/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11406606
the same thing that's in store for men

>>11406611
total species annihilation?

>>11406611
Yes, but, what exactly is in store for men when general AI performs all mental tasks and mindless robots perform all physical duties?

>>11406614
It would be one giant AI, and a swarm of robotic drones to execute its plans.

>>11406606
>artificial embryos
Do you mean "artificial wombs"?

>>11406618
Yes

>>11406606
>when
>not if
SOOOOIIIIIEEEEENNNNCCEEE YAAAAAAAAS

>>11406730
Here's your upvote

>>11406606
>Another incel thread

>>11406765
Not really. This is actually something I've been thinking about.

>>11406611
Wrong.

>>11406765
It is a topic that is worth unironic consideration. Robotics tech and AI that can do household tasks and pantomime human interactions vaguely convincingly would have massive socioeconomic implications. (i.e. no human being ever needing to perform manual labor ever again).

We will all most likely be dead before it becomes possible though.

>A machine with the same weight, durability, strength, and dexterity as a human with a power source that lasts longer than 5 minutes without generating excess heat and is affordable for the average joe.

We aren't even close.

Also

>Artificial Wombs

Will either be tightly regulated or straight-up banned. Being able to mass-manufacture human beings outside of a state's system (right now the gubbermint knows who you are from the moment you're born) represent a threat to the status quo.

>>11406843
>right now the gubbermint knows who you are from the moment you're born
No it doesn't. There are tons of unregistered births, no matter which country you're born in.

>Artificial Wombs
>Will either be tightly regulated or straight-up banned.
Yeah, because if they aren't regulated, everybody is going to buy a 3 million dollar piece of hospital equipment, in order to circumvent the government. It's not like people can just give birth at home.

/s

>>11406852
>Yeah, because if they aren't regulated, everybody is going to buy a 3 million dollar piece of hospital equipment, in order to circumvent the government. It's not like people can just give birth at home.

Everybody? No. Corporations? Why not?

>>11406860
A corporation wants a baby? Why?

Babies are super-expensive. And it's not like you can put them to work, for at least 10 years. Plus, if you ever get caught, it's jail time and ridiculously expensive lawsuits. A fuckload of cost, and a thousand fuckloads of potential cost. With no way to make a profit.

>>11406606
then there will only be AI that breeds humans for creativity input.

AI builds space ships and flys to new worlds than colonizes it with humans who learn the techstuff and advance it.

>>11406606
Women will eventually have to replace dairy cows as a means of Milk production for human consumption.
of course this can only be viable if by the term, "Women", you are specifically and exclusively referring to anime waifus

>>11406852
>everybody is going to buy a 3 million dollar piece of hospital equipment,
Some will.

>>11406606
I am aware it's a silly thread about virgin rants, but I enjoy to reply seriously anyway:
>artificial wombs
Good for anyone, especially for women.
You may not know it yet, but they don't really like their deformed belly and all the troubles that comes with it.
>sexbots
If they are so good to be mistaken for real people we have a little more on the plate to think about than just sex.
If they aren't they will not be a substitute for real relationships.

>>11407728
Pregnant women are hot

>>11406606
Freedom

nothing will happen to woman.

most woman don't want to have children anymore, unless they are 3rd worlders. but it does mean that over-time people who refuse to reproduce will be taken out of the gene pool

>>11406606
>What's in store for human interaction once Second Life and Oculus Rift become mainstream?
Leave your basement once in a while, yeah?

>>11406843
>The government magically knows when a person is born through sorcery

>>11406843
i do believe artifical wombs will be banned on the spot. the reasoning will be some bullshit to protect baby's rights.- but in reality its to protect woman's legitimacy to produce babies.- just like when you ban prostitutes to "protect woman's rights".

however, if woman outright refuse to have children as a collective (which is plausible in these crazy times). it might force them to into some bullshit initiative like "the natural nurseries" to defy misogynists in science, i can already see this happening.

