/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11383167
you've never actually experienced what it's like to be around stupid people. Once you get a job and have to interact with people who never went to college you will understand.

>>11383171
The SAT before the 1980's was the equivalent to an IQ test. Past the 1980's SAT scores are primarily similar to the ACT which is about how much you have memorized about subjects. Once the IQ requirement for schools dipped people on average at the places became dumber but more conscientious. Top that with some Dunning-Kruger pseudo-intellectualism and extreme liberalism you got yourself a hellscape.

>>11383190
>The SAT before the 1980's
Apparently the correct dating of this change is 1994.

>>11383205
Didn't it start in california?

>>11383218
Where it is. Being at the University of South Florida that place was literally like visiting a zoo. The students there were literally hooting and hollering like apes in the jungle and they had to hire people to collect garbage from the sidewalks every morning because the students are so subhuman.

>>11383220
>Where it is.
*Where-ever it was.

>>11383220
The only decency at that place was early in the mornings at around 6:00am. Come the afternoon people are "yell conversing", walls all around the apartment complex are being banged on incessantly, liberal groups are all around the campus yelling random things with flyers, white girls dating as dark skin color of a person they can and looking at white males like they're "proving a point against the oppressive white males". Literally the place should be nuked from orbit.

>>11383167
The average IQ of college graduates is still 115 though.

>>11383247
Extremely doubt this.

>>11383220
Yo I also go there. Can confirm many mongoloids. Can we be frens?

>>11383257
I left their engineering program to join the military last year.

>>11383259
True, probably not a bad idea. I'm only now going back cause I dropped out of my physics degree to trade shitcoins in 2017. Still wondering whether or not I should keep going and instead just get some infosec certs. I fucking hate it here man. I feel real isolated and the costs for all this bullshit don't seem justified.

>>11383171
this, I had a coworker who took 2.5 hours of leave and didn't know how much regular time to put on his timesheet, because he couldn't subtract 2.5 from 8. He was about 30.

>>11383275
what was your shittiest coin

>>11383259
Whatever political thing(s) are going on in this country the current path is seemingly like the fall of Rome if university is an indicator of a future infrastructure. Best thing to do is participate in the military-industrial complex, get paid, get static investments, and see where things lead to in the future. Right now university is a complete scam just looking at how certain demographics are pushed up and others pushed down (mostly whites and/or males) even in rigorous STEM classes. Certain professor(s) at the university purposefully fail most of their students to retake the class because USF has a payment policy to where if you diverge from a 4-year plan you have to pay a huge fee. You guys can go get scammed at these institutions for pieces of paper that are quickly losing their value and down multiple $10,000s.

>>11383275
Yeah going to USF felt like I was being taken for a sucker.

>>11383284
The shittiest shit coin I traded was either salt, etheroll, or xrp. I got in pretty early on all that shit though, got eth at like 7 bucks when I heard the eea announcement. I got hacked though when I took all my money to short the market on bitmex in like February 2018. Lost like 100k and whatever paper gains I could've made shorting neo/btc. Now I got like 5k in monero that's it.

>>11383288
Fucking genshaft giving everyone the shaft. It's a shit tier uni yet she was like top 10 highest paid professors in the country. Ridiculous. Probably has something to do with all the corporate bs on campus

>>11383286
or you could have just bought ETH last month for a +100% gains.. stay med you nocoiner plebian piece of fucking shit ahahha

>>11383298
Reading her wikipedia seems to be a millionaire from Russia. Also just randomly: 'In June 2019, Genshaft and her husband donated $20 million to USF for the construction of a new honors college.' How much money did they make from this university exactly

>>11383303
I have coins but I can never get them back or transform them into actual money because the exchange it was in decided overnight to force KYC garbage and hold my coins hostage until I doxx myself for them. I'm glad I didn't put much into the coins. Must be worth about $10k right now in total.

>>11383304
Something shady man. Administration is really unnecessarily bloated and overpaid. Makes me sick to my stomach. Idk what the answer is though. I feel like I would be even more isolated outside of school

>>11383313
Well, Tampa is a bit of a shithole overall. I feel ya. Luckily enough I don't live there.

