7H9kwdw498

>>11494430
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7H9kwdw498

I feel bad, sad even

>>11494438
kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pno6Ir_nDAQ

>>11494844
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/nor-breeding-their-best/

>>11494438
confirmed for sure

>>11494390
then maybe it's like why antidepressants are associated with suicide risk: you don't kill yourself when you're at your worst, because you're too incapacitated by the illness. it's only when you start to slightly improve, but are still pretty far down a pathological path, that you take your life. it does take some planning and mental organization to succeed at a suicide attempt

>>11495346
True, but it didn't seem like he planned to kill himself leading up to the point when he did it. He seemed like he wanted to DMT and contact the entities first. He even made a post saying that suicide "won't work" to end his suffering due to the lack of a fully benevolent god.

>>11492455
>>11492536
Women secretly fantasize about being raped.

>>11494438

LOOL

Bump

>>11496944
Look for the number 22, do not think about it and just observe and you will soon understand.

>>11497143
2020
2 2

>>11497155
You got the idea. Follow the signs and you will come closer to the truth than your mind will understand.

>>11487770
Mario is literally this meme

>>11497143
>>11497173
Are there any other numbers or signs I should look for?

>>11497278
just be in harmony with yourself, like I mentioned in this thread: >>>/x/24540868

>>11494438
Crazy. Make a vid about IUT.

F

I've been thinking about him a lot these past two weeks. It's really sad. Rest In Peace my friend.

>>11499145
OMG OMG LMC POSTED Fs FOR MONTANO OMG GAMECHANGER

>>11487885
He got isekai’d

>>11492455
Cuck is suicidal, wow so surprised. He probably put to words what’s plaguing a lot of young men and it’s very dark. Industrial revolution was a mistake

>>11492301
So he was solipsistic

>>11490100
Sounds more like a tragedy of our times. His erectile dysfunction and perceived lack of talents is because a life of just consooming.

i watched some of his math proofs, and he wasn't very clear and i think his level wasn't very high but he was obviously very intelligent and had he come from a richer family probably would have had a much better path available to him
rest in peace if he really killed himself
this is the kind of kid that gifted classes should be for not some hyped up retarded jewish kid that flies planes at 9 yrs old because her daddy is a rich kike

>>11499659
>he was obviously very intelligent
This is the impression I get from reading and watching him. It's honestly very upsetting.

>>11499659
Why would he be any happier if he came from a richer family? I'm probably a lot richer than he was, but I'm still an autist who hates his life.

>>11499281
Based anti-civilization poster

>>11487885
He problaby was suicided by faggot alien extradimentional beings.

>>11499659
i don't think being rich would have helped, it's not like he was homeless, being as schizophrenic as he was meant a bleak prognosis

>>11500570
His parents are hard workers during their 9 to 5 routines but he resented them for spending all their free time watching tv while their brains rotted away, and conversely Montano spent his time learning and thinking 'n shit. If he had been born into a wealthier upbringing, and then somehow grown to become the same person he was (he wouldn't), so that he held the same ambitions and retained a comparable willpower, then he might be happier to have access to more interesting things and people.

>>11499659
I think you mean smarter parents or friends he could relate to. Not a richer family.

>>11489201
>5'11"
>
>6'
>not king of manlets
cope chart

>>11489617
why would you post that picture of yourself on an anonymous image board?

>>11500765
Because my reading comprehension sucks

>>11500612
>But I could do it! With my knowledge of mathematics, I could commit enough perfect crimes to get that money! And I will!
Why aren't more mathematicians out there committing perfect crimes? Has anyone tried this? I'm gonna try this.

>>11500570

wealth buys you 2 things: ability to bounce back from failures more easily (or at all) and access
coming from a family where the parents dont even speak english makes him actually even more so impressive, because it means he is largely "self taught"
i know plenty of children from math profs and they always turn out to be great at math because they get spoonfed a lot in their younger years

I just remembered we're on /sci/, the science board. We might as well try to learn something from this case study.

In retrospect, what went wrong? How could this have been avoided, in principle?

Was there something that could've been done to control montano's efforts to make sense of his reality.

How might we construct a method to "solve" montano?

Might it have been possible to salvage his once fanatical commitment to the scientific worldview that he reluctantly abandoned as psychosis gradually took hold of him?

Recall that Montano was remarkably lucid until the bitter end, and more so than he'd been in the past.

>>11501358
fuck off avatarfag deedee, you're not an anon anymore

>>11502063
I would've introduced him to league of legends, and played it with him.

