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11201330 No.11201330 [Reply] [Original]

>He wasted his summers in unpaid internships to get experience
>he lies to himself saying that he is "passionate" about his science

>> No.11201367
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>>11201330
>unpaid internships

>be me
>CS undergrad
>any codemonkey job I want
>already have paid intership lined up
>losing passion for codemonkeying
>wish I pursued Math undergrad

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>he lives where unpaid work is legal
>he doesn't think this is something worth fighting agaisnt

>> No.11203101

>>11201367
>be math undergrad
>finish major reqs early
>start taking CS classes
>any median-income codemonkey job I want
>codemonkeying has always been my passion
>that comfy feel of solving brainlet-tier cs problems, knowing that instead of pretending to be dumber than I am, but still sharper than anyone I work with, I could be stressing and struggling over actual hard math problems that require more than just a modicum of thought, and getting paid a third of what I make
>get off work and have plenty of energy and money to pursue whatever interests I desire at a leisurely pace.

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>paid summer research fellowship
Feels good, brahs.

>> No.11203108

>>11201330
but i got paid $6000 for my summer internship
>>11201376
if you're working for free it's either because your stupid or worthless, either way you get what you got

>> No.11203135

>>11201330
All of science is built with layers upon layers of cucks.

Tenured professors are cucked from earning just half of what they'd earn on industry at their seniority but they are in turn cucking untenured professors who are cucked from earning 40% of what they'd earn on industry at their seniority but they are in turn cucking postdocs who are in turn cucked by earning only 30% of what they'd earn on industry at their seniority but they are in turn cucking grad students who get cucked from earning only 20% of what they'd earn on industry.

How do these people even manage? Like, I'm sure they do well in their little circles where everyone is miserable and poor but how do they cope knowing that literally everyone they know outearns them by huge factors and specially grad students who know that the retarded kid in school who is working now at Mc Donald's for minimum wage is basically earning more than them after 4 years of undergrad and up to 4 years of post-grad education.

>> No.11203139

>>11203135
Social prestige and economic specialization/niches assembled around unique skillsets and personality suites, brainlet.

>> No.11203151

>>11203139
>s and personality
Is being poor a personality now? God damn you people must have PhD's in coping too.

>> No.11203160

Made 17k last summer in a medium COL city being a code monkey. (36 hr)

>> No.11203173

>>11203101
That's pretty beta, considering there are massive amounts of non-brainlet CS problems you could be solving AND making good money.
All that big boy ego towards undergrad math and you can't even tackle constructing lossless expanders? For shame.

>> No.11203178

>>11203173
>That’s pretty
>For shame
lol brainlet

>> No.11203185

>>11203151
>work for industry
>get cucked out of your patent
>work for university with agreement to control all of your intellectual property in exchange for improving their research program
>become millionaire
industry is top goy

>> No.11203189

>>11203178
Exactly what issue do you take with those statements? It's pretty easy to see that doing muh big boy academic major without actually committing to muh big boy academic activities is an empty brag that doesn't actually make you any more valuable than your average codemonkey. If you want to stroke yourself off, solve harder problems.

>> No.11203195

>>11203189
>can’t detect differences in diction and emotional tone between posts
sad!

>> No.11203196

>>11203135
>money means my peepee big
leave undergrad lol. Nobody on tenure track is starving

>> No.11203201

>>11203196
if you can't afford a million dollar car and thirty million dollar house you are poor deal with it fag

>> No.11203203

>>11203195
No, exactly what was your point? It's clear that you're ignoring the point and derailing, but exactly what is it that you're trying to call attention to?

>> No.11203204

>>11203173
>could be working my ass off to solve difficult math/cs problems and burn out in a year
>instead I can come in to work stoned, drink on the job, still manage to be more productive than my coworkers, take a 2 hour lunch break (eat for half an hour then rent a cheap hotel for an hour to fuck a hooker) and make just as much money
>come home to work on my interests which may or may not involve serious intelligence
You tell me what the real high-iq play is here.

