/sci/ - Science & Math

no
all of that costs money and I'm poor as fuck.
and not even the richest can escape the death yet

>>10724432
The majority of people die of causes that are not directly related to aging:

Iron accumulation. Causes neurological damage, possibly diabetes. Excess iron cannot be excreted & cause deficiency of some other metals, esp. manganese.

Magnesium deficiency - causes calcifications and weakens the bone.

Cadmium poisoning. Like Iron, cadmium accumulates in the body with no way to excrete it. Causes infertility in males as well as multiple other effects.

Copper/manganese deficiency. causes oxidative damage due to the dysfunction of superoxide dismutase. Beficiency of one may be worse than the deficiency in both, since each funtion in a different part of the cell.

Molybdenum deficiency. Necessary in multiple enzymes that detoxify cells.

Several studies have shown that either cerium or lanthanum (both seem to work) may be necessary for resistance agains virueses.

>>10724432

You will never escape death

>he doesn't want to go to the LORD'S glorious kingdom
>implying I want to stay alive even a second longer than absolutely necessary

>>10724432
Theoretically, yes. But when you factor in mankind's deal breaking character flaws, then the answer is absolutely no never. Immortality will literally never happen for humans because all they are concerned about is petty stupid shit like making money. And every single one of these life extension organizations right now are just giant scams run by billionaires and millionaires.

>>10724432
The techies may answer that even if almost all biological species are eliminated eventually, many species survive for thousands or millions of years, so maybe techies too can survive for thousands or millions of years. But when large, rapid changes occur in the environment of biological species, both the rate of appearance of new species and the rate of extinction of existing species are greatly increased. Technological progress constantly accelerates, and techies like Ray Kurzweil insist that it will soon become virtually explosive; consequently, changes come more and more rapidly, everything happens faster and faster, competition among self-prop systems becomes more and more intense, and as the process gathers speed the losers in the struggle for survival will be eliminated ever more quickly. So, on the basis of the techies' own beliefs about the exponential acceleration of technological development, it's safe to say that the life-expectancies of human-derived entities, such as man-machine hybrids and human minds uploaded into machines, will actually be quite short. The seven-hundred-year or thousand-year life-span to which some techies aspire is nothing but a pipe-dream.

>>10724432
>This leaves only the brain as the weak point, but considering the Human Brain Project and similar ventures, it may be possible to restore brain function artificially (stem cells or not) in the future.
But man-machine hybrids will retain a biological component derived from human beings only as long as the human-derived biological component remains useful. When purely artificial components become available that provide a better cost-versus-benefit balance than human-derived biological components do, the latter will be discarded and the man-machine hybrids will lose their human aspect to become wholly artificial. Even if the human-derived biological components are retained they will be purged, step by step, of the human qualities that detract from their usefulness. The self-prop systems to which the man-machine hybrids belong will have no need for such human weaknesses as love, compassion, ethical feelings, esthetic appreciation, or desire for freedom. Human emotions in general will get in the way of the self-prop systems' utilization of the man-machine hybrids, so if the latter are to remain competitive they will have to be altered to remove their human emotions and replace these with other motivating forces. In short, even in the unlikely event that some biological remnants of the human race are preserved in the form of man-machine hybrids, these will be transformed into something totally alien to human beings as we know them today.

The same applies to the hypothesized survival of human minds in "uploaded" form inside machines. The uploaded minds will not be tolerated indefinitely unless they remain useful (that is, more useful than any substitutes not derived from human beings), and in order to remain useful they will have to be transformed until they no longer have anything in common with the human minds that exist today.

Yeah nice to live forever, so you can enjoy your parkinson forever.

>>10726173
and thats why you need to be vegan. Veganism solves all the problems.

>>10727703
Some techies may consider this acceptable. But their dream of immortality is illusory nonetheless. Competition for survival among entities derived from human beings (whether man-machine hybrids, purely artificial entities evolved from such hybrids, or human minds uploaded into machines), as well as competition between human-derived entities and those machines or other entities that are not derived from human beings, will lead to the elimination of all but some minute percentage of all the entities involved. This has nothing to do with any specific traits of human beings or of their machines; it is a general principle of evolution through natural selection. Look at biological evolution: Of all the species that have ever existed on Earth, only some tiny percentage have direct descendants that are still alive today. On the basis of this principle alone, and even discounting everything else we've said in this chapter, the chances that any given techie will survive indefinitely are minute.

>>10727697
>>10727703
>>10727707
>posting a homicidal /pol/tard’s manifesto as if it means anything of significance

>>10724432
I remember reading some article about how there’s a gene that will inevitably end you regardless of health

>>10727890
sounds like absolute horseshit

>>10724432
>>get cancer? Just chop out the affected organs and replace them with healthy bois

That should be fun for your brain tumor. Oh by the way we caught it a bit late and there are mets in multiple organs now. We cut them out but plenty of them are just a little clump of 2 or 3 invisible cells that are going to blossom on their own in 8 months and start throwing mets out everywhere else - bones, kidneys, testes, liver, and aaaalllll through your lymphatic system.

What would you like to chop out first?

>>10727705
Good observation, this is the reason I became one.

the alternative is death

>>10728019
Damn nature, you're scary

>>10726173
pseud

>>10728909
No. There is a lot of studies supporting this. I could post them, but I'm banned from pubmed and too lazy to find a proxy just so i could post them.

and how are you going to cure my schizophrenia?

>>10729243
Shizpphrenia is caused by the brain aging way too quickly (autism by too little or not at all), so you might get cured along the way.