/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11077983
You become a furry

>The purpose of the operation was to reduce the symptoms ofmental disorders, and it was recognized that this was accomplished at the expense of a person's personality and intellect. British psychiatrist Maurice Partridge, who conducted a follow-up study of 300 patients, said that the treatment achieved its effects by "reducing the complexity of psychic life". Following the operation, spontaneity, responsiveness, self-awareness and self-control were reduced. Activity was replaced by inertia, and people were left emotionally blunted and restricted in their intellectual range.[14]

>The consequences of the operation have been described as "mixed".[15]Some patients died as a result of the operation and others later committed suicide. Some were left severely brain-damaged. Others were able to leave the hospital, or became more manageable within the hospital.[15]A few people managed to return to responsible work, while at the other extreme people were left with severe and disabling impairments.[16]Most people fell into an intermediate group, left with some improvement of their symptoms but also with emotional and intellectual deficits to which they made a better or worse adjustment.[16]On average, there was a mortality rate of approximately 5 percent during the 1940s.[16]

>>11077983
Nothing. There is so much media about lobotomies causing >>11077998 that now through pure placebo effect when people go through a lobotomy their brain tricks them into thinking they have those symptoms.

>>11078001
Why don't we just turn the brain region responsible into hamburger then?

>assuming the surgery goes right and no adjacent tissue is damaged
a lobotomy severes your prefrontal cortex(PFC) connections.
Your PFC is like the CEO of your brain, enabling you for example to consciously control your actions. estimating the best options for your current situation. pursuing of goals etc. if you want more info look into 'executive functions' which is one of the main cognitive domains associated with the PFC.
Why would one want to do this?
disregulations of neurotransmitters can fuck you up badly, mentally speakng. another reason would be to reduce epileptic attacks from spreading throughout your brain

>>11078006
Because, that section of the brain is only a tiny fraction of the overall problem. It is like you are turning out a light in the garage to make your living room brighter.

>>11078001
>now through pure placebo effect when people go through a lobotomy their brain tricks them into thinking they have those symptoms.
Would love to know where in the world lobotomies are still being performed by competent medical staff.

>>11078039
We banned them because the placebo was too strong.

>>11077983

The very, very evil Kennedy family pretends that their dud, Rosemary, never existed and shunts her off to some rural fuckall place in Wisconsin.

i take antipsychotics. or at least I'm supposed to. I don't any more. but they are chemical lobotomies. it just makes me want to lay in bed and not move. couldn't even watch TV or play vidya because my attention span was so shot. and I had a lot of apathy too. I'm much better now but still not 100%. never will be.

75% of the chronically mentally ill would probably be better off euthanized. myself included

>>11078061
hey listen. being mentally ill and having your wealthy family sequester you to some comfy country estate is still a pretty damn good outcome for a person that is mentally ill.

>>11078071

Not after a botched lobotomy and while your family pays to keep you alive, unloved and permanently out of sight, it isn't. I seriously doubt that rural Wisconsin was "comfy".

>>11078088
still better than being homeless or in prison which is how probably 80%+ of the mentally ill end up these days

you start posting on pol and develop conspiracies about jews secretly conspiring to increase diversity and destroy the west.

>>11078096
>secretly
Anon, I...

>>11078092

I can't agree with this. I would unironically rather be on the street than not have my fucking mind.

>>11077983
The same thing that happens after every injury. It desperately tries to recover.

>>11077983
Psychiatrist gets paid

>>11078114
ironic

>>11077983

>an election recount

>>11077983
They get cured of their transsexuality.

>>11077983
the seizures stop everything gets easier

>>11078584

For much the same reason they they get cured of their humanity.

>>11077983
Become a democrat.

>>11077998
I saw documentary that back then there was absolutely nothing that could be done for psychotic patient and lobotomy is the only procedure with any apparent effect so it went mainstream.

>>11078114
We hope you had a pleasent and satisfying experience at our lobotomy clinic. Now please help yourself to some jpg propagraphics and a selection of schizo blogs to follow. But always remember, you are a special little 55% supreme snowflake and everything is the results of merchants wanting to melt your beautiful icecicle kingdom.

>>11077983
they shut the fuck up. epic if applied to wimmin or schizos

>>11077984
NO. you fix gender dysphoria(being gay).

>>11078096
>secretly
>conspiracy

Go find 10 Jews and ask them if America needs more diversity. It may surprise you that it is neither secret nor a conspiracy

>>11078965
It may surprise you that anyone wih half an ounce of brain mass will agree to that statement in some way regardless of ethnicity. This excludes bitter incel /pol/ drones, of course.

>>11078018
>Your PFC is like the CEO of your brain, enabling you for example to consciously control your actions
No, that is the cerebellum. People with damaged cerebellum are incapable of making decisions or changes to their routine functioning.

>>11077983
They go on 4chan and post 0.999... != 1 threads.

>>11078018
>>11080383
>The cerebellar cognitive affective syndrome is thus characterized byimpairments in executive function (planning, set-shifting, abstractreasoning, verbalfluency, working memory), often with perseveration,distractibility or inattention; visual–spatial disorganization and im-paired visual–spatial memory; personality change with blunting of af-fect or disinhibited and inappropriate behavior; and difficulties withlanguage production including dysprosodia, agrammatism and mildanomia. The net effect of these disturbances in cognitive abilities is ageneral lowering of intellectual function.