>> No.11203211

>>11203204
>>could be working my ass off to solve difficult math/cs problems and burn out in a year
why would you burn out in a year? It's not really bad - I mean, yeah, you're spending effort, but they're problems that are fun to solve and have implications in and out of the field
>>instead I can come in to work stoned, drink on the job, still manage to be more productive than my coworkers, take a 2 hour lunch break (eat for half an hour then rent a cheap hotel for an hour to fuck a hooker) and make just as much money
if that's what you value, then have fun with that. All I'm saying is this "muh math major" is meaningless and you've sort of already morphed into the codemonkey you were originally mocking. It's fine not to do grad - but settling for less but being self congratulatory sounds like textbook cope
>>come home to work on my interests which may or may not involve serious intelligence
you're not alone in this. If you think your scribblings and self study will actually impact research though with muh autodidactism, then you're probably in over your head

>> No.11203214

>>11203203
Not everything has a purpose anon.

>> No.11203223

>>11203211
>impying my interests have anything to do with impacting research
My interests are concrete and money-oriented. That being said, they aren't some undergrad walk in the park. Along the way of creating my vision, there's a high chance I will end up solving some esoteric problem. But I'm not some nerd that wants to spend all day on the whiteboard. There's no cope to anything I do. I like being faded and I like the feel of the pussy. I make the money and do what I want. I don't need school to make me smart.

>> No.11203231

>>11203214
>lol brainlet
clearly this thing did have a purpose

>> No.11203258

>>11203185
This is some top tier delusion. Also finding some huge profitable patent is not a reliable strategy for success.

>>11203196
Money does mean my peepee big. Maybe not for you, but for your girlfriend it very much does. Also, it is not about starving, it is about maximizing earning potential. Seriously, didn't you retards learn optimization in like calc 1? You are supposed to maximize, not minimize. If you can get a higher compensation for the same knowledge, you are supposed to take that route. That's some quick maths for you.

>> No.11203261

>>11203223
>Along the way of creating my vision, there's a high chance I will end up solving some esoteric problem
>But I'm not some nerd that wants to spend all day on the whiteboard
Ah, so you have a sort of pipe-dream of being someone like Simons, but you don't want to put in the legwork into doing it. Gotcha. I respect ambitions outside of academia but this sounds like you have delusions
>I make the money and do what I want.\
most of us do this, too, despite you thinking otherwise. there isn't the have and the have nots - it isn't that simple
>I don't need school to make me smart.
earlier you were appealing to muh math major and muh any starting salary in the median range I want. So yes, you very clearly do use school to signal your smarts, but like to act as if you don't. I don't think school is what makes people smart - their work is what makes them smart - but the way you responded clearly demonstrated that you do put stock into having it easy "despite doing the math major"
I say this as someone who double majored in both - it's not much of an accomplishment

>> No.11203268

>>11201330
thank god I study math and NOT science
>>11201367
>>11203101
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.05698.pdf
>>11203135
>100k
>knowing actually shit in your study
>research
>doing what you love
>cushy ass job and hours
>>11203151
>be goy and work for jew
>be jew and work with jew
see yah later goyim
>>11203173
>All that big boy ego towards undergrad math and you can't even tackle constructing lossless expanders? For shame.
this. lol undergrads are so fucking retarded.
there is no undergrad degree that is actually useful
>>11203201
>compensating this hard
just because the girls in high school made fun of you for having a small dick, and your teacher told you that you'd never made it in a grad program doesn't mean you need to be such a spiteful bitch.
money is a meaningless material.
>>11203204
degenerate
>>11203223
>being this incoherent and delusional
take your pills, anon.
>>11203258
>If you can get a higher compensation for the same knowledge
>being this retarded
>optimizing mathematical potential and developing the feild
>not even participating in the field
yes, very optimized
so this is the power of engineer cringe

>> No.11203282

>>11203258
>Maybe not for you, but for your girlfriend it very much does
people who unironically go down this way of thinking are seriously immature. Nobody's broke here in their actual career - you do know academics make decent money for having to do nothing but write down new ideas and teach a class per semester, right? If you really think a woman is going to dump you for salary, then you're probably hanging around incredibly immature women
>it is about maximizing earning potential
to what end? I get all expense paid trips like every 5-6 weeks, I make enough to comfortably fund all my hobbies (including things like diving), have a great schedule, etc., but oh no I'm not making 300k.
> If you can get a higher compensation for the same knowledge, you are supposed to take that route. That's some quick maths for you.
if you want to talk about maximization, there are clear extraneous factors one can optimize for. I optimized for quality of life and career according to my own interests, and that isn't parameterized by money alone.