>>11407636
>Women will eventually have to replace dairy cows as a means of Milk production for human consumption.
God, I can only hope.

>>11407762
>Look at my incel fantasies guys

>>11406606
Who cares. It's not like they are suddenly going to improve themselves now that they have competition. So long as women do not interfere with me or my robot wife, they can do what they want.

I doubt that will happen though. We are already seeing feminist campaigning to put restrictions on sexbots and it is only going to get worse as the technology improves and becomes more mainstream.

>>11407862
You should have gone outside more as a child. There is no hope for you, and your genes will not be present in the future.

>>11406606
>What's in store for women when sexbots and artificial embryos become mainstream?
Sexbots are the ultimate solution to the sexual liberation of the West and they will restore all power to men. Sexbots will serve as bargaining chips against women; women will be forced to do everything they can to get the attention of men.

Thots will also be out of business; no more escorts, strippers, and camgirls making money from thirsty men.

I'm kind of offended that people keep referring to them as sexbots rather than waifubots.

>>11407940
>All men are spaghetti-limbed incels like me and want to fuck dolls instead of having sex with actual women like most men actually do

>>11406606
nothingness.
they will simply disappear in the background slowly over the years that'll follow.
without them holding men back, we will finally see men unleashed and see how far can they go.

>>11407958
at first they'll be that, but slowly the rise of waifus will inevitably happen.

>>11407959
cope

>>11406615
Pursuit of creative enlightenment. Approach towards splendid human expression.

>>11407959
>coping
>assuming a lot
>inmediatly defensive and proceed to shame
>be bothered by a mere replacement of biocunts
>literally feeling threatened about a plastic doll that can do homeshores, cook and sex
>helds double standards
why do you care about what "incels" do? it shouldn't matter what they do or what to do with their lives and money.
why does it bother you so much? these dolls are a perfect solution to the problem that is an incel? or...do you like complaining about problems that much?.

>>11406606
It would be wonderful for both genders, males can get all the sex they want so they are no longer distracted by their sexual urges. This will allow the to focus on better things. Women will no longer be viewed as sex objects, can 100% focus on their careers, and will achieve true equality. win-win for both.

>>11408771
Exactly how I see it.
SCIENCE PLEASE HURRY

>>11406606
Egg donations, painless birth proccesses and robotic nannies. Next question.

>>11406606
>>11406611
But when all people have become useless, self-prop systems will find no advantage in taking care of anyone. The techies themselves insist that machines will soon surpass humans in intelligence. When that happens, people will be superfluous and natural selection will favor systems that eliminate them-if not abruptly, then in a series of stages so that the risk of rebellion will be minimized.

Even though the technological world-system still needs large numbers of people for the present, there are now more superfluous humans than there have been in the past because technology has replaced people in many jobs and is making inroads even into occupations formerly thought to require human intelligence. Consequently, under the pressure of economic competition, the world's dominant self-prop systems are already allowing a certain degree of callousness to creep into their treatment of superfluous individuals. In the United States and Europe, pensions and other benefits for retired, disabled, unemployed, and other unproductive persons are being substantially reduced; at least in the U. S., poverty is increasing; and these facts may well indicate the general trend of the future, though there will doubtless be ups and downs.

>>11408963
The irony here is that Ted knows how to make vastly superior self propelling algorithms, yet doesn't realize that you can add limits to them.

>>11408970
Maybe he was counting on, that in all the chaos, someone would build or bypass those limits intentionally. Then it would turn from a machine turning off, to a murder of a sentient being.

>>11407762
Prostitutes aren't banned in many countries (e.g. here only pimping is illegal) so that's a bad argument.

>>11406606

In case you didn't notice there is plenty of people out there willing to butcher themselves to look like women. And most parents in advanced countries want a daughter instead of a son.

Advanced machines will make strong workers obsolete and advanced AI will make scientists obsolete. We will be pets to the machines. Or get annihilated.