>>11077983
One thing is certain: it makes the human stupider.

>>11077983
This is what we are going to start doing to right wingers, racists, and other toxic males

>>11077984
Criminally underrated post

>>11078096
They are way past the secret stage. Now they are bragging about it to destroy the moral of anyone who wishes to preserve their own non conformist identity.

>>11078120
You sound ignorant and pretentious as fuck. You have no clue of the misery of being homeless.
.t once homeless addict

>>11080521
>t. cucked and deserves his balls cut off
Look up the case of Jackie Kennedy. If you unironically believe being homeless is SSOOOO BADD BE KIND AND COMPASSIONATE MY FELLOW DEMMOCRAT kys. If you lose your mind you are lost forever. If you are homeless just get arrested for a minor crime you get 3 hots and a cot schooling plenty of job resources and once you can prove you are a functioning member of society you get your record expunged you are a fucking pussy kys homeless drug addict scum

>>11077983
You post on 4chan

Haha

>>11078001
Yea right. The organ that literally controls emotions, pleasure, pain, cognition and consciousness has absolutely 0 symptoms after physical trauma from literally drilling someone skulls in is purely placebo (actually nocebo in your context) and its all just a 'trick' how? >>11078039
It would be eaiser to prove that the nocebo effect is not even real let alone relevant to the effects of physical brain damage.

>>11078064
Do you still have symptoms? If so how are they different to how they were before you discontinued your antipsychotic, when did you last take it and which other drugs have you used/are using (SSRI's?). Theoretically you should be better after stopping antipychs then before you did before taking them or atleast back to normal if things like drug withdrawals and the rebound effect occur like basically the opposite of how cocaine makes things more enjoyable but after you stop taking them you develop anhedonia, the oppositte would be the case with antipsychotics.

>>11078092
Doesn't matter when your brains capacity to perceive things as 'good' and rewarding has been permanently destroyed

>>11080521
Imagine having everything you ever wanted in the world but not even experiencing any pleasure at all let alone satisfaction but instead the pain and misery you experienced being homeless instead and realising that you permanently won't ever have a home again and even if you did it wouldn't compare to how it felt before being homeless. You have no clue of the misery of being chemically lobotomized.
>t once risperidone and fluoxetine user

>>11078064
I got a seroquel from a buddy when I was a student. It's exactly what you described. The first words in my mind waking up the next day were "chemical lobotomy"

>>11077983
He probably joins 4chins

>>11080521

I am the person that you replied to. I live in a very shitty apartment with a very shitty house ten feet away from me, which was squatted in by some stupid homeless fucks this past winter. Out my drawn shades, I had to be aware of their physical presence, and I fantasized about killing them to be rid of them. We enjoyed an especially hard winter, with a few days around -30 fahrenheit, which I sincerely hoped might kill them. I drive past homeless on corners on a daily basis and I hate them. There is a homeless church shelter two blocks away from here. I see them foraging in the dumpsters regularly. We had a local shantytown at some distance from myself this past winter, but it was broken down/put out of sight. It isn't SF-tier here just yet, but it's on pace to be. I hate and despise the homeless exactly because I live in close proximity with them; they deserve what happens to them.

That said, I reiterate the above: I would rather be homeless than not have my mind. If anything, the writing of this post should prove to you that I have my mind. I know that one of the root causes of homelessness is that they do not have their minds (and so consequently deserve what happens to them). But there are homeless who do have their minds, albeit have "fallen on hard times". I would be one of those that I hate so much.

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>>11078064

>t once risperidone and fluoxetine user
Those permanently disable your dopamine receptors, which means you won't care about anything again.

>>11081077
People who take antipsychotics because symptoms still have them. They just don't care about them. (That is if they e.g. thought they are being followed by mossad agents, they still think they are being followed by mossad, the drugs just makes them not care they are being followed by mossad, but the delusion persists.)

>>11081086
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>>11078064

>t once risperidone and fluoxetine user
Those permanently disable your dopamine receptors, which means you won't care about anything ever again.

>>11081077
People who take antipsychotics because of symptoms still have them. They just don't care about them. (That is if they e.g. thought they are being followed by mossad agents, they still think they are being followed by mossad, the drugs just makes them not care they are being followed by mossad, but the delusion persists.)

>>11077983
Your giant indian friend mercy kills you and leaves by throwing the drinking fountain through the wall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3Dz6FOE_Gk

>>11077983
My mum died for motor neuron disease with frontotemporal dementia. The dementia ground up her personality into dust until there was nothing left. Just a mindless terrified animal gazing frantically in all directions. If a lobotomy, which specifically targets the frontal lobe, is anything like that, the people who kept on doing it should all have been stood in front of a firing squad.
Same fate that the puberty blocker peddlers deserve, in fact.

>>11078902
It's basically equivalent to shooting them in the head while still keeping them breathing. It certain makes them less of a handful.

>>11077983
lobotomy is the utmost delightful gift from a certain unscientific field composed of the only people who are delusional enough to think they know shit about the brain or human behavior. my mum would love to gift me with this shit as a kid if the practice was still legal

i find it incredibly funny how she hates me so much she would prefer to take care of me in a vegetative state for the rest of my life rather than working on our differences