>> No.11203285

>>11203268
>so this is the power of engineer cringe
I have a BSc in pure mathematics. You can advance the field and not be subject that is essentially economic rape by universities. Geniuses like Terence Tao are already on special brackets earning 500k. If you went to Tao's face and told him "M-mr. Tao we are going to need you to be a good goy and work for 80k like your peers" he would spit in your face and immediately fuck off to McKinsey or some shit. That's an uncucked academic for you, but if you wanted me to name you 3 mathematicians who regularly publish and work in industry I could do it on the spot. It is all about not being cucked in the brain. If you have the cuck genes, though, then it is already too late for you. Some men are truly meant to serve, not rule. Don't worry, I will gladly fuck your girlfriends for the greater good.

>> No.11203286

>>11203282
>people who unironically go down this way of thinking are seriously immature. Nobody's broke here in their actual career - you do know academics make decent money for having to do nothing but write down new ideas and teach a class per semester, right? If you really think a woman is going to dump you for salary, then you're probably hanging around incredibly immature women
have you ever been to america
unironically 90% of american women would dump someone for a 10% increase in money
americans aren't human they're mindless beasts

>> No.11203290

>>11203285
tao has a PhD though
you'll never do anything worthwhile in mathematics without one

>> No.11203305

>>11203282
>people who unironically go down this way of thinking are seriously immature. Nobody's broke here in their actual career

I am going to tell you who is broke: grad students and postdocs. Those are 4-10 years of your life down the drain, earning peanuts when you are the pinnacle of one direction of human knowledge. If you make it to an actual professor then congrats but, as I said, someone with your equivalent seniority in the industry would be making way more. You will not be poor, but you'll be relatively poor.

>to what end? I get all expense paid trips like every 5-6 weeks, I make enough to comfortably fund all my hobbies (including things like diving), have a great schedule, etc., but oh no I'm not making 300k.
All of this stuff is incredibly fishy. So many details being left out, is meaningless.

>if you want to talk about maximization, there are clear extraneous factors one can optimize for. I optimized for quality of life and career according to my own interests, and that isn't parameterized by money alone.
I believe there is no quality of life in knowing you earn less than people with comparable qualifications while simultaneously enabling the most inefficient and destructive bureaucracies in the world second only to governments.

>>11203290
I have not outright dismissed the idea of a Ph.D. It is just that through my experience being close to many of my professors and hearing them tell me stories about what it actually means to be an academic I realized that it was not for me. Maybe after the current bureaucracies burn down in flames and a more meritocratic system based on intellectualism and not on publish-or-perish bureaucracies appears I will consider getting my Ph.D.

>> No.11203312

>>11203305
>It is just that through my experience being close to many of my professors and hearing them tell me stories about what it actually means to be an academic I realized that it was not for me
protip, your university is not every university in the entire world bro

>> No.11203317

>>11203312
Right, publish or perish is only a thing at the university I went to. Damn, why didn't I think of it. Gonna get my Ph.D. right now, you must be a genius! Publish or perish is not a thing outside my university!

>> No.11203319

>>11203317
What's so hard about publishing every 2 years? You lazy fuck.

>> No.11203321

>>11203319
Ok so you are in your first semester of undergrad, got it.

>> No.11203323

>>11203321
I'm a biologist :^)

>> No.11203326

>>11201330
Mate when I dropped out of a PhD math program and just went to work at an unpretentious tech firm my life improved massively.

