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The image attached is of my psychological "specs." I struggle with doing basic shit like schoolwork (which typically is quite easy to finish once I get started; starting the assignment is the hard part) or maintaining normal levels of hygiene (unless I'm on a sizable dose of Adderall, prescribed to me even though testing has confirmed that I don't have ADHD). My motivation is severely impacted by my frequent depressive and suicidal episodes stemming from people treating me like an idiot and prominently laughing in groups when I talk, implying that they think I'm too stupid to tell I'm being laughed at (this has been happening since I was 11 years old). Family members, psychiatrists, and psychologists insist that there's nothing wrong with the way I talk, and I don't know who to turn to if I'm not going to be believed by the main groups of people who are supposed to support me.

So I've been wanting to know what the cause of my lack of success in life is--the autism itself or the depression stemming from it? My psychological report also said that my level of depression was 3.2 standard deviations above the average, so only about 1 in 700 people is at least as depressed as I am. Whether my troubles are caused by autism or by depression is very important to me because depression usually has a much higher level of treatability than autism, and I wanna know whether my future is hopeless or not. This isn't a comprehensive summary of my life, so feel free to ask me additional questions.

>> No.11077172

What's your HAMD-17 score?

>http://www.assessmentpsychology.com/HAM-D.pdf

>> No.11077300

>>11077172
1) 1.5
2) 2.5
3) 3
4) 2
5) 2
6) 1
7) 3.5
8) 1.5
9) 1
10) 3.5
11) 1.5
12) 0.5
13) 0.5
14) 0
15) 1.5
16) 0
17) 1

1-17 sum: 26.5 (3.5 points above "very severe depression" threshold)

18) 1 (AM)
19) 2
20) 1
21) 2

1-21 sum: 32.5

>> No.11077419

>>11077143
Yes, you will always be inferior to others because your willpower will always remain sapped, be it because your inherent conditions or because your unfortunate neurotransmitter imbalance. The first step is to acknowledge this without having the ego tell you how wrong it is and how special of a snowflake you actually are.

The second is to address it. Since you're starting from a very unfortunate position, there's no way to win this race unless you cheat, so that's just what we're going to do. From now on, every single day without exception, you will both start it and end it by doing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPUWdhHDKS4 . The food intake will be free of junk food and *specifically* soda or coffee, and you will NOT ingest anything other than water before 10 hours have passed after you've been awake. You will go to sleep, if possible, at 8-9PM and wake up at 5AM without a single exception, and every exception will be corrected the next day by undersleeping if you have to. As you will not eat anything for 10 hours straight, your first meal will be 3PM and your last one will be 4PM - what is otherwise called "IF with a one hour window". Whenever the time to do the task you seek motivation towards finally comes, you will get a block of 70%+ chocolate and put it in front of you. You will not even touch that chocolate again until you have spent an hour of full concentration doing it, after which you will reward yourself and eat it (time this inside your feeding window). After 3 hours of doing your schoolwork, and if you're not feeling very motivated to continue, you will cease everything and force yourself to watch some TV or play a game until it's time to go to sleep.

It all seems complicated and hard at first but this is the schedule I use when I really need productivity in my life, and yes, it works every single time, but you must execute it exactly as it is without modifying it and making excuses. Good luck.

>> No.11077447 [DELETED] 

>>11077143
High IQ doesn't make you omniscient. It's hard to live independently when you don't know anything and nobody talks with you. Nobody talks with you and people just outright refuse to interact with you in any meaningful way or share any important information with you. I'd bet that every autistic person has innately highly superior intelligence, but they score low (or even have they scores "corrected" down, to reflect their low functioning) becasue they don't know their own culture.

>> No.11077454 [DELETED] 

>>11077143
>High IQ doesn't make you omniscient. It's hard to live independently when you don't know anything and nobody talks with you. When you are autistic, people just outright refuse to interact with you in any meaningful way or share any important information with you. I'd bet that every autistic person has innately highly superior intelligence, but they score low (or even have they scores "corrected" down, to reflect their low functioning) becasue they don't know their own culture, and grow up delayed for the same reason feral children do. It's all because of the isolation, not because of any inherent flaw.