>>11499659
>not some hyped up retarded jewish kid that flies planes at 9 yrs old because her daddy is a rich kike
sabrina is polish catholic and cuban catholic. as catholic as they come

>>11502073
I don't know who you think you're sperging at but I'm not them, and I'm definitely not an avatarfag.

>>11502063
For one thing, tell him not to take lithium. He was taking lithium for his depression and bipolar disorder, and lithium can causes psychosis and/or seizures when combined with psychedelics. His psychosis could have been triggered by him taking shrooms while also taking lithium on a regular basis.

>>11501358
>what is economics

>>11500612
Fuck. That sounds exactly like my life.

>>11501358
>Why aren't more mathematicians out there committing perfect crimes?
How oblivious are you, fucking retard? Is there a requirement for this board that you have to have low IQ and no attention span to post here?

>>11487770
who is montano, looks like a kid on steroids, probably Darwin award. why should i care him?

>>11502759
i have no imagination, and i dont understand geometry or math, thats why i was forced to focus on my concentration durability.

im just saying

>>11502759
>pic
Why is he writing his name incorrectly?

>>11502763
shut up newfag

>>11501358
Ted managed to avoid getting caught for almost 20 years.

>>11487770
f

>>11493737
>ALL LIFE IS SACRED.
Insufferable christcuck detected

>>11502873
>he doesnt know
Epsetein had his name legally changed from its original spelling of epstine.

>>11503560
>gets fucked by stylometry and backstabbing kin

dang I left a comment on this kid's website a few months ago hoping to reach out to him when he appeared to be in a psychosis. it's obvious even if he was a bit loony, understatement, that his mind was capable of some insight and that with some help he could have been an intriguing source of ideas. too bad it went so far

>>11503702
his original name was jamal epstine

>>11503560
because he did jack shit, only killed a bunch of tech workers. imagine if he attacked the ones actually responsible for the "industrial society" he wrote about: great businesses, governments and the rich

>>11505036
>he could have been an intriguing source of ideas.
no, montano just regurgitated crap. he never had one original thought aside from his infusions of anime references into various topics

>Torpor now besets me. I am no longer who I was in this video. This fact is both tragic and meaningless at once. The acts in this video are useless yet brave. I hope that I will learn to forgive myself for being such a failure. I have no love... Nothing to offer.

I found his channel a few days ago and watched a lot of his videos before finding his blog and realizing what had happened. Absolute shame. I wish I had the chance to interact with him. Strange to think that had I stumbled across him a month sooner, he’d have been a real person I could talk to still.

F

>>11505605
What would you have said to him if he was still alive?

>>11495040
>Decline
If this is true, many would not be able to open a door in just a few generations.

>>11506111
I wouldn't say anything at all.

>>11487770
I didn't know anyone else was following this besides the 12 people in his blog.

>>11505605
I share the same thought. I had just discovered him and woke up to see his last post the morning off. I contemplated reaching out to him but decided against it.

>>11506643
His YouTube channel has over 700 subs.

>>11506112
Even mentally retarded people can still open doors. Average IQs are expected to fall by about 1 standard deviation in a few hundred years, iirc.

>>11494438
xDDDDDDDDDDD

>>11506784
I was told once it takes an IQ of 50 to figure out a door knob.
Resident edgelords inform us that manuy of these countries have an IQ at 80, a generation is 20 years. With a drop of 5 per generation, it will take 100 years before they are barricaded behind doors.

I remain sceptial.

>>11506112
even dogs can open doors retard

>>11506111
Probably something dumb. It’s not like I think I had some magic words that would pull him out of his downward spiral. I would have just liked to talk to him—about his thoughts, experiences, interpretations, loneliness, disillusionment with even the idea of living on, anything really. His life.

My mind has a difficult time comprehending that if maybe I found him a month ago he had been a real human being that I could talk to, but now he just isn’t. I will never speak with him. No matter what impact any of his videos or writing have on me, he isn’t a real person that exists anymore.

In some way I’m afraid that I will follow his example. For the moment and past, I don’t have any obvious disorders, dysfunctions, and I have high aspirations for my life and work towards them. But I’m absolutely terrified that my mind will turn on itself and I could become delusional and suicidal.

I’m most horrified by the fact that some tiny voice inside me actually wants to be delusional, schizophrenic, and self-destructive—even though I am none of these things. And I don’t understand why.

>>11507576
His suicidal tendencies were nothing new. He first tried to kill himself 3 years ago.

