/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11313188
If u r speaking in physically terms then by definition mathematics prohibits this by time hows the wether in dandyland btw

Did they count the number of publications for that? In which case: lol.
So what kind of engineering products do they have to show which are so superior? They couldn't even copy Tesla correctly.

>>11313192
For the hundred millionth time stop thinking about wood

>>11313188
If you hadn't aloud your emotions to influence how you made this thread, it may have been on-topic.

As it stands, you obviously intended for this thread to be >>>/po/ in nature, and to serve as bait.

Please take it to the appropriate board. You'll get more (you)s there anyways.

>>11313192
Ever heard of BYD? Have you even been to China? BYD is the biggest electric car company on the planet.

>>11313207
Holy shit. No. Wow. OK. I'll shut my mouth.
It's just their side business and still they're the biggest. I need to catch up.

>>11313188
>t. chang

>>11313188
>China copy and steal everything from USA and Europe in term of Tech and Science
>China catches up with the rest
what are you going to tell me next ?

>National Science Board Says America Should Spend More Money On National Science

so is anyone else here retarded or just op

>>11313207

and? It's just electric cars. For a time the mighty USSR built more cars for year, and more fuel efficient cars at that, then the US. This did not help solve the USSR's problems. The same applies to rockets, nuclear weapons, pork, etc. Just having a lot of something does not itself constitute an investment in it. More volume made today just means less volume tomorrow. America's auto industry is greatly suffering from this problem because they sold so many cars new production doesn't make a lot of money.

The NSB's point wasn't so much that the US's research had shrunk insomuch as China's has grown, like Japan and Germay did postwar and like the USSR did during the interwar period. Even if the US's did shrink, it doesn't matter much when ultimately the quality science that results in new things ("innovation") happens here because we have academic freedom and academics are not bound to state employment or state directives as they are in Europe or Asia. This is a known problem in countries like Germany, Russia, China and Japan but they can't change things because it would upset the social contracts there. This is where it evolves into a philosophical question, moreso than a money dump truck question.

>>11313188
I hope China successes with its BGI IQ project so all anti-racists like OP can be murdered and put in the grave were they belong. Anyone who ever supported immigration should be stripped of all social ranking and be permanently marked on the social credit system. Anti-racist pseudoscience has no place on Earth anymore.

>>11313245
Not sure why you're ranting - the question was:
>So what kind of engineering products do they have to show which are so superior?

And I answered: BYD. And BYD is more than just in China btw

Contact me when china lands a first stage booster. So far they only know how to drop them on their own people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_EnrVf9u8s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbFOS29vAeQ

>>11313289
Considering that China still has hundreds of millions of people living in poverty, it won't be that long. Give it 5 years.

>>11313192
US has a replication crisis with science paper. 50% of the papers are complete junk.

>>11313207
>BYD is the biggest electric car company on the planet.
Tesla overtook it this year.

>>11313561
Time to buy the tesla stock. It's too big to fail now isn't it?
The US tax dollars will save it like they bail out Boeing and wall street

>>11313564
Tesla is a private company. Boeing is a public-private company. Wallstreet wants to kill Tesla. There's dozens of FUD article/day from all major media companies.

>>11313560
China has an even bigger replication crisis.

>>11313570
Yeah, but we all knew that. US's biggest moat was "our numbers are real" but that mantra has been falling apart.

>>11313188
China isn’t “owning” anyone. It’s just a shitty police state disliked by everyone but terrorists like Pakis.

>>11313583
China owns 50% support of the UN.

>>11313589
>It’s just a shitty police state disliked by everyone but terrorists like Pakis.

You’re not contradicting me.

>>11313591
As long as UN exists, China has 50% of the world's support for whatever they do. In terms of numbers, if you ask random people, they will say China is right more often than not. In terms of religious doctrine, China will win out. In terms of secular morals, China will win out. China simply has more people on their side of the aisle to counter anything negative.

Do you not see the problem?

>>11313589
>All the nations with shitty humans rights record support the biggest shittiest human rights abuser
Honestly who made this planet like this

>>11313595
> As long as UN exists, China has 50% of the world's support for whatever they do

Government support isn’t population support, nor does government support and population support equate to actual power. Oh no, third world hellholes support China! How will America recover?!

> In terms of numbers, if you ask random people, they will say China is right more often than not

Not demonstrated.

>In terms of religious doctrine, China will win out.

Not demonstrated.

> In terms of secular morals, China will win out.

Not demonstrated.

> China simply has more people on their side of the aisle to counter anything negative.

Population=/=power
Populations=/=influence
Population=/=anything that isn’t population

>>11313601
>Honestly who made this planet like this

Europe and America unironically.

>>11313601
but UN is elite family controlled and controlled by Masonry Lodges, I think they just want a scam an excuse to make China run corporations globally because theyre a one party dictatorship and well duh of course youll get things done without having to put up with peoples shit what could be more desirable to them

>>11313188
>China is owning the USA
Wow I wonder why.

China
>Lied about their population
>Lied about their GDP
>Lied about their IQ

The only thing that can realistically save them now is their social credit system; which I personally think is a tremendous idea.