>>11383316
I'd probably already be somewhere else if it weren't for my dogs and the fact I'm broke af now. How old were you when you switched to the military? I gave it some thought but I feel like 22 is too old to join for a few years and then still go to uni after.

>>11383321
Do what's smart.

>>11383167
The worst part is that they are still above average

>>11383322
I hope I can find out what that is. I dont really trust my judgement anymore. My only hope rn has been working toward these hacking certs and stacking monero

>>11383340
The dollar is a scam created without inflation and pumped into the military-industrial complex. Can go into how our economy is about services and has way more imports than exports, but that's the gist. Either be a hamster eating from the food bowl or not.

>>11383344
>Ron Paul 2012
Fuck man dont get me on that train of thought I fucking hate the federal reserve with all my being. Itd be great if we can have some transnational decentralized e democracy on the blockchain or something along those lines and just use crypto but I feel like if I want to get anywhere I have to willingly play these rigged games.

>>11383359
Not really. If the petrodollar fails the country would collapse overnight. Our economy cannot compete even with third world nations without a rigged dollar.

>>11383220
Sounds like you're getting old, bro

>>11383364
>shiet *smacks lips* u be sayin i be apes an shiet? Liek hell naw, cracka, u be ol' and shiet bix nood

>>11383362
Yeah that's a sad reality. pump up the military so we can make other countries hold our dollar so we can influence the global economy. Print 500b and give it to hedge funds, fuck anyone that doesn't actually hold assets.

>>11383369
A lot of the more human people are the university were actually African American. But yeah I see the humor angle.

>>11383382
>are the
*at the

>>11383369
Nigga shut your old boomer mouth up.

>>11383167
I'd prefer more people think like this, it keeps the dumb people out of universities.

>>11383388
Knowledge and jargon = intelligence. Idk if you knew that, sir.

>>11383281
It's really painfully obvious whenever I do anything remotely trivia-adjacent with my gf's non-college educated friends. They just don't know anything at all.

>>11383167
That's what happens when your society is bent over backwards to please corporations, instead of regulating their endless greed. In Europe you don't have to be in debt for life to have an education that will make you be a more valuable (and profitable) member of society, because its well known that universities are one of the best investments for the future of a nation. Since our uni are not made to turn a profit, but to produce the ruling class of the future, they're way more efficient, and this means better education at a lower cost, which means very little money to generate more competent people that will be worth more and thus earn more, and will generate more wealth for the nation. This people will also innovate and rule the nation with their superior intellect. Your system instead has produced and is producing an ever growing amount of highly disfunctional people, obsessed with their emotions, and unable to face reality, completely incapable of rationality, with no useful skill whatsoever, while shackling them to a gargantuan debt for the privilege. All this for the ultimate goal of enriching people already ludicrously rich. You Americans should be rioting in the streets for a better social system that nurtures the future generations instead of leeching on them, but instead all you care is your stupid killing toys and your favorite buzzword of all: freedom. Ironically you're as enslaved as the chinese, if not more, it's just that you don't want to admit it.

>>11383417
Tbh this is partly why I'm learning to hack. None of my advisors told me studying in germany was even an option when I asked them about it.

>>11383422
For legal reasons though not really

>>11383417
this system breaks down when mass immigration destroys your national identity.

>>11383167

Universities were always for rich people
There was a time when only the richest people had access to pretty much any education at all

>>11383417
yeah thats why european science is so shit and america is rich and wealthy and is #1 in literally everything. you are a bunch poor fags already, you don't need any more idiots with diplomas.

>>11383455
Based retard dabbing on uppity Euromidwits.

>>11383448
Nope. Literally never happened.

>>11383167
I'm in a grad program, interacting with college students and professors is so much better than having to deal with people who can't even figure out what to eat without spending 2 hours on going back and forth (I'm looking at you, HR and MBA shitheads)

I agree completely OP. I attend the University of Arizona and I notice the "best" students (grade wise) are just the most sheepish. I'm a crafty student on the other hand, I seek out these "best" students because of their lack of intelligence makes it easy for me to "learn" what I need to know without effort.

By sheepish, I'll explain using an example. I befriended this really smart guy who destroys the grading curves in all his classes (He's a physics + astronomy double major). He apparently commits his entire day every day to doing homework and studying his course material. He spoke to his adviser and they told him to take a class over the summer so that he can graduate within 4 years. The thing is, summer tuition is expensive as fuck, but he just goes with it no questions asked. I doubt the sentience of these people to be honest, they're like robots that exist to be cogs in the wheel.