>>11411050
>sweeping generalizations
Wow, you couldn't have made a worse argument if you tried.

>>11406615
The incels will rise to power

>>11406606
Extinction.

>>11406606
The masterful resusitation of the honey-do list

>>11407740
Through mandatory birth certificates yes. Doctors and midwives get charged with a misdemeanor if someone reports to the registrar that they didn't issue a birth certificate. If you have a home birth with no midwife then you, or the owner of the building is supposed to report the birth. You can't even be born without having a number and a collection of data assigned to you

>>11406606
>implying masturbating into an electric machine is any less shameful that jacking into a fleshlight
Cope incels.
Technology will never fulfill you.

>>11411572
Many men drop out of society to COOM and play vidya. Technology is clearly fulfilling.

>>11411527
That's too slow an extinction for my liking.

Let me explain what's going to happen. It will happen with women first. Once artificial sperm hits the market (and it's only a few years away if not sooner)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/scientists-create-artificial-human-eggs-and-sperm/

Women will give birth to other women's babies. Then you'll see the world's first city created … somewhere, which will be women only. They'll pass laws so only women can live there. They'll attract women from all over the world. The women there will marry each other, give birth to each other's babies, and pretend it's paradise.

It won't be. It'll be a fucking hell hole. But they won't want to admit it. They'll prop it up in media. They'll pretend everything's fine. They'll be so desperate to make it work they'll ignore it's primary flaw. Women, are, fucking, EVIL.

I worked in a home for girls for 3 years. I was a glorified security guard, my job was basically to be a guy on site because parents were too scared to send their daughters, hopped up on meth when they arrived, sit through 3-6 months of rehab without a man somewhere on site so they could sleep well at night.

Yes, most of it was drug addiction but like 15% of the girls were there because they got knocked up and the parents sent them to a facility because they were too embarrassed to explain to their rich Christian neighbors why their daughter was pregnant. They would stay at our place, at great expense mind you, until their baby was born, sent for adoption somewhere, and they could return home pretending all was well and pretend their daughter could still marry a rich fucker and keep the family secret buried in some small town in Utah. Rich people. I hate fucking rich people.

Sorry, anyway. I practically lived and worked with girls for 3 years. Girls hold grudges and are mean about it. Girls get in cliques and woe upon those who cross the clique. Holy shit.

No illusions. Girls are fucking scary. I can only imagine a city of them.

They'll call it paradise.

>>11412593
They'll pretend all their problems are solved because men are gone. They'll scour the earth trying to attract all women everywhere to abandon society and come live with them on their 'Amazon Island' or whatever they think they've built. Men, men won't fucking care. Men will go out and build cities, have wars, advance science. We'll eventually make sexbots that can bear children. We'll make artificial women, have children, enjoy our families. So while we're exploring space, colonizing mars, creating cities in space, we'll carry our fake women with us and we'll be better off for the hell we left behind.

>>11406606
Tax all men 10% of their annual income for women.

>>11406615

We would probably be peasants while corporations trade with each other instead of with us.

Don't children need both a father and a mother for healthy psychological development? I hate women but it seems to me they are a necessary part of humanity. In which case I hate humanity too, but I take it those interested in artificial wombs want to keep humanity going.

>>11406606
Maybe they will sell some stuff they can inject males to stop being sexually obsessed.

>>11413053
Nah. Just a tribe. I reckon historically humans were raised by their tribes with many moms and dads. The single mother and father is a religious construct.

Using the same 4 or 5 chads like they already do.

>>11413053
>I’m an incel who has never seen a naked woman except for my mom once. I hate myself and I hate everyone else. I will die alone and a failure. Look at me.

>>11412593
>Incel makes up a fiction story and posts it on 4Chan

>>11406852
>3 million dollar piece of hospital equipment
Hint: it's only 3 million dollars because it's sold to hospitals. It doesn't really cost that much.