>> No.11077456

>>11077143
High IQ doesn't make you omniscient. It's hard to live independently when you don't know anything and nobody talks with you. When you are autistic, people just outright refuse to interact with you in any meaningful way or share any important information with you. I'd bet that every autistic person has innately highly superior intelligence, but they score low (or even have they scores "corrected" down, to reflect their low functioning) becasue they don't know their own culture, and grow up delayed for the same reason feral children do. It's all because of the isolation, not because of any inherent flaw.

>> No.11077459

>>11077419
please KYS

>> No.11077461

>>11077419
I have definitely tried these sorts of strict regimens and they've invariably lasted like 0-2 days before I got depressed. Hopefully this "complex yet simple" routine of yours will be the first one to succeed.

>> No.11077480

I have a weird neurological disease that is presenting with POTS I cannot leave the house for the majority of the year because any temperature above 74 degrees will make me horribly sick, confused, dumb, and weak.

I cannot work, drive and I am almost dropping out of college because i am progressively losing my academic abilities and I am developing amnesia.

It also causes horrible depression from the brain damage, antidepressants don't work bupropion didn't work.

I tried amphetamines and it helped but it makes my breathing difficult so its not an option, my last drug to try is dopamine agonists like levodopa and pramipexole(Mirapex)

>> No.11078325

>>11077480
You sound like a hypochondriac

>> No.11078622

>>11077143
Go to the gym more often. I'm autistic and get depressed when I don't exercise, but a good 3 hour workout fixes everything.

>> No.11078869

>>11078622
Don't go to the gym, just get the equipment and exercise at home. Gyms are stressful places for people like OP, it's seriously best to avoid them.

>> No.11078922
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11078922

good chance your gut bacteria is fucked (most autist have fucked gut biome). im autistic and was depressed, angry, crazy, miserable etc most of my life then i switched to a whole foods plant based diet and i literally cannot get depressed anymore. ive been doing it for 2 years and ALL of my depressive episodes just ceased completely. things that used to set me off and make me explode have absolutely no effect on me anymore.

hasnt reduce my other symptoms though, like being absolutely shit at understanding peoples feelings/thoughts, reading facial expressions etc. i still have 'flat affect', my gf even pointed this out to me that when ever i smile i immediately snap back to a flat expression. still struggle hard to look people in the eyes, all those social problems still exist but im emotionally solid now, nothing shits me off or upsets me like it used to and i have a lot of focus.

>> No.11078931

>>11078922
All right, I’ll try that out.

>> No.11078934

>>11078931

stick it out for at least 3 months. only thing you need to supplement is vitamin B12 spray (or pills perhaps. i used both) and MAYBE vegan DHA/EPA capsules but thats not always needed, i just like to cover all bases. even as an omnivore its good to take these things, especially vitamin K2-MK7 and D3.

>> No.11078992

>>11078869
>People like OP

meaning what? not OP btw. the comment just above yours has a self-described autist who gyms regularly without issue. Seems like as long as OP doesn't talk to anyone, he should have no problem working out or feeling anxious.

That is, if he's not too depressed to go to the gym.

>> No.11079007

>>11078992
I feel really awkward around other people, not knowing where to look or how I should walk, and my lifting form sucks ass, so that guy was right.

>> No.11079014

>>11078992
why not just work out at home, I think going to the gym is for fags.

>> No.11079068

>>11077143
Son. You're gay. It's 2019 and there's no reason to keep letting that get you down. Just accept who you are. If you have a girlfriend dump her. Let loose a little, meet some cute guys, try MDMA, try bottoming. Just be yourself.