Education favors slave-minded people because they just keep their head down, take their notes, study for their exams, and never question why they're doing it all. None of the shit they learn in university will even be relevant/used in their future careers. This is all coming from the perspective of someone in molecular biology (Junior) though. An apprenticeship in a research lab would be a much better alternative to wasting time and money in a lecture learning about random shit.

>>11383205
all they did in 1994 was remove antonym questions, add math grid-ins, and replace the TSWE with a couple extra short verbal and math sections. you could always study for it, people only first realized this in the '80s.

>>11383167
>government-backed loan policy
What do you mean by loan policy? Isn't college free?
>>11383171
Pretty much this

>>11383445
I blame boomers more than nigger desu

>>11383521
If he's not swimming in scholarships he's seriously retarded.

>>11383167
wtf I'm redpille dnow time to browse /pol

>>11383167
>disprove a fact
Nice try, OP.

>>11383171
This is scary. I don't think I could handle it. But I do want the money. What do?

>>11383167
>Prove me wrong
no

>>11383167
As it became harder and harder for people to have a reasonable middle class living from just a high school diploma, more and more people started pushing their kids to go to college. It was no longer a place for truly higher learning, but just the next step after high school.
Then the government had the bright idea to hand out loans to 18 year olds, loans which couldn't be discharged via bankruptcy. Universities soon realized that it didn't matter how much they charged for tuition, 18 year olds would fork over that sweet loan money. To attract said kids, an arms race engaged where colleges exploded their budgets with tons of campus luxuries and bloated administrative staff.

Hopefully people are starting to wise up and realize that mortgaging your future for a 4 year summer camp isn't worth it.

>>11383167
no its just a filtering mechanism for society

>>11383171
>Once you get a job and have to interact with people who never went to college you will understand.
ya you'll understand how nice it is to be around people who aren't conceited little faggotchildren

>>11383455
>america is rich and wealthy and is #1 in literally everything

United States of America is a country where the money is king, every thing is a commodity, and the value of a man is measured exclusively by the number of money in his bank account. The president has as much power as the heads of the largest companies allow him. In this jungle of wild capitalism, unimaginably wealthy people look from behind the darkened limousines to the repulsive ghettos of the colorful poor.

You can not count on the care of the state. Every day crowds of parents are afraid to send their children to school. A classmate can, after all, use the legal weapon of his parents and shoot someone even unintentionally. To all this comes a foreign policy, usually one-sided and completely misunderstood - let's look at Iraq or the Kyoto protocol. Overwhelmed by teleevangelical and consumer noise, America is undoubtedly receding into the darkness of the modern neofeudalism.

>>11384400
Point proven

>>11384430
mine as well LOL stuck-up spoiled little brat cunt

So much bullshit in this thread.
xD

OP is right,
University is just about conformity, not actually gaining valuable knowledge, thereforce you can ditch it.


IF you care about knowledge, you wont need university because you can learn everything from internet.
Almost.

If you want to show your employer you are obedient drone,
you will probably get a degree.

Anyway, school nowdays is not about knowledge and never will be.

>>11384427
Have you actually traveled the western world?
Your talking points sound like something I'd hear from a Danish person who thinks the US is IRL robocop, or from an American college student whose experience consists of their parent's middle class suburb and artificial university atmosphere.

>>11384449
>If you want to show your employer you are obedient drone,
>you will probably get a degree.
Sadly I was not born into wealth, so to get the well paying comfy job I have now, a degree was a necessity.

>>11384692
I am Polish and I never have been in USA . Outside Poland I visited only Germany and Netherland .

>>11384719
If you do get the chance to visit the US, I think you'll find that it's not nearly as dire as you describe.
It can seem that way looking from the outside in because there is a strong culture of the media acting as a way to keep the government and other powerful figures in check. Since the US is the biggest + most influential western power, US news gets reported all over the world.

As an American, I had a much different idea of Europe than what I experienced after moving here.

>>11383417

College tuition prices are ultimately the fault of government for interfering in the free market, like housing prices and healthcare costs. It is as far from the free market as you can get.