Academics really are the worst people in the world

>> No.11203338

>>11203326
don't come back we don't like your kind either

>> No.11203368

>>11203323
That explains a lot. If your small biologist brain can't get it, it is not that publication requirements are bad. What is bad is that # of publications * impact factor is the only metric the retarded bureaucrats running these institutions use. Think about it. Imagine if in my job we were judged only by how many spreadsheets we shat out per year. Imagine if in medicine we were judged only by how many patients we managed to see (regardless of how many died). Imagine if in tech we were judged only by how many lines of code we wrote. Etc.

The lesson here is: retarded bureaucrats who can only count things to judge your merit should NOT be running anything bigger than a fucking Mc Donald's. The fact that your entire system depends on these administrators is beyond retarded and you are retarded for enabling that system.

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Punch in the face soon

>> No.11203379

>>11203285
>undergrad
HOLY SHIT MY FUCKING SIDES
This nigga probably can't do basic arithmetic.
Tao is paid based off his prestige and brilliance. As well as from books, which get favored based off his fame.
dude get over yourself. you're literally so fucking cringe and off putting.
Women desire men, not children that have tantrums when he finds out other people are perfectly happy with their choices. you seem intrinsically miserable, that's not attractive.
I'm still in my program right now, but don't want a million dollar house with insane taxes because it's next to a shitty city. I am from seattle and have seen my city turn to utter shit with the surge of tech fags displacing all the old fags.
I want to live in a nice home, away from the city, a place where I can raise my kids without thinking "shit are they going to get fucking stabbed, robbed, or raped?"
Women like men who are well grounded and confident.
You'd probably know more about women if you didn't just fuck whores of tinder, looking for a meal.
Also I don't own a car, I use mass transit because I don't like attributing to carbon emissions. And it isn't very well optimized to superfluously waste money on an expensive car just because it's expensive. a simple used car that goes from A to B at the speed limit is perfectly fine.
It is possible to have meaningful relationships with people.
try hitting the gym, staying clean, and eating right. It might make you feel better.
Why do you have such an incel out look? like you have money to afford whores, and thus think all women are like tinder thots.
your parents must have really fucked you up, and I feel really bad for you.
I pity you a lot bro, seeing how miserable and pathetic you are. You have my most sincere feels, bro.
I genuinely hope you get better.
>>11203286
yeah this anon >>11203285 is a perfect example fo the fall of the west.
I feel really sorry for the west, since it's my home, despite originally coming from the south

>> No.11203382

>>11203375
Toker, will you punch university administrators in the face soon? Will they get what they FUCKING deserve?

>> No.11203383

>>11203305
>Those are 4-10 years of your life down the drain, earning peanuts when you are the pinnacle of one direction of human knowledge
As a PhD, you're literally paid on stipend to do take up resources in the university and do research - it's a literal apprenticeship. Post-docs do make less money, but in my experience that's max 3 years, and usually 2 if you worked well during your PhD
>All of this stuff is incredibly fishy. So many details being left out, is meaningless.
Did you not know that being an academic is a collaborative effort? In addition to conferences, I fly out to meet people when we've had a good discussion over video chat or need to work together to more deeply solve some problem. My teaching schedule is lax, as are my office hours (one class only). Is there anything else you want me to go into?
>I believe there is no quality of life in knowing you earn less than people with comparable qualifications
because you quantify the value of work / contribution by pay rather than acknowledging that economic factors that don't necessarily coincide with personal/"inherent" value are what set pay. Companies are literally no better than governments as far as practice and bureaucracies go. We all have a hand to play, but it really sounds like this is more an ego problem than a practical one - it is not hard, especially in a field like algorithms where CS professors get paid boatloads of salaried money and royalties, to make bank, even if it's not what you want. It sounds really that it comes down to the fact that you can't accept lower pay despite more work put in. The reality is that you wouldn't be able to contribute to academics without accepting that, as right now it's not what's most economically viable.

>> No.11203392

>>11203383
>suspiciously says nothing about the bureaucracy or publish or perish
There is more substance in what you didn't say than in what you said. I believe my point has been made without words better than I ever could with them.