>>11507697
Yes I am aware. Apparently his family believed he was doing better the year after that—completing high school and starting university—and then his mental health started deteriorating again.

>>11507721
that’s what happens when you do lesswrong. say no to lesswrong

>>11507576
thanks anon

/cric/ reporting in lads
pressing [math]\mathfrak{F}[/math] for big homie

>>11492455
Casca joined a mercenary band of her own free will. Unlike Guts, who was pressed into service against his will, Casca demanded that Giffith let her join. As mercenaries, she killed for profit. Viewers are made to empathize with her and the rest of the Band of the Hawk, but do they actually deserve our sympathy? The band lived by the sword, and they died by the sword. Only Guts has any innocence.

>>11505368
>>because he did jack shit, only killed a bunch of tech workers.
Nice job revealing that you know jack shit about the case.

>>11487770
bump :p

>>11507697
Was it for the same reason? His beliefs have changed a lot in the last three years, particularly in the last four months or so.

>>11510794
I'm not sure about the first time he attempted suicide, but as of more recently, here's something he said to me on R*ddit.

>>11494438
SHINICHI NOOOO

>>11510901
>I'm not sure about the first time he attempted suicide, but as of more recently, here's something he said to me on R*ddit.
Please post your conversations with montano. I'm compiling an archive of his online presence. Data on the internet tends to get lost with time, so it's important to collect things like this to preserve his memory.

>>11511000
That was my only conversation with him on Reddit. All other conversations I've had with him are on his blog and his YouTube channel. Here's a clip from a conversation about entheogens.

/sci/ is a completely different beast than any other board, I estimate the average IQ here to be around 130, most of the posts and discussions are actually very high level and inside this board there's /math/ which is even above normal /sci/ discussions.

>>11511000
Where will this be available? Archive.org?

Had a dream where he finally made another blog post. Still hope he isn't dead.

>>11511693
Mario didn't seem to think so.

>And I don’t understand your strategy. Presumably there’s not a monolithic opinion on 4chan so how do you know if the bears or the bulls are right? Also the quality of 4chan people strikes me as pretty low, contrary to your 150 IQ estimate.

>>11511818
What did he say in the blog post in your dream?

>>11512285
I didn't read it, woke up right away

>>11511000
>I'm compiling an archive of his online presence. Data on the internet tends to get lost with time, so it's important to collect things like this to preserve his memory.
You mean to tell me people actually archive /sci/? Do any of you happen to be sitting on an old /sci/ datahoard you'd be willing to share?

>>11512579
>>/sci/

>>11512579
>You mean to tell me people actually archive /sci/? Do any of you happen to be sitting on an old /sci/ datahoard you'd be willing to share?
pay in bits or favors? Yes.
>>11512599
>>>/sci/
He's obviously referring to a curated archive. A scixiv, if you will. You know, caps of threads worth preserving from the old /sci/ and the new.

>>11487770
He redpilled me on open individualism. Rip his body, he lives on in me. We are god

>>11513292
https://vitrifyher.com/2020/01/28/porn-and-oblivion/

>I am not you. Open individualism is the most horrible idea ever. I am not all of these disgusting people.

>>11513334
That's not me denying it. That's me be disgusted by OI. It is true, but I dont want to be the degenerate nigger on the street. It's sad that I am tho. OI is true and terrible

>>11513348
Why do you think OI is true?

>>11513412
You can watch Mario's videos on the topic, he actually explains it pretty well. Think about what defines your conscious experience. Read "A new theory of Open Individualism", it's a quick blogpost. Read "The egg" by Andy Weir for some intuition, short story. If you want a rigorous proof of OI read a serious treatment of it, like Daniel Kolak

>>11513463
>You can watch Mario's videos on the topic, he actually explains it pretty well.
And Mario later rejected his views in those videos. His justification for Open Individualism was based on reductive physicalism, which he later rejected in favor of Idealism. Why do you think he was right then but wrong later?

>Think about what defines your conscious experience.
I define my conscious experience as my "point of view", for lack of a better term. I am currently observing myself on /sci/ typing these words, existing as THIS particular human. This "thisness" is what I define as my "self".