>>11383167

Try going to a T20. The job opportunities are well worth it and the non-humanities staff I had were very good.

>>11383445

Open borders, no welfare, social security, etc. is paradise for real liberals like myself. Capitalism is the only way for humanity to progress off this rock and ensure our survival long term. Man made climate change is a good force for pushing us forward.

>>11384734
>Capitalism is the only way for humanity to progress off this rock and ensure our survival long term.

The free market, despite its advantage, has largely lost the opportunity to create events in the economy in favour of various financial instruments "which cannot fail" and which have nothing to do with the free market. Some bizarre tax havens to avoid paying fair taxes, algorithms controlling the flow of finance. Capitalism is utopian because capitalism believes that greed is good, but greed is good only short-term. Capitalism does not think what will happen in the next 10, 20, 30 years, Capitalism doesnt think about the future social cost, a good metaphor of current capitalism is in my opinion the movie 'The Wolf of Wall Street'. It's a fallen play, for total social destruction.

>>11384763

No, it's the fault of people for giving government power/control to legislate things it should never have had the scope to.

>>11383521
>take a class over the summer so that he can graduate within 4 years. The thing is, summer tuition is expensive as fuck, but he just goes with it no questions asked.

even if the tuition is expensive, he'd be saving an entire semester's worth of time by graduating early, and in that time he could be working full-time making decent money and gaining experience for a promotion. I don't see what the problem here is

>>11384802
Except it's precisely the lack of supervision that caused this shit to happen in the first place. Monopolies prevent competition, they don't improve it. Retard.

>>11384400
People who didn't go to college are also faggotchildren, but illiterate ones

>>11385549

>>11384802
>No, it's the fault of people

Its just how capitalism work IN REALITY , not in some utopian visions of utopian society.

Ask yourself: Do I need to study "Underprivileged Basketball-American Studies of Afro Musicology" to become an engineer? Why not just go to a university that doesn't required these filler courses?

>>11385549
illiterate AND they will resent you for even the slightest hint of intellectualism

>>11385684
There is no such university. However, you can negotiate with the person in charge of your program to get them substituted for real courses. This is what I did, and I got the equivalent of a math minor from the trade.

>>11384427
>t. God Bless America (2011) screenwriter

>>11385915
nice reference

Does any uni offer cheap Masters in CS for foreigners?
Im from a poor Balkans country (not in the EU).
I want to get out of here by doing a Masters and then university helping me get a job but all the ones I looked at were like 20$/euro k a year for foreigners.

>>11385970
Many unis from well-funded programs (cancer research, ml, mainstream engineering professions) usually pay you to get a master's. Not much though but it will help reduce tuition costs. Your best bet is probably to get a job in the country you want to study in and save up enough for the master's. Additionally, your job might pay for your master's if it's a reputable place.

>>11383521
You sound like a huge, pretentious faggot

>>11383521
Yeah but the thing is everyone already knows this.

>>11385998
What if you had the recipe for a secret chemical process that was dismissed by literally any other chemical process

>>11385998
I don't think that is my best bet because probably noone would give a foreigner like me a job.
They would have to deal with helping me get a work visa since my passport doesn't allow me to live in most of other countries.
Why would they do that when they could hire some local instead?
So I figured I'd pay for the tuition, get a study permit, land a job through university career office or whatever it offers and get a work visa then.
So Im asking which university has lower tuition than others to foreigners?

>>11386960
>Why would they do that when they could hire some local instead?
Because locals are more expensive.

>>11383521
I agreed at first about sheep but then I realized you were coping about someone being better than you

>>11385704
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectualization

>>11384449
> memorize stuffs from wiki article
> yay I have understood it, universities are unnecessary >:(
> cant solve simple textbook exercises

People who couldn't get into universities often have this cope that studying for a degree makes you a drone, but in fact these same people couldn't pass any exam, even of introductory courses at a decent university

If you can't understand established framework and apply it to solve toy problems in exams, which are prepared by the professionals, then real world problems are surely hopeless for you. The illusion of understanding after reading and doing some meme online tests can make you confident, but what you went through is much less rigorous, less challenging than the course at even a low tier university.