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Academics are for manchildren that can't handle the real world

There I said it

>> No.11203409

>>11203392
>>suspiciously says nothing about the bureaucracy or publish or perish
I publish like 2-3 papers per year at the least and usually around 4 unless I get really busy. There's a little light under your feet when you start out, but as you get into your first post-doc, that quickly goes out when you see what direction your current career focus takes you. Seeing as the majority of my job is research...exactly what is your point?

>> No.11203415

>>11203368
The only problem I have with the current system is that number of publications shouldn't matter, only impact. 1 extremely high impact paper full of relevant research results is worth much more than 100 shitty papers rushed for muh grants.

>> No.11203421

>>11203368
>Imagine if in medicine we were judged only by how many patients we managed to see (regardless of how many died).
But that's exactly how medicine works...
Hospitals are paid by insurance companies according to how many patients they get money from, the amount of deaths is irrelevant...

>> No.11203425

>>11203382
No, but if the genocide of their people and the loss of their immortal souls down the drain of the string theoretical human centipede is the worst I can give them, then I will settle for that.

>university administrators
This is not an accurate euphemism.

>> No.11203426

>>11203409
I guarantee no one reads ur dumb papers nurd

>> No.11203437

>>11203415
When universities started being less retarded and decided that # of publications didn't cut it that was step in the right direction, unfortunately there was a fucking ditch in that direction too. Regarding impact factors, show me a journal and I'll show you an absolutely shit paper on it. Regardless of impact factor. What a crock of shit.

It's funny because in my line of work the metric is everything. There are times when my job is literally to take even a tiny individual process and find better metrics for that process, and every process. Because the people running real businesses that need to thrive on real money (not on government handouts, savings from the middle class, or loans from retarded 18-year-olds) what we maximize for actually matters. Thus we get better. From my perspective doing this kind of work looking at academia I can only puke. It's like if someone was assigned to do the opposite of my job: find the absolute worst metric and then apply it to literally all fields.

And seriously, is it the case that one dude with a fucking bachelors in math can find better metrics than the entire staff of every university in the entire world combined? That alone tells me what the quality of "academics" actually is.

>> No.11203443

>>11203426
>well publish or perish is bad
>it's not the worst after your formative years
>w-well, nobody likes your work anyway
like pottery, and also literally false as I can see my citations on google scholar lmfao

>> No.11203445

>>11203425
Toker, tell us what the accurate euphemism is.

>> No.11203455

>>11203445
My name Tooker, with two Os, but an accurate euphemism for "notorious heretics" wouldn't have a positive connotation.

>> No.11203459

>>11203437
The problem is that everyone with talent and drive either goes into top research positions at a handful of universities or into industry. Everyone left for general academia bureaucracy is a talenteless hack extremely butthurt that they couldn't make it.

>> No.11203462

>>11203459
Yeah, I know.

>>11203455
I know Tooker but I call you Toker because you are like the Joker from the movie Joker that came out in October. Did you see it already? You should be the real life Joker and call yourself Toker.

>> No.11203463

>>11203443
if ur work is so important post it here, let's what groundbreaking research you've done

>> No.11203471

>>11203463
nah I'd rather not doxx myself. I know this will lead to
>hurr durr you're lying lmao
>nah there's no way to do it and be anon
>hurr durr
we know how this plays out.

>> No.11203472

>>11203463
i derived a proof of P=NP

>> No.11203477

>>11203471
Ok so you're LARPing, yikes

>> No.11203481

>>11203472
N = 1

>> No.11203485

>>11203481
NP=1
P=0
0=1
QED

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>>11203462
I didn't see the movie yet but pic related is certainly as accurate pictorial representation of my intention as I have come across.