>Read "A new theory of Open Individualism", it's a quick blogpost.
That article doesn't seem to rigorously show that OI is true though, just that Closed Individualism is on shaky philosophical grounds. He states that "although it seems like this qualia-bundle has partitions or boundaries, these apparent partitions are illusions.", which is stupid. If you're going to argue that qualia binding is an illusion despite being directly observable, you might as well go full Dennett and argue that consciousness in its entirety is an illusion. Andrés Gómez Emilsson also wrote this article rejecting OI in favor of Empty Individualism:

https://qualiacomputing.com/2019/12/27/one-for-all-and-all-for-one/

>>11513463
>Read "The egg" by Andy Weir for some intuition, short story.
"The Egg" just seems like a glorified form of Closed Individualism with reincarnation. If The Egg is true, you still have to concede that "you" are some entity that "moves" from lifetime to lifetime. The Egg doesn't seem particularly compatible with reductive physicalism or a block universe view of time, so you would probably have to concede some form of dualism.

>If you want a rigorous proof of OI read a serious treatment of it, like Daniel Kolak
I read the first few chapters of it, and none of Kolak's arguments made any sense to me. Would you mind giving a TL;DR? I've asked Open Individualists how they reconcile OI with the fact that I can directly observe being this particular human at this particular moment, and I've rarely gotten anything deeper than "It's just an illusion bro".

>>11493375
look at your cringy insults yourself. you would never do this irl. its pathetic. get a life

>>11513624
It's interesting the Mario is an idealist now, I actually am too. But idealism is totally compatible with OI. I dont see why he would reject OI after coming to accept idealism.

Ok, the question is what defines "me"? That is, the continuous experience of this consciousness. Two common answers are:
I am the collection of atoms in my body
I am the person with previous memories casually linked to me.

This is Closed individualism. It doesnt take much to see this view is non sensical. I could copy your atoms and make a clone of you. Despite having the same atoms and believing the clone is you, you wouldn't care if the clone got killed, his consciousness is different from yours. Alternatively, all the atoms in your bodies are replaced every seven years or so, but presumably the same conscious is in you as was in you 7 years back. So you are not defined by the atoms in your body. The blogpost refutes the casual chains of memory theory of personal identity

>>11513598
I'll read the link you sent, I wrote a paper once on how OI and EI are actually the same thing. OI just focuses on stable identity while EI focuses on experience. The way I see it, if someone believes EI to be true, they basically believe OI. I can share the paper with you if you want

>>11513624
Let me answer your question about OI, how come I can only feel like I'm me.

Imagine I split your brain in two, a hemispherectomy and put each half in a different body. Each body lives out their different lives and then I reverse the surgery and merge the brain again. The brain would realize that all the memories were not two different people but the same person from different perspectives. Like a security system with two cameras looking at each other.

"Your consciousness" only has access to the senses perceived by your body, if we were somehow able to merge brains you'd be able to sense the things I sense and the conscious would be "unified".

It might be worth adding that you dont have share the same consciousness as you 5 seconds ago, only the memories. This should at least make you an EI.

Also, Dan Dennett is an NPC.

>>11513624
Bernardo Kastrup on YouTube basically rediscovered open individualism and idealism himself. His stuff is worth viewing

>>11513698
>>11513706
>Two common answers are:
>I am the collection of atoms in my body
>I am the person with previous memories casually linked to me.
I don't consider my identity to be either of those things. I consider my identity to be my particular locus of awareness, the "thisness" of my current experience. If I was directly observing existing in your body instead of my body, I would consider that to be a fundamentally different reality.

>I can share the paper with you if you want
Post the link m8

Im new to /sci/ coming from /p/
can I get a quick rundown on this guy?

>>11513970
try reading the thread

>>11490100
doesn't seem schizo at all. seems rather sad.

>>11492301
It's not people being mean that are at fault, it's actually feeding vulnerable people nonsense like caring about life extension and antinatalism, that sort of thing, which snowballs into increasingly dangerous and disconnected obsessions. Really he shouldn't be online to begin with.

>>11514207
>Life extension is nonsense
Fuck off deathist

>>11513730
>Imagine I split your brain in two, a hemispherectomy and put each half in a different body. Each body lives out their different lives and then I reverse the surgery and merge the brain again. The brain would realize that all the memories were not two different people but the same person from different perspectives. Like a security system with two cameras looking at each other.
This would be evidence of Closed Individualism being false if it actually happened in reality. Although the furthest we've gotten is hemispherectomies on extremely young patients. It still might be possible to reconcile your anecdote with Closed Individualism though. Maybe your consciousness/soul only exists in one of the hemispheres, and the other becomes a P-zombie.

>>11505525
Barely anyone has original ideas.