Maybe you believe you are the next Bill Gates, but Bill Gates went to a university. Being a dropout Bill Gates never trusted his company to another dropout. Dude actually tried to kick Allen (the other dropout/ co founder) out, and succeeded. He only recruited people with a degree to for both management and technical positions. In fact Bill Gates handed CEO position to his classmate Steve Balmer who scored higher than him in Putnam exam and graduated magna cum laude from Harvard :))

You can see the same pattern in any company built by smart 'dropout'. They understand people without degree more than anyone. Statistically speaking, those without degree are inferior to those with degree in every aspect, from academic knowledge to problem solving skills. The modern job market reflects that fact. Companies only hire those with no degree and all talk to do menial labor jobs, they make the best drones. Or maybe you think you can build a startup from self studying? lol I hope people arent dumb enough to plan their future based on the belief that they are a statistical anomaly.

>>11385581
Tesla went insane and cheated multiple investors out of their money chasing ghosts for decades before they told him to fuck off

>>11383167
correct

>>11383167
living in france, you're wrong bro.

>>11384400
Non-college grads are usually conceited and insecure. "I didn't need to college, I went to the school of life!".

>>11385684
>>11385904
I've never heard of a university forcing people to study something unrelated to their subject. I'm a mech e guy and the most unrelated thing I've done is a business module.

>>11387234
that's called humor dipshit

>>11383167
>These places are no longer for smart people
Ring Ring
The 1970s called

>>11384427
the bottom 20% of americans are wealthier than the average european lmao, the poverty rate in the US is lower than most europoor countries, shut the fuck up with this nonsense.

>>11387259
Wealthy is only a useful metric if:
- You are a company, not a person, and intend to do international trade
- You intend to flee your shithole and need a bit of cash to be let in
- You plan to retire in a country different than your own
In any other case, wealth is the most useless metric ever, and local purchasing power is what you should be caring about. Local purchasing power, moreover, that takes into account aid and services. Having $1000 where a loaf of bread costs $10000 is nothing. Having $1000 where a loaf of bread costs $0.10 is plenty. Having $0 where housing is freely provided by the government is something, having $1000 where housing costs $1m minimum is not even worth mentioning.
In terms of standards of living as well: you need to be ridiculously wealthy to get a maid in the US, whereas even poor students get a maid in india.

>>11387283
And you're gonna argue that the average indian's ppp is greater than the average american? Also
>FrEe HoUsInG
that's paid for through YOUR taxes you fucking imbecile, the PPP in the US far exceeds that of the EU, and unsurprisingly the single greatest driving force in the US housing bubble is the government's reluctance in repealing zoning laws to favor current home owners. Call me again when we see the fruits of Berlin's rent control in 5 years.

>>11387309
Congrats, you're officially clinically retarded.

>>11387310
I'm not the communist though.

>>11387259
>in the United States two thirds of personal bankruptcies are filed because of healthcare costs following a medical emergency
>one third of all gofundme campaigns go towards covering medical bills
If you continue repeating yourself your society isn't completely disfunctional maybe it will become true, just keep trying.

>>11387355
lol just because those retards go out of their way to pay their medical bills doesnt make the rest of us retards. you will never be denied healthcare in this country. just go to the E.R. everytiem and dont give a fuck.

>>11387337
Even the most retarded communist is like a never-before-seen genius compared to you. The garden-variety rocks in my yard rightfully look down on your stupidity. You done fucked up.

>>11387376
>Even the most retarded communist is like a never-before-seen genius compared to you
>implying communists differ in their level of retardation

>>11387355
Yep, the ACA was a mistake

>>11387376
Says the fucking moron who's incapable of comprehending that the US has in both absolute and relative a larger ppp than the EU

>>11387241
It's not humour. The whole "school of life" and "street smart" stuff is a massive attempt at coping with the fact that they feel inferior to people with higher education. It's stupidly easy to trigger the "don't think you know everything just because you went to college" response from uneducated people

>>11387385
*larger gdp per capita, and ppp

>>11387385
Congrats, your brain wouldn't be able to compete with a kitchen mold.

>>11387389
looks liek it doesn't take anything to trigger the narcissistic arrogance of educated people LOL

>>11383167
>Just a place for conscientious people to get scammed with a government-backed loan policy dictated by corrupt politician back-end deals.

Too sad the US doesn´t have a free higher education system.