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>>11203459
>extremely butthurt

>> No.11203496

>>11203477
lolno, but we're on anonymous board and there's no way for me to respond to your bait in full without doxxing myself, to which you will respond "LOL HE DID IT"

>> No.11203498

>>11203496
Why the fuck would I give a shit about some virgin researcher who's full of himself, I just want to see if you have the credentials to back it up or you're LARPing. Looks like it's the latter

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>>11203463
30 Tooker Papers
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=08673880568874767256

>> No.11203509

>>11201330
>Entry level position
>Requires 2-5 years experience
>Millenials: Where am I supposed to get experience??? Reeee!!!
Internships, paid or not

>> No.11203510

>>11203498
>full of himself
in what way did you come to this conclusion? It's like if you aren't depressed about your situation and actually have it good, you're just lying and are secretly just full of yourself
lol but no, I'm not going to post my work on a chan board of all places

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>>11203510
OK LARPer

>> No.11203645

>>11203261
You have massive language-comprehension issues. You are also probably projecting your insecurities onto me and coping really hard. This is clear by the try-hard nature of your posts. You don't have a double major. You don't have money and do what you want. You are stupider than me.
>>11203268
you are probably samefag. If not, you are just as sad as the other guy.

>> No.11203654

>>11203261
Also, it wasn't more than a few months ago where some undergrad CS major from some no-name university solved some unsolved CS problem using undergrad tier math. It's believable that I can make my dreams come true without trying too hard, and probably solve some bs problem you try-hards care soo much about anyway.

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>wasting your summers fucking around doing stupid shit as an adult
>not doing any internships or getting job experience as an undergrad
>expecting to do well in grad school

>> No.11203690

>>11203663
>wasting your summers fucking around doing stupid shit as an adult
Yeah but is it going to look stupid in historical retrospect when I kill you with the standing wrist lock as soon as you touch my collar? I think not. I think you are the one who was wasting their time being stupid while I was on the path that leads to life.

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>>11203690
You're going to look extra-extra stupid when everyone sees that you had my open invitation to join me on that path and decided to be a little bitch instead.

>> No.11204964

>>11203368
Based post

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>>11203379
Savage post

>> No.11205162

>>11203663
Nice wageslave mentality.
Living is about enjoying life. Only a norduck values their summer so little to spend it in an office.

>> No.11205166

>>11203135
>but they are in turn cucking grad students who get cucked from earning only 20% of what they'd earn on industry.
My grad stipend was $33,500/year. Where can I get 5x that in industry with a chemistry BS?

>> No.11205370

>>11205166
Isn't 5x that what you'd be making working with either petroleum or natural gas?

>> No.11205389

>>11201330
>be CS major
>had conversation with guy in business school that eventually ended up with me working as a summer salesman
All according to keikaku

>> No.11207204

>>11201330
I spent my summer getting paid, writing up a paper, and spending a week traveling to a nice conference where I got to connect with the leading experts in my field. Oh and also the hotel was luxurious as fuck and I got like $300 extra in my pocket because of per diem.

>> No.11207206

>>11201367
300 starting too?

>> No.11207212

>>11203135
>but how do they cope knowing that literally everyone they know outearns them by huge factors
stop right there dude. If you make friends with guys who outearn you when you have no potential, then you should give up

>> No.11207251

>>11207212
I'm talking mainly about the people you met in your childhood. Friends and cousins would all out-earn you. When you go back to gather with them you'll feel extremely regretful of basically everything. And it's not normal. I for one know that by the time we have our school gatherings there will probably be some millionaires in there and odds are I won't be one of them but that's okay because making it to that level is heavily dependent on luck. But if you are not even a top worker then that just means that you played the entire game wrong and everyone in that gathering will out earn you.

>> No.11207267

>>11203305

Universities are indeed evil bloated bureaucracis, but it's not like wage slaving for Shekelstein Data Mining is any more respectable

>> No.11207275

>>11207251
so what
they'll be dead and gone forever in a relatively short period of time
just focus on your hobbies and whatever distractions you tend to indulge in and forget this useless shit

>> No.11207282

>>11207267
If by that you mean big tech then yes, I agree with you (except for the antisemitism). But already both Democrats and Republicans are looking to break them and basically destroy all of that. The American tech industry will soon be like the tech industry everywhere else, a bunch of <billion dollars valued companies barely making any money (think Soundcloud).