>>11515142
This

>So a realistic lifetime of trying to adapt yourself to a broken civilization looks like:
>0–2 lifetime instances of answering “Yes” to “Can I substantially improve on my civilization’s current knowledge if I put years into the attempt?” A few people, but not many, will answer “Yes” to enough instances of this question to count on the fingers of both hands. Moving on to your toes indicates that you are a crackpot.
>Once per year or thereabouts, an answer of “Yes” to “Can I generate a synthesis of existing correct contrarianism which will beat my current civilization’s next-best alternative, for just myself (i.e., without trying to solve the further problems of widespread adoption), after a few weeks’ research and a bunch of testing and occasionally asking for help?” (See my experiments with ketogenic diets and SAD treatment; also what you would do to generate or judge a startup idea that wasn’t based on a hard science problem.)
>Many cases of trying to pick a previously existing side in a running dispute between experts, if you think that you can follow the object-level arguments reasonably well and there are strong meta-level cues that you can identify.

I miss you

>don't browse /sci for months
>follow montano's blog out of curiosity and fascination
>feel melancholy about him going missing
>check sci and montano thread

simulation :)

>>11516821
There are no patterns in nature. There is only humanity's psychological projection that there are patterns in nature.

>>11487770
Oh no, some ugly fat spic is missing, how awful

>>11517823
Big busta smarterden a plant

>>11517823
there are patterns in nature

>>11517887
name one

>>11517823
Do you think the sun will rise tomorrow?

>>11518645
sure, humans grow two arms if they aren't defective. You fucking retard. Don't (you) me again.

>>11518675
>>11518686
Both your perceived patterns are off by a wide margin. If you don't agree it is because the tool you are using isn't sensitive enough.

If there were patterns in nature, Pi would repeat.

>>11519588
>Both your perceived patterns are off by a wide margin. If you don't agree it is because the tool you are using isn't sensitive enough.
Elaborate on how they are "off by a wide margin" and my observations "aren't sensitive enough".

>If there were patterns in nature, Pi would repeat.
This is a retarded argument. The fact that Pi is irrational doesn't mean that absolutely nothing in nature has any sort of pattern.

>>11487770
Literally who
>>11487777
Based

>>11519588
We create pattern and we are nature.

>>11522155
I'M COFFING HERE!

>>11521833
Are you a biocentrist?

>>11521331
Newfag

what's gonna happen to his website? is anyone gonna archive it?

>>11523010
Are there any specific blog posts written by him that you want archived?

>>11513463
Ship of Theseus, clone problem, teleportation etc pretty much proves it

>>11523976
Ideally the whole site. I plan to try out Httrack when I get home to download the site but I have no idea how much disk space itll require.

>>11524248
No they don't. All of these philosophical questions deal with "you" as a specific configuration of atoms, not as a locus of awareness.

>>11489990
>>11489653
This. 6’4” is perfect height.

>>11522582
>biocentrist
Of course, everything else is irrational

bump, I'm just a future iteration of mario

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIno-PhSQlM

The was an article written about him in Spanish

https://purofutbolonline.com/local/familia-de-mario-alejandro-espera-milagro/

>And on the subject of staying at home (as it relates to coronavirus stuff), there is a mother who would give everything to see her son back home with his family. It’s the mother and family of Mario Alejandro Montaño who disappeared last March on the 3rd around Waukegan’s shore and who still hasn’t been found. We don’t forget about him her and we continue with hope in our hearts that we might fight him; we’ve received a lot of comments from people who are worried about Mario and his whereabouts, but unfortunately, and despite the efforts of his parents, we don’t have any sign of him. We’ll continue searching.

>>11525885
He sounds a lot like Chris Langan

>>11513348
Beautiful and terrible. All of existence is about surplus and deficits, growth and decay, change and stasis. By it's very nature, existence necessitates change, and change necessitates destruction and degeneration (and also creation). We are all part of a universal historical process that is much bigger than any of us as individuals. The same is true, not just of us, but the whole world around us and everything that exists. And I think that is a very beautiful thing.

>>11492889
Ignore the retards anon. Schizobro seems like he was genuinely a smart dude and he was pretty cool even though I never really watched more that 2 minutes of him or so.

>>11489201
Based

>>11527766
Based double dubs

What does /sci/ think of his writings from the mental hospital?

https://vitrifyher.com/2020/02/17/apotheosis-gilded-in-vague-chrysanthemums/

>>11487770
who?