>>11387413
>Too sad the US doesn´t have a free higher education system.
it's free if you're smart and competent

>>11387413
the whole fucking world has a free higher education system. it's called the fucking internet LOL

>>11387420
low quality bait

>>11387426
>too stupid/lazy/entitled to self-teach

>>11387427
Yeah of course, anyone can learn python on le epic internet. But it's been almost three decades since the internet has been available for the majority of the public and online education hasn't produced any scientific breakthrough or succesful graduate of any sort.

>>11387397
okay commie, keep jerking your shrimp dick in hoping bernie is elected.

>>11387432
>online education hasn't produced any scientific breakthrough or succesful graduate of any sort.
lol what the fuck does that got to do with educating yourself? it seems having your ego stroked by uni's is what you really value. fuck off

>>11383171
>you've never actually experienced what it's like to be around stupid people. Once you get a job and have to interact with people who never went to college you will understand.
Got an unskilled job a few months back for the first time and holy fuck shit does this hit hard
Most people are fucking morons dude.

>>11383167
>usa

>>11387037
>In fact Bill Gates handed CEO position to his classmate Steve Balmer who scored higher than him in Putnam exam and graduated magna cum laude from Harvard

That is correct, and then Steve Blamer almost ran Microsoft into the ground. Microsoft didn't start to recover until after Balmer left.

>>11387532
lol

>>11387476
Yeah, if you're never had that
>jesus, these people are allowed to vote?
moment, you don't understand that there's still a huge gap between even the dumbest, least motivated college grad and the average person with only a high school education.

>>11387037
>Or maybe you think you can build a startup from self studying?
Extremely easy (see musk), but you can't get funding without other means (VCs and angels won't even look at you, so you have to do like musk and cheat other people into giving you free money and kick you out for being incompetent).

>>11387037
>People who couldn't get into universities

Literally anyone of slightly below average intelligence or above can get into and succeed in a university these days. Admissions standards for some programs have average grades of around 70% or lower. This includes STEM programs if you are willing to go to a smaller, newer university. There's also credit transfers between community colleges and universities now, so you can do a 5 year degree by getting most of your credits in much easier classes. The real defining difference between people who don't go to university and people who do is their interests. People who don't go tend to just not give a shit about academics and are content working in construction or something. Some of them are dumber than university students, but that gap is closing as admissions standards become more relaxed and the advantages of a college degree decline such that the average person doing a cost-benefit analysis realizes that it's better financially to drop out and be king of the retards than to be a mediocre university graduate.

Moderately intelligent people these days who recognize that they lack either the ability or interest necessary to ascend to the top of a corporate ladder or dominate in some engineering field are realizing that they should go into a high paying trade. A business savvy tradesman who knows where the money is in his field and can be self-employed to reap the benefits of a favourable tax system will be better off financially than 70% of university graduates. That top 30% of graduates might out-earn them, but only after completing some sort of graduate school and working their asses off for years before seeing any real returns. Think doctors or lawyers.

The only field that requires a university degree that a slightly above average intelligence person should consider getting into is computer science, and only if you're american since CS grads receive inferior compensation everywhere else.

>>11387635
>The real defining difference between people who don't go to university and people who do is their interests.
No, the difference is exactly as you alluded: insane levels of stupidity vs standard levels of stupidity.

>>11387259
>the bottom 20% of americans are wealthier than the average european

>>11383167
USA is slowly but surely going down in IQ average, it will turn more into a 3rd world shit hole all thanks to cheaping out in the education department.
It's the number one thing you can't skip, a country with retards will eventually turn into a shithole

>>11387654
Fair enough. What I'm trying to illustrate is that there is a gradient of intelligence where everyone below a certain point shouldn't and can't do university, and everyone above a certain point can and should, but there is an area in the middle of the gradient where people can but shouldn't. Basically it boils down to the (modified) old wisdom "it's better to be a big fish in a small pond than a big fish in an even bigger pond with bigger fish"

>>11383167
Were they ever? I feel like half the profs got a chip on their shoulder or just make you memorize a bunch of garbage to pass so they can feel validated.

>>11383167
Universities are tax-deductible hedge funds for the wealthy.