>> No.11079070

>>11079007
>not knowing "how" I should walk

I always have this feel, people have described my walk as weird, rigid (you walk like you have a broomstick up your ass) or an angry walk. My back is totally straight with no "macho man" side-to-side gait anywhere. I always thought nothing of it like it's good for my posture or some shit, now I get kinda self-conscious in small groups but honestly it's absorbed into my persona and I just own it now. I think since one dude told me I've got pep in my step. At the same time, it probably makes me less approachable to most normans who don't already know me

What the fuck why can't I have a normal gait

>> No.11079088

>>11079070
For me it’s mostly about how my arms should move. I’m fucking clueless about it around other people but it comes naturally to me when I’m alone or around family members. I also freak out internally when I’m walking towards someone who’s far away and passing by them because I don’t know whether I should stare into space like a robot, stare at them, or stare at the ground. There’s just no winning for me.

>> No.11079162

>>11079088

Like, a stranger somewhere or someone more familiar? For strangers, you can't go wrong with looking at the ground 15ft ahead of you and going about your business. They wouldn't remember this encounter anyway.

Alternatively, 15ft ahead until they come within 5ft of you and then you make a very quick casual glance at them, then back at the ground.

Do you keep your arms straight down your sides without swinging them as you walk?

>> No.11079186

>>11079162
>Like, a stranger or someone more familiar?
Strangers and distant relatives mostly. Sometimes my dad too but only because I’m kinda scared of him from experiences in my childhood.
>Do you keep your arms straight down your sides without swinging them as you walk?
Nah, I got made fun of in gym class a decade ago for that. I make sure to swing my arms, but it feels awkward like consciously breathing when in the company of strangers or distant relatives.

>> No.11079223

>>11079186
Ok so when you have to consciously move your arms, does it cause physical pain anywhere? Just doing a quick and dirty cross reference against Hypermobility Disorder, which might be a lead to check into. I am a 4chan certified internet doctor, so..

>Sometimes my dad too but only because I’m kinda scared of him from experiences in my childhood.

Like when you were 10-11 or even younger? Anything personal? Experiences like this obviously have landslide effects that may manifest years down the road

>> No.11079225

>>11079223
ahem, Syndrome

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypermobility_syndrome

internet doctor.

>> No.11079239

>>11079223
>>11079225
No pain whatsoever. The conscious movement kicks in when I’m around everyone except close family members. And my dad frequently aggressively yelled (and still does), smacked me or hit me with belts sometimes, and even locked me in a dark closet a couple times when I was like 5.

>> No.11079328 [DELETED] 

>>11079007
>>11079070
Normies have big trouble with motion coordination, it takes them enormous self control to just stand upright, so they you perceive as such when you are not wobbling around like them. (look at east asians, they also move normally like us)

>> No.11079334 [DELETED] 

>>11079007
>>11079070
>>11079088
>>11079186
Normies have big trouble with motion coordination, it takes them enormous self control to just stand upright, so they you perceive as such when you are not wobbling around like them. (look at east asians, they also move normally like us)

>>11079223
>does it cause physical pain anywhere?
Where in his post he suggested he is in pain? Are you fucking retarded?

>>11079239
Your family is likely also autistic, which means you can move normally wthout getting attacked or laughed at.

>> No.11079336

>>11079007
>>11079070
>>11079088
>>11079186
Normies have big trouble with motion coordination, it takes them enormous self control to just stand upright, so they perceive you as such (stiff) when you are not wobbling around like them. (look at east asians, they also move normally like us)

>>11079223
>does it cause physical pain anywhere?
Where in his post he suggested he is in pain? Are you fucking retarded?

>>11079239
Your family is likely also autistic, which means you can move normally wthout getting attacked or laughed at.

>> No.11079415

>>11079336
>Are you fucking retarded?

Chill fag not everyone spills all the details in the first post

>> No.11079421

>>11079415
Details? There is aboslutely nothing suggesting he is in pain, why would he complain about not knowing how to move instead of complaining about pain if his problem was being in pain? Why would you even make such a completely bizarre asumption?

>> No.11079499

>>11077143
Success in what aspect?
What do you want to accomplish in your life?