>>11527754
>Schizobro seems like he was genuinely a smart dude
Especially given that he probably grew up bilingual — if it weren't for this thread I would've never guessed he was born to Mexican parents in the US. This board gets a ton of dumbass attention-seeking schizos but Montaño seemed like a cool guy with potential who just needed some guidance to get back on track. I'm not saying we should pamper to random strangers but at times like these, I wish this board wasn't infested with fucking normies and edgelords (pic related). Leave those for /b/ and /pol/, we're a blue board ffs.

>>11529157
What sort of guidance do you think could have gotten him back on track?

>>11529092
I can't explain the feeling at all because the words seem to have come directly from myself.

>>11529251
for one he could have gone to school for maths or physics.

I'm trying to recreate my entire undergrad experience of physics and math double major but with montano as a colleague. Man it would have been fun. Tho I had chubby qtpi gf through out college, a year younger than me that studied physics as well. Thats the fucked up thing, like looking back I can't believe that really happened, the way it did. She's basically disappeared since graduation. IDK, Montano is on to something with the hyperspace gf.

Man this shit is fucked up. I've watched all of his videos, checked in on his blog frequently. It was obvious he was inching further and further into schizo territory.

I can't help but think we failed him. Who besides us could have done anything? How can you possibly expect his Mexican normie family to even remotely grasp what this kid was dealing with?

I've been in that place Montano was in, and I clawed my way out of it, just barely. I doubt he would have listened to me, because he would have thought I was just another NPC sent by the simulation, but I should have at least tried.... fuck

>>11529635
nice try simulation

>>11502063
Based actual scientist on a board full of highschoolers

>>11513730
>Also, Dan Dennett is an NPC.
Pic related

Bump

>>11491250
That was schizoid as fuck

>>11533177
Do you mean schizoid or schizophrenic?

>>11487770
Didn't know this dude frequented /sci/. His videos starting popping up on my youtube feed some months ago.

Is this a common mode of suicide? I've never heard of people drowning themselves this way. Will his body be found?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4yDi_wWMVk

How long does it take for bones to decompose underwater? Does sediment prevent someone from finding his bones? I'm curious as to whether or not his remains could be recovered in principle.

>retarded garbage gets 300 replies
sounds about right

>>11536920
I live in Chicago and it is not unheard of for people to drown themselves in the lake. Another suicidal person I was acquainted with also died this way.
>>11536969
Are you serious? Water doesn't dissolve bones. Ever boil soup with bones?

>>11537788
>Are you serious? Water doesn't dissolve bones. Ever boil soup with bones?
I have never confirmed this myself, so I was just making sure. Again, I if his remains (bones) are currently recoverable, in principle (such that they can be feasibly detected). Further, I want to know if sediment would accumulate such as to make this difficult or impossible, on ordinary timescales at the depths of the lake he targeted (pic rel).

>>11537832
Well we know that it does not decay bones in all cases, there are obviously bones and fossils in the water. It is a freshwater lake, the person I mentioned before has not been found. Variability in the temps can change this. The body bloats as it decays, and causes it to float, so assuming that animals did not eat his entire body it will float and bob around the ends of the water, perhaps a pier or beach. Assuming the flesh is eaten or it no longer floats, it would be covered by sediment and stationary where the body sunk, and likely not recovered easily with current technology, nearly impossible unless they know the tides and where he jumped off. I am not sure about the effects of the temperature on the body and bloating (on lake Michigan), its possible it sunk and when it gets warmer it will float to the top assuming again that animals have not eaten him yet.
>>11502063
Did he have real friends? Having real friends that would have made him reluctant to go off into other worlds may have helped. Is there someone else like this around chicago? I will gladly be friends with them, to help prevent such a tragedy.

>>11537894
>Did he have real friends? Having real friends that would have made him reluctant to go off into other worlds may have helped.
Pic related. He never made any friends at school, although he apparently was friends somewhat with Andrés Gómez Emilsson.

>Is there someone else like this around chicago?
There are a number of LessWrong/Slatestarcodex/Effective Atruism meetups in areas around the world, which includes Chicago. Although I am unaware of any evidence that he ever attended such a meetup.

https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Less_Wrong_meetup_groups#Chicago.2C_IL

>>11537894
Someone named Amalie apparently offered to be his friend.

Thread hit the bump limit.

I don't want OI to be true. by sheer will I oppose it

>>11539090
OI doesn't seem internally consistent. The Egg, for instance, seems like it is just CI with reincarnation, and doesn't seem compatible with reductive physicalism.

>>11539075
I might start another thread after I've made archives of his website and post them there.