>>11313279
>Not sure why you're ranting
BECAUSE THIS IS 4CHAN YOU STUPID FUCK

>>11313188
well well this is a rather welcome change, it's been a while since we've had a proper arms race to speed up technological advancements

>>11313617
this
lol

>>11313645
ridiculous. Asian women do not smoke, most definitely not trad ones

>>11313669
this nigga. i had to take another look. i thought she was drinking tea liek a good little nip but no, she needs dat western self-destruction shit because "oh woe is ME and MY life and MY hardships!"
heres another lol

>>11313681
Smoking is good.

>>11313204
I'd you're going to redirect leave for /po/ out of this. The last thing that poor board needs us more newfags who shit up the place. So many good threads get lost because newfags.

>>11313188
China hasn't even once made a single scientific contribution in the past several hundred years.

>>11313681
thanks fampai, knew it had to be an honest overlook coming from you

>>11313589
Imagine how low IQ the person who made that pic must be.
Relative timestamps are truly the mark of the subhuman.

>>11314086
Face it. China is loved by everyone

>>11314394
Lol'd hard. Only the inbred like china. That's because the bugpeople of china remind them of themselves.

If you believe this you're retarded. All china can do is steal from MIT and CIT.

Contrary to that other thread, investing in science works. Just not here.

What the fuck is wrong with us?

>>11314427
We invest a massive amount in science you nitwit. Just not in social science or bunk climate science.

>>11313617
so enriching so beautiful so diverse and inspiring and strong

>>11314444
Yes. We do. With no results.

>>11314508
we're at the limit of tangible physics. it takes time. it's not 1920 anymore.

>>11314527
That's the whole point. We in the US are seeing no results, but other countries are.

>>11313589
>shitholes supporting china politically means chinas policy is approved

>>11314540
Name one country. Protip: you can't, because USA still has by FAR the highest throughput (china has the lowest).

>>11313188
Thank god, this country of morons has to die and Leafland to go with it. Anglos are the worst thing that ever happened to mankind

>>11314401
>Only the inbred like china. That's because the bugpeople of china remind them of themselves.

>>11314555
Yes

>>11313604
>Oh no, third world hellholes support China! How will America recover?!

>>11313279

>>So what kind of engineering products do they have to show which are so superior?

In which case America has the V-22, F-35, and NIF among others. China has been unable to copy all three with 100% functionality. China did build a bigger hydro dam than us, but they also have dust storms while we got ours under control.

>>11313595
>>11313589

>>So what kind of engineering products do they have to show which are so superior?

China only has 40% of the UN's support, themselves and Russia, since the UNSC is what actually matters. It's here their lone 20% stake is enough to stall things because they can veto anything. Blame Nixon.

As for religious doctrine, secular morals, and population all of that China hasn't won on because they can't just keep replacing everyone with unlimited growth. This is the exact sort of problem Japan had in the late 80s.

>>11314667
>How will America recover?!
It won't desu. If all the third world hellholes start ignoring america then America won't be a world power anymore.

>>11314731
Please layout the sequence of events holy fuck you better delivar

>>11313245
>the mighty USSR built more cars for year, and more fuel efficient cars at that, then the US.
WTF is this? Some soviet statistics? American families had several cars per family. Soviet families were several families per car.
There's a soviet joke about it:
A soviet delegation visits Ford factory.
"Whose factory is that?" - "That's Ford's factory"
"Whose cars are those?" - "They belong to the workers of the factory"
American delegation visits soviet car factory.
"Whose factory is that?" - "That factory belongs to the workers"
"Whose car is that?" - "That's the car of the director of the factory"

How fucked are we if this continues?

Friend of mine did his master's in Australia. When they had group meetings, Chinese colleagues were forbidden to participate.

Reason is that they would take any slight advance, write a paper over night and have it published shortly after from their circlejerking societies at home.

It happened, it happens, it will continue to happen.

>>11314880
Here we rather do the opposite: chinese prospective students are almost always turned away for similar reasons.

>>11314857
Competition is good for the world. Wages would improve in america as they compete to keep their talent from migrating to china

>>11314857
I'd be more worried about China collapsing on itself. Their government is not really good at planning things, and eventually the way they run everything will bite them in the ass. Or they'll have developed brainwashing tech so powerful that we won't really be "fucked", since we won't care that we've been fucked.

>>11314712
France wants closer ties with China/Russia.

>>11314945
This. Sadly it's not happening. Rather all the chinks who know even the slightest thing move to the US.

>>11315030
For now. They're going to move back the moment china becomes more lucrative. And its happening.
I was in australia last year and the chinese were telling me that to find a job in Shanghai you need an overseas degree and overseas experience.
8/10 chinese return to China when they're done in Australia.

>>11315051
>8/10 chinese return to China when they're done in Australia.
It's not because going back to china is lucrative, rather it's a common pattern amongst all 3rd world dwellers, including indians, middle easterners, and most south americans. It's because back home is infinitely cheaper and the people are usually much better than the cold and backstabbing murrican't (except in the case of china, where the fact everything is played through shows of power and influence, they can rely on significant family dominance for similar benefits). Thus, they collect money in the states for as long as they can bear it, then go back to a country that has higher life standards for those who aren't poor, escaping the rat race.

>>11313188
>Whilst Americans stuff themselves with Burgers and Fries
But China too has an obesity crisis!

>>11313289
>Contact me when china lands a first stage booster

Last year.

>>11315062
Yes that's called lucrative.

>>11315555
Nice numerals. And sure, if that's what you mean by lucrative then I agree.

>>11315051
>8/10 chinese return to China when they're done in Australia
And hopefully they return full of appreciation for greater freedom.