>>11387788
>all thanks to cheaping out in the education department

This is not only the fault of the education system. The second and more important reason is fact that nobody can simply overcome certain genetic barriers despite the best education.

>>11387847

>>11387687
The US will do what it's historically done, just import immigrants to do everything.

>>11387037
>Bill Gates handed CEO position to his classmate Steve Balmer

>>11384731
As a Eurofag who's traveled to the US, I felt sickened by the amount of advertisements, billboard signs and corporate logos that are plastered around everywhere. I even saw some in people's backyards for fucks sake. I'm guessing the house owners got paid for them though.

>>11387187
He was insane but he invented electricity which no one else could do, not even you so shut up fag

>>11388951
>he invented electricity
Get out.

>>11388934
stock drop was because of court ruling microsoft a monopoly, not because of Steve Ballmer

hurr durr

>>11384731
So what was reality vs expectation of Europe?

>>11389452
>expectations
Heavily armed guards and terrorists everywhere, explosions all the time, practically a warzone. Impossible to make money but at least the nanny state has your back - if you're a terrorist. Nignogs and allahu ackbahs have taken over and whites don't exist anymore.

>reality
Heavily armed guards, but heavy violence is mostly predictable (i.e. it happens in ghettos where the light doesn't shine - if you get my meaning) and rare. Outside london and a few other places, very white. Not as high variation in salary range means no chance to make millions a year as a skilled non-C-level (unlike in the US), but also won't be making far below living wages despite having a PhD. Nanny state really is helpful but you usually get what you pay for (some exceptions) in taxes. Prevailing paradigm is: work for the betterment of society and your country will take care of you in old age, as opposed to US's work for the betterment of yourself and your family because your country only exists to rob from you.

>>11389993
That's interesting
Especially the delusion in the expectations, probably commonly held on the chans. I digress my pipe dream is currently to join the upper class of white people here though. They live away from the stress in concentrated bundles, but politically.. yeah they're naive. Some areas aren't white at all, for example if I check out a McDonalds in some cheap area.

>>11383167
>Apollo: Houston we have a problem.
>/pol/ radio pirate: Turn right.
>Apollo: I haven't told you what the problem is.
>/pol/ radio pirate: Trust my telemetry, and just do it.
>Apollo: Get the fuck off this channel, asswipe.

>>11383167
You' re not wrong but it's the best we have.

>>11383445
> citation needed

>>11383257
>mongoloids
more like negroids, most schools in america have become like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BsRw8wFjyI

>>11384819
>>11386551
>>11386554
>>11386979
massa gonna love y'all

>>11384427
>highest murder rate in the west
Central America: Hold my beer

>>11383171
The biggest NPCs I've ever met have been college grads. The most narcissistic people, too. On the other hand, the most brilliant people I've met have also been college grads. Post secondary education doesn't really guarantee anything, so the output is a complete crapshoot. Dumb people with a degree sure do feel entitled and intelligent though.

>>11383167
>I just failed Uni because I am too SMART
Sure thing brainlet

>>11383171
This

>>11383190
That's ok because IQ tests don't say much about your ability to succeed in university, undergraduate or graduate, it's more about whether you have the self control to sit in a seat and study / finish assignments.

>>11388948
I used to be a committed Libertarian but I'm now having second thoughts - having de facto liberty but de jure not having liberty, what's the difference between that and outright tyranny?

The United States is not a democracy, it's a tyranny of big corporations that spend $100million + every year. How is that for 'life, liberty and pursuit of happiness?'

>>11391508
Latin America cannot be considered fully WESTERN , because its consisted of banana republics without any major importance to the rest of the world full of drugs, corruption and lawlessness like Detroit on scale of whole countries.

>>11392709
>cannot be considered fully WESTERN
>which means it's partially western
>which means it's western
So I'm still right

>>11383359
>>11383376
Let's annex Alaska, BC, Alberta, Idaho, and Washington east of the Cascades. We'll have a gold standard and decentralize the urban areas.

>>11391814
>The biggest NPCs I've ever met have been college grads

Yes, these are the 100-120 IQ midwits who the OP is complaining about.

>>11392723
>it's partially western

Are you sure that its rather not jungle/desert wastelands with half of population directly imported from Africa than part of the West ?

>>11392766
They were Spanish/Portuguese colonies which are western so yes.