But other than big tech, many businesses are huge contributors to what we consider the modern standard of living. I feel extremely proud of where I work for, very happily wearing my blue jacket with their logo not only because when thotties see that logo they talk to me instead of me having to talk to them, but because I'm proud of working there.

>>11207275
Dude, right now we are all healthy and strong. Good luck focusing on your hobbies the moment a true emergency (health or otherwise) hits you and you are completely insolvent.

>> No.11207351

>>11207251
I don't have friends and the people I keep in contact with are people like me

>> No.11207359

>>11207351
Well, good for you. The people society throws into the trash are, regardless of organization (crime, government, universities), the only people willing to accept such a raw deal. I guess my comments do not apply to you. But I hope you are REALLY happy to be where you are because if you ever desire friends, family or even just sexual partners then you will likely rope immediately.

>> No.11207370

>>11201330
>she didn't get paid at her internship

>> No.11207394

>>11207359
>But I hope you are REALLY happy to be where you are because if you ever desire friends, family or even just sexual partners then you will likely rope immediately.
nah it's called being realistic

>> No.11207402

>>11207394
It's not unrealistic to want friends, family and sexual partners but hey I get nothing by making you kill yourself so let's leave it at that.

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>>11207402
it's pretty unrealistic to want friends, family and sexual partners actually

>> No.11207415

>>11207404
We define unrealistic in different ways. You are thinking of statistics (in which case you would be wrong because 72% having sex is still good enough to be 'realistic') while I think of possibility. I can guarantee you that if you:
>made good grades in high school
>went into business school
>got an MBA
Then you would have friends, family and sexual partners guaranteed. Granted, I didn't focus on grades during high school, did not go to business school and don't have an MBA (yet) and I still have friends and sexual partners, family incoming eventually. So I say it is more than realistic because even though I didn't play the optimal strategy I still got what I wanted. This is not true of almost any game. In most game if you do not play the optimal strategy you get actually fucked in the ass forever. In life as long as you are not too shit all that will happen is that those who played the optimal strategy will be your boss and earn more than you.

>> No.11207420

I spent years reading about science, i've actually come up with some stuff but the fact I cant test my best hypothesis has led to huge burnout. i wanna be at this moment reading about mossbaur effect & theoretical stereochemistry but i'm shitposting

>> No.11207421

>>11207415
you're in the 72% of men that were able to get that stuff I guess. Sooner or later it'll be like 50% and then finally 20% like nature intends.
I happened to land in the bottom 28% based on looks and personality. Maybe also financially. Idk

>> No.11207428

>>11207421
Most MBAs are ugly as shit. You should be happy to live in the 21st century. In the 21st century regardless of all that you could still have gone to business school and gotten an MBA. You could have been my boss and had been fucking hotter women than I fuck. But you didn't play the optimal strategy.

That is what I find beautiful about this world. If you are born with a lot of privilege then you can easily ignore the optimal strategy. Many rich kids just study philosophy or arts and then have their billionaire oil families fund them a gallery or "charity". But even if you were born with 0 privilege, you can still just study hard as a kid, go to business school, get an MBA, and then have a life comparable to those rich kids. This is most efficient system I've ever seen.

But yeah, if you are born without privilege and on top of that don't play the optimal strategy then you get fucked in the ass.

>> No.11207432

>>11207428
yes instead I studied something that could cure cancer.

>> No.11207438

>>11207432
i have a question for you, theoretical stereochemistry would be what class?

>> No.11207441

>>11207432
MBA can cure cancer by starting a healthcare startup.

>> No.11207448

>>11207441
that's like saying i made a perpetual motion machine with an idea. sure it could be done if you hadn't gotten the mba

>> No.11207450

>>11207438
first semester organic chem

>> No.11207458

>>11207450
thanks

>> No.11207461

>>11203108
>if you're working for free it's either because you're stupid or worthless
Jannies btfo

>> No.11207464

>>11207450
you do rotation matrices in 1?

>> No.11207526

>>11207464
I am a 4th-year first-class undergrad and I have no clue what "rotation matrices" are.

>> No.11208540

>>11203108
Uh, hello, based department?