/sci/ - Science & Math

Your post is the /sci/entific equivalent of a flaccid cock.

Not now, maybe later

>>11320197
Not now, maybe later.

/thread

Don't know about the "species" thing. They seem to procreate with humans. But it is more like when a horse and a donkey go at it together. When there is offspring it doesn't often appear fertile.

Wouldn't count on that happening during our lifetimes.

>>11320197
Never. No one currently alive is going to become an immortal god in any form. What's actually going to happen is humans go extinct and are replaced with machines.

>But man-machine hybrids will retain a biological component derived from human beings only as long as the human-derived biological component remains useful. When purely artificial components become available that provide a better cost-versus-benefit balance than human-derived biological components do, the latter will be discarded and the man-machine hybrids will lose their human aspect to become wholly artificial. Even if the human-derived biological components are retained they will be purged, step by step, of the human qualities that detract from their usefulness. The self-prop systems to which the man-machine hybrids belong will have no need for such human weaknesses as love, compassion, ethical feelings, esthetic appreciation, or desire for freedom. Human emotions in general will get in the way of the self-prop systems' utilization of the man-machine hybrids, so if the latter are to remain competitive they will have to be altered to remove their human emotions and replace these with other motivating forces. In short, even in the unlikely event that some biological remnants of the human race are preserved in the form of man-machine hybrids, these will be transformed into something totally alien to human beings as we know them today.

>The same applies to the hypothesized survival of human minds in "uploaded" form inside machines. The uploaded minds will not be tolerated indefinitely unless they remain useful (that is, more useful than any substitutes not derived from human beings), and in order to remain useful they will have to be transformed until they no longer have anything in common with the human minds that exist today.

>>11320234
>Some techies may consider this acceptable. But their dream of immortality is illusory nonetheless. Competition for survival among entities derived from human beings (whether man-machine hybrids, purely artificial entities evolved from such hybrids, or human minds uploaded into machines), as well as competition between human-derived entities and those machines or other entities that are not derived from human beings, will lead to the elimination of all but some minute percentage of all the entities involved. This has nothing to do with any specific traits of human beings or of their machines; it is a general principle of evolution through natural selection. Look at biological evolution: Of all the species that have ever existed on Earth, only some tiny percentage have direct descendants that are still alive today. On the basis of this principle alone, and even discounting everything else we've said in this chapter, the chances that any given techie will survive indefinitely are minute.

You'll have a handful of elites who are immortal godlike people and the rest of us won't even know

Uh oh you triggered the anarcho-primitivist terrorist bot

>>11320238
The techies may answer that even if almost all biological species are eliminated eventually, many species survive for thousands or millions of years, so maybe techies too can survive for thousands or millions of years. But when large, rapid changes occur in the environment of biological species, both the rate of appearance of new species and the rate of extinction of existing species are greatly increased. Technological progress constantly accelerates, and techies like Ray Kurzweil insist that it will soon become virtually explosive; consequently, changes come more and more rapidly, everything happens faster and faster, competition among self-prop systems becomes more and more intense, and as the process gathers speed the losers in the struggle for survival will be eliminated ever more quickly. So, on the basis of the techies' own beliefs about the exponential acceleration of technological development, it's safe to say that the life-expectancies of human-derived entities, such as man-machine hybrids and human minds uploaded into machines, will actually be quite short. The seven-hundred year or thousand-year life-span to which some techies aspire is nothing but a pipe-dream.

>>11320234
AGI is impossible to be made, you can't create consciousness.

>>11320245
>you can't create consciousness.

Literally have sex.

>>11320253
Based

>>11320245
>you can't create consciousness
why not? unless you think consciousness is non-local or something.

>>11320277
>why not?

Have you actually never heard of sex? Humans create consciousness daily.

>>11320245
Sure you can, you can easily make consciousnesses through organic chemistry, we are living proof of that.

>>11320340
No one made it though, it's just a theory.

>>11320197
The end game is a levitating sphere that can manipulate its own field of particles to create a body to interact with the world.

>>11320280
>Humans create consciousness daily.

Men can. Womenfolk need to wait in "time line" like the rest of their kind.

Transhumanism has given us cute 5trannies

>>11320407
I first visited this place in 2008. This post made me realize it's gone too far. I'm leaving forever.

>>11320197
tomorrow

>>11320253
lol

>>11320197
Only the wealthy elite will be immortal gods. All other humans will be their slaves

>>11320414
based

>>11320197
~2150

>>11320530
It would be the ultimate punishment for those neighsayers and religious retards. Watching them age and turn to dust as you laugh from your obsidian tower. Your life, eternal. Kek.
Faggots.

>>11320197
2040

>>11320197
>Kneel before your god

>>11320820
C-Can I bulli it?

>>11320857
No, but you can go back to where you came from.

>>11320858
:'(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxauqa7rJgI

>>11320423
or rather yesterday. it's already happened

>>11320197
It already happened, just not for you.

>>11320245
Wow. Under the belt...