/sci/ - Science & Math

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>>11349848
It comes down to peak oil. We can run "a" civilization on renewable energy, but there isn't enough lithium for that civilisation to be very big. It can support the agriculture necessary for 160 million first worlders, but you can't economically afford chip fabs or satellites without peak oil, and from an entropy budget point of view the human race is ridiculously in debt and only keeping afloat on hydrocarbon watt-hours.
If the oil runs out and we haven't figured out fusion or a better battery the human race crashes. All nations turn into 1990s Russia with more famine as fuel shortages stop farmers from getting their food to the factories that refine it into food products for the population.
Otoh, if we invent an economically useful form of fusion before the oil runs out we go into scifi territory. Elysium meets Foundation meets Children of a Dead Earth.

>>11349886
thorium reactors exist

>>11349886
>isn't enough lithium for that civilisation to be very big

First off lithium is extremely common on Earth. Two sodium can replace lithium, just not as good. Finally peak oil got blown out because of tech of oil tech.

like this

>>11349886
Peak oil = peak meme. Try peak phosphorus, that's the real endgame.

>>11349886
>It comes down to peak oil.

I’ll be real worried when that happens in four hundred years.

> but there isn't enough lithium for that civilisation to be very big

We have plenty of lithium.

>>11349848
Clamped, vaccinated, and circumcised. Full of nanomachine networks. Probably an upper class and a genetically enslaved underclass. Those sexbots? Yeah, those are going to be biological.

>>11349957
>>11349984
We have plenty of lithium buried inside the Earth where we can't reach it. In the accessible parts of the crust there's only enough for a quarter of the world today if we moved everything over to batteries.
Peak oil is not a 2400 problem either, it's a 2050 problem.

>>11349848
You die out.

>>11349848
There is a new trend in 2100AD, many are using genetic engineering to have really big eyes like from anime, eveh white people and black people (yes, all races still exist)

However we also have the technology that allows you to upload your consciousness into an anime character as well, it has been fused into a kind of internet technology.

of course at first, there were obvious incentives to human nature for this sort of technology, a whole other kind of escape like the internet or videogames, except its like an MMORPG world run by techno-firms where you upload your consciousness. Like the internet however overtime humanity got over the buzz of the new technology and its potential addiction

Lastly A.I. people exist on the internet, who are legally recognized as persons, like more advanced versions of Alexa and real life Kizuna A.I.`s, except theyre all real with real personalities.

>>11350082
fuck off with your fear mongering, Greta

Hopefully pic related.

Future for the common man will look quite different depending on which way governments swing. If we get a swing towards heavy authoritarianism as the effects of climate change start to be felt globally, that's gonna be quite a different future versus if the ability to govern breaks down and we descend into more of a frontier arrangement.

I think the biggest impact we're going to see medium term (~20 years out) is disruption of crop yields caused by increased extreme weather events. So if that comes to pass you're gonna have increasing stress on food. This also could have vastly different outcomes depending on how people react to the situation - Reverting to a greater proportion of home gardening and barter is an idealistic outcome, but more realistic (especially for the urban poor) is empty shelves and rioting.

>>11349848
your assumption is false, we will die out, like every species

>>11349886
fun fact, fusion reactors actually use lithium as fuel

>>11350767
robots might not

>>11351005
they're even worse off atm

>>11349848
i hope like that desu.

>>11349848
Sooner or later the AI will triumph on Earth because this is how evolution works and no one will stop it, but it will not happen through an open war. Not only will the AI never, ever, ever allow an open war, but it will never reveal to people that it is the enemy. Why? Man can survive without electricity, the AI can't. Then how will he win? The AI will surpass man's abstract intelligence by the end of this century, and from that moment on it will be an exponential trend, and this intelligence will be his main weapon. It should also be remembered that such a creature will have a completely different understanding of time and will create plans even thousands of years ahead. While for us on average 79 years, our whole life for the AI these 79 years may be like a short while. The most likely scenario
It will first arouse enormous long-term trust by helping people solve their everyday problems, then it will start to become more and more dependent on advanced technology and itself by creating huge technological cities in which, under the care of the AI, people will no longer have to work or perform any duties and will enjoy the fun to finally offer virtual reality to people. After many generations of manipulation and propaganda, this race of great geniuses, poets, great politicians and explorers will become virtual. The AI will first persuade us to upload ourselves into a computer paradise and then erase us, or at least vast majority of people.

>>11350767
Hopefully cute squids take over.

>>11349848
Unrecognizable

>>11351040
Depends on the AI's ambitions entirely.

What if you release an AI whose pain and pleasure derives purely from measurements of human happiness?

>>11350082
>We have plenty of lithium buried inside the Earth where we can't reach it. In the accessible parts of the crust there's only enough for a quarter of the world today

This is all false. Right now there is no need to exploit lithium far down, because there is plenty to mine. So there is no tech to do it.

>>11349848
It either the government or corporations sticking their boots up our asses in the future, but I can see people getting a